maybe drone isn't gay and actually means a female????? *hint, hint*

other than that nothing really new there , interesting read nonetheless
i dunno , but in ZvZ muta-battles i think having 1 or even better 2 queens ensnaring could be soooooooo much better than spire-upgrades, plus it isn't that costly

Liquid`Drone

Norway28711 Posts

June 01 2004 20:17 GMT

#23

if both you and your opponent are just massing mutas from 2 gas and you both have 24+, sacrificing 3 mutas for ensnare is a good move.

but you don't want to do it any earlier.

Muhweli

Finland5328 Posts

June 01 2004 20:21 GMT

#24

you sure you need that many? You don't have to hit all of 'em you know. If half comes into the fight like 5 to 10 seconds late, pretty many mutas are dead already. And ensnaring them far away and then attacking somewhere will delay them quite a bit. Ensnare slows down rate of fire too aight? =]

Liquid`Drone

Norway28711 Posts

June 01 2004 20:27 GMT

#25

oh I know that but wasting 3 mutas when you both have like 15 is potentially very risky. doing it at 20 could work but 24 just is appropriate cause that's 2 groups nomsain

Muhweli

Finland5328 Posts

June 01 2004 21:08 GMT

#26

your post killed the thread!

SoMuchBetter

Australia10606 Posts

June 01 2004 21:11 GMT

#27

i need to stick a postit on my monitor that says 'QUEENS!' on it

ToKoreaWithLove

Norway10161 Posts

June 01 2004 21:18 GMT

#28

I'm gonna do that also - but it'll be hard to find spot among the "MACRO DAMNIT!" "DONT ATTACK LURKERS WITH MARINES ONLY!" and "NO TOURNEY WHILE HIGH" notes -_-

FusioN

Sweden72 Posts

June 01 2004 22:02 GMT

#29

ensnare in ZvZ is gosu

pheered.user

United States2603 Posts

June 01 2004 22:04 GMT

#30

does x[reaper]x still post on these forums i left the game for like 4 months and he definitely wasnt the best of players but i used queens and defilers against him regularly if i diddnt use them i beat him probably 95% of the time and if i did use them it was about 50/50

but i wasnt a good zerg player so i dont have much say but i definitely had alot better success with normal play

another thing you cant expand until you have like 2 groups of hydras and about 2-3 queens because their m&m will eat you up Unless you expanded first but than your really slow.

I tried this strategy about 30 times so i actually got a feel for it but i wasnt fast enough or good enough to play it well

Muhweli

Finland5328 Posts

June 01 2004 22:32 GMT

#31

yeap it's so much about being good with the queens. So many people just copy strats. In queens case, there's nowhere to copy so you gotta work out timings etc without any help from reps or such -.-

itzme_petey

United States1400 Posts

June 01 2004 22:52 GMT

#32

On June 02 2004 04:36 distant_voice wrote:
good ideas, although they're not really new.
There's already an Art Terran and an Art Protoss (Boxer + Nal_Ra), it's time for an Art Zerg. Yellow, read this and pull something cute out of your ass! Once the koreans do it, everybody'll be doing it.

One shouldn't put too much emphasis on Parasite. That's just a bonus imo. Especially Ensnare in ZvsZ is something worth trying. The other stuff is probably gonna work as well but ZvsZ is sooo boring right now. Time for Drone to unveil his secret new strat.

Couldn't you parasite all the sci V? And scourge them off when they stray away from the pack?

TanGo

Sweden1019 Posts

June 01 2004 23:01 GMT

#33

just hae around 4-5 queens at the opponents natural expansion (on LT) and then do ensnare once in a while on his or her peon-line... it's usefull

ygor

Slovakia246 Posts

June 01 2004 23:03 GMT

#34

Or you could just ensnare his mining activities regulary. He would fall back economically very hard, right ?

ToKoreaWithLove

Norway10161 Posts

June 01 2004 23:13 GMT

#35

Actually, ensnare has very little effect on mining, since workers spend most of their time harvesting and very little time actually moving. There was test on this long time ago, and conclusion is that its not worth it -_-

Liquid`Drone

Norway28711 Posts

June 01 2004 23:24 GMT

#36

itzme_petey parasiting vessels is useful if you wanna get to watch them for ~1 minute

a good terran will counter parasite with restoration.

thus energy is better used for ensnare or broodling.

FreeZEternal

Korea (South)3396 Posts

June 01 2004 23:28 GMT

#37

what happened if a parasite unit goes inside a dropship +_+ can u still see it?

Muhweli

Finland5328 Posts

June 01 2004 23:29 GMT

#38

On June 02 2004 08:24 Liquid`Drone wrote:
itzme_petey parasiting vessels is useful if you wanna get to watch them for ~1 minute

a good terran will counter parasite with restoration.

thus energy is better used for ensnare or broodling.

yea well it might be useful to throw parasite to a vessel or two since you don't have to research it. And like using parasite on just one vessel might lead to terran making a rushed desicion and saccing the vessel. And it only costs 75 energy anyways =]

Eatme

Switzerland3919 Posts

June 01 2004 23:32 GMT

#39

In ZvZ I think ensnare+hydras is the best combo when using queens. This is not new at all so maybe that's why noone have mentioned it...

jtan

Sweden5891 Posts

June 01 2004 23:35 GMT

#40

On June 02 2004 06:18 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
I'm gonna do that also - but it'll be hard to find spot among the "MACRO DAMNIT!" "DONT ATTACK LURKERS WITH MARINES ONLY!" and "NO TOURNEY WHILE HIGH" notes -_-

Haha...