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On December 15 2011 22:28 mTwRINE wrote:
Betting on Favs, more than 1/10th bankroll and stuff like that?
Have fun when luck runs out.
Yes, I have experienced it before and I am prepared to lose that amount. Again, I'm not preaching myself to be some betting expert, a lot of it is luck as you can see in the betting history I posted. I posted to show my success, which can be attributed to common sense, a good understanding of the game, and luck.
You know the difference between betting on the Fav with more than 1/10th of bankroll in this sport compared to another?
You get can gets odds on the favorite at 1.3 when they should be at 1.1. That's the difference.
So while some of those may seem like reckless bets, they are value (i admit there are a few in there that are plain reckless and I got lucky, but there aren't actually that many ...)
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there is no such thing as betting to win, no matter how logical and clear mind you are.
You are gambling and a lot of it is luck. Your up 10k now, but eventually you'll be down 10K.
People who gamble share and tell others when they are up, but hide when they are down.
Casinos and lottery/betting organizations are not charities, they are not giving out three money. They make money off people who think they are gambling gods.
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On December 15 2011 22:39 Apolex wrote:
there is no such thing as betting to win, no matter how logical and clear mind you are.
You are gambling and a lot of it is luck. Your up 10k now, but eventually you'll be down 10K.
People who gamble share and tell others when they are up, but hide when they are down.
Casinos and lottery/betting organizations are not charities, they are not giving out three money. They make money off people who think they are gambling gods.
"there is no such thing as betting to win, no matter how logical and clear mind you are."
There definitely is. If oyu only bet when there is apo tively expected return, and your analysis are correct, your a long term winner. However OP kinda doesn't make betvalue analysis. I mean he uses phrases like "i am going to bet on the same guy the whole tournament).
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But regarding luck, You can see I lost some large amounts on the way up (marineking vs darkforce...), but I also made some pretty risky and large bets that I won. In the WCG, I would have continued to place bets on marineking and supernova, but luckily for me, pinnacle did not offer betting lines for the games they lost in their subsequent matchups! If they did, I would probably have lost between 1-2k there...
It was a nice story and all but betting like 20-30% of your BR on a couple of matches is just silly... obviously if this money doesn't matter to you at all then by all means but i just hope you or other people dont get the illusion that you're doing the right things and you're skilled, which might be the case but this is just busto waiting to happen.
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On December 15 2011 22:20 Dariusz wrote:
Untill there's a bonjwa in sc2 i will not bet a single penny on it.
Coming from a poker player.
I don't understand either part of your post.
Either you're planning on betting on the bonjwa which means you will gain almost nothing when you win.
OR
You're planning on betting on the massive underdog which means you probably won't ever win.
And you're not a "poker player" you might play poker, but let's get real you're no big shot.
On December 15 2011 21:44 darkness wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 21:40 Kipsate wrote:On December 15 2011 21:38 darkness wrote:
3rd option: neither
Betting is too risky and possibly addictive. wow Buzzkill MMA definitely. Yeah, better to be that type of person compared to the one who has negative income. That guy might have won 10k, but what about other people or his future bets?
Yes, if you can't control your gambling habit and have continued losing results meaning you bet too much and can't stop betting then perhaps it is too "risky and possibly addictive." For those who have common sense however and know how to limit themselves how is it different than you going to play a game of golf at an expensive course once a month? $400 a round vs $400 gambling allowance in one situation you have a 0% chance of making any money unless of course you're betting on the golf game itself lololol
I don't know why with your stance you would have even bothered posting in this thread.
----- AT OP
I'm not exactly sure why you made this thread at all. If one were to agree with your betting methods and everyone used them then eventually the lines get pushed and you start making less on your bets. So, is this some sort of bragging post? Advertisement for a scam gambling website? I don't know, but it really doesn't make sense to me either way.
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Russian Federation164 Posts
lol why do u keep giving advices on bankroll management, etc.
even if that's pure luck and eventually he'll have a negative ROI, he doesn't seem to care
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On December 15 2011 22:39 Apolex wrote:
there is no such thing as betting to win, no matter how logical and clear mind you are.
You are gambling and a lot of it is luck. Your up 10k now, but eventually you'll be down 10K.
People who gamble share and tell others when they are up, but hide when they are down.
Casinos and lottery/betting organizations are not charities, they are not giving out three money. They make money off people who think they are gambling gods.
Nonsense. Some gambling is always self-defeating such as roulette, but sportsbetting can be profitable over a large sample if you know wtf you are doing
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On December 15 2011 22:44 Elefes wrote:
lol why do u keep giving advices on bankroll management, etc.
even if that's pure luck and eventually he'll have a negative ROI, he doesn't seem to care
If he follows br management from now on, the he might be able to prolong his illusion of him being able to profitable in betting on esports.
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Look I updated the main post to make it clearer and not give people the wrong idea
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This is not my occupation nor to encourage people to be as reckless.
I'm only posting my experience, I have not had a negative year betting on starcraft, and I have been doing so since BW. But every bet I place is not done with the intention of making money as a priority. I watch the games live and enjoy having money on the players.
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Hahahahaha, introductory to gambling in pro-gaming. It just doesn't feel right, im very against gambling in all forms.
Was something like this existent in BW?
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Belgium38799 Posts
Funny how you started with something fun.
And now all the partypoopers made you EDIT it 1543868545428 times so that it is at least responsable fun!
Congratz on the 10K. I hope you make another 10.
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fuck really?
I wish i were of legal gambling age
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somewhere.....there is a ex-addicted gambler...who came to eSports......to try and distract himself.....and now he is crying XP
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Wut, so basically I've been doing liquibets for nothing...
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Nobody thinks he just made this post so people would bet by the 'rules' he made, so he gets better ods while not following his so called rules?
/conspiracy theory
No on a serious note: Congratulations on a job wel done, but imo i don't know how responsible it is to advocate gambling in a community like this: a lot of people are probably not even of legal betting age here. There are always people who think they can handle it, but will tilt when they start losing. That's why i always am against advocating gambling.
TL;DR: Grats on your 10K, but people dont fall for the hype now. . please!
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I need to hack liquibet and use the voting numbers for betting IRL.
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On December 15 2011 22:50 RogerX wrote:
Hahahahaha, introductory to gambling in pro-gaming. It just doesn't feel right, im very against gambling in all forms.
Was something like this existent in BW?
xlbet.com, dutch based site, ran for quite a long time. It had a maximum bet limit and had decent odds. The cool thing about Starcraft betting (currently and in the past) is in my opinion extra factors you can take into advantage if you have knowledge such as maps. However some of the factors people are saying as rules they follow are a bit too vague to be useful.
The OP seemed just lucky, it doesn't sound like a solid system at all. Example, saying stuff like always bet against foreigners is unhelpful completely. Considering they are likely to have the higher odds in some cases picking smart choices of foreigners could infact be a better choice, considering SC2 volatility.
Edit: infact personally i wouldn't advise on betting on SC2 at all (outside of just plain fun) unless the odds are particularly favourable, it seems less likely to have an advantage than BW betting did. In my opinion at least.
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On December 15 2011 22:44 NoobSkills wrote:
----- AT OP
I'm not exactly sure why you made this thread at all. If one were to agree with your betting methods and everyone used them then eventually the lines get pushed and you start making less on your bets. So, is this some sort of bragging post? Advertisement for a scam gambling website? I don't know, but it really doesn't make sense to me either way.
I'm not betting on SC2 to make money. All punts I make, I can afford to lose and do so for fun. I know a lot of people probably don't know you could place bets on SC2 matches, so just wanted to let people know, along with bragging about my huge winning streak ;p
I have been a betting man for a long time, and was super excited when I first learnt about being able to place bets on BW matches, as I am also a huge starcraft fan. So it doesn't bother me one bit if the odds get skewed either which way.
I had to make a few edits to the original post to make it clear that I am not condoning this a serious way to make money.
Just want the sport I love to keep growing, I enjoy the matches thoroughly win or lose (was very happy for MMA and the fan reaction even though I blew 2k of my bankroll on that match, which btw to all of those making excuses for MVP about him being tired - all excuses! MVP underestimated an extremely well prepared MMA. That's why he lost full stop.)
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On December 15 2011 21:49 EvilSky wrote:
Yes but how much did you lose?
WINNAR!
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I like gambling. My liquibet stats tell me I should bet on SC, too. Sadly, I have no money to bet with, lol.
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