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Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Korea (South)494 Posts
August 07 2013 05:44 GMT
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As some of you may know, when I moved here to Korea last summer to study Korean I wasn’t really a big broodwar fan. Although I always knew broodwar was big in Korea, I’ve still to this day probably watched more pro counter-strike broadcasts from Korea than broodwar, namely thanks to WEG. I started browsing TL back in 2010 due to getting into SC2, and over time I saw the userbase grow immensely. Even though this growth has helped TL grow from what I understand was a rather small community website into an esports powerhouse, it seemed as if the very foundation TL was built upon was withering away as a result. I had a laptop lying around gathering dust that I started restreaming afreeca on mid-september last year to see if I could help bring some much needed broodwar content to an old broodwar website. For the first 2-3 weeks I was mostly doing it for fun in the spare time I had, mostly only restreaming afreeca when I was watching it myself to improve my Korean listening skills.

After hearing about sospa and Sonic, the remaining bastion of (semi)pro broodwar in Korea, I started streaming from my main computer as well - dual-streaming the early rounds of SSL7. With the overwhelming support I received doing that I decided to ask if anyone would be interested in helping out with a 24/7 broodwar project, outlining my plan on the TL broodwar forum. The stream was brought online on the 7th of October last year. It was set up primarily for the TL community, so it was fitting that it was only made possible by the TL community. Even with the influx of viewers from other sources, the TL users still make up the overwhelming majority of the moderator-group.
This was the setup for a while until I decided to move the laptop into the living room:

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We’ve come a long way since then; I would say the biggest change happened right after Christmas. I brought some computer parts with me from Norway in order to set up a proper streaming computer. The jump in quality was immense, though I am 8 months later still looking for ways to improve the stream. We had a big surge in viewers late December/early January thanks to a certain TL player named Sea retiring from SC2 and starting up his own afreeca stream. These first 4 months were pretty crazy, but we did manage to keep the downtime to a minimum thanks to a hard working moderator team. Anyone looking for specific statistics can take a look at my previous blog.

Right after I wrote my previous blog I started getting busy with school. I had been spending more time on the stream than studying for the first month of level 4 (10 weeks per level), meaning I had pretty much zero time to manage the stream in February in order to catch up before the final exams. Between intensive studying and my girlfriend I barely had time to even add new moderators. The downtime increased and the viewership numbers went down this month, something that I still feel sorry for. The overwhelming amount of commercials for heart of the swarm also probably contributed to a renewed sc2 interest (and consequent decline in broodwar interest) for a lot of old broodwar fans that were initially disappointed with wings of liberty.

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In the middle of February Sonic announced the SSL8 with a preliminary ranking tournament for the group stage ceremony. Both the ranking tournament and group stage ceremony increased viewership somewhat, but as is usually the problem with such events – a lot of the amateur players had no first person views available. And what was worse, Sonic announced that the entire SSL8 would be played offline. Now that’s not to say I’m in any way opposed to this; running the entire league offline makes it all seem a lot more professional and serious. That said, the intimate first person views from afreeca were what made snipe2 popular in the first place. The SSL7 had online stages that gave snipe2 the jumpstart it needed when we got started last year; SSL8 would in essence drive viewers away (to snipealot3, the Chinese restream and finally the official TL stream) on gamenight. In spite of this, the increased exposure broodwar got from SSL8 most probably helped increase the viewership in March.

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Ever since we started restreaming Sonic during the early rounds of SSL7, there has been much debate regarding the “ratio issue”. Should Sonic be restreamed in his afreeca-broadcasted 16 resolution, or should the aspect ratio be changed to 4:3 for the foreign viewers? Although we did go a bit back and forth in the beginning we did end up settling on the 16 resolution. However as we were still receiving complaints about this we decided to set up snipe2 to restream Sonic in 4:3 on SSL nights. This was a huge success and helped us mitigate the decline going into April.

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All throughout March I had been trying to find some spare time to go watch the SSL in person. As the new semester had just started, I finally found the time to go visit the shinbalfarm early April. It was a blast as I got to meet a couple of pretty suave dudes.

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I showed up at shinbalfarm right before the broadcast, something that probably made Sonic a tad stressed as he felt the need to personally greet me. He was understandably busy for most of the broadcast, but that just gave me the opportunity to talk to the other broodwar personalities there. After the matches Sonic invited me for a late dinner with him, Kim Carrier, larva and a few of the other guys behind the ssl8. We mostly just talked about video games and video game culture in Korea - Kim Carrier seemed slightly disappointed that I didn’t enjoy neither playing nor watching league of legends. After dinner Sonic insisted on paying for my cab fare as the subways were closed.

Towards the end of April / Beginning of May I started getting busy again with school, so I had no opportunity to return to shinbalfarm for the rest of SSL8. Despite reaching a milestone of 2 million views, the numbers were starting to decline. Luckily we managed to recruit some more moderators to maintain the uptime going into May.

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In May we can see pretty big spikes on Sonic broadcast nights, namely a KOTH on the 10th and the SSL8 Semifinals on the 11th. Another spike happened towards the end of the month due to Sonic deciding to run an SRT between the SSL8 Semis and the Grand Final. However with summer approaching I started getting worried about power consumption. As my electricity cost is tiered my bill reached $500/month in July and August of last year, so with forecasts of extreme heat and spiking electricity costs I started getting worried that having 2 computers running 24/7 would have an impact on my utility bill. After doing some calculations I came to the conclusion that it would probably not exceed $200 in total over the 4 summer months (June-September), but that was still a rather large sum for me to pay out of pocket. The donation drive in January to cover computer parts for the new streaming computer was pretty successful, so I decided to open up for donations again after asking if it was okay on the TL forums. Thanks to the generous broodwar community this amount was covered in just a few weeks.

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June started with a bang – not just figuratively as the PSU on snipealot2 got fried right at the beginning of the SSL8 grand finals broadcast. I was on my computer making sure snipealot3 was running correctly when my girlfriend screamed from the living room that something was burning. I figured I had no time to fix it in time for the broadcast that had just started, so I simply set up my main computer as a restream to snipealot2. Despite this minor drawback, snipealot2 quickly set a new concurrent viewer record at 962 viewers. A legend match with Yellow and Reach, no mirrors, a ton of kpop – with hours upon hours of entertainment it was almost to be expected. Still, between the official TL cast, the Chinese cast and snipealot3 broadcasting the Korean cast, I was surprised to see the numbers go that high.

I managed to get snipealot2 running again properly the next day, but it was prone to crashes whenever the power fluctuated. As you can see on the graph got pretty bad and drove down numbers in the days following the ssl8 finals. I was also worried for the rest of the month because electricity in Seoul during summer isn’t exactly stable, and I was leaving for a 2 week vacation to Norway on the 8th.

During my vacation two major events happened. The first being snipealot2 setting a new concurrent viewer record at a staggering 1118 on the 16th. The second was the streaming computer having a complete crash on the 21st. Some smart moderators brought the snipe3 laptop online and advertised for that stream in the snipe2 chat though, and when I got online I switched the streamkey on the laptop to snipealot2. This helped bring some viewers back but going back to the laptop stream quality after 6 months was horrendous. I arrived back in Korea a few days later and managed to get the computer running again, bringing everything back to normal. Sonic decided on the midst of all this to do host another ranking tournament, giving the numbers a decent boost moving into July.

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As is always the case during the summer months, people tend to spend less time in front of their computers. This led to a decline in both viewers and active moderators. After finishing up SRT14 on the 4th, Sonic almost immediately announced SRT15 with a pretty big sponsor (iStarPC Mall). With a prize pool that rivals the earlier SSLs, the SRT helped keep the numbers at least on par with June. Although the SRT15 Ro32 groups were pretty one-sided and lacking in first person views, the Ro16 from the 23rd to 26th and the Ro8 on the final two days of the month both contributed to a nice increase in viewer hours.

Although unrelated to the stream, I should mention that we managed to facilitate a showmatch between the TLS2 finalists and the popular ex. T8 Progamer 진영화 aka Movie. He agreed to play the showmatch simply to help out TL and reach out to the foreign community, but after discussing it with the TL bw staff and asking the community we decided to donate $20 out of the stream revenue to Movie for his efforts. Click here for a highlight of the donation. The donation wasn’t huge, but Movie did seem to appreciate it.

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The above picture shows the monthly graph for hours watched and video plays from February – July. Although the amount of video plays stagnated and declined, the amount of viewer hours actually increased slightly. Thus we can deduce that in spite of falling total viewers, the amount of regulars putting in more hours watching is increasing. With more regulars and the end of summer vacations in August/September, the viewer count should go up somewhat in the coming months.

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By separating the video plays by country we do see some interesting statistics. As expected the two big nations are China and the United States. Together they account for almost half of the views on any given day. There are a lot of other nations I haven’t listed that are just below the 5000-mark, Vietnam, France, Peru, Romania, the UK, Denmark and Ukraine just to name a few.

Since day one people have been complaining about the amount of Chinese being spoken in the chat. If we look at the Chinese video plays in relation to the total video plays, how will that look?

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As you can see, there has been a steady increase in Chinese viewers since February. The delayed release of HotS in China might have contributed to this. With HotS being released in China mid-july, we might be seeing a decrease again in the coming months. Still, for as long as twitch is accessible through the great firewall of china, the Chinese will probably account for a lot of the viewers on snipe2. The chat will always be multi-lingual, so if people want more English they will simply have to start participating in the chat more.

Another common complaint ever since we got the twitch partnership has been the amount of ads on stream. Before twitch overhauled the system you would click the commercial break button and it would run a 30 second ad segment, then you would have to click it again for another 30 seconds etc. You could click this button as much as you want, leading to a few streamers abusing the system. A slightly intoxicated CellaWerra spamming the button over and over for hours at the request of his viewers - “MORE ADS” - comes to mind. The new system twitch introduced in February made it possible to select the duration of a commercial ad break – up to a total of 3 minutes – however it was now impossible to run a break more often than every 8 minutes. As we have no way of knowing how fast a player will get into a new game, this made things a lot harder for the moderators on snipealot2. After some trial and error however, we ended up with a system that is honestly pretty good. For the everyday restreams we do 60second breaks after games, and during Sonic events we do 120-150second breaks depending on the type of event. This works pretty well, although viewers sometimes miss the worker-split at the start of games. The best thing about this new system is that twitch now tracks the amount of seconds spent in commercial breaks. This lets us do cool things like this:

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This graph shows the average amount seconds per hour spent in running commercials. This doesn’t mean that anyone watching the stream for 1 hour will get exactly 84 seconds of ads as this varies throughout the day. Someone watching between 6PM and midnight KST will probably watch more ads than someone watching between 6AM and noon KST. On the other hand, a moderator running a 2 minute ad break does not mean you will get 2 minutes of ads during that break. Depending on where you are from and how many ads twitch manages to sell in your area, you might get: no ads at all, the full 2 minutes or more likely - something in between. The average seconds per hour does however give us a pretty good idea for how many ads a regular viewer gets. A viewer watching 10 hours of snipealot2 would be exposed to an average maximum of 14 minutes of ads. If you compare this to 3 hours of ads per 10 hours watching television in the united states, this doesn’t seem like such a bad deal.

In the months ahead there are a few things that I will have to sort out. I’ll be moving back to Norway around mid-December with my girlfriend to live there for at least 1 year. All the personal issues that need to be sorted aside, this does mean that I probably won’t be able to manage snipealot2 after Christmas – at least not directly. I’ll be actively looking for alternative hosting, but I cannot promise anything. If I do end up having to shut everything down here in Korea I’ll be looking for a way to do the exact same thing from Norway. The last time I was there only the commercials posed a problem when I tried watching afreeca streams.

No matter what the future may bring, the past 10 months have been amazing. Thanks to the TL broodwar community, the TL broodwar staff, the amazing moderator team and last but not least Sonic and his afreeca posse, broodwar has managed to survive – both in Korea and abroad. Between TLS, SRT, SSL and the massive amount of content being produced on both afreeca and on twitch, things are only looking bright for the future.

There will be no final chapter for broodwar.

The stream heroes:
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Mokegaye, ty152, Cecilsunkure, Harmtaro, Rlentless, Nekotrap, nnspd, stratosj, skmetaly, Iplaythings, Fold, Procyonarc, JaValeMcgeee, chnama, vOddySC, Komre_cl, Comradexkcd, function1983, Kristofferag, GasMaskSociety, RedW4rr10r, Rekzr, Seroqt, Hellokritty, Epoxide, ImmortalToss, Mf_bakuryu, bioboyAT, Aeghrur, Rui_xm

The players we all love to watch:
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Killer, Pusan, Anytime, Mong, HiyA, Sky, Zergman, minus)eagle, Sexy, Beast, Icarus, Cola, Perfectman, Tyson, StarCue, minus)Zelot, Movie, Shuttle, by.hero, kkong_v_, Liquid’Sea, Nada, Jat.lotte, Larva, Shinee, Perry, KT.MGW)Terran, Lazy, Hint, He)Jy, By.Spire, Sonkwon, Onicle, Horang2, union’feat, sSak, Notice, Rapsodytoss, Air, Olympus, envy.Bisu, The Rock, NoraJo, Autumn, nto’smile, Best, Dove, Brave


And finally, the best stargirl broodwar has ever seen:

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itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9152 Posts
August 07 2013 05:48 GMT
#2
thank you for all that you do for the brood war community
Photographer"nosotros estamos backamos" - setsuko
salito
Profile Joined May 2010
1647 Posts
August 07 2013 06:17 GMT
#3
Thanks for your dedication. A 24 hour Korean BW stream was fantasy not so long ago.
Nature moves in the shortest way possible.
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
August 07 2013 07:07 GMT
#4
Thank you snipealot, amazing work you do, and thank you to the mods and all your fine work too. And of course thanks to the players and Sonic and co.!
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
August 07 2013 07:58 GMT
#5
Thanks for all you've done. It's amazing to have snipealot as a resource for korean amateur BW, and I'll certainly be tuning even more often once september hits. ^^
darkness overpowering
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
August 07 2013 08:48 GMT
#6
Thank you so much snipealot.
ॐ
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 07 2013 08:50 GMT
#7
As usual, thank you for doing what you're doing. The viewer count sorta speaks for itself, a lot of people have come to rely on you for their daily entertainment. Christmas is still some time away so there's plenty of time to figure out how to handle that.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
August 07 2013 09:09 GMT
#8
Thanks for what you do man.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9489 Posts
August 07 2013 09:29 GMT
#9
Thank you so much snipe, you've been a great instrument in keeping the BW scene alive. Hopefully it continues for many more years!

Spotlighted.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Dane S
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia84 Posts
August 07 2013 09:49 GMT
#10
Thanks for your effort mate
Uglymutt
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia57 Posts
August 07 2013 09:57 GMT
#11
Thanks for all you have done Snipe. Having your stream has been a fantastic way to easily keep track of the Afreeca broodwar scene.
Muff2n
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom250 Posts
August 07 2013 10:20 GMT
#12
I had no idea reading about stream numbers could be so intersting. Thank you for all your effort.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 10:57:23
August 07 2013 10:56 GMT
#13
You are amazing!!!
짱이다!
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N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
August 07 2013 11:00 GMT
#14
I can't say thanks enough
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
August 07 2013 11:20 GMT
#15
I really appreciate what you are doing!
Dirtyharry
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany171 Posts
August 07 2013 11:21 GMT
#16
Thank you Snipe!
I was in Ravenholm
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
August 07 2013 11:55 GMT
#17
This guy's pretty cool.
chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
August 07 2013 12:32 GMT
#18
You're awesome snipealot, thank you so much.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
August 07 2013 12:34 GMT
#19
Wow, awesome. :O
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5411 Posts
August 07 2013 13:16 GMT
#20
Brood war is such a beautiful game to watch... Thanks for your stream.
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
August 07 2013 13:17 GMT
#21
appreciate it snipealot, you've done a great thing
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 07 2013 13:52 GMT
#22
Thank you very much; 3 million views are astounding! Also props to TL community for all the supports offered, some I haven't been aware of, like donation drives.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 07 2013 14:11 GMT
#23
Great writeup! Amazing work that you've done snipealot. Your stream is one of the best things to happen to TL in the last year and hope you guys can keep it up for the community. Best of luck in your studies!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19208 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 14:54:15
August 07 2013 14:53 GMT
#24
I saw your stream at 200 views away and got really giddy. This is so awesome. I wonder if I streamed only Bisu if I could accomplish this too.

This smiley is for you snipealot:
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24579 Posts
August 07 2013 14:53 GMT
#25
Thanks for your work!
-Dustin-
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States718 Posts
August 07 2013 15:34 GMT
#26
Thanks a ton I spend more time watching your stream than sc2 streams. <3
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 07 2013 15:40 GMT
#27
You're a hero dude. A real one.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1965 Posts
August 07 2013 15:54 GMT
#28
Thanks!
Total Annihilation Zero
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 16:01:29
August 07 2013 15:58 GMT
#29
This guy deserves two stars. The great thing about the BW community is there is always someone who will step it up.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14456 Posts
August 07 2013 16:07 GMT
#30
Thanks you for all, I don't understand anything at this game but I love the first person view.
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a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
August 07 2013 16:18 GMT
#31
Great blog, and great effort to keep the stream ongoing <3!
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moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1542 Posts
August 07 2013 17:06 GMT
#32
Thanks for all your hard work snipealot and congratulations on 3,000,000 views.
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
August 07 2013 17:17 GMT
#33
The fact that I can almost always tune in to a BW match when i'm on my computer is something unbelievably amazing, and largely thanks to this hero of heroes.
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Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
August 07 2013 18:08 GMT
#34
You are the biggest hero, thanks for all the hard work.
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11321 Posts
August 07 2013 18:16 GMT
#35
So amazing that you do this! Long live BW!
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
August 07 2013 19:08 GMT
#36
You are the sole reason we can even watch SOSPA events. Thank you so so much.
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Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
August 07 2013 19:25 GMT
#37
<3 thanks for all your work.
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
August 07 2013 19:32 GMT
#38
Thank you.
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Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
August 07 2013 19:51 GMT
#39
Thank you, thank you thank you thank you.

A true hero of the people <3
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CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
August 07 2013 20:07 GMT
#40
I cant tell you how grateful I'am for your stream. It has just become something you can count on to always be there, sometimes I click on it just to kinda see whats on, without really planning to watch and then before you know it one or two hours have passed. Thank you for the countless of hours of entertainment you delivered to our homes.
BW4LIFE
jormal1ty
Profile Joined November 2011
Finland72 Posts
August 07 2013 20:28 GMT
#41
It has been pretty awesome to watch sospa stuff at snipealot3.
Maybe teamliquid can donate a liquid cooled pc for streaming?
stream warrior
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
August 07 2013 20:40 GMT
#42
true hero !

also: LOL LARVAEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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panzercrusher
Profile Joined April 2013
Poland457 Posts
August 07 2013 21:37 GMT
#43
Big thanks for all your work!
I never asked for this
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
August 07 2013 22:00 GMT
#44
I think the stream favorite is Larva

A lot of the Chinese viewers really enjoy Hiya, and a lot enjoy Mong too, but Larva is just so endearing.
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
August 07 2013 22:14 GMT
#45
Thanks for all the work, man. You are awesome and so it is BW. (=
JD is BONJWA!
mOojc
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia460 Posts
August 07 2013 23:18 GMT
#46
I am so thankful for the 24/7 stream you provide or else I would have absolutely no BW to watch. You are legend.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10340 Posts
August 08 2013 02:19 GMT
#47
You've done so much, thank you!
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
August 08 2013 02:27 GMT
#48
You are amazing <3
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 08 2013 07:20 GMT
#49
Damn that list of moderators is so long

I remember when it was just me and moke and I thought I thunmled changing the stream and it wasn't even my fault since xsplit or something didn't work as it was supposed to

Thanks alot alot alot for doing this yo, I don't say that enough
In the woods, there lurks..
Scrutinizer
Profile Joined April 2011
170 Posts
August 08 2013 08:36 GMT
#50
Thanks!
GlacialCosmology
Profile Joined May 2013
7 Posts
August 08 2013 08:48 GMT
#51
OP is a hero. Thank you!
fusefuse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Estonia4644 Posts
August 08 2013 11:49 GMT
#52
you sir are a true community hero!
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jarod
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania766 Posts
August 08 2013 13:21 GMT
#53
Broodwar was/is an awesome game. Maybe the best game I've played. It is nice to see that is still not died due to some incredible people. But on the other hand I cannot understand why you guys don't move further to sc2. Changing is a natural thing.. SC2 was released and it is good. Balance wise the gap is almost closed, streaming posibilities are much better then in bw.
Anyhow.. if you love doing this, keep up, you are doing an amazing job.
Maru | Life | herO
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3438 Posts
August 08 2013 14:27 GMT
#54
^ Don't tell me what to do!
On a more serious note why don't you ask yourself why ppl do not move on to Window 8 from Win 7 ?
PUPATREE
Profile Joined August 2009
340 Posts
August 08 2013 14:30 GMT
#55
So I suck at broodwar. I beat myself up over the game, and I never seem to improve. A few years ago, I discovered that by watching streams, I could still experience the game that I hold in such high regard without the crushing stress. There was a long period of time where with pretty much every waking moment I had, I'd be on broodwar streams. Fucking always. A constant presence in every single chat. You can imagine how excited I was when your stream began to take off.

I'm inconsistent as fuck with my habits, and people and things just come and go. But your stream's always there. It's one of the few reliably good parts of my life. Pretty much any time I'm down, bored, or in one of those moods, I know that I can count on some high level bw. I feel a little silly saying this - but I somehow doubt there are other viewers that enjoy and rely on your stream as much as I do.

It's funny - even though I just passively watch (vs treating every game like a rep), I think your stream has improved my play. Take this iccup season, where I hadn't been doing my usual things to improve. I hadn't been playing at all, I lost all my practice partners other than based Rlentless, I didn't constantly bombard gosu players with questions, and I didn't study any reps or vods. But to my surprise, I hit C, didn't struggle at all compared to the only other time I managed to do it, and I didn't even rely on zvz, map abuse, or cheesy play for easy points. How? From constantly being exposed to good BW. I still have some ridiculous dreams of becoming a gosu at broodwar, and though watching alone won't take me there, it seems that your stream has pushed me forward towards that goal.

The other things you do to keep things running - how you appoint mods, how you oversee everything, forwarding stream revenue to sonic and such - it's all beyond me. I remember the stream being down one time, and I jokingly wanted to rush into your stream thread to be part of the angry mob, but then I got stopped. You had already posted in your thread and explained the situation, along with letting us know how long we'd have to wait and all that. That dedication and on-top-of-everything-ness really put into perspective just how consistent your stream had been and would continue to be. Your mod team is amazing too, and I take their work for granted. They're ALWAYS there, they're always watching over the stream, they're always looking out for who else is streaming, and they'll even ask viewers which streams they'd prefer. It's fucking nuts.

I'm deeply grateful for what you've done. You had great vision in starting this project, and it's become something real for me. thx meng
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 08 2013 15:06 GMT
#56
After watching the stream for a while I sort of got to thinking I ought to start playing again.

Can't believe ICCUP hasn't implemented automated matchmaking yet.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
August 08 2013 15:31 GMT
#57
Every time I'm in the mood to watch Brood War, snipealot is there. Without exception.
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
August 08 2013 18:03 GMT
#58
oh wait, you're a real person?!
starleague forever
Rainling
Profile Joined June 2011
United States456 Posts
August 08 2013 18:53 GMT
#59
snipealot you're the best!
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9489 Posts
August 08 2013 21:11 GMT
#60
On August 08 2013 22:21 jarod wrote:
Broodwar was/is an awesome game. Maybe the best game I've played. It is nice to see that is still not died due to some incredible people. But on the other hand I cannot understand why you guys don't move further to sc2. Changing is a natural thing.. SC2 was released and it is good. Balance wise the gap is almost closed, streaming posibilities are much better then in bw.
Anyhow.. if you love doing this, keep up, you are doing an amazing job.

You say that BW was the best game you've played (most of the BW players feel the same). So why would you/we play the game that is not the best game you/we have played?
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
August 08 2013 23:24 GMT
#61
Wait what? Snipesalot is Norwegian? Damn should have known that before I left Korea
I love tuning into the BW streams from time to time, love the effort and the content
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MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
August 09 2013 04:01 GMT
#62
Am I the only one who is still praying that Legacy of the Void will just be... Brood War reskinned..? Its exactly what every1 has wanted since the beginning...

theyve used Hots and WoL to reel in more people.... now lets restore the franchise to its former glory so every1 can appreciate it imo....

cant even watch sc2 anymore cause it just makes me sad watching the same bo's win games...
HerbMon
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States460 Posts
August 09 2013 05:29 GMT
#63
Thank you for the great material :D
How we will win in the period ahead.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 09 2013 09:15 GMT
#64
On August 09 2013 06:11 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 22:21 jarod wrote:
Broodwar was/is an awesome game. Maybe the best game I've played. It is nice to see that is still not died due to some incredible people. But on the other hand I cannot understand why you guys don't move further to sc2. Changing is a natural thing.. SC2 was released and it is good. Balance wise the gap is almost closed, streaming posibilities are much better then in bw.
Anyhow.. if you love doing this, keep up, you are doing an amazing job.

You say that BW was the best game you've played (most of the BW players feel the same). So why would you/we play the game that is not the best game you/we have played?

I think it's just the irrational stress of throwing your time into perfecting a skill which is no longer "relevant".

But as for moving on for the sake of moving on, SC2 is garbage compared to BW.

Me, I play League cause my wrists just can't handle the stress of a proper RTS anymore xD
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Chosi
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Germany1302 Posts
August 09 2013 10:02 GMT
#65
Thank you very much, I really appreciate what you do!
Someday, you’re going to fuck up so magnificently, so ambitiously, so overwhelmingly that the sky will light up and the moons will spin and the gods themselves will shit comets with glee. And I just hope I’m still around to see it.
dalailama3
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7 Posts
August 09 2013 10:02 GMT
#66
Big Thanks Snipealot
snipealot *
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Korea (South)494 Posts
August 09 2013 15:28 GMT
#67
I'm quite busy at the moment so I haven't been able to reply until now - but know that I read every single comment, and I want to thank you all for all the kind words. Thankfully the mod team is amazing and keeps the stream going no matter if I'm sleeping, on vacation or buried in my books trying to finish my dissertation.
I love you all.
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
August 09 2013 20:30 GMT
#68
Bioboyat should get a star of his own since he basically moderates the stream 24/7...
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
NinjoOb
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada128 Posts
August 09 2013 21:16 GMT
#69
Thanks for the stream
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
August 09 2013 21:25 GMT
#70
On August 09 2013 13:01 MaestroSC wrote:
Am I the only one who is still praying that Legacy of the Void will just be... Brood War reskinned..? Its exactly what every1 has wanted since the beginning...

theyve used Hots and WoL to reel in more people.... now lets restore the franchise to its former glory so every1 can appreciate it imo....

cant even watch sc2 anymore cause it just makes me sad watching the same bo's win games...

If you were to apply the units/stats to SC2 it would be broken as fuck and more terrible than SC2 already is.

And I'm 99. (Googolplex 9s) % certain that they will never take a step back with the UI/AI.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
August 10 2013 14:07 GMT
#71
Thank you for everyone that makes this project reality, especially snipealot. May BroodWar last forever.
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
August 10 2013 15:35 GMT
#72
On August 10 2013 05:30 thezanursic wrote:
Bioboyat should get a star of his own since he basically moderates the stream 24/7...

bioboy <3
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Renzin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia75 Posts
August 11 2013 15:09 GMT
#73
Thankyou snipealot and everyone else involved =) Great to be able to watch streaming brood war at any time!
tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
August 11 2013 18:20 GMT
#74
On August 09 2013 13:01 MaestroSC wrote:
Am I the only one who is still praying that Legacy of the Void will just be... Brood War reskinned..? Its exactly what every1 has wanted since the beginning...

theyve used Hots and WoL to reel in more people.... now lets restore the franchise to its former glory so every1 can appreciate it imo....

cant even watch sc2 anymore cause it just makes me sad watching the same bo's win games...

It's a far away dream...

<3 BW
firebathero miss u♥! http://youtu.be/AXkoG9GnpcM - 1998/11/30 to 2001/05/18 BW stabilized! - WoL v.alpha HotS v.beta LotD v.gamma... summer 2017 SC3 (sc1remastered)
Dragoons
Profile Joined January 2012
140 Posts
August 11 2013 18:48 GMT
#75
Big thanks to snipealot and the moderators, the stream is an amazing gift for all non-korean BW fans.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19343 Posts
August 13 2013 11:01 GMT
#76
You are a hero, I hope you don't forget that Thank you!!
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Magreidis
Profile Joined May 2013
Lithuania146 Posts
August 13 2013 16:14 GMT
#77
If not this stream, I wouldn't even learned the game, because with this stream I can watch whenever I want, and all the koreans play this, even some progamers play, who are retired, so thank you very much for this, I have never knew that you werent streaming for example in 2012
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
August 13 2013 16:44 GMT
#78
Thanks snipey!!
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32271 Posts
August 15 2013 12:28 GMT
#79
Thanks a lot man
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TehRei
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden261 Posts
August 15 2013 15:11 GMT
#80
Thank you for all your hard work. The last 10~ish months of BW wouldn't have been possible without it.

<3
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
August 17 2013 10:45 GMT
#81
Wow, I'm a terrible person for not seeing this earlier. Thank you so much for all your dedication and hard work. You're a hero of the BW community
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16836 Posts
August 17 2013 13:58 GMT
#82
Thanks to everyone who made the stream possible. Snipealot, if I am ever in Korea (very big chance of going there to study), I'll take my laptop and sacrifice it so you can stream more BW from it.

Seriously, thank you... All of you.
The Bomber boy
Jitensha
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden68 Posts
August 19 2013 06:43 GMT
#83
Late arrival here as well T_T

Thank you very much for the time and effort you (and everyone else who made it possible) put into the stream, and for the countless of hours of enjoyment it provided us with.
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1183 Posts
August 20 2013 07:25 GMT
#84
Thank you very much for providing us with our daily dose of Starcraft! Much appreciated and hope things continue to do well on your end!
Flash should fear Sacsri
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
August 20 2013 13:03 GMT
#85
Been enjoying your stream since you started, a true hero you are!
kjwcj
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia1064 Posts
September 04 2013 13:26 GMT
#86
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