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tomstrife
Profile Joined October 2007
United States54 Posts
May 13 2010 07:42 GMT
#161
The only Protoss Flash doesn't roll all the time is Bisu.


And that is only because he can't make it past the qualifiers for the OSL and MSL .
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
May 13 2010 07:47 GMT
#162
i thnk the recalling of hallucinations coul dbe good, clear out the mines and then recall the real units so your units don't die asap
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
May 13 2010 07:51 GMT
#163
Can't happen, it's much harder to rely on a crazy strategy just to win, IMO they should play much more greedy to force flash out and have a timing counter so then if they succeed flash will be too far to come back. OR - - some really creative arb recall strat (sort of like what Kal was trying to do on fighting) but keep their bases^^
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 13 2010 07:55 GMT
#164
On May 13 2010 16:42 tomstrife wrote:
The only Protoss Flash doesn't roll all the time is Bisu.


And that is only because he can't make it past the qualifiers for the OSL and MSL .

stork, jangbi, and best have had success at times.
Free has a decent chance - he has been really solid, and a good solid toss that has a slight unexpected element to their gameplay (unexpected, solid timing for carriers with a solid ground force), can beat flash.
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d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
May 13 2010 08:20 GMT
#165
i think it's a good idea and should be used when flash forces a "divide the map" scenario, which is what he does when he's behind. a situation like flash vs movie in osl finals game 1 where movie was on 6 bases to flash's 4 is a good example of when toss could use this
manner
slowmanrunning
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada285 Posts
May 13 2010 08:32 GMT
#166
so... if you can't beat flash in a PvT, what makes you think it would work better for you to switch to another race you don't play? I'm not really a follower of flash, but I would think his TvT is better than some Protoss players.

Or is there a certain army composition I'm missing?
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HTX
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany265 Posts
May 13 2010 08:42 GMT
#167
Think if we talk about hallucinations then P should consider a carrier trap. Just build 1 carrier and make some hallucinations then go all in with yourProtoss ground army and kill most of the terran units. The next terran ball will be mostly goliath so P can stick to ground units and storms and crush him hard.
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saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
May 13 2010 08:42 GMT
#168
On May 13 2010 17:32 slowmanrunning wrote:
so... if you can't beat flash in a PvT, what makes you think it would work better for you to switch to another race you don't play? I'm not really a follower of flash, but I would think his TvT is better than some Protoss players.

Or is there a certain army composition I'm missing?



tank/recall is awesome
carrier tank against goliaths
dmatrix on arbitors/emp on terran vessels

imba
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
May 13 2010 08:55 GMT
#169
On May 13 2010 17:42 HTX wrote:
Think if we talk about hallucinations then P should consider a carrier trap. Just build 1 carrier and make some hallucinations then go all in with yourProtoss ground army and kill most of the terran units. The next terran ball will be mostly goliath so P can stick to ground units and storms and crush him hard.

I like this idea! Haha.
InFdude
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Bulgaria619 Posts
May 13 2010 09:31 GMT
#170
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emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
May 13 2010 10:02 GMT
#171
On May 13 2010 18:31 InFdude wrote:
I was also thinking about the OPs idea after watching a rep posted here . Some guy P who was obviously better than the T stole an SCV and made tanks .He was messing around alot so he could have lost but IMO in the end T couldnt do shit against recalling clumped siege tanks .When you recall them they will fire first because T won't be able to see them and if T somehow manages to get close to you you can just recall them again 5 meters away and they will fire first again and kill everything in sight.

protoss have arbiters and recall researched

terran must be stupid do not make goalith and turrets
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
May 13 2010 10:20 GMT
#172
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don't 12nex ...
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Ruff
Profile Joined August 2006
Kazakhstan179 Posts
May 13 2010 10:40 GMT
#173
No stupid double nex
"Keep on dreaming, boy, cause someday you will shine" (Ogogo).
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
May 13 2010 10:49 GMT
#174
looooooooool
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free fail =(
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
May 13 2010 11:19 GMT
#175
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They can't.
TheMute
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States458 Posts
May 13 2010 11:20 GMT
#176
This is ridiculous. You're pretty much saying every P player should just TvT vs Flash.
Friends are simply people you can do/say vulgar things to.
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
May 13 2010 11:20 GMT
#177
On May 13 2010 19:02 emucxg wrote:
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On May 13 2010 18:31 InFdude wrote:
I was also thinking about the OPs idea after watching a rep posted here . Some guy P who was obviously better than the T stole an SCV and made tanks .He was messing around alot so he could have lost but IMO in the end T couldnt do shit against recalling clumped siege tanks .When you recall them they will fire first because T won't be able to see them and if T somehow manages to get close to you you can just recall them again 5 meters away and they will fire first again and kill everything in sight.

protoss have arbiters and recall researched

terran must be stupid do not make goalith and turrets


also, after MCing scvs and start building, by mind controlling an extra vulture and a tank means the protoss can get free vulture speed, mines and tank siege upgrades
JodoYodo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1772 Posts
May 13 2010 13:17 GMT
#178
On May 13 2010 20:20 TheMute wrote:
This is ridiculous. You're pretty much saying every P player should just TvT vs Flash.

That's not what he's saying, obviously.

Also fake Carriers is not worth it at all. Do you know how much a Fleet Beacon costs???
Dance dance dance 'till we run this town!
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
May 13 2010 13:28 GMT
#179
How about playing like this?

dtnmang
Profile Joined April 2010
Vietnam752 Posts
May 13 2010 14:01 GMT
#180
Try to deny Flash's third?
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