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nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
August 10 2010 21:50 GMT
#61
Fuck intellectual property ffs the game is ancient and has evolved way past anything blizzard originally intended they have 0 fucking rights to this game anymore they should stay away from broodwar and stick to making starcraft2 a better game.
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
August 10 2010 21:54 GMT
#62
Damn. This sucks. T.T
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
August 10 2010 22:00 GMT
#63
On August 11 2010 00:49 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 00:40 AyJay wrote:
On August 11 2010 00:35 Diminotoor wrote:
*You go to the store to buy a pie. Mmmm pie.*
*The pie you want should cost .... around $8.95, right?*
*Upon arriving in the frozen aisle, you are astonished to see your pie will cost you $130.00*
<You> Well, screw that I'll just make it myself from scratch.
*Upon tallying up all the costs for pie ingredients, its still going to cost you $110.00*
*You now must make a decision to either be down WAY more money than you logically should be, or go pie-less.*
<Friend> Man, well I just bought a pie but damn was it expensive. You gonna get one?
*Not being able to function/live without pie, you try to negotiate with the store, but the store is run by dick-heads with barely any intelligence.*
*Your family at home reminds you that you will need more pies in the upcoming months as well.*

I don't care who the "proverbial pie" "belongs" to. This sucks for the BW community.

I don't know what kind of stores you have in South Korea, but stores where I live never negotiate.

So I should call them dickheads?

Go ahead, noone will stop you. You know you dont have to openly comment to everyone who writes something you disagree with.
Blizzard was the greedy one, even if they made the game they have the right to royalties, but nooo, they wanted broadcasting rights as well.
You might say that they deserve that as well, but they left the ladder a long time ago.

Blizzard dont make rights for the wc3 / starcraft in China, where royalties would be deserved, but broadcasting right is over the top.

To me it's like saying that some guy from England invented soccer, then broadcast rights all goes to England to administer. Even there can be made arguements for it.

Compare SC2 with another form of intellectual property, such as a song or a film. One can buy a song or film legally via CD/DVD/iTunes, but that doesn't exclude the liability of a radio station for a song or of a TV station/cinema for a film. They also have to pay because they are also users of intellectual media. Don't get it wrong, although SC2 is more interactive, the only way we can interact with SC2 is via the software, i.e. property, of Blizzard.

SC2 is not a sport like association football (so called "soccer"), where the knowledge of the workings of the game is in the public domain. Forget e-sports, SC2 is intellectual property. The only reason Blizzard might give a discount or concession would be out of kindness or stupidity. Blizzard wants to grow SC2 and e-sports and they want a regulatory and economic say in what goes.

KeSPA is the greedy kid that took free cookies put out for tasting at the local supermarket. Blizzard is finally asking them to pay up for future cookies, but KeSPA has been eating for free for too long to listen.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
August 10 2010 22:10 GMT
#64
@Tyce :Where the negotiations between MBC and Gretech have something to do with SC2?, it is about BW that we are talking here, SC2 value as an e-sport right now is zero (lets see what happens in the future).
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
August 10 2010 22:12 GMT
#65
On August 11 2010 07:10 palexhur wrote:
@Tyce :Where the negotiations between MBC and Gretech have something to do with SC2?, it is about BW that we are talking here, SC2 value as an e-sport right now is zero (lets see what happens in the future).

agreed, sc2 has nothing to do here
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
August 10 2010 22:27 GMT
#66
Whether you agree with him or not, it's pretty obtuse to say something like that. Replace 'SC2' in his post with 'Brood War' and very little changes.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 10 2010 23:12 GMT
#67
Sigh. And so it begins... I'm not a happy camper
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Husmusen
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden92 Posts
August 10 2010 23:34 GMT
#68
god save us all from the monster blizzard is creating
Effort is the man Effort understands
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
August 10 2010 23:35 GMT
#69
fucking greedy blizzard and its nasty child gretech
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QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 23:52:52
August 10 2010 23:52 GMT
#70
On August 11 2010 04:15 AyJay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 03:59 swanized wrote:
On August 11 2010 03:55 motbob wrote:
Yeah, let's all badmouth Blizzard and Gretech based on a statement by MBC, which is surely not biased in any way.



that seems like a perfectly fine idea if you ask me


MBC are the good guys here


I hate blizzard for this



THERE ARE NO GOOD GUYS IN BUSINESS

For the last fucking time. Every company wants some dollah and each has it's own way of achieving it: Blizzard making good games, Activision having Bobby Kodick and EA releasing tons of shitty products.


Ah, the irony is so sweet here. You do realize that Blizzard has reached such high popularity not simply due to it's game quality, but also because they've been considered the 'good guys' in business, right? Blizzcon did not come about simply because the games were good - it's been a testament to the community formed around Blizzard and it's customers. Because of this strong bond, it was assured from the day it was announced that SC2 would succeed, regardless of it's actual quality as a game. This is what being the 'good guys' in business does for you.

If people stop thinking Blizzard are the good guys, they end up selling less Blizzcon tickets, less games, etc. Of course, those of us who actually like BW enough to still watch it on a regular basis are probably a small enough minority that we won't factor into their decision in the first place. So I'm sure they'd rather have the profits they could potentially make off BW re-licensing, even if it's a slap in the face to everyone involved.


On August 11 2010 07:27 Redmark wrote:
Whether you agree with him or not, it's pretty obtuse to say something like that. Replace 'SC2' in his post with 'Brood War' and very little changes.


Reality is often obtuse.
Oh, my eSports
blueblimp
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada297 Posts
August 10 2010 23:52 GMT
#71
Blizzard's takeover of SC:BW progaming is completely ridiculous given how little they were involved in its development beyond providing the game itself. Honestly though, I wouldn't mind if I thought they were going to do a good job of it. But if Battle.net 2 is any indication of Blizzard's competence at fostering eSports, God help us.
Motiva
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1774 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-11 00:03:21
August 11 2010 00:02 GMT
#72
lol It looks like im in the minority here, but I can't blame Blizzard or Gretech or any of this. You'd seriously have to your head in the sand to act like kespa orginially did. Furthermore, this idea that because blizzard waited until it was relevant to act, that they shouldn't have acted. This idea is inane. Blizzard should be able to do anything it wants with it's IP until a contract is formally signed. Until then, pay what you owe MBC or stfu. :-D lol. And be glad Blizzard gave you many years of glory for near-free. lol Steal and ask for me.. plz.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 11 2010 00:06 GMT
#73
On August 11 2010 09:02 Motiva wrote:
lol It looks like im in the minority here, but I can't blame Blizzard or Gretech or any of this. You'd seriously have to your head in the sand to act like kespa orginially did. Furthermore, this idea that because blizzard waited until it was relevant to act, that they shouldn't have acted. This idea is inane. Blizzard should be able to do anything it wants with it's IP until a contract is formally signed. Until then, pay what you owe MBC or stfu. :-D lol. And be glad Blizzard gave you many years of glory for near-free. lol Steal and ask for me.. plz.


What do they owe? they spent thousands of man hours getting this game to be esport-viable, making maps, tools, investing large amounts of money, etc. blizzard has done nothing to help them out.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Motiva
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1774 Posts
August 11 2010 00:09 GMT
#74
On August 11 2010 09:06 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 09:02 Motiva wrote:
lol It looks like im in the minority here, but I can't blame Blizzard or Gretech or any of this. You'd seriously have to your head in the sand to act like kespa orginially did. Furthermore, this idea that because blizzard waited until it was relevant to act, that they shouldn't have acted. This idea is inane. Blizzard should be able to do anything it wants with it's IP until a contract is formally signed. Until then, pay what you owe MBC or stfu. :-D lol. And be glad Blizzard gave you many years of glory for near-free. lol Steal and ask for me.. plz.


What do they owe? they spent thousands of man hours getting this game to be esport-viable, making maps, tools, investing large amounts of money, etc. blizzard has done nothing to help them out.


lol. I have no idea what they owe, but MBC says it's too much. Perhaps owe isn't the correct word. However then you change the subject to history and go on about how some company did a bunch of work without first signing a contract with that owner of the original intellectual property. Sounds pretty foolish to me. Maybe it's not, but to then be omg you're so evil when the owner of that property finally wants it back is nothing but misinformed.
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
August 11 2010 00:10 GMT
#75
Aw fuck... This whole deal is so ... ARRRGH! Business man... We can't do anything! :S
화이팅
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
August 11 2010 00:16 GMT
#76
i'm going to be so angry if MSL bites the dust for SC2
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 11 2010 00:18 GMT
#77
Surprise, surprise. Really did anyone see this panning out? I sure as hell didn't.

/Ignore

Wait for a court date or loosen stance.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-11 00:35:43
August 11 2010 00:35 GMT
#78
Maybe they don't realize that if it wasn't for Kespa making the pro gaming scene what is, no one would give a fuck about SC2.

Probably wouldn't even have made SC2.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
August 11 2010 00:41 GMT
#79
fuck those who defend Blizzard/Gretech .. your SC2 is just shit if it wasn't for the guys that made BW, ITS FUCKING PREQUEL, awesome .. hell if it wasn't for BW now and its proscene, you might not have bought your silly SC2 .. prove me wrong ..

User was warned for this post
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
August 11 2010 00:56 GMT
#80
On August 11 2010 09:09 Motiva wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 09:06 writer22816 wrote:
On August 11 2010 09:02 Motiva wrote:
lol It looks like im in the minority here, but I can't blame Blizzard or Gretech or any of this. You'd seriously have to your head in the sand to act like kespa orginially did. Furthermore, this idea that because blizzard waited until it was relevant to act, that they shouldn't have acted. This idea is inane. Blizzard should be able to do anything it wants with it's IP until a contract is formally signed. Until then, pay what you owe MBC or stfu. :-D lol. And be glad Blizzard gave you many years of glory for near-free. lol Steal and ask for me.. plz.


What do they owe? they spent thousands of man hours getting this game to be esport-viable, making maps, tools, investing large amounts of money, etc. blizzard has done nothing to help them out.


lol. I have no idea what they owe, but MBC says it's too much. Perhaps owe isn't the correct word. However then you change the subject to history and go on about how some company did a bunch of work without first signing a contract with that owner of the original intellectual property. Sounds pretty foolish to me. Maybe it's not, but to then be omg you're so evil when the owner of that property finally wants it back is nothing but misinformed.


Hanbitsoft, the publisher of SC in Korea, was a major part of getting Starcraft leagues up and running. It was kinda assumed from that point on that it was okay.

The world is never as black and white as you paint it out to be
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