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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
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DoX.)
Singapore6164 Posts
On December 28 2009 21:12 IdrA wrote: darkelf left cj less than a year ago and he played a match for airforce an hour ago oh my god | ||
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Tomcat
Romania136 Posts
Besides, why the hell would you want to slave away in one of these modern-day labour camps ? It might suit the Asian style, but not the rest of the world. SC1 is prolly gonna be over soon anyway and SC2 will level the playing field more or less. Foreigners will NEVER hit it big with SC1. Accept that and move on. Sure, you can rake in some cash winning some nice foreign leagues, but if you want SC to be your main source of income, you're in for a lot of disappointment. You want to make easy money, better go play poker. I mean, I'm not ignorant, I'm all for setting a goal and striving to attain it, but like many have already pointed out, you have to know your limits. Putting your entire life for something unattainable (and it is so these days) is not a wise decision. Respect to Nony and Ret for not letting themselves get brainwashed by those silly Koreans. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On December 28 2009 21:12 IdrA wrote: darkelf left cj less than a year ago and he played a match for airforce an hour ago This made my day. | ||
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Badjas
Netherlands2038 Posts
On December 28 2009 21:12 IdrA wrote: darkelf left cj less than a year ago and he played a match for airforce an hour ago Clearly, Dark Elf is the secret identity of a Seoul based business lawyer. On regular days he spends his time defending people in court and filing paperwork. Thanking his wife for dinner. Watch the news. But when you least expect it, he dashes to the nearest phone booth or programer house toilet, dons his Airforce Ace tights, and takes on the forces of evil that roam the BW pro scene! | ||
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
On December 28 2009 21:19 Tomcat wrote: You want to make easy money, better go play poker. I mean, I'm not ignorant, I'm all for setting a goal and striving to attain it, but like many have already pointed out, you have to know your limits. Putting your entire life for something unattainable (and it is so these days) is not a wise decision. how many people lose money compared to make money in poker simple economics? | ||
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torm3ntin
Brazil2534 Posts
GL for him in every decision he takes. As everyone said before props to IdrA for living in a hell like that. | ||
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
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white
Korea (North)62 Posts
On December 28 2009 06:37 Rekrul wrote: Now I'm 104 kgs the fattest I've ever been in my life and believe me I can feel a huge difference in the way I am treated in general. Not that I give a fuck because I'm mother fucking rekrul Hell yeah I know people like Artosis like to advocate that you have to play starcraft1 a lot to improve your chances of becoming good at starcraft2. But he's dead wrong...he not exactly an unintelligent person, but sometimes he has mental blocks that cause him to do stupid things like play only one race for 11 years straight instead of dabbling a little in zerg or toss. Haha! | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
On December 28 2009 18:47 TeWy wrote: Your post just shows your complete ignorance of the e-sport world. Majority of SC sponsors and audiences are Koreans. The other e-sport audiences are completly game-dependant (like europe-china for War3 and europe-america for CS) and the majority of sponsors are americans (related to the audience). Second point, War3 failed in Korea because Koreans prefered SC (not because Moon didn't dominate the scene, that's a complete non-sense he basically won everything exept WCG), however, it didn't just "fail", War3 succeeded in Europe and particulary in China and permitted the creation of the well known "Dota" mode. The only thing that SC2 needs in order to be successful is a huge community attracting sponsors. If it can be half or 1/3 as successful as what SC is in Korea, everywhere else, I guess it would be fine and even way better than the current situation. I was just speculating. Moon was successful but he was a no body at the start. I'm talking about pre frozen scene. Koreans did not win anything major until years later and when that happened, it was the same group of players. The game never 'replaced' Starcraft in Korea. We can not compare CS, War3 with SC. SC is the most mature developed e-sport in the world. Every other game have tournaments but their sponsors are random and pretty much concentrate on the few 'grand slams' every year. It's not as professional as Starcraft which pretty much have the backing of the entire Korean corporates. Europe/American e-sport is successful? Please. Chinese e-sport had a great future but it went to shits when the government banned it on TV. There are legions of war3 players in China due to one reason and one reason only. Sky won 2 WCGs and college kids see it as something that they can be good at. Sad but true. I wonder how popular starcraft will be if Koreans keep getting smashed in WCG. Again, pure speculation, but I think people understand my point. For SC2 to be successful, it will have to replace BW. Simple as that, there is no way around it as they are competing against the same group of players and fans. | ||
KizZBG
u gotta skate8152 Posts
On December 28 2009 21:12 IdrA wrote: darkelf left cj less than a year ago and he played a match for airforce an hour ago ![[image loading]](http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a245/cadavron/30sy9hv.gif) | ||
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Altair
243 Posts
On December 28 2009 06:44 Weasel- wrote: I think I've learned more about Korean Starcraft in this one post than I have in the past 6 months reading stuff on TL. +1 | ||
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Creationism
China505 Posts
Cuz what happens here is a TV-show, entertainment. You dont actually watch House and go OMFG, that's how a hospital works. HE'S GOT LUPIS. Same idea here, its a show here, jus enjoy it, and please for the love of god don't think you can be a progamer... | ||
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edahl
Norway483 Posts
On December 28 2009 14:06 TeWy wrote: "Thou shall respect forum veterans". It is quite obvious, and it has even been proofed, that practicing too much a real sport is a bad thing. The physical drawbacks are obvious to everyone. E-sports induce some physical backwards too, but most of them are psychological, they're not obvious and they're perceived as a personal weakness despite the fact that the neurotransmitters involved are the same as those involved in a strain for example... It gives the illusion that "the more practice you can get the better it is", that is incorrect, that is just plain wrong... Sure for some players it is almost true but not for everyone, most of them are actually underperforming when fallowing a strict schedule and excessive training hours. Notice how the CS WMF team can't hold a handle to FnATIC and SK gaming, or how Moon who won nearly 300 000 dollars of prize monney in 2007-2008 didn't win any single tournament soon after he joined WMF. Wtf guys... practicing 10-12 hours a day 7days/7 ? Is that necessarily better than 8 hours a day with a day off ? No wonder why 95% of the SC pros suddenly crash after 2 years at the top… Be all certain that SK, MYM, WE (chinese), MOUZ, FNATIC, mb even EG, will all have a prestigious SC2 squad soon after its release. Be also sure that a lot of foreign tournaments/leagues will be created, and I know that it might sound crazy to some of you, but they will allow you to say "gl hf" along with VV without disqualifying you. Koreans are the pionneers of the E-sport, that is a fact, but their way of adapting it is tightly linked to their culture and the stupidity of their E-sport managers (aka kespa). Their way of dealing with it is not a model that we should blindly copy. These are exactly my thoughts on the subject. Living a life where you branch out, learn different skills, read books, meet people, ... is the only way you can really say you tried. Excessive training like that is called excessive for a reason. It may work for Korea because they think it does, but if you consider the skill of a lot of top foreign gamers, they have come pretty bloody far with almost no framework and maybe 3 hours practice. A work day (everywhere other than Korea it seems) is about 6-8 hours long, and there is a reason it's 6-8 hours long and not 12+. | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
in school or at least in my school i could always ask teachers for special things like "i wanna listen to the book instead of read it" etc and they would accept all teachers had the same attitude, "whatever makes it better for u to improve" but in korea i dont think they know about this method since they dont let players adapt at all which i find sad, a foreigner pro-team in would be a really cool idea but then again sc2 is comming to ggnore sc1 | ||
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AstraBoy
Peru363 Posts
come on the guy is 24!!!! he must be looking for a GF and get married, have his own house, a profession, etc not trying to be pro at a video game OMFG O_O 24 !!!!! | ||
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Ohjay
Germany83 Posts
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UlyssesPro
United States4 Posts
This piece carries little to no evidence of the author's assumptions about either Korean culture or Korean sociology and seems highly generalize. For Example "Koreans are fucking xenophobic as fuck. They are not happy go lucky to foreigners at all " Could we not say the exact same about Americans? Consider recent American attitude toward Hispanic immigrants / laborers etc. Mainstream news would have us believe they are stealing jobs and running drugs, both of which are simply 100 percent overgeneralized and oversimplified. I hope TL reconsiders what it chooses to feature on the homepage in the future. | ||
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