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Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
May 22 2010 13:34 GMT
#41
On May 22 2010 22:25 ilbh wrote:
last pics showing calm crying? when was it?



After he beat Jaedong in the MSL semis
Rickilicious
Profile Joined July 2009
United States220 Posts
May 22 2010 13:52 GMT
#42
On May 22 2010 16:05 Lucktar wrote:
^ Nah, that's the thing. Most people threw games for like 5-8 thousand USD. It's pretty heartbreaking that they'd be willing/desperate enough to throw away a career for that kind of money.



really? That's odd, I heard obviously from an unreliable source in an interview that they make 6 figures. If they do make that much and throw games for 10 grand, that's phail.
Doug Righteous
LunarC
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1186 Posts
May 22 2010 14:02 GMT
#43
On May 22 2010 22:52 Rickilicious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 16:05 Lucktar wrote:
^ Nah, that's the thing. Most people threw games for like 5-8 thousand USD. It's pretty heartbreaking that they'd be willing/desperate enough to throw away a career for that kind of money.



really? That's odd, I heard obviously from an unreliable source in an interview that they make 6 figures. If they do make that much and throw games for 10 grand, that's phail.

Only the best of the best make that kind of money. Most earn rather meager paychecks, and you have to think in terms of long-term security, which for a progamer is probably more or less nonexistent, especially in an environment like Korea. Still, this doesn't make throwing games any less shameful.

Also, they didn't intend to get caught.
REEBUH!!!
theramstoss
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada242 Posts
May 22 2010 19:17 GMT
#44
They probably bet against themselves under several accounts to make the real cash.
quote? what quote?
MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
May 23 2010 03:24 GMT
#45
Firebathero QQ!!!!! I STILL LOVE U
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
May 23 2010 03:53 GMT
#46
Man I never cried so much in my life beforez yo. Take it like a man. No.
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17070 Posts
May 23 2010 03:54 GMT
#47
On May 23 2010 04:17 theramstoss wrote:
They probably bet against themselves under several accounts to make the real cash.


I hadn't actually thought of this, but it's a very good point.
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EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
May 23 2010 04:05 GMT
#48
On May 23 2010 12:53 alexpnd wrote:
Man I never cried so much in my life beforez yo. Take it like a man. No.


Just like when satan and jesus fought, satan bet against himself and made a bunch of money lol.

Southpark ofcourse
savior did nothing wrong
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
May 23 2010 06:03 GMT
#49
On May 22 2010 22:52 Rickilicious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 16:05 Lucktar wrote:
^ Nah, that's the thing. Most people threw games for like 5-8 thousand USD. It's pretty heartbreaking that they'd be willing/desperate enough to throw away a career for that kind of money.



really? That's odd, I heard obviously from an unreliable source in an interview that they make 6 figures. If they do make that much and throw games for 10 grand, that's phail.


No. Only the biggest stars make money like that.

Imagine you're Savior. You go from nothing to a somebody. You're making six figures for playing a game. But you're slipping and progaming is a very temporary profession with no reliable follow-up career opportunities. Maybe you could stay near the top if you could get your game together, but the fire isn't in your eye anymore.



Intellectually, it's not hard to understand why these people did what they did. And I will still love Savior's gameplay. But I cannot forgive him even if I can understand it. That kind of selfish dishonesty puts the entire industry in jeopardy all for the sake of a quick buck. It betrays the teams and the fans.

On a smaller scale, it's like what Goldman Sachs does.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Mojawi)SoJu
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)259 Posts
May 23 2010 06:08 GMT
#50
I remember the Calm's one ahah
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
May 23 2010 06:11 GMT
#51
You know all those match rigging and stuff should be handled by the coaches and managers of the team. Think about it, the match rigging in Proleague only affected the team so the coaches or manager can choose to punish the player or not. In individual league, if you choose to lose a game or 2, then its YOUR problem for doing so. No need to get the government into this.
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kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
May 23 2010 06:12 GMT
#52
WHAT SONG IS THIS?
kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
May 23 2010 06:15 GMT
#53
On May 22 2010 09:21 theramstoss wrote:
http://todayhumor.co.kr/board/view.php?table=bestofbest&no=36250&page=2&keyfield=&keyword=&sb=

The passion and hard work of these players..

Players showing tears after winning/losing important/not so important (but important to them) matches.



What's the name of that song playing?
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
May 23 2010 06:40 GMT
#54
God... I'm still in the denial/shock phase. Savior, our only freaking zerg bonjwa, who so many people admired, LED the parade of cheaters. It's kind of like finding out that your most favourite uncle ever molested you as a child.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
May 23 2010 07:42 GMT
#55
I'll attempt to do a quick (full) translation for everyone:
+ Show Spoiler +

Title: "What Ma-Garbage Betrayed" (TL note: also roughly close, you can replace 'betrayed' with 'tainted' 'ruined' 'disgraced' etc. Also, Ma-Garbage refers to... Ma Jae Yoon aka sAviOr, Roll-Ex, Oops[Busted], etc.)

1) YoonJoung (Shuttle) shedding tears after qualifying for a StarLeague

2) Olympus StarLeague finals, XellOs beat YellOw and in the interview, said "I love you mom" and burst into tears.

3) the fifth Royal Roader to win the title! // Sol Starleague Winner, Anytime! // the dream he never gave up // Sol Starleague, Anytime sheds tears after defeating BoxeR in the finals.

4) 5 silvers in major tournaments // when his opponent shed tears of joy // when his opponent shed tears of joy, he shed his own in backstage. // Olympus StarLeague finals, YellOw crying silently backstage after being defeated by XellOs.

5) After beating Stork in the finals, Jaedong embraces his mother and sheds tears.

6) (TL note: the direct translation is "complete championship" but I think it's referring to the SKY Proleague 2006 Playoffs) With the game lost and hopeless, firebathero is unable to type GG (TL note: because he is sad. T_T) and he cries in to his keyboard.

7) Shinhan Proleague Pre-Playoffs (TL note: 3rd/4th place team match. I think this was in 2009), CJ vs. Hite game 1 ace match on Colosseum, Leta loses to Movie and stays in his booth, crying.

8) I thought it would be difficult // when I saw my dad in the crowd // I gained mental strength and was able to comeback (and win the title) // [dad was] always a strong, confident figure // Daum Starleague finals, GGPlay comes back from a 0:2 deficit to win the title in a counter-sweep, 3:2. During the interview, he talks about the impact of his father and cannot hold back his tears.

9) MSL Ro32, Tempest defeats RuBy to advance to Ro16 and sheds tears.

10) NaDa crying after being defeated by JangBi in the Ro8 (TL note: tournament not mentioned) by a score of 2:3.

11) we were the underdogs // we are proud to be on the finals stage // you [fans] cheered for us and gave us support (It's alright) (TL note: the 'it's alright' probably the crowd reaction) // we are sorry (It's alright) (TL note: same as above) // After losing in the finals to Pantech EX, TheWinD and Yooi shed tears during the interview.

12) Bisu crying at the farewell party as he leaves MBCHero to join SKT1.

13) this victory and glory // I dedicate it to my father in heaven // this moment, we all cried (TL note: this blurb is probably the broadcaster's comment) // Shinhan Starleague Season 2, Nada defeats Anytime 3:2 in the finals and wins the tournament, claiming his golden mouse. During the interview, he makes the dedication and cries.

14) Avalon MSL Semifinals, Calm sheds tears after his victory over Jaedong.

15) (TL note: Lost Saga MSL 2009 based on the mentioned players) After losing in the finals to Luxury, JangBi burst into tears when he saw his mother.


Apologies for the rough job (I just did it as quick as I could), but if it helps, feel free to add it to OP. I also shed some tears during the translating process, especially at the NaDa part...
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chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2599 Posts
May 23 2010 07:55 GMT
#56
On May 23 2010 16:42 OpticalShot wrote:
I'll attempt to do a quick (full) translation for everyone:
+ Show Spoiler +

Title: "What Ma-Garbage Betrayed" (TL note: also roughly close, you can replace 'betrayed' with 'tainted' 'ruined' 'disgraced' etc. Also, Ma-Garbage refers to... Ma Jae Yoon aka sAviOr, Roll-Ex, Oops[Busted], etc.)

1) YoonJoung (Shuttle) shedding tears after qualifying for a StarLeague

2) Olympus StarLeague finals, XellOs beat YellOw and in the interview, said "I love you mom" and burst into tears.

3) the fifth Royal Roader to win the title! // Sol Starleague Winner, Anytime! // the dream he never gave up // Sol Starleague, Anytime sheds tears after defeating BoxeR in the finals.

4) 5 silvers in major tournaments // when his opponent shed tears of joy // when his opponent shed tears of joy, he shed his own in backstage. // Olympus StarLeague finals, YellOw crying silently backstage after being defeated by XellOs.

5) After beating Stork in the finals, Jaedong embraces his mother and sheds tears.

6) (TL note: the direct translation is "complete championship" but I think it's referring to the SKY Proleague 2006 Playoffs) With the game lost and hopeless, firebathero is unable to type GG (TL note: because he is sad. T_T) and he cries in to his keyboard.

7) Shinhan Proleague Pre-Playoffs (TL note: 3rd/4th place team match. I think this was in 2009), CJ vs. Hite game 1 ace match on Colosseum, Leta loses to Movie and stays in his booth, crying.

8) I thought it would be difficult // when I saw my dad in the crowd // I gained mental strength and was able to comeback (and win the title) // [dad was] always a strong, confident figure // Daum Starleague finals, GGPlay comes back from a 0:2 deficit to win the title in a counter-sweep, 3:2. During the interview, he talks about the impact of his father and cannot hold back his tears.

9) MSL Ro32, Tempest defeats RuBy to advance to Ro16 and sheds tears.

10) NaDa crying after being defeated by JangBi in the Ro8 (TL note: tournament not mentioned) by a score of 2:3.

11) we were the underdogs // we are proud to be on the finals stage // you [fans] cheered for us and gave us support (It's alright) (TL note: the 'it's alright' probably the crowd reaction) // we are sorry (It's alright) (TL note: same as above) // After losing in the finals to Pantech EX, TheWinD and Yooi shed tears during the interview.

12) Bisu crying at the farewell party as he leaves MBCHero to join SKT1.

13) this victory and glory // I dedicate it to my father in heaven // this moment, we all cried (TL note: this blurb is probably the broadcaster's comment) // Shinhan Starleague Season 2, Nada defeats Anytime 3:2 in the finals and wins the tournament, claiming his golden mouse. During the interview, he makes the dedication and cries.

14) Avalon MSL Semifinals, Calm sheds tears after his victory over Jaedong.

15) (TL note: Lost Saga MSL 2009 based on the mentioned players) After losing in the finals to Luxury, JangBi burst into tears when he saw his mother.


Apologies for the rough job (I just did it as quick as I could), but if it helps, feel free to add it to OP. I also shed some tears during the translating process, especially at the NaDa part...


Many thanks opticalshot!!! i had difficulty remembering wut happened or who the pro-gamer is >__< never knew bisu cried ever
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
May 23 2010 10:43 GMT
#57
This makes me so mad right now. That said, I'm personally glad that of all the big old school names in BW, Savior was the only one involved. If someone like Boxer or Reach were implicated I might never be able to watch professional SC again.
But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
May 23 2010 11:08 GMT
#58
On May 23 2010 16:42 OpticalShot wrote:
I'll attempt to do a quick (full) translation for everyone:
+ Show Spoiler +

Title: "What Ma-Garbage Betrayed" (TL note: also roughly close, you can replace 'betrayed' with 'tainted' 'ruined' 'disgraced' etc. Also, Ma-Garbage refers to... Ma Jae Yoon aka sAviOr, Roll-Ex, Oops[Busted], etc.)

1) YoonJoung (Shuttle) shedding tears after qualifying for a StarLeague

2) Olympus StarLeague finals, XellOs beat YellOw and in the interview, said "I love you mom" and burst into tears.

3) the fifth Royal Roader to win the title! // Sol Starleague Winner, Anytime! // the dream he never gave up // Sol Starleague, Anytime sheds tears after defeating BoxeR in the finals.

4) 5 silvers in major tournaments // when his opponent shed tears of joy // when his opponent shed tears of joy, he shed his own in backstage. // Olympus StarLeague finals, YellOw crying silently backstage after being defeated by XellOs.

5) After beating Stork in the finals, Jaedong embraces his mother and sheds tears.

6) (TL note: the direct translation is "complete championship" but I think it's referring to the SKY Proleague 2006 Playoffs) With the game lost and hopeless, firebathero is unable to type GG (TL note: because he is sad. T_T) and he cries in to his keyboard.

7) Shinhan Proleague Pre-Playoffs (TL note: 3rd/4th place team match. I think this was in 2009), CJ vs. Hite game 1 ace match on Colosseum, Leta loses to Movie and stays in his booth, crying.

8) I thought it would be difficult // when I saw my dad in the crowd // I gained mental strength and was able to comeback (and win the title) // [dad was] always a strong, confident figure // Daum Starleague finals, GGPlay comes back from a 0:2 deficit to win the title in a counter-sweep, 3:2. During the interview, he talks about the impact of his father and cannot hold back his tears.

9) MSL Ro32, Tempest defeats RuBy to advance to Ro16 and sheds tears.

10) NaDa crying after being defeated by JangBi in the Ro8 (TL note: tournament not mentioned) by a score of 2:3.

11) we were the underdogs // we are proud to be on the finals stage // you [fans] cheered for us and gave us support (It's alright) (TL note: the 'it's alright' probably the crowd reaction) // we are sorry (It's alright) (TL note: same as above) // After losing in the finals to Pantech EX, TheWinD and Yooi shed tears during the interview.

12) Bisu crying at the farewell party as he leaves MBCHero to join SKT1.

13) this victory and glory // I dedicate it to my father in heaven // this moment, we all cried (TL note: this blurb is probably the broadcaster's comment) // Shinhan Starleague Season 2, Nada defeats Anytime 3:2 in the finals and wins the tournament, claiming his golden mouse. During the interview, he makes the dedication and cries.

14) Avalon MSL Semifinals, Calm sheds tears after his victory over Jaedong.

15) (TL note: Lost Saga MSL 2009 based on the mentioned players) After losing in the finals to Luxury, JangBi burst into tears when he saw his mother.


Apologies for the rough job (I just did it as quick as I could), but if it helps, feel free to add it to OP. I also shed some tears during the translating process, especially at the NaDa part...


Thanks for the translations.
grax
Profile Joined June 2009
United States41 Posts
May 23 2010 11:12 GMT
#59
So many drama queens in this thread.

Anyone who would stop watching BW over this needs to pull his head out of his ass.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
May 23 2010 11:31 GMT
#60
Nada and YellOw made me soooooooooooo sad... My eyes got wet...
Amazing. Thanks for the links, and the translation =)
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