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DOTA 2 is now KING of ESPORTS - Page 3

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shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
February 15 2012 16:22 GMT
#41
uhhh.. Broodwar?

You guys are 10 years late. LOL
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 16:42:33
February 15 2012 16:41 GMT
#42
Just a note I make my posts using proper forethought. Much like seeing a cake in the oven and knowing it will turn out the best because of ingredients, chef skill, etc is the same way I know Dota 2 is the #1 esport.

The features, growth so far, support, and largest esport tournament on the planet EVERY year with flying in 80+ people fully paid is just the beginning of where this is going.

Already you can see the numbers of joindota stream watchers going up, from a few hundred to the now 9,000+ marks, with good vod viewership and youtube numbers. The force behind Dota 2 is far greater than even SC2 at this point in it's life and lol was a joke in beta. It's honestly mind boggling how shortsighted people are in not seeing the veritable avalanche that is dota 2 esports.

It will be free as well.
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
February 15 2012 16:43 GMT
#43
On February 16 2012 01:22 shaftofpleasure wrote:
uhhh.. Broodwar?

You guys are 10 years late. LOL

Get with the times, BW is dead.

User was banned for this post.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 15 2012 16:51 GMT
#44
On February 15 2012 23:20 red4ce wrote:
I hope they succeed. More competition means Blizzard will have to up their game.

This. It's not as if Blizzard is incapable of these things. They just would need to have incentive/try to do them.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
February 15 2012 16:54 GMT
#45
On February 16 2012 01:41 dacthehork wrote:

It will be free as well.


They said they haven't decided on a business model and merely remain open to the idea of F2P. =.=

Just goes to show how irrationally optimistic you are.

Until these things materialise, it's all just hype talk.

Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 16:58:10
February 15 2012 16:56 GMT
#46
The free to play business model that LoL has isn't a good one from a player's perspective. Anyone who actually plays LoL knows that it's abusive as shit, and that you would rather pay a 50 dollar one time fee to have the game in its entirety. If Dota2 follows LoL's business model I don't know how it would go, especially when most Dota players got every hero and function for free.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
February 15 2012 16:58 GMT
#47
On February 16 2012 01:56 Itsmedudeman wrote:
The free to play business model that LoL has isn't a good one from a player's perspective. Anyone who actually plays LoL knows that it's abusive as shit, and that you would rather pay a 50 dollar one time fee to have the game in its entirety. If Dota2 follows LoL's business model I don't know how it would go, especially when most Dota players got every hero and function for free.


You won't be able to top Riot's 5 mil with a one time fee model though.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1936 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 17:35:58
February 15 2012 17:02 GMT
#48
THE KING OF THE NORTH ESPORTS

I swear this is what it looks like to an outsider when you dota2 guys start rambling. lololol
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
February 15 2012 17:03 GMT
#49
Good for them, but I personally have no interest in MOBAs. I really do hope DotA 2 and other MOBA games succeed as esports, but preferably not at the detriment of RTS games like SC2 and BW. I respect the games, their communities, and their esports endeavors, but I find no interest in playing or watching those types of games.

Great for DotA 2 to be pushing to include all these great features that SC2 should have, thus causing quite a bit of competition for Blizzard to improve their efforts with SC2. I'm especially intrigued by the possibility of including mod support. Perhaps someone can reverse-engineer an RTS out of DotA 2? That would be something.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 15 2012 17:04 GMT
#50
Two words: Brood War
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
February 15 2012 17:08 GMT
#51
On February 16 2012 02:04 Bagration wrote:
Two words: Brood War

I can agree, but only in Korea and arguably in China. Everywhere else, not so much even though there are a lot of passionate fans and players for the game.
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Uranium
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1077 Posts
February 15 2012 17:16 GMT
#52
PUDGE WARS!!!!!!!
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Tryndamere
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada145 Posts
February 15 2012 17:17 GMT
#53
I seriously don't get Valve's intention. Before the game was even out you had players playing for millions of dollars of prize money, and the general public didn't even have access to the game. That was just completely retarded from Valve's perspective.
My right arm is much stronger than my left arm!
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 17:20:25
February 15 2012 17:19 GMT
#54
On February 16 2012 02:17 Tryndamere wrote:
I seriously don't get Valve's intention. Before the game was even out you had players playing for millions of dollars of prize money, and the general public didn't even have access to the game. That was just completely retarded from Valve's perspective.

1000% agree. The hype from it is already gone and it's still miles away from release and not even many people have beta access yet. I'd like to hear what a valve representative would have to say before I slapped them in the face and told them hosting a tournament when the game was available would have been better in any situation imaginable.
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
February 15 2012 17:40 GMT
#55
There is no THE thing to watch. People are going to watch mostly whichever game they enjoy playing the most/ whichever game they find most entertaining to watch. No body is going to watch DOTA2 exclusively over another game for its higher prize pool, embedded stream, LAN, etc. If they gave Halo a million dollar prize pool would I ever watch it over sc2? Nope.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Ryhn
Profile Joined February 2010
United States509 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 17:43:12
February 15 2012 17:41 GMT
#56
On February 16 2012 02:19 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 02:17 Tryndamere wrote:
I seriously don't get Valve's intention. Before the game was even out you had players playing for millions of dollars of prize money, and the general public didn't even have access to the game. That was just completely retarded from Valve's perspective.

1000% agree. The hype from it is already gone and it's still miles away from release and not even many people have beta access yet. I'd like to hear what a valve representative would have to say before I slapped them in the face and told them hosting a tournament when the game was available would have been better in any situation imaginable.


That tournament served a major purpose aside from hype.

It essentially, in one fell swoop, caused every foreign DotA team to switch to Dota 2. This matters because the hardcore DotA fans see this, and think, "Hey, I want to play what the pros are playing!"

The International was not a cry out to the general public so much as it was a love letter to the already established community.

The Chinese have been showing interest in the game, but the current setup for the servers isn't very good for them, not yet.

LAN will be a huge piece of the puzzle to winning them over. Dota 2 has been down for the past day or so for major network improvements (The next update will also include a complete overhaul to the Source Engine's networking component, verified by Zoid on the dev forums), and Erik Johnson has pledged to continue adding servers into regions until everyone can play with sub 100ms ping.

I'd be willing to bet money that The International 2 will be the big advertising event you claim the first failed to be.

Erik Johnson himself said that The International last year was mainly being used for a learning experiece - they'd never done anything like it before, and needed to get some experience in hosting and broadcasting large tournaments before it really mattered.


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gurrpp
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States437 Posts
February 15 2012 17:45 GMT
#57
On February 15 2012 23:37 zalz wrote:
3) Is less competitive


Huh?

On February 16 2012 00:27 heyoka wrote:
There is a pretty good chance Dota is too late to market and LoL will blow it out of the water for many years. Features and functionality are (sadly) far from the most important thing when it comes to how big a pass-time becomes.


Unfortunately this is true. HoN has had better features than LoL for a long time, but still hasn't seen anything like the growth LoL has despite going f2p and creating the best spectator ui I have ever seen.

I have faith that valve will make dota2 far more accessible than HoN, which seems to me to be the main determinant of whether a game sinks or swims in this genre. The fact that dota2 also is years ahead of everyone when it comes to in game features is a plus as well.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 15 2012 18:07 GMT
#58
The sc2 hater proclaims a probability! Although I wouldn't say "now" because as of this exact moment it is not. But I do hope this gives blizzard more of an incentive to add features to make sc2 even better esports wise :D.
When I think of something else, something will go here
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
February 15 2012 18:15 GMT
#59
I don't see a MOBA ever passing SC2 in watch-ability they are so boring to watch. I've played probably LoL and Dota2 and While they are fun to play they are boring to watch imo. Starcraft is so much fun to watch BW even doubly so.
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Bengui
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada775 Posts
February 15 2012 18:24 GMT
#60
Call me back when the prize pool minus what Valve sponsors directly is higher than the SC2 prize pool minus what Blizzard sponsors directly.
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