I do appreciate the names of the different genres though. They're pretty funny. But never have such wildly different sounding genres sounded identical to me :o
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
I do appreciate the names of the different genres though. They're pretty funny. But never have such wildly different sounding genres sounded identical to me :o | ||
Rostam
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FragKrag
United States11539 Posts
On May 21 2009 13:25 Piy wrote: Lol, I hate metal music so much. Just so much distressing noise :p but to each their own I guess. I do appreciate the names of the different genres though. They're pretty funny. But never have such wildly different sounding genres sounded identical to me :o Grow some ears then. By the way, why are there so many goddamn melodeath fans on TL | ||
PH
United States6173 Posts
On May 21 2009 10:52 Aegraen wrote: Actually a lot of metal is heavily influenced by classical composition, especially black metal and symphonic styles. It takes a finely tuned ear, and an appreciation for neo-classical and classical musicianship, composition, etc. The problem with the general population, is they hear 'growl' or 'scream' and immediately think, they don't know what they're doing, or the music is too fast, or changes tempo too much, isn't as poppy catchy so they don't like it, but take it from me, a pianist and keyboardist, metal is the most diverse and most talented pool of musicians. I think it's an insult to compare symphonic metal (in any genre, be it black, death, gothic, melodic, whatever) to real classical music. There is a HUGE gap between orchestral arrangements in metal and actual classical music. I agree with you everywhere else, though. Metal really does have some of the best technical musicians in the world (though not all, not by a long shot), and when you count all the subgenres it has (from heavy metal to nu metal to tech death to progressive), you really do have the most diverse genre out there, I think. But still...a classical ear probably won't find anything noteworthy in metal. I grew up in a classical family listening to classical music until around five years ago when I got into metal. They're worlds apart, even in composition. On May 21 2009 13:09 Aegraen wrote: Japanese are the shit ![]() They have some crazy guitarists. Wow...they're actually really good. Thanks. On May 21 2009 13:14 FragKrag wrote: I'm not a fan of regular black metal either, but stuff like Mork Gryning or stuff like Varathron gets me. The Tressrising of Nyarlathotep is one of my favorite songs of all time. Blood Stain Child is a blood stain. Boring riffs, and that shitty melody constantly playing. "look at us, we incorporate more keyboard!!!!" Then again, I'm more of a Thrash/Death guy. But @ above, try out Fates Warning, Watch Tower, and Atheist. Atheist is a much better prog death (imo) than Opeth. Watch Tower and Fates Warning are thrashier and have more of an edge than Dream Theater. Yesplz, try power metal, or you could read the thread. I'll check those black metal bands out. I haven't listened to Atheist or Watch Tower, and haven't gotten around to trying out Fates Warning even though they've been sitting on my "list of music to try out" list forever...lol. On May 21 2009 13:34 FragKrag wrote: Grow some ears then. By the way, why are there so many goddamn melodeath fans on TL If you can wade through the oceans of shit, there are a lot of good melodeath albums. Get over it. It's difficult to objectively condemn any band, much less an entire genre. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
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Carnation[NeoN]
United States26 Posts
How can there be a metal thread without the mention of Anaal Nathrakh Or Lykathea Aflame D; | ||
Aegraen
United States1225 Posts
On May 21 2009 13:32 Rostam wrote: I know these guys probably won't fit a lot of people's tastes but they're not that well known and maybe someone will like them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsnNrGkHraM Known them since they came out ![]() Bjorn Speed sings for them. | ||
Aegraen
United States1225 Posts
On May 21 2009 13:37 PH wrote: I think it's an insult to compare symphonic metal (in any genre, be it black, death, gothic, melodic, whatever) to real classical music. There is a HUGE gap between orchestral arrangements in metal and actual classical music. I agree with you everywhere else, though. Metal really does have some of the best technical musicians in the world (though not all, not by a long shot), and when you count all the subgenres it has (from heavy metal to nu metal to tech death to progressive), you really do have the most diverse genre out there, I think. But still...a classical ear probably won't find anything noteworthy in metal. I grew up in a classical family listening to classical music until around five years ago when I got into metal. They're worlds apart, even in composition. Wow...they're actually really good. Thanks. I'll check those black metal bands out. I haven't listened to Atheist or Watch Tower, and haven't gotten around to trying out Fates Warning even though they've been sitting on my "list of music to try out" list forever...lol. If you can wade through the oceans of shit, there are a lot of good melodeath albums. Get over it. It's difficult to objectively condemn any band, much less an entire genre. Hehe thanks. I would disagree about classical etc. Listen to this: | ||
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Aegraen
United States1225 Posts
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Aegraen
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FragKrag
United States11539 Posts
On May 21 2009 14:03 Aegraen wrote: Black metal was born out of classical composition. It's a staple part of composition of the genre. black metal was born out of thrash metal | ||
Aegraen
United States1225 Posts
Emperor had nothing in common with thrash. Emperor started black metal. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11539 Posts
On May 21 2009 14:12 Aegraen wrote: Emperor had nothing in common with thrash. Emperor started black metal. lol. Celtic Frost? Mercyful Fate? | ||
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Aegraen
United States1225 Posts
On May 21 2009 14:18 FragKrag wrote: Also, you're retarded if Emperor started much other than symphonic black metal. Immortal, Dark Throne, and Satyricon were doing their stuff at least 1 or 2 years before Emperor. Ok, name me one other subgenre that incorporates classical composition such as that found in black? What do you think of Tvangeste? | ||
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FragKrag
United States11539 Posts
On May 21 2009 14:20 Aegraen wrote: Ok, name me one other subgenre that incorporates classical composition such as that found in black? What do you think of Tvangeste? It's not about classical compositions. You said Emperor started black metal, which is obviously a misinformed statement on your part. I don't listen to black metal for the most part. | ||
Aegraen
United States1225 Posts
On May 21 2009 14:22 FragKrag wrote: It's not about classical compositions. You said Emperor started black metal, which is obviously a misinformed statement on your part. I don't listen to black metal for the most part. Hmmm. I mostly listen to symphonic black, not the 'kvlt' stuff, production sucks too bad for my taste. What do you think of this? | ||
[Fin]Vittu
Canada507 Posts
![]() that's just blasphemy: ![]() ps: i dont think emperor started black metal, it was venom, celtic frost and bathory. | ||
VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
Schandmaul-Geisterschiff In Extremo - Poc Vocem: I would be very interested to know, does anyone here knows that kind of music better and could show me some more? All I know is like Rammstein and that's it ![]() | ||
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