EPTRenewal of Zerg Style - Page 3
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28765 Posts
and yeah I often do parasite one vessel. occasionally they kill it or just let it be parasited, there appears to be many terrans who don't know that restoration cures it. some good terrans too actually. | ||
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Louder
United States2276 Posts
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Muhweli
Finland5328 Posts
On June 02 2004 08:37 Liquid`Drone wrote: you can't see parasited units in shuttles and yeah I often do parasite one vessel. occasionally they kill it or just let it be parasited, there appears to be many terrans who don't know that restoration cures it. some good terrans too actually. I thought you were protoss user, but you're random? or just playin' others for fun =] | ||
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Muhweli
Finland5328 Posts
On June 02 2004 08:32 Eatme wrote: In ZvZ I think ensnare+hydras is the best combo when using queens. This is not new at all so maybe that's why noone have mentioned it... Yea I know, it's underused too though =] | ||
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BumpOnaLog
Canada318 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28765 Posts
like a year at least | ||
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Muhweli
Finland5328 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28765 Posts
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88)KicKDoG
86 Posts
and whoever said there are no reps to learn from. www.wgtour.com --> search for 88)KicKDoG --> download reps ;-) Ill start using queens every zvt and zvp that reaches mid-late game for anyone who wants to see some ways to use em. | ||
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Muhweli
Finland5328 Posts
On June 02 2004 11:25 88)KicKDoG wrote: it is well worth it to build at least 1 queen in a late game zvt and parasite 1 vessel. the queen only costs 100/100 (i think that is the same cost for upgrading restoration, if not less). the building of the queen and casting parasite with it takes as much effort to do as it does to research and then cast restoration, so its not a waste of effort because it costs both players the same effort. and if they dont put in the effort, then you get to see their army, or at least a section of the map wherever they put the vessel, or they sacrifice the vessel, which all help you even more. not to mention you also have the ability to infest command centers at no extra cost if you get the opportunity. and whoever said there are no reps to learn from. www.wgtour.com --> search for 88)KicKDoG --> download reps ;-) Ill start using queens every zvt and zvp that reaches mid-late game for anyone who wants to see some ways to use em. I mean pro-gamers don't use 'em 8D | ||
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88)KicKDoG
86 Posts
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
I guess it's like LT... Everyone use what they are used to. And well I mostly go muta+lings unless I dont play friends coz I'm scared of the "unknown"... | ||
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Fedaykin
Netherlands2003 Posts
On June 02 2004 12:56 Eatme wrote: I guess it's like LT... Everyone use what they are used to. And well I mostly go muta+lings unless I dont play friends coz I'm scared of the "unknown"... Though Tsunami was convinced hydra-queen owned muta in zvz | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28765 Posts
however most good nonkoreans won't lose against it. | ||
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x[ReaPeR]x
United States3447 Posts
On June 02 2004 07:04 PheeRed.User wrote: does x[reaper]x still post on these forums i left the game for like 4 months and he definitely wasnt the best of players but i used queens and defilers against him regularly if i diddnt use them i beat him probably 95% of the time and if i did use them it was about 50/50 but i wasnt a good zerg player so i dont have much say but i definitely had alot better success with normal play another thing you cant expand until you have like 2 groups of hydras and about 2-3 queens because their m&m will eat you up Unless you expanded first but than your really slow. I tried this strategy about 30 times so i actually got a feel for it but i wasnt fast enough or good enough to play it well Haha you exist! I still play west using x[ReaPeR]x, msg me man. Just to stay on topic, I though about TvZ Hydra/Queen. If you went Hydra Queen and Like Even two lurkers I think that would be really effective. Unless the Lurkers get owned by Tank focus fire (seems likely) the two Lurkers alone would make the lives of M&M a lot worse because microing ensnared M&M's is basically impossible. In all honestly though I think the age of Queens has come, they are so good. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
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Chobohobo
United States945 Posts
If you plan to snare a MM army then attack with lurkers it becomes very difficult and impractical because when the terran sees Snare on his shit he'll reposition his force to get ready for attack, or just retreat. And since its key for a zerg to flank and attack a terran when hes moving I dont see how snare would be effective in that situation. | ||
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
But I think it really sucks that terran doesnt really have underused units that can be effective. I mean in TvZ you need all the resources you can muster, which is usually little and valks do not justify the expenses, ghosts are easily detected and can only nuke but ... a nuke costs more than an expansion, considering its just a hatch. Vs protoss ghosts are uber hard to use and hardly viable cause they neeed so much gas to make and tanks and upgrades are very essential. PLus the only things you can relaly do with them is lockdown shuttles and try to nuke, but while you waste attention trying to find a good place to nuke and then pulling it off, toss would power up enough to make up for any losses (s)he may suffer. Also valks are shit tvp Valks are shit tvt BCs are shit tvp BCs are shit TvZ Scis are shit TvP (emp shockwave is so freaking small I once missed 4 arbiters coming to recall in my base even though I had the sci and i clicked with decent precision.) etc... terran is hard to be creative with nowadays imo | ||
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Casper...
Liberia4948 Posts
it screams "DO THAT AGAIN PLEASE I AM STUPID" you do see alot of "hey, he used gas and disadvantaged his tech to get a queen, then used up energy to parasite me. i'll attack right now." | ||
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