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shafiru
Profile Joined January 2009
111 Posts
December 30 2009 00:37 GMT
#601
Lol @ the D vs C- argument, hilarious.

For my own selfish pleasure, I want to see Ret in Korea forever.

However, realistically, just one more courage plzzzz He 3-0ed the guy who won the first one, and lost because of ZvZ in the second one, just one more try for the fan's pleasure

pretty please with a huge fucking cherry on top
bengaliToss ftw...
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
December 30 2009 00:40 GMT
#602
On December 30 2009 09:26 ghostWriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 08:16 So no fek wrote:
On December 30 2009 08:09 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 30 2009 08:07 mOnion wrote:
On December 30 2009 05:04 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 30 2009 04:44 AM.23)Jehuty wrote:
On December 30 2009 04:35 Hot_Bid wrote:
Oh snap D vs C- trash talk -_-


I'd rip his C- Trash into 3

He wont play me cause he will lose that rank easy ... wanna BO3?? Oh wait u already dodged

And i already made my point apparently so i am no longer gonna talk about the subject

If anybody wants a piece im right here otherwise man up and game.


Right your 10-22 d scares the shit out of me.

Are you really 26 and married? Because you seem to have the emotional stability and the mental acuity of someone half your age.


check his profile pic. definitely looks like a mature well spoken adult.



HAHAHA

"Hey mom! Look at me, I'm Spiderman!"

"Also, I wear sunglasses inside like a true douchebag."



Hey, I occasionally do this, and I realize I may look like a douchebag, but they're prescription, and I can't see shit without them. I'll generally either wear my regular glasses, or my sunglasses, without carrying the other around, so if I chose to wear my sunglasses, and I need to see something, you're damn right I'll be using them inside.


Sorry. But do you take pictures of yourself while wearing them and jumping around with your hands in the spiderman slinging his web around position when you pretend to be 26 years old and married?


Who Doesn't do this?
Never Knows Best.
geetarzero
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States217 Posts
December 30 2009 00:45 GMT
#603
i think ret can pull through this....and his ZvZ will become much more awesome.
sKyHigh? him? don't worry about it. (–_–)
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
December 30 2009 00:51 GMT
#604
On December 30 2009 02:45 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 02:21 ilbh wrote:
On December 29 2009 04:01 ret wrote:
I definately still believe it can be done in Korea.

I don't want to make excuses or anything, but there are guys who won their courage group this past weekend that I have played a lot with online and I had huge winning records on them. (T/P users). And I know other foreigners would do well vs them also.

But for me personally, age is a huge factor like some people here pointed out. If I was younger, I wouldn't even think twice about what to do and just keep trying my best and eventually win courage and just keep trying. But yes I am quite old, so wasting time would be bad, and with SC2 coming out I don't know how feasible it is to stay. I think someone like Kolll (very young, already very good, and not yet ruined by all the freedom you get after high school :p) would succeed here quite easily. I absolutely hate the fact that I 'failed' however, and it just hurts more to see players worse than you do well. Maybe I should try one more time D:



I just can't believe that after all rekrul said and after all that happened to you, you still come here to brag about some wins over people who won the courage and say that you are a better player than idra and it makes you sad to see him doing well...

You should be amazed that idra is doing well, you should copy every aspect of idra's life. he is not doing well just because he is good at SC, there is a lot of factors behind...

read read and re-read rekrul post.

You are white, a foreigner, don't speak korean, is a "big" person, you don't play ZvZ and you don't have the korean personality...

also the fact that you won one game against idra doesn't mean you are a better player.

to be a better player you need consistent results, accomplishment, discipline, patience to sit and repeat the same strategy over and over to become a robot, etc.

idra was the most hated person in the entire community, to become what he is now after all the hate... its not because his trolling is fun...





Did you even read what Ret wrote? Wtf are you trollin about?
Bragging? He even said he's not making excuses just lets us know that he can beat those guys. Nony could and he wasnt as dominant amongst foreigners as Ret is now.

His post has abolutely nothing to do with Idra, he doesnt even mentions him. You don't know shit about what Red or Idra does in Korea, nor do you know their personalities, yet you declare what Ret should do.

Who the hell is talking about that game? Not Ret for sure!
Ret has consistent results amongst foreginers. Idra did not have too much until like half a year ago, when he already spent a lot of time in Korea. Ret has dicipline, he's not a 16 years old korean kid, but this doesnt mean he's impatinet.

Idra's BM has nothing to do with his development/skill. He plays too well, and when he loses he talks trash. You try to suggest that he plays well BECAUSE he talks shit and thinks eveybody is a skilles newbie (i exaggerate a bit )?



????

I'm not trolling at all.

you completely misunderstood all I wrote... please, re-read my post and rekrul's
cause what you are talking is completely opposite to what I said.

I said that idra was hated and then he earned respect with in-game accomplishment, it was a huge come back, from the most hated person to one of the most respected players.

all I said about idra and ret was 100% following what rekrul said in his main post.
about their personality, what they have done, etc. (re-read rekrul's post, I don't want to copy/paste it here)

after all that happened, ret came here to say that he won against courage winners and is sad cause someone worse than him is doing well, but not him. tell me who is doing well in korea? its idra... there is no other foreigner in korea atm. oh come on...

if you want to show us that you are good, don't do that saying it, do it by accomplish something.
it is basic.


I'm done. Please, don't even answer this post.


Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
December 30 2009 00:57 GMT
#605
no one should answer ur post, because ur an idiot lol

lets take everything out of context and spew on the internet!
why so 진지해?
sprawlers
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway439 Posts
December 30 2009 01:00 GMT
#606
after all that happened, ret came here to say that he won against courage winners and is sad cause someone worse than him is doing well, but not him. tell me who is doing well in korea? its idra... there is no other foreigner in korea atm. oh come on...

He obviously meant the courage winners that he had huge winning records against, why did he have to be talking about a foreigner?
WaZuP
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany487 Posts
December 30 2009 01:07 GMT
#607
really nice read
gives u a good insight how hard progaming life is.
I would really like to see ret beating courgage and so on but like rekrul said if u have to become such a cold robot to have succes, i think its not worth that.
Fixed
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States174 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 01:42:06
December 30 2009 01:35 GMT
#608
Lol at anyone that thinks Rekrul is supporting himself in a foreign country and balling out of control by playing poker. Come on give me a break. All his posts about balling out of control in the most exclusive clubs in Korea. Meeting former presidents of countries. Asking which $100k or w/e car he should buy so he can bang the most elite girls in the world. How do you people buy into this crap? How do all of you seem to have inside info into Rekruls poker statistics? Are you sitting there with him while hes winning thousands every month to supprt himself in a foreign counrty? No. Are you believing what this clown posts on a starcraft forum over and over and over again? Yes. I guess if someone says something on the internet a million times there will be some people that believe it like a mindless donkey. Be realistic. The guy prolly has money wired from his mommy and daddy on a monthly basis. I'm glad some people have common sense and can see through him.

On topic. I think Ret should have expected to put in much more effort into this whole thing. He should have known that this wasn't going to be easy. There have been others that have gone and failed. It seems like he should have known what to expect a bit. I think ret will win courage if he simply attempts it enough times. Expecting to win it in 1 try is a bit cocky. He should expect to have to make about 5-10 attempts. I think too many people are rushing to Korea without the dedication that it actually takes. I hope that the next foreigner that goes has the work ethic and strength to ride it out. Idra seems to be the best example of someone that has what it takes there. I'm very impressed with Idra. He seems to fit in perfectly. I'm glad to see Idra is doing well. I'm glad his bm is mostly only an online thing. I've heard he is actually quite mannered in person. I'm curious as to how he has come so far without learning korean though? Or maybe im mistaken and he knows the basics now? It seems like he is a very analytical person and likes going over games. I'm also curious as to how well he can do this with his practice partners at CJ?
fanatacist likes men.....but mostly boys...and some anal toys. Also his ability to read and understand posts is on par with a slightly retarded meerkat.
CoOl]1st[
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States243 Posts
December 30 2009 01:37 GMT
#609
rekrul the situation you described.. is similiar to alot of other sports? i mean obviously if you want to be the best at anything you have to practice alot, respect the coach, etc. you didn't really say anything we don't already know.
Wizard]1st[ fighting :O
SpaNiarD
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Spain352 Posts
December 30 2009 01:43 GMT
#610
1 2 3 rekrul hwaiting!
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
December 30 2009 02:16 GMT
#611
On December 30 2009 09:26 ghostWriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 08:16 So no fek wrote:
On December 30 2009 08:09 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 30 2009 08:07 mOnion wrote:
On December 30 2009 05:04 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 30 2009 04:44 AM.23)Jehuty wrote:
On December 30 2009 04:35 Hot_Bid wrote:
Oh snap D vs C- trash talk -_-


I'd rip his C- Trash into 3

He wont play me cause he will lose that rank easy ... wanna BO3?? Oh wait u already dodged

And i already made my point apparently so i am no longer gonna talk about the subject

If anybody wants a piece im right here otherwise man up and game.


Right your 10-22 d scares the shit out of me.

Are you really 26 and married? Because you seem to have the emotional stability and the mental acuity of someone half your age.


check his profile pic. definitely looks like a mature well spoken adult.



HAHAHA

"Hey mom! Look at me, I'm Spiderman!"

"Also, I wear sunglasses inside like a true douchebag."



Hey, I occasionally do this, and I realize I may look like a douchebag, but they're prescription, and I can't see shit without them. I'll generally either wear my regular glasses, or my sunglasses, without carrying the other around, so if I chose to wear my sunglasses, and I need to see something, you're damn right I'll be using them inside.


Sorry. But do you take pictures of yourself while wearing them and jumping around with your hands in the spiderman slinging his web around position when you pretend to be 26 years old and married?


Yes, while in my underwear. ^^
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errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
December 30 2009 02:39 GMT
#612
On December 30 2009 09:51 ilbh wrote:
you completely misunderstood all I wrote... please, re-read my post and rekrul's


please, re-read rekrul's latest post, over and over.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
December 30 2009 02:55 GMT
#613
On December 30 2009 11:16 So no fek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 09:26 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 30 2009 08:16 So no fek wrote:
On December 30 2009 08:09 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 30 2009 08:07 mOnion wrote:
On December 30 2009 05:04 ghostWriter wrote:
On December 30 2009 04:44 AM.23)Jehuty wrote:
On December 30 2009 04:35 Hot_Bid wrote:
Oh snap D vs C- trash talk -_-


I'd rip his C- Trash into 3

He wont play me cause he will lose that rank easy ... wanna BO3?? Oh wait u already dodged

And i already made my point apparently so i am no longer gonna talk about the subject

If anybody wants a piece im right here otherwise man up and game.


Right your 10-22 d scares the shit out of me.

Are you really 26 and married? Because you seem to have the emotional stability and the mental acuity of someone half your age.


check his profile pic. definitely looks like a mature well spoken adult.



HAHAHA

"Hey mom! Look at me, I'm Spiderman!"

"Also, I wear sunglasses inside like a true douchebag."



Hey, I occasionally do this, and I realize I may look like a douchebag, but they're prescription, and I can't see shit without them. I'll generally either wear my regular glasses, or my sunglasses, without carrying the other around, so if I chose to wear my sunglasses, and I need to see something, you're damn right I'll be using them inside.


Sorry. But do you take pictures of yourself while wearing them and jumping around with your hands in the spiderman slinging his web around position when you pretend to be 26 years old and married?


Yes, while in my underwear. ^^


One thousand apologies.


On December 30 2009 09:37 shafiru wrote:
Lol @ the D vs C- argument, hilarious.

For my own selfish pleasure, I want to see Ret in Korea forever.

However, realistically, just one more courage plzzzz He 3-0ed the guy who won the first one, and lost because of ZvZ in the second one, just one more try for the fan's pleasure

pretty please with a huge fucking cherry on top


I'm not a c-, I just happen to be c- right now! GOD


And I think that Idra is a douchebag with no online manners, but that's just the pot calling the kettle black. I do applaud his abilities, as well as his dedication and I look forward to watching any future success he may have.
Sullifam
XOR3000
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany60 Posts
December 30 2009 03:04 GMT
#614
While reading through this thread I thought of so many things I could write to pass some wisdom or clear things up - like Koreans being xenophobic and stuff. But in the end this is more or less a waste of time.
It is all so freakin' easy: don't be a smart-ass on things you have never personally experienced or at least have fundamental experience on related subjects.
If you do not work for your own living don't tell people which job they should or should not choose.
If you are not at an age where marriage is (or could be) an option for you don't give advises on how people should plan their lives.
If you have never been to Korea don't tell the world how Koreans generally behave.

Sorry for being somewhat offT but this is the closest I could get onT today.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 04:58:02
December 30 2009 03:25 GMT
#615
Sullifam
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 04:32:10
December 30 2009 04:30 GMT
#616
On December 30 2009 08:05 ghostWriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 07:28 StarBrift wrote:
On December 30 2009 05:25 ghostWriter wrote:
The thing is, people feel entitled to their own opinions. You can't stop them from giving it. But ret giving up this early isn't an indication that he really took everything carefully into account before making a decision. It also reflects badly on other foreigners who want to go into progaming as well.


If someone actually thinks worse of foreigners because of anything Ret has done then that's due to them being incredibly narrow minded or flat out presumptious about the situation. These people are bandwagoners and will follow anything that a large enough number of people says. Trying to appease them is nothing short of idiocy.

Do you seriously believe that Ret should have considered that some narrow minded korean person would discriminate against other white people if he failed? Do you honestly believe that is a reasonable demand to put on a person who wants to pursue his dream?

As I said, this argument makes me sick.


I was talking about the people who run the teams, including the coaches and the managers, not to mention the gamers themselves. The most recent foreigners on a team that I can think of is Idra, Nony and ret, so ret going to Estro means that he and Idra are the only representatives for foreign gamers. Since they have an opportunity to live with other gamers, obviously the Koreans will make judgments on what they see. How many more foreigners will they be willing to take when Nony and ret washed out so quickly? And obviously I can't expect Ret to consider this when he went there, but the fact is that it is a factor. I'm not putting the demand on him, it's already there. Don't pretend you don't ever make judgment calls on entire other groups of people based on the actions of a few individuals. It's impossible not to, our brains are hardwired to think like that, no matter how politically correct you try to be.


If you judge billions of people based on what 3 other people that look kinda like them did then you are the definition of a judgemental douchebag. Just because you treat people badly does not mean the rest of the world does. Even if they did that doesn't make that kind of behavior somehow desirable. Being a jackass is not something good regardless of how many people are.

If coaches would judge all other foreigner players for all enternity based on 2 courage matches then what are you supposed to do? They are bound to be judgemental whatever you do. Even discussing this as if Ret somehow is responsible for shit like that is ridiculous.

I know you never admit you're wrong ever on this forum. But please do take a step back and look at your posts this time.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 04:43:41
December 30 2009 04:43 GMT
#617
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
January 05 2010 02:29 GMT
#618
On December 30 2009 05:35 mel_ee wrote:
I really want to thank you all for providing such an interesting thread to read...

PLEASE PLEASE please stop giving advice about Korean things if youre not even Korean or have never LIVED in that country. A visit doesnt count...


I agree with this.
Follow me on Twitter for pictures of cute gamers and food! https://twitter.com/lilsusie
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