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DOTA 2 is now KING of ESPORTS

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dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 13:58:33
February 15 2012 13:57 GMT
#1
Lan Mode Confirmed
minimium 1.6 million prizepool tournament held annually
Valve have said they might support smaller events as well
Internal goal is for everyone to watch DOTA 2 international using Dota TV inside their game clients
More modes coming down the pipe
Hopeful goal of supporting mods inside Dota 2, aka pudge wars
Full service replays comiing this week, aka fastforward, rewind, pick a time, slow motion, free camera, and possibly group watching.

I can now 100% confirm Dota 2 will be the #1 esport worldwide and the rest will be sitting scratching their heads.


http://www.joindota.com/en/news/2526-erik-johnson-confirms-lan-mode-for-dota2

We split this problem into two parts, there are things we have to do inside of the game for the competitive community, and things we have to do outside of the game. We think we're off to a good start in the game, with support for broadcasting, replays, spectation, etc.

Outside of the game, to be honest, we still feel like we have a lot to learn. Last year's event taught a bunch, and we anticipate this year's event will do the same.


**
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3815 Posts
February 15 2012 14:01 GMT
#2
Still have to fight LoL (f2p), HoN and various other games.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
February 15 2012 14:01 GMT
#3
Fuck. Blizzard so lazy with SC2. Good on valve for throwing down the gauntlet
Push 2 Harder
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
February 15 2012 14:02 GMT
#4
Yes yes, as if it is a good thing to be the king of Esoprts
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
February 15 2012 14:04 GMT
#5
The game isnt even out yet. Hold them accountable to their promises once it is instead of blindly salivating over announcements.
NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
February 15 2012 14:05 GMT
#6
"Hopeful goal of supporting mods inside Dota 2, aka pudge wars"

If they really allow for all them old goodies to be remade, I'll be so happy. Pudge Wars, Warlocks, TD variants etc. were some of the highlights during the LANs between games of Dota, BW, CS etc.
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
February 15 2012 14:07 GMT
#7
On February 15 2012 23:04 Jinsho wrote:
The game isnt even out yet. Hold them accountable to their promises once it is instead of blindly salivating over announcements.

announcing lan is a pretty big deal, they also hint the game will be open beta by late this year.
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
ReturnStroke
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States801 Posts
February 15 2012 14:15 GMT
#8
it feels weird buying a moba for me. but i might do it this time.
KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
February 15 2012 14:18 GMT
#9
The game might be f2p, so u can try it out if ure interested. If not, then just delete it off steam. Really simple to do
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
xXxSepirothxXx
Profile Joined November 2011
68 Posts
February 15 2012 14:19 GMT
#10
FUCK blizztism.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
February 15 2012 14:20 GMT
#11
I hope they succeed. More competition means Blizzard will have to up their game.
drgoats
Profile Joined March 2010
United States310 Posts
February 15 2012 14:23 GMT
#12
To be fair, everything that they say they will have I believe LoL has (accept LAN). Also, Riot is offering 5 million in prizes this year.
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
February 15 2012 14:26 GMT
#13
LAN mode and embedded streams. AKA how to be successful at ESPORTS.

Blizz makes great games but sometimes I wonder why we give them our money!
Sc2Requiem
Profile Joined June 2011
United States121 Posts
February 15 2012 14:27 GMT
#14
Blizzard is going hands-on with Sc2 this year. Community maps in the ladder pool is just the tip of the iceberg. I'm hoping the competition heats up because then we all win!
"What is defeat? Nothing but education; nothing but the first step towards something better."
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
February 15 2012 14:28 GMT
#15
LoL is a bad game - competetive wise. Even the Pros are saying that and everyone who has watched alot LoL games and actually understands whats happening knows that. Its a good game for the masses though , no doubt...

Dota 2 will be THE esport to play when it is released.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12866 Posts
February 15 2012 14:28 GMT
#16
On February 15 2012 23:05 NeonFlare wrote:
"Hopeful goal of supporting mods inside Dota 2, aka pudge wars"

If they really allow for all them old goodies to be remade, I'll be so happy. Pudge Wars, Warlocks, TD variants etc. were some of the highlights during the LANs between games of Dota, BW, CS etc.

me too, oh man, pudge war and TDs are so damn addictive
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 14:30:38
February 15 2012 14:30 GMT
#17
Competition is always nice.

Either Blizzard adapts or they die, it's that simple. They are making DotA 2 far more accessible to the masses (compared to the first one), while still keeping a huge skill ceiling in place and Valve is doing everything right. I will say that bigger prize pools doesn't legitimize it more. Whether SC2, or if you're LoL throwing retarded amounts of money down the drain to shock people into watching the game. Not to say it's not awesome that LoL and DotA 2 and whatnot are putting this money into ESPORTS, just saying.

As I said though, competition is necessary. SC2 is now going to have to step its game up to compete with what this game can potentially do to the scene. I hope DotA 2 does awesome, and I hope the SC2 scene manages to get their shit together and be a worthy opponent. Same with LoL and whatever other game wants to try to get a huge scene.

Remember, in Capitalism, the more companies compete -- the more us customers win.
D4V3Z02
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany693 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 14:34:09
February 15 2012 14:32 GMT
#18
On February 15 2012 23:15 ReturnStroke wrote:
it feels weird buying a moba for me. but i might do it this time.


this word should only be used when swearing, it is very bad mannered.

Even Idra wouldnt use it, after he got an big advantage and left a game :D
http://www.twitch.tv/d4v3z02 all your base are belong to overlord
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
February 15 2012 14:37 GMT
#19
On February 15 2012 23:28 chroniX wrote:
LoL is a bad game - competetive wise. Even the Pros are saying that and everyone who has watched alot LoL games and actually understands whats happening knows that. Its a good game for the masses though , no doubt...

Dota 2 will be THE esport to play when it is released.


What a trivial word it is then.

THE esport? How would you go about defining it?


Difficulty? Then why do people think SC2 is THE esport when BW is much harder? MOBA games are also very easy. It isn't like you need to micro an entire army, just the one champion.

Oke, so it isn't difficulty because by that standard, Dota 2 falls short.


Is it popularity? Well no, because LoL is likely to remain the most popular MOBA game with its already large playerbase.


Oke, so is it prize money? Well no, because LoL has 5 million over the 1.6 million Dota 2 prize pool.



I get that people hate LoL. Most of the reasons are invalid, but I understand that they do. But how do you go about declaring Dota 2 as "THE esport?"

When a game has:

1) A smaller audience
2) A small playerbase
3) Is less competitive
4) Has smaller prize pools

Then how is it THE esport?


Sorry, but you sound like a curling fan that screams "Curling is THE sport to watch this year."

Sorry, it just isn't. It isn't bigger than football, it isn't bigger than soccer. You sound almost delusional when you yell out such obviously unfounded claims.


Why isn't it enough to just like Dota 2? Why must it be THE esport, even when it falls short in every category when compared to other esport titles?
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
February 15 2012 14:40 GMT
#20
Lan, bigger prize pool, embedded streams, etc. does not make for a better esport?!

I've watched a lot of different games and i've yet to find a games that I can watch as a sport that wasn't an RTS. The problem with MOBA's and FPS are that they are horrible spectator games - in my opinion. I just don't find any enjoyment in watching a HoN, LoL or CS game. But I do very much like watching War3 and SCII.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
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