EPT[News] MBCGame: "Gretech is asking for too much" - Page 10
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palexhur
Colombia730 Posts
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AyJay
1515 Posts
On August 13 2010 08:07 palexhur wrote: This AyJay guy is really funny: He says SC2 is better, but He doesnt give any real reason by comparing between the games themselves, now he says Blizz is interested in the development of e-sports around the world, again without giving us any reasonable income about it, and then the epic final, the people who disagree with him have to give him a valid point for his brain in order to change his mind. Well like other poster I am out, AyJay thinks whatever you want, if you think the earth is flat then let it be, the only conclusion that I have since i read your posts is that you dont have a single clue about RTS world and how to develop a market. I enjoy watching Brood war(only with english commentary though, I check out moletrap channel quite often), but I enjoy watching Sc2 videos more. I never said sc2 is better than Bw I said I prefer Sc2 over BW, because I find it more entertaining to watch. I said Blizzard is interested in development of e-sports because that means money for them. I post my own opinion what I think is going on. And I doubt anyone in this thread actually knows what blizzards goal with Sc2, Bw and e-sports is. | ||
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sCCrooked
Korea (South)1306 Posts
On August 13 2010 18:32 AyJay wrote:I doubt anyone in this thread actually knows what blizzards goal with Sc2, Bw and e-sports is. No, but we have some really good educated guesses. SC2: Make money BW: Inherit market by any means necessary to make money. ESports: Saw the korean BW scene as a chance to make more money with their new toy. | ||
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AyJay
1515 Posts
On August 13 2010 18:39 Diminotoor wrote: No, but we have some really good educated guesses. SC2: Make money BW: Inherit market by any means necessary to make money. ESports: Saw the korean BW scene as a chance to make more money with their new toy. Guesses are just guesses. | ||
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DragonDefonce
United States790 Posts
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AyJay
1515 Posts
On August 13 2010 18:54 DragonDefonce wrote: This is total bullshit. Blizzard is asking for shitton of money, but at the same time diverting the bad press to gretech. They are looking more like activision than blizzard with the shit they are pulling now. Nobody knows how much money Gretech asks. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5419 Posts
It's safe to assume it's a very unreasonable sum. They wanted KeSPA (i.e. OGN/MBC and others) to sign a 1 year contract, while they signed a 3 year one with GOMTV no problem. They (Blizzard) also had other ridiculous demands. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On August 13 2010 20:57 maybenexttime wrote: [Blizzard] wanted KeSPA (i.e. OGN/MBC and others) to sign a 1 year contract, while they signed a 3 year one with GOMTV no problem. They (Blizzard) also had other ridiculous demands. Yes - this point needs to be emphasized. The demands Blizzard made when negotiating with Kespa were relaxed when they negotiated with Gretech, so Blizzard intentionally offered poorer terms to the existing companies. Activision Blizzard never came to either negotiate or "assert its IP rights" until SC2 was on the horizon. For a packaged goods maker trying to sell their next product, it is ideal for them for interest in the previous game to wane, as those who are still interested in the previous game might not buy the sequel. | ||
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Garaman
United States556 Posts
fuck em. | ||
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Badjas
Netherlands2038 Posts
On August 13 2010 20:57 maybenexttime wrote: It's safe to assume it's a very unreasonable sum. They wanted KeSPA (i.e. OGN/MBC and others) to sign a 1 year contract, while they signed a 3 year one with GOMTV no problem. They (Blizzard) also had other ridiculous demands. The only source we have for this information is Kespa and Blizzard. I trust neither one of them to tell the truth. | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
On August 13 2010 22:27 Badjas wrote: The only source we have for this information is Kespa and Blizzard. I trust neither one of them to tell the truth. The basic outline yes. The details, no. Still, I wonder what deal OGN made with Gretech/Activision. Please let it not be a deal with the devil. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
Either way, not giving every single purchaser access to LAN support with SC2 is all the proof anyone should need that someone at Activision/Blizzard doesn't care about growing e-Sports throughout the world. Now, what about growing e-Sports in South Korea? If Blizzard really and truly wanted the Brood War scene to continue growing and picking up fans what would they do? The most logical thing for them to do if they really wanted to grow the e-Sports scene in South Korea would simply be to do nothing at all. It's already been grown by MBC, OGN, and KeSPA. These three have done a fantastic job and honestly have helped make Blizzard a very rich company with Blizzard not having to do a single thing, they've just been benefiting from the hard work of a few South Korean companies. Now, if Blizzard didn't care about growing e-Sports in South Korea and simply cared about profits what would they do? Exactly what they're doing now. Honestly, I think that whatever executive at Activision/Blizzard that's making these decisions would be happy if MBC went down and could no longer do the MSL. It means less competition for Gretech and more money for Blizzard/Activision. | ||
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Badjas
Netherlands2038 Posts
On August 14 2010 03:41 overt wrote: Or did they release a special LAN version for tournaments? Yes. | ||
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Severedevil
United States4830 Posts
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sCCrooked
Korea (South)1306 Posts
Just as your opinions are guesses (presumably also based on other information). | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
They did? or they "will"? | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
Either way, they should give everyone access to that rather than people who they deem worthy of LAN ready copies. But I guess asking a developer to do what every other developer besides them does is just too much to ask these days...  | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
they did .. but its still sort of online .. cant really know .. there is an authentication that wants you to give your serial(?) and there also have to be a BLIZZARD representative/technician .. | ||
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Claytor656
United States15 Posts
I would like to point out that Kotick has stated numerous times his feelings on gaming. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kotick I'm not going to pull quotes from something you should read if you think Blizzard is not trying to do anything but increase the company's worth at all times. It's not their fault, gaming became a very large and profitable industry. I also do not feel that 100% of the drive is money either, I just feel the people who care about story, gameplay, and art are in the minority at that company. I do not feel this was the case at all times, I see a changing trend. It's the same way across all the industry. EA and the Infinity Ward fiasco was a good show of what to expect and E3 and it's continual decline ( I may not be accurate on this, I just do not know anyone who cares about it anymore myself) is another fine indicator of a growing sequel driven, Hollywood blockbuster style marketing of gaming. | ||
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
I just can't believe all these blizzard fanboys that are still so optimistic with blizzard after all the shit they pulled. Also, I want my goddamn MSL(and other leagues of course)  | ||
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