Lets get HEAVY - Page 4

On May 21 2009 10:52 Aegraen wrote:
Actually a lot of metal is heavily influenced by classical composition, especially black metal and symphonic styles. It takes a finely tuned ear, and an appreciation for neo-classical and classical musicianship, composition, etc.

The problem with the general population, is they hear 'growl' or 'scream' and immediately think, they don't know what they're doing, or the music is too fast, or changes tempo too much, isn't as poppy catchy so they don't like it, but take it from me, a pianist and keyboardist, metal is the most diverse and most talented pool of musicians.

On May 21 2009 13:09 Aegraen wrote:
Japanese are the shit (Blood Stain Child is JP)



They have some crazy guitarists.

On May 21 2009 13:14 FragKrag wrote:
I'm not a fan of regular black metal either, but stuff like Mork Gryning or stuff like Varathron gets me. The Tressrising of Nyarlathotep is one of my favorite songs of all time.

Blood Stain Child is a blood stain. Boring riffs, and that shitty melody constantly playing. "look at us, we incorporate more keyboard!!!!"

Then again, I'm more of a Thrash/Death guy.

But @ above, try out Fates Warning, Watch Tower, and Atheist.

Atheist is a much better prog death (imo) than Opeth. Watch Tower and Fates Warning are thrashier and have more of an edge than Dream Theater.

Yesplz, try power metal, or you could read the thread.

On May 21 2009 13:34 FragKrag wrote:


Grow some ears then.

By the way, why are there so many goddamn melodeath fans on TL

On May 21 2009 13:32 Rostam wrote:
I know these guys probably won't fit a lot of people's tastes but they're not that well known and maybe someone will like them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsnNrGkHraM

On May 21 2009 13:37 PH wrote:

I think it's an insult to compare symphonic metal (in any genre, be it black, death, gothic, melodic, whatever) to real classical music. There is a HUGE gap between orchestral arrangements in metal and actual classical music.

I agree with you everywhere else, though. Metal really does have some of the best technical musicians in the world (though not all, not by a long shot), and when you count all the subgenres it has (from heavy metal to nu metal to tech death to progressive), you really do have the most diverse genre out there, I think.

But still...a classical ear probably won't find anything noteworthy in metal. I grew up in a classical family listening to classical music until around five years ago when I got into metal. They're worlds apart, even in composition.


Wow...they're actually really good. Thanks.


I'll check those black metal bands out.

I haven't listened to Atheist or Watch Tower, and haven't gotten around to trying out Fates Warning even though they've been sitting on my "list of music to try out" list forever...lol.


If you can wade through the oceans of shit, there are a lot of good melodeath albums. Get over it. It's difficult to objectively condemn any band, much less an entire genre.

On May 21 2009 14:10 FragKrag wrote:


black metal was born out of thrash metal

On May 21 2009 14:18 FragKrag wrote:
Also, you're retarded if Emperor started much other than symphonic black metal. Immortal, Dark Throne, and Satyricon were doing their stuff at least 1 or 2 years before Emperor.

On May 21 2009 14:22 FragKrag wrote:


It's not about classical compositions. You said Emperor started black metal, which is obviously a misinformed statement on your part.

I don't listen to black metal for the most part.