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As with all forms of gambling, betting on progames will yield winners and losers. Don't forget that you could easily be that loser. | ||
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Kwanny
Germany222 Posts
On December 15 2011 22:20 Dariusz wrote: Untill there's a bonjwa in sc2 i will not bet a single penny on it. Coming from a poker player. And then everyone would bet on the bonjwa, and you would get almost nothing out of it. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On December 15 2011 21:38 darkness wrote: 3rd option: neither Betting is too risky and possibly addictive. Dont be stupid and preachy plz. On December 15 2011 22:20 Dariusz wrote: Untill there's a bonjwa in sc2 i will not bet a single penny on it. Coming from a poker player. That makes no sense whatsoever? | ||
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Corrik
United States1416 Posts
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Surili
United Kingdom1141 Posts
On December 15 2011 22:21 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Dont be stupid and preachy plz. That makes no sense whatsoever? Maybe he means until the game is figured out enough that one person can be significantly better than others and shows that the game is very skill based he won't bet? I am not sure, trying to make sense of it. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
If I had to bet, I would bet on MMA. Why? Because of the SlayerS factor. It's no secret that they have a lot of good terrans & some good zergs (if Coca still participates in practices). It's also no secret that they work closely together to help each other for upcoming matches. They also have specific strategy coaches who analyse the opponent's style of play and think of ways to use that information against them. MMA has also shown he has a wide variety of playstyles to throw his opponents off. Obviously other factors come into play like DRG's current ZvT style & his practice environment. The maps also play a huge role. However, I still think MMA has the edge. My prediction is 4-1/4-2 for MMA. | ||
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tgun
434 Posts
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mTwRINE
Germany318 Posts
Have fun when luck runs out. | ||
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Dariusz
Poland657 Posts
On December 15 2011 22:21 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Dont be stupid and preachy plz. That makes no sense whatsoever? So does betting on sports as volatile as current SCII. The point is not to wait for bonjwa to bet on him but to wait for him as an indicator of stable game. | ||
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droppanda
Australia176 Posts
On December 15 2011 22:00 Switchy wrote: The way you seem to handle it OP makes me think it was just dumb luck. I mean making a poll who to put $1000 on? I've done football betting for a while and it was quite hard work to get just 103-104% ROI. Just quit now while you are ahead or change you system, its very tempting to go for big stakes but in the long rung careful and balanced play will be more effective. No, it is not dumb luck. You can not place over $30k in bets and come up $10k on top because of dumb luck. The odds on sc2 contain plenty of value bets because the market is relatively new, and is also often skewed by people betting with their hearts (I mentioned how I used to in my opening post). You will often find the odds on foreigners much higher than they should be because a lot of people place bets on them simply because they want them to win, or overestimate their chances of winning. If you are smart, you can exploit this and turn a profit. Yes, as I mentioned, luck plays a part, but there are plenty of other things that you can learn that will tip the odds in your favor. I'm not saying I have some sort of amazing starcraft betting skills. But I have been watching the game for many many years now (since the days Klazart made his first commentary), and have a better understanding of the game than most people that put money on the game. Add this to the fact that I have some cash on the side to spare because I make a decent living, and you can get results. The small ROI you talk about do not apply to such a small market like starcraft betting. When there are value bets, they many many more times than what would be considered a value bet in other sports. This is why you can expect things like 200% ROI. If starcraft betting ever became mainstream and the masses took it up, then yes, this figure would drastically drop, but at the moment, you have a huge advantage if you are on top of the game. | ||
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Xalorian
Canada433 Posts
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
On December 15 2011 22:29 Xalorian wrote: What stop a pro-player from betting against himself? Just wondering... the max amount you can bet is way too low to make that worthwhile as you can only bet on large LAN events on pinnaclesports. | ||
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RHoudini
Belgium3627 Posts
On December 15 2011 22:29 Xalorian wrote: What stop a pro-player from betting against himself? Just wondering... Ethics. | ||
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Dariusz
Poland657 Posts
On December 15 2011 22:29 Xalorian wrote: What stop a pro-player from betting against himself? Just wondering... http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Match_Fixing_Scandal | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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Switchy
343 Posts
Enlighten me then. Are you aware that 1.15 odds mean you need get 7/8 right to at least break even? So place 8 of those bets, get at least 7 right and you still only have a marginal profit. Not a very good strategy to go for such low odds. | ||
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AIOL!
France962 Posts
NEVER bet most than 1/20 of your bankroll is a minimum; 1/50 is normal and 1/100 if you wanna be safe. This is the most basic rule in every beting games, if you wanna continue in this way and be safe against bad runs i really hope you follow these advices  | ||
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KingAce
United States471 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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Kira__
Sweden2672 Posts
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Moop
Sweden50 Posts
On December 15 2011 21:44 XenoX101 wrote: It's a rollercoaster, you can stop when you're at a peak but if you continue eventually you'll fall back down. Almost nobody has an infinite amount of luck, quit while you're ahead unless you know for absolute certain that you can consistently turn a profit, 99.999% of people can't. Implying that someone has infinity luck, or that it even is an element that you can have more or less of =P? Betting can be fun, just like alcohol, just don't overdo it. Edit -Hmm shouldn't compare betting to alcohol, since people can actually earn money of betting if they are good at it and in that case it isn't harmful, but that's a small minority | ||
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
Might have to get into this. Now the question is: How legit is that site? Anyone actually cashed out succesfully? | ||
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