EPTWell, it's still JD vs Flash. Hopefully the streams don't get overloaded or something.
MSL Final to be not-quite "live," and fanclub only - Page 15
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yes9111
United States420 Posts
Well, it's still JD vs Flash. Hopefully the streams don't get overloaded or something. | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
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supernovamaniac
United States3046 Posts
But that was one of the older stadiums where people just tried to pack themselves, just like the SKY Proleagues and the old Ever Starleagues, right? I think I also remember watching a VOD where there were thousands of fans outside the studio (the place where they held so1 starleague and such), watching the action through a tiny ass television. | ||
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HonestTea
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Progaming isn't healthy, not even in Korea. They can call it e-sports all they want but it remains a niche hobby with a small following that loses money every year. | ||
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KristianJS
2107 Posts
On January 21 2010 10:09 supernovamaniac wrote: So you're saying first come first serve? Ok then. Let's leave Jaedong/Flash's parents out of the stadium if they arrive late. Along with the fanclub members to both of the players if they arrive late. You think you guys have better luck because you guys actually support them throughout the whole year? Well, suck it up. It might be unnecessary to get rid of regular audience, yes. But completely fucking unnecessary? So in the end, after calculating all those people, there are few seats... lets say... 10~50 or so. And with those seats left, thousands of people will race to the auditorium to fight and take over the seats. Might as well as stand at the exits to watch the game, creating a fire hazard for over thousand people in the studio. I think you're missing the point. The problem is that Flash and JD won't be playing infront of the limited live audience there is. That's completely unnecessary. OK, they couldn't afford more than 1000 viewers in the venue, but it's completely (fucking) unnecessary to separate even those 1000 from the gamers. Even a small, dedicated crowd of fans is infinitely better than having the players in one room and the audience in another! Surely you can see that. btw I don't know what on earth made you think of something as silly as Jaedong/Flash's parents being left out for coming late. In any setup they would be guaranteed seats anyway -_- | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On January 20 2010 22:47 Highways wrote: I was expecting a crowd like this: ![[image loading]](http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6590/skypro8tb.gif) I've always been neutral about the OSL vs MSL debate, and always have thought it was the same. But it obvious which one is total shit now. This pretty much summarizes my exact feelings on the issue. Except for Jaedong Flash the size might of been double. | ||
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supernovamaniac
United States3046 Posts
Separating those 1000 limited viewers from the live game studio? I'm pretty sure those 1000 people were allowed in-stadium, while regular fans stay outside of the stadium. Although, people in the stadium have to watch the players play with the GREEN SCREEN behind them. | ||
NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
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DrTJEckleburg
United States1080 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On January 21 2010 11:15 DrTJEckleburg wrote: Is it just me or is it entirely possible that the games have already been played and will simply be re-broadcast on that particular day since nobody is actually seeing them play? If Jaedong or Flash comes out picking up their prices very bored, then yes it might be pre-recorded. Hell they might even pre-record the ceremonies and even the commentating. | ||
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On January 21 2010 11:10 supernovamaniac wrote: I was theoretically speaking. But some Koreans are ignorant to take their seats and say nothing about it, until they get kicked out of the stadium, or even get arrested. (I've seen many idiots when I was around 5~12, back in the days when I lived in Korea) Separating those 1000 limited viewers from the live game studio? I'm pretty sure those 1000 people were allowed in-stadium, while regular fans stay outside of the stadium. Although, people in the stadium have to watch the players play with the GREEN SCREEN behind them. Having fans watching outside of the venue is not physically possible during this time of year. Especially with the lingering worries over swine flu and general sickness. Considering the temperatures last week went down to -7c anyone who isn't fan club (and also Korean.) has basically been denied entry. There may be screens set up in the areas beyond the main studio where the 1000 fanclub members etc are, but it all depends upon the size of the actual building so I doubt the arrangement will accomodate many more people. Also the normal arrangement for ticketing at a finals runs like this; First come first served for general admissions. No charge of course for anyone. Fan club often has reserved seating in the main area directly behind the teams/company execs, family and friends of the players. It is never more than between 10-20 rows of seating. Fans line up according to whether they are fan club or not. Fan club leaders wear tags and are in charge of organizing the fans. Everything is far more civilized than you seem to think. There's no fighting and even if some fans do jostle a bit no one runs for seating or gets violent. One more note: I don't have an accurate way of even finding out whether this virtual studio will be located in the same building or not so don't be surprised if my coverage amounts to a few photos of some fans and a video or two of them in the auditorium. It all depends upon if my co-workers from Fomos turn up and are able to enlighten me to their location. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
On January 21 2010 11:18 Xiphos wrote: If Jaedong or Flash comes out picking up their prices very bored, then yes it might be pre-recorded. Hell they might even pre-record the ceremonies and even the commentating. omg it's just like our fake moon landing in the 60's | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
On January 20 2010 22:21 KwarK wrote: You'll probably find they make a loss on the stadium but make $ on tv ads. This is pretty damn lame though. Exactly, it seems to be just cutting stadium rental costs. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
what a fucking lame way to go -_- | ||
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moopie
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However, the virtual studio shit is pretty stupid. Not exactly sure what MBC is thinking on that, but someone, somewhere must have had his/her reasons. | ||
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On January 21 2010 12:54 moopie wrote: The studio-D thing has been known for a while, so I'm not sure why so many people are freaking out about the lack of possible attendance (which again, at most would have been about a 1000, even if open to the public). However, the virtual studio shit is pretty stupid. Not exactly sure what MBC is thinking on that, but someone, somewhere must have had his/her reasons. Known for a while *if* you happen to read Korean and knew about the capacity for the auditorium itself - which not even myself (working on the front line of Korean eSports.) knew until it was translated properly. I think all things considered people have a right to 'freak out' over how much of a crappy deal this is for the fans, both Korean who will now not be able to attend and foreign who will miss out on the atmosphere of a finals with the players in the same room as the fans - which a lot of us appreciate. Also 'which again, at most would have been about a 1000, even if open to the public' this is completely inaccurate. Especially for a finals with such high profile players. Even the shoddiest of finals (*coughKwanroCalmcough*) attracts more than 1000 people. | ||
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goswser
United States3519 Posts
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On January 21 2010 13:03 Newguy wrote: Are they fucking insane? I'm staying up all night to watch this, because it could produce some of the best starcraft games ever seen. It won't be nearly as interesting watching the game without players in front of the crowd though, imagine buying tickets to cheer at that... and wouldn't that also hurt the players, since the crowd could invigorate them to play harder? No events charge entrance fees. However, from the netizen comments and the comments here the general consensus seems to be that this is an idiotic series of decisions upon MBC's part. | ||
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goswser
United States3519 Posts
Oh and by the way, let this be a wake-up call to all the ostriches with their heads in the sand. Progaming isn't healthy, not even in Korea. They can call it e-sports all they want but it remains a niche hobby with a small following that loses money every year. Hmmm, does it really lose money every year or are you just saying that?? Livestreams from teamliquid have more people on them I'm pretty sure, some 3700 people on roffles stream alone for osl finals, did that many people watch a finals on teamliquid in the past?? Also, progamers aren't all in bad health, look at Air Force Ace for example. They are a proteam with some pretty damn good players and every single member of the team is in good health. | ||
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Archon_Wing
United States378 Posts
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