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theramstoss
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada242 Posts
May 22 2010 03:00 GMT
#21
On May 22 2010 11:52 Triple7 wrote:
Everyone is like (T_T) but then there is XellOs going (-_-). And his story was one of the saddest!


no he cried pretty hard.

quote? what quote?
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 03:11:47
May 22 2010 03:06 GMT
#22
say what you want, but this...

[image loading]


This is so...

=(

Kong <3 forever

Rough Translations:
+ Show Spoiler +

Major Starleagues: 5 Silvers Only

When the opponent was happy because of victory...

When the opponent was happy because of victory, he (yellow) stood behind the stage and shed his tears.

Olympus Starleague Finals, after barely losing versus Xellos, standing behind the stage alone and crying, the player YellOw.

The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
TTSA_SBR
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia64 Posts
May 22 2010 03:22 GMT
#23
god i really hope this doesn't severely impact on pro gaming inside Korea, because Saviors head will roll if it does
rape me once, shame on you... rape me twice and ill poo on your dick.
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
May 22 2010 03:22 GMT
#24
The first guy was Shuttle. Why was he crying? It looks pretty recent. Was that after his Ro16 elimination by Hiya in the MSL?
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
theramstoss
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada242 Posts
May 22 2010 03:27 GMT
#25
On May 22 2010 12:22 lone_hydra wrote:
The first guy was Shuttle. Why was he crying? It looks pretty recent. Was that after his Ro16 elimination by Hiya in the MSL?


No it was when he qualified for an OSL, according to the caption
quote? what quote?
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
May 22 2010 03:58 GMT
#26
did anyone see the x ray of the progamer on the bottom of the page? i hope that's not real because the spine of that person looks really messed up.
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
May 22 2010 04:03 GMT
#27
oh man...when i see old timers cry like that, it reminds me of better times, when match rigging was never a problem. =(
I like haikus and / I can not lie. You other / brothers can't deny
theramstoss
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada242 Posts
May 22 2010 04:23 GMT
#28
On May 22 2010 12:58 johnnyspazz wrote:
did anyone see the x ray of the progamer on the bottom of the page? i hope that's not real because the spine of that person looks really messed up.


That's not supposed to be a progamer. Just a reminder for prolonged computer users to straighten their spines.
quote? what quote?
Rickilicious
Profile Joined July 2009
United States220 Posts
May 22 2010 04:34 GMT
#29
Yall are looking way to into it. Do people cry about steroids in baseball, no they get on and get over it. These guys are big boys, those who dont cheat get recognized and remembered, those who do are trash.


That being said, how much money did they make for rigged matches cause i bet it was mad profitable lolz
Doug Righteous
Lucktar
Profile Joined July 2008
United States526 Posts
May 22 2010 07:05 GMT
#30
^ Nah, that's the thing. Most people threw games for like 5-8 thousand USD. It's pretty heartbreaking that they'd be willing/desperate enough to throw away a career for that kind of money.
NaDa, much, ZerO fighting!
ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
May 22 2010 07:05 GMT
#31
On May 22 2010 12:00 theramstoss wrote:
no he cried pretty hard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6CQ4kc0aiU


An excerpt from an interview with savior from the thread, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=98685

Q: What does Coach Cho mean to you? How about CJ Entus? Be honest!
Savior: Since I'm the only player to win a title after CJ was founded, I still think of Ma Jae Yoon (Note:himself) when I think of CJ. Through all those leagues, foreign tournaments, superfights, etc, I was always wearing the CJ uniform.

It's like a pillar (Note: the Korean connotation here is something he can really rely on for stability) for me, the team. I hope a lot of winners come from this team after me.


T_T
Wake up Mr. B!
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
May 22 2010 07:11 GMT
#32
Its funny how calm can cry and rig matches at the same time
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
May 22 2010 07:14 GMT
#33
On May 22 2010 16:11 Emon_ wrote:
Its funny how calm can cry and rig matches at the same time


Calm didn't. see the list here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=125601
Wake up Mr. B!
kyophan
Profile Joined January 2010
United States113 Posts
May 22 2010 07:19 GMT
#34
On May 22 2010 16:14 ccou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 16:11 Emon_ wrote:
Its funny how calm can cry and rig matches at the same time


Calm didn't. see the list here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=125601

Perhaps he's referring to the calm vs hwasin match long ago where there was debate on whether or not calm was telling him his strat.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
May 22 2010 07:23 GMT
#35
Sorry about that. Didnt see the list. There was a picture of Calm revealing strategies in the chat before a game, but I guess its debunked now.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
May 22 2010 07:25 GMT
#36
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 07:31:39
May 22 2010 07:30 GMT
#37
On May 22 2010 16:25 Zelniq wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Zelniq's Video Link] +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkGGfSJczMM


SO GOOD

I've missed the old school Proleague endings, these were what inspiried me to play Starcraft so much. Touching stuff.
Keep the Dream Alive twitch.tv/monokerros
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
May 22 2010 07:35 GMT
#38
GGplay and Nada...
the saddest imo
cw)minsean(ru
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
May 22 2010 09:12 GMT
#39
On May 22 2010 16:23 Emon_ wrote:
Sorry about that. Didnt see the list. There was a picture of Calm revealing strategies in the chat before a game, but I guess its debunked now.

The Calm/Hwasin incident at IEST (foreign tournament outside of KeSPA's sphere of influence) was never really debunked to everyone's satisfaction. STX denied the two fixed the final matches/claimed it was just mind games/competitive banter and it was up to people to draw their own conclusions. By most accounts they rigged it but due to the nature of the games things (as far as their progaming careers are concerned) went on before long and most let go of the incident.
Moderator
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 13:26:22
May 22 2010 13:25 GMT
#40
last pics showing calm crying? when was it?

Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
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