EPTIf there was a chance in hell of being successful at Starcraft I'd say do it without even worrying about your age, but it's honestly an unattainable goal. Not that Ret has to take it in any way but my advice would be to put your energy into winning TSL2, enjoy that money and pursue another goal in the interim and try out SC2 where there might actually be the potential achieve success, which there just isn't in SC
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Canada5847 Posts
If there was a chance in hell of being successful at Starcraft I'd say do it without even worrying about your age, but it's honestly an unattainable goal. Not that Ret has to take it in any way but my advice would be to put your energy into winning TSL2, enjoy that money and pursue another goal in the interim and try out SC2 where there might actually be the potential achieve success, which there just isn't in SC | ||
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StalkerSC
Canada378 Posts
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chongu
Malaysia2593 Posts
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a11
Germany303 Posts
On December 28 2009 23:36 UlyssesPro wrote: I don't mean to be picky, but I don't think this piece qualifies as an essay. Usually an essay takes the reader on a "journey towards understanding", that is, it helps us follow the path the author took to come to a greater understanding of whatever it is he or she is writing about. This piece carries little to no evidence of the author's assumptions about either Korean culture or Korean sociology and seems highly generalize. For Example "Koreans are fucking xenophobic as fuck. They are not happy go lucky to foreigners at all " Could we not say the exact same about Americans? Consider recent American attitude toward Hispanic immigrants / laborers etc. Mainstream news would have us believe they are stealing jobs and running drugs, both of which are simply 100 percent overgeneralized and oversimplified. I hope TL reconsiders what it chooses to feature on the homepage in the future. I just want to point out, it wasn't Rekrul who called it an essay. | ||
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AureS
France108 Posts
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iG.SwOrD
Bulgaria183 Posts
On December 28 2009 23:26 AstraBoy wrote: lol come on the guy is 24!!!! he must be looking for a GF and get married, have his own house, a profession, etc not trying to be pro at a video game OMFG O_O 24 !!!!! 24 is a lot. He should forget his unrealistic teen dreams because they will never happen , not in this life. Koreans will never open for any foreigner , they will never accept him as a player from their own. He should really ask himself what he wants to achieve with his life. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On December 28 2009 06:45 Chill wrote: Agreed on every point. Actually, even though it's public knowledge, I never knew how progaming actually worked until I was in Korea. You don't have a life. You follow their schedule, day in, day out, for 16 hours a day, 7 days a week. It's not exciting to live in Korea because you can't fucking talk to anyone because they don't speak English, you don't have time to learn Korean, and you don't have time to actually step outside and see any of Seoul. If anything, Idra deserves ridiculous amounts of credit for doing what he's done for so long. I know I wouldn't last 3 days. I'm completely serious. But isn't that the same thing idrA did when he was in US? He just played all day or am I wrong? That is just what I hear and it seems logical to me.. Anyway, what's going on with ret? How is it his fault that the koreans don't want to play him, they don't think they should waste their time playing him because they are better yet they want to play REAL pros and learn from them... just doesn't make sense to me how they think. I want to get better so ima play better people but I dont want to give a worse player that same chance... Just stupid. One last thing, how the hell DID IdrA get on CJ, I never heard that story. And for people who think he can put in a good word for ret and get him over to CJ rek said it perfectly, "they don't give a fuck what idra thinks." | ||
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Tropics
United Kingdom1132 Posts
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city42
1656 Posts
On December 29 2009 01:47 Tropics wrote: Idra got on CJ because he took stork to the late late game in a TvP at either blizzcon or WWI, I can't remember. It was a really nice long macro game. CJ coaches took interest in him because of that, or at least that was what was circulated here. Idra won a tournament, open only to North American players, and the prize was to become a progamer. edit: Actually, I think you were saying that CJ took him from his old team (estro I think?) because of that performance vs. stork. That may well be the case. | ||
Chill
Calgary25989 Posts
On December 29 2009 01:37 GreEny K wrote: But isn't that the same thing idrA did when he was in US? He just played all day or am I wrong? That is just what I hear and it seems logical to me.. He also went to school, had family to talk to, familiar food, language and culture, had freedom to stop if he wanted, and slept in his own bed. Believe yourself to be as mentally tough as you want, that shit adds up. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
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MuscLe
United States29 Posts
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Sharp-eYe
Canada642 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On December 29 2009 01:52 Chill wrote: He also went to school, had family to talk to, familiar food, language and culture, had freedom to stop if he wanted, and slept in his own bed. Believe yourself to be as mentally tough as you want, that shit adds up. You got a point there, but he was willing to give it up (obviously), was he aware of what it would be like? | ||
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On December 28 2009 23:26 AstraBoy wrote: lol come on the guy is 24!!!! he must be looking for a GF and get married, have his own house, a profession, etc not trying to be pro at a video game OMFG O_O 24 !!!!! Every person got his own dream and it would not stop at any age. I am happy he tried it out and could make a clean end when his time comes. He never will question himself "what if?" Jos is a great person and he will make his way whenever he wants and hey you could make kids until you are 80 and if you have trouble just use Viagra :D | ||
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YPang
United States4024 Posts
On December 28 2009 12:54 toopham wrote: All you guys are fuking bandwagon jumpers. Rekrul post something bad about estro and the koreans and about ret and you all agree. When I posted something bad about estro and how badly they treated ret and how Estro coaching suck balls, motherfuckers tell me I should "blog it" or that I am very wrong and shouldn't be saying those things against Estro because they've done so much for foreigners. NeverGG even tell me to watch what I say because Estro coaches lurk this forum. And then I get my thread closed because I am a nobody making a post. It seems like the only way you can make a thread around here is if you're well known. it's just fucking sad. i'd have to agree with toopham | ||
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gjg.instinct
144 Posts
Highly skeptical of the idea of Koreans being "xenophobic". Although I have never been there, I have always known Koreans to be well mannered and helpful online, and always eager to converse if you give them a chance to use their English. In my head I can name a few Koreans who have gone out of their way, with no benefit for themselves, to help me practice / learn strategies. A dude I played with even e-mailed me from the military to see how I was doing. | ||
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On December 29 2009 02:12 GreEny K wrote: You got a point there, but he was willing to give it up (obviously), was he aware of what it would be like? I dunno if he know exactly what comes but i think its exactly the part of Idra ppl hate that makes him successfull there, he is a stubborn streight forward guy with a big ego. "Don´t care what ppl think about me, i do what i want" | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
Rofl, why would it matter that eSTRO coaches lurk the forum? Is saying something bad about them going to get me shot or banned? Lol... If anything, this provokes me to insult them just to see what they say... | ||
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Chill
Calgary25989 Posts
On December 29 2009 02:12 GreEny K wrote: You got a point there, but he was willing to give it up (obviously), was he aware of what it would be like? What is your point? He knew what he was getting into so he deserves no credit? I don't even see what you are driving at. I said he is doing what no one else could or can. And for that he deserves an incredible amount of respect. | ||
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