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ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 22:07:33
January 21 2012 22:05 GMT
#41
whops, totally wrong thread

on topic: i think it actually can work, and if it gets messy... maybe even that is a worthwhile experience in the end
bisu
peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
January 21 2012 22:12 GMT
#42
I think that you should go for it, usually people who you fall in serious love with are the people that are both your best friend and your best lover.

I have had some similar experience but not on such a serious level. I was in a class with a girl who I had known for a year or so, and really started to become good friends with her. Then it hit me, I really liked this girl. This is probably the same feelings that you are feeling now. I didn't act on those feelings that I had at the time, and I think that it is one of the worse decisions of my life. She's dating my best friend now

So I have to tell you don't make the same mistake that I did!!! You'll regret it!!
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 21 2012 22:13 GMT
#43
Even if you discard any specific factors, "friends with benefits" is a fairly short-term relationship with no real follow-up you can realistically hope for. If you really care about her as a friend and want her to stay in your life, end it now.
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 22:18:31
January 21 2012 22:17 GMT
#44
On January 22 2012 04:24 kusto wrote:
No, it can't. When intimacy is involved, things will get messy. Absolutely guaranteed.

Do not listen to this guy. I have been in this situation a few times, and while I'll admit the relationship does change a little, I am still good friends with these girls, even today. You have to remember if you engage in a relationship like this that you are first and foremost friends. You need to treat it as such, and that these benefits are temporary, unless it develops into something different. The biggest problem I can see is if one person or the other begins to expect these benefits all the time, as with a real relationship, if that's the case then you need to discuss it, but it's not the end of anything.

tldr: If you both act like adults and respect one another, it can work fine, just, make sure that this is the case. Also, don't expect things to stay the same, as all things change over time.
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 22:23:31
January 21 2012 22:22 GMT
#45
On January 22 2012 07:17 wo1fwood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 04:24 kusto wrote:
No, it can't. When intimacy is involved, things will get messy. Absolutely guaranteed.

Do not listen to this guy. I have been in this situation a few times, and while I'll admit the relationship does change a little, I am still good friends with these girls, even today. You have to remember if you engage in a relationship like this that you are first and foremost friends. You need to treat it as such, and that these benefits are temporary, unless it develops into something different. The biggest problem I can see is if one person or the other begins to expect these benefits all the time, as with a real relationship, if that's the case then you need to discuss it, but it's not the end of anything.

tldr: If you both act like adults and respect one another, it can work fine, just, make sure that this is the case.


You can't have him bank on personal anecdotes. Almost anyone has a personal experience with these kinds of things, for some people it worked out, for some it didn't, some people didn't act on it and regret it, others didn't and didn't regret it, etc. In the end it's all statistics, and without a reasonable sample size.

The very bottom line that we might agree on is that it's a risk with generally unfavourable odds. Is casual sex really worth that risk? It's not like you can't get it elsewhere, it's fairly straightforward these days.
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 22:31:07
January 21 2012 22:30 GMT
#46
On January 22 2012 04:13 mordk wrote:
So the question is, can my best friend be my friend with benefits and our friendship survive? I'm new at this, but this is my best friend, and I don't want to lose her. I'd rather never kiss her ever again than lose her as my friend. What does TL think?

Yes.

But.

Your friendship will be over if you fall in love with her or she with you.

If either of you fall in love with someone else, it should be fine.
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
January 21 2012 22:32 GMT
#47
On January 22 2012 07:22 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 07:17 wo1fwood wrote:
On January 22 2012 04:24 kusto wrote:
No, it can't. When intimacy is involved, things will get messy. Absolutely guaranteed.

Do not listen to this guy. I have been in this situation a few times, and while I'll admit the relationship does change a little, I am still good friends with these girls, even today. You have to remember if you engage in a relationship like this that you are first and foremost friends. You need to treat it as such, and that these benefits are temporary, unless it develops into something different. The biggest problem I can see is if one person or the other begins to expect these benefits all the time, as with a real relationship, if that's the case then you need to discuss it, but it's not the end of anything.

tldr: If you both act like adults and respect one another, it can work fine, just, make sure that this is the case.


You can't have him bank on personal anecdotes. Almost anyone has a personal experience with these kinds of things, for some people it worked out, for some it didn't, some people didn't act on it and regret it, others didn't and didn't regret it, etc. In the end it's all statistics, and without a reasonable sample size.

The very bottom line that we might agree on is that it's a risk with generally unfavourable odds. Is casual sex really worth that risk? It's not like you can't get it elsewhere, it's fairly straightforward these days.

I can agree with most of what you said, and I certainly wouldn't have him act on personal testimonies, as I don't know him or their relationship (which is a rather large consideration), but it just seemed that a lot of people were portraying it as an overtly bad decision based on long odds, and wanted to offer a slightly different perspective from someone where it worked. I will agree (and for emphasis) that it is a risk, sometimes a considerable one, and that you really need to be reticent of whats going on for it to work, but that it can work.
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Moda
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway60 Posts
January 21 2012 22:36 GMT
#48
Seems to me like someones being friendzoned.
dat microwave
DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
January 21 2012 22:39 GMT
#49
Sure it can. Guys are excellent when it comes to keeping things casual. The question is though... Can she?
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 22:43:32
January 21 2012 22:40 GMT
#50
Ok I'm reading this and have my gf on the skype so here's part of a female perspective to it as well.
This won't work,it never works.
Even if you somehow avoid falling in love with each other and find someone else,your relationship is going to be screwed over because of it.
Think about it.If you find some other girl she is going to be INSANELY suspicious every time you guys meet to hang out or something since you two have a past with each other and if you don't tell her,your going to be fucked when it eventually comes out.
Once you have sex with her it will never be the same again.
Cackle™
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 22:48:44
January 21 2012 22:43 GMT
#51
On January 22 2012 07:36 Moda wrote:
Seems to me like someones being friendzoned.

Well.. friendzone typically involves a guy in deep suffering because he loves his friend and can't tell her, thus nothing happens.

I don't love her, and things happened XD

Add to that, I wouldn't care if I got "friendzoned" (minus the love), I enjoy this friendship thoroughly.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
January 21 2012 22:48 GMT
#52
If you're taking her to salsa lessons its more then friends with benefits. There's obviously some emotional dependency between you two. Sex will mess it up.

Friends with benefits is possible, just not with someone you're really close with.
Wasteweiser
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada522 Posts
January 21 2012 23:07 GMT
#53
Uhhh, you're future relationships with women will on edge if you fucked around with ur best friend. It's going to be one or the other.
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HeLkAt
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada15 Posts
January 21 2012 23:18 GMT
#54
If you are interested in a females perspective on this, it is "do-able". Only problem is that the definition of do-able has multiple contingencies. I have had multiple friends with benefits situations so I might be biased, but if this is your first one I would suggest being careful. I have had a few turn bad, and a few turn out okay so really its all about what you guys can agree on. I believe your best option would be to agree that if anything physical happens, just be as buddy buddy as possible after. Don't treat each other like a boyfriend/gf would, but make sure the other person knows that you care and stuff, the last thing you want is someone feelings like they are being used.
never give up, never surrender
LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
January 21 2012 23:28 GMT
#55
On January 22 2012 07:12 peekn wrote:
I think that you should go for it, usually people who you fall in serious love with are the people that are both your best friend and your best lover.

I have had some similar experience but not on such a serious level. I was in a class with a girl who I had known for a year or so, and really started to become good friends with her. Then it hit me, I really liked this girl. This is probably the same feelings that you are feeling now. I didn't act on those feelings that I had at the time, and I think that it is one of the worse decisions of my life. She's dating my best friend now

So I have to tell you don't make the same mistake that I did!!! You'll regret it!!


Your situation is completely different (at least from what he claims). You had a friend you wanted a romantic relationship with but either couldn't or didn't act on. He claims he DOESN'T want a romantic relationship, just a friendship and sex.

Personally, it sounds to me like you would have feelings for her if she had feelings for you, but you don't think she does. That being the case, even if you can separate sex and emotion with other girls, you might not be able to with her. I think you should find a way to let her know that you don't think a physical relationship is good for a friendship. If you think the friendship can take it and you're usually straightforward with her (and don't think it'd be violating any boundaries), let her know that you might be open to trying out a relationship if the time comes when she's ready.

I think fuck buddies generally work out better than friends with benefits, because there's almost no chance emotions get in the way due to the lack of social contact. Maybe get a fuck buddy somewhere else, and keep her as the friend
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
January 21 2012 23:32 GMT
#56
imo just see where it goes. Lessons can be learned either way. If you are really scared of it messing up your friendship with her just explain that to her then. Best of luck!
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
January 21 2012 23:55 GMT
#57
Nope. One person or both people will want more. You'll either lose a friend or gain a girlfriend.
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husniack
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
203 Posts
January 22 2012 00:05 GMT
#58
Think about it this way:

Would your female friends let you stick your penis halfway up their throat? Probably not. There is no free lunch.

Eventually, you got to pay with something. Either 1) Relationship. 2) Friendship.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
January 22 2012 00:25 GMT
#59
On January 22 2012 08:28 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 07:12 peekn wrote:
I think that you should go for it, usually people who you fall in serious love with are the people that are both your best friend and your best lover.

I have had some similar experience but not on such a serious level. I was in a class with a girl who I had known for a year or so, and really started to become good friends with her. Then it hit me, I really liked this girl. This is probably the same feelings that you are feeling now. I didn't act on those feelings that I had at the time, and I think that it is one of the worse decisions of my life. She's dating my best friend now

So I have to tell you don't make the same mistake that I did!!! You'll regret it!!


Your situation is completely different (at least from what he claims). You had a friend you wanted a romantic relationship with but either couldn't or didn't act on. He claims he DOESN'T want a romantic relationship, just a friendship and sex.

Personally, it sounds to me like you would have feelings for her if she had feelings for you, but you don't think she does. That being the case, even if you can separate sex and emotion with other girls, you might not be able to with her. I think you should find a way to let her know that you don't think a physical relationship is good for a friendship. If you think the friendship can take it and you're usually straightforward with her (and don't think it'd be violating any boundaries), let her know that you might be open to trying out a relationship if the time comes when she's ready.

I think fuck buddies generally work out better than friends with benefits, because there's almost no chance emotions get in the way due to the lack of social contact. Maybe get a fuck buddy somewhere else, and keep her as the friend


It took me a minuet to figure out what you meant the difference between fuck buddies and friend with benefits. But i totally agree fuck buddies call up "Sex? Ok" friends with benefits your going to see them later that day or the next day with other people. Could you hold a conservation without looking at the other sexually? Doubt it i know i couldn't
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 22 2012 00:39 GMT
#60
It worked with me the couple times I did it. The friendships faded but that was because I went off to school or they did. It was nice when it lasted.
However, I was the sort of person who was infatuated first, got what I wanted, then no longer saw them in a romantic light. I think it was probably better that way. They never got attached and neither did I.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
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