It's common to complain about TvP imba on new and unusual maps, because that matchup depends so heavily on the terrain, and because new and unusual maps tend to contain:

1) Cramped spaces (particularly a cramped path Terran can push along)
2) Very easy thirds, often very easy fourth or even fifth expansions
3) Easy sneak-around paths for vultures (bonus points if they're too narrow for a dragoon-heavy Protoss army to maneuver through, and even more if they can't be blocked with pylons)
4) 'Tankable' positions that drastically cut the push distance for Terran but not for Protoss

A large, open map with expansions pushed up against the sides of the map and a couple handy chokes so that vultures can't easily raid your bases, and either a difficult third or a difficult fourth, will allow Protoss to set up a favorable macro game against Terran and wear them down. Even a 200/200 3/3 Terran ball is susceptible to 20+gateways of reinforcement, provided the terrain allows Protoss to spread out and flank. If the terrain does not, Protoss has to take a more aggressive hand and prevent the Terran from ever getting that many units. Terran defense being as strong as it is, this is hard unless the map is friendly to carriers.

Or maybe I don't understand PvT.

phosphorylation

United States2935 Posts

March 14 2010 06:03 GMT

#146

On March 14 2010 14:41 Bl1ss wrote:
What i find interesting is how Inferno fails to have a pagan star. Why the Jew Star?

maybe jews = devils in korea

konadora

Singapore66365 Posts

March 14 2010 06:05 GMT

#147

don't overread it -_-

they just think it looks nice, like holy world and tears of the moon's deco and stuff.

Jenia6109

Russian Federation1613 Posts

March 14 2010 06:20 GMT

#148

Wow, this map pool is crazy. I was worried about map makers after last boring map poll. But this surpass all expectations.

Checkmate is like ok map. Rather standart to be honest

Inferno seems like Medusa + Moon Glaive + Blistering Sands :D I like the idea of second entrance to main base though it can be little unbalanced. This map dont seem very novice but it's ok

I actually dont like Fortress. It reminds me of boring Judgement Day... And it doesnt seem balanced with so short distances between main bases

But other maps...

Ghost Path is so novice, with two different paths to enemy base. This idea already was on Monty Hall and Hitchhiker and those maps were awesome. Anyway this map looks rather novice.

Polaris Rhapsody
I love this kind of maps. It's great when u can attack straight or from sides. It gives to players many strategical moves.

Grand Line
Same as Polaris Rhapsody, i love this kind of maps. I'm looking forward to watch many awesome games on these maps.

Mastermind

Canada7096 Posts

March 14 2010 06:49 GMT

#149

These maps look ridiculous.

gaizka

United States991 Posts

March 14 2010 07:07 GMT

#150

One Piece!!!

d_so

Korea (South)3262 Posts

March 14 2010 07:10 GMT

#151

everyone keeps talking about how ghosts path is like montys hall.. but i think polaris is most similar to monty hall. not just because there are three directions of attack but also there are three possible directions to take your third, each with their positives, drawbacks and strategic implications

Apex

United States7227 Posts

March 14 2010 08:06 GMT

#152

Inferno looks cool, but I don't like Checkmate at all.

Checkmate does seem to promote major flanking possibilities though. That could be good for Zerg.

Kyuukyuu

Canada6263 Posts

March 14 2010 08:17 GMT

#153

Lyriene got a star!!!

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

March 14 2010 08:38 GMT

#154

Checkmate is gay...
Favorite is ghost path.

Crunchums

United States11144 Posts

March 14 2010 09:04 GMT

#155

checkmate ~ geometry
looks awful because it's really hard to make sense of the map; just very visually confusing

ghost path reminds me a lot of valley of the wind
looks sexy as hell but I question its balance because it also reminds me of monty hall and baekmagoji

polaris rhapsody is another map in the vein of blue storm / match point, looks pretty interesting, dig the expo placement

inferno is medusa except they moved your backdoor min only to an island and gave it a gas. blech

grand line is very reminiscent of iron curtain except obv it's a 1v1 map. looks decent but I worry about balance and it's not as exciting as its compatriots

no idea what to think about fortress, best comparison might be plasma. very likely it's not very balanced

zFly

United States75 Posts

March 14 2010 09:18 GMT

#156

These maps look amazing.

Mystlord

United States10264 Posts

March 14 2010 09:19 GMT

#157

Checkmate: Looks absolutely ridiculous. God, when the players look at the minimap, they'll be seeing those letters all over... Ugh. As for the map itself... "Meh" is all I have to say.

Ghost Path: Really interesting map, buuut it looks like there will never be a PvZ on this map because Forge FE looks impossible.

Polaris Rhapsody: Looks standard... But why is the third gas so freaking far? You have to take such a long trek to get to it.

Inferno: It's like Medusa.

Grand Line: Interesting... Not really. It feels really generic.

Fortress: The ability to camp tanks on top of that cliff near the natural is scary. Aside from that, it's like gas heaven. I sense the resurgence of Outsider-like strategies on that map.