EPTHow I made $10,000 in 2 weeks betting on SC2 - Page 8
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As with all forms of gambling, betting on progames will yield winners and losers. Don't forget that you could easily be that loser. | ||
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jsemmens
United States439 Posts
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aderum
Sweden1459 Posts
I'm not making a judgment call i just find it so interesting that a lot of Americans don't have a problem with smoking weed, but have a problem with betting, and in Sweden its pretty much the exact opposite. Cultural differences is pretty fascinating! | ||
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CP-Jun
Australia278 Posts
On December 16 2011 08:38 m0ck wrote: Explained very simply: You're looking at the number of maps won. You wan't your player to end up with the most maps. That means that DRG +1,5 only needs to win 2 maps to have more maps than his opponent can have at the end of the match (in a bo5). At the most, MMA will get 3 maps. DRG will have 2 maps +1,5 maps from the handicap = 3,5. Conversely, if you bet -1,5, DRG can at the most get 3 maps -1,5 maps = 1,5 maps. In other words, MMA can only win 1 map before DRG gets to 3 maps, or he will end up with more maps than DRG at the end of the match. I hope that makes sense. Would you mind explaining -1.5 part again? I thought the finals were BO7? | ||
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jsemmens
United States439 Posts
On December 16 2011 08:44 aderum wrote: I noticed that many Americans are very against betting and see it as something really dangerous and addictive... Is gambling completely against the law everywhere except Vegas in US? Cause that might explain a lot. I'm not making a judgment call i just find it so interesting that a lot of Americans don't have a problem with smoking weed, but have a problem with betting, and in Sweden its pretty much the exact opposite. Cultural differences is pretty fascinating! Generally, in the US, gambling is legal is 4 places (as far as I know): 1. Las Vegas 2. Atlantic City 3. On water (such as the Michigan Lake Casino boats) 4. On Indian Reservations | ||
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Fugue
Australia253 Posts
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
On December 16 2011 08:44 aderum wrote: I noticed that many Americans are very against betting and see it as something really dangerous and addictive... Is gambling completely against the law everywhere except Vegas in US? Cause that might explain a lot. I'm not making a judgment call i just find it so interesting that a lot of Americans don't have a problem with smoking weed, but have a problem with betting, and in Sweden its pretty much the exact opposite. Cultural differences is pretty fascinating! Gambling is incredibly addicting to those cursed with addictive personalities. It has ruined a couple of my friends' lives and I have a family member who still struggles with it. Insensitive people with no knowledge of the nature of addiction would say "just stop gambling"; for these unfortunates, that's like telling a junkie "just stop using smack bro". I just stay away from it period. I realize not everyone has a problem with it but it's not worth it to me. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9433 Posts
On December 16 2011 08:44 aderum wrote: I noticed that many Americans are very against betting and see it as something really dangerous and addictive... Is gambling completely against the law everywhere except Vegas in US? Cause that might explain a lot. I'm not making a judgment call i just find it so interesting that a lot of Americans don't have a problem with smoking weed, but have a problem with betting, and in Sweden its pretty much the exact opposite. Cultural differences is pretty fascinating! Probably a cultural thing. I guess when you get brought up thinking god is reality, you will be religious when you get older. If you get brought up being constantly told gambling is bad and that you cant beat the bookmaker, you will probably keep believing. | ||
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jjhchsc2
Korea (South)2393 Posts
DRG beat MMA like the last 3-4 times they have met inc GSTL begining and MLG providence. | ||
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timmc
Australia16 Posts
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Gheed
United States972 Posts
On December 16 2011 08:46 jsemmens wrote: Generally, in the US, gambling is legal is 4 places (as far as I know): 1. Las Vegas 2. Atlantic City 3. On water (such as the Michigan Lake Casino boats) 4. On Indian Reservations Gambling is allowed throughout the entire state of Nevada. In other states, beyond the Indian casinos, there are some municipalities where gambling has been allowed by local ordinances; some "riverboat casinos" have moved on land. There's also racetracks, OTBs, sports betting, lotteries, etc. Conservative states with anti-gambling laws eventually got tired of AC, Vegas, and the Indians getting all the tourist dollars, so now everyone wants in on taxing gambling revenue. | ||
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
That realy suprises me as it seems wide open to fraud, seeing how badly pro starcraft is regulated (look at naniwa probe rush for example) Could think of manny possible ways pro players could profit from this in a big way. | ||
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
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Medrea
10003 Posts
What they never mention is the $50,000 they lost getting that $10,000. | ||
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CP-Jun
Australia278 Posts
+1.5 = you get money if a player wins at least 2 games -1.5 = you get money if a player doesnt even win at least 2 games Is this right for the handicap thing? | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On December 16 2011 08:46 CryingPoo wrote: Would you mind explaining -1.5 part again? I thought the finals were BO7? Ah ok, I didn't know it was bo7. In that case, you wanna be counting to 4 maps, which is what player needs to win. If you decide to to play -1,5 on DRG, what you are saying is, that you think he will get the four maps (and thus win the maych) before MMA gets more than 2 maps. In other words, you think DRG is a strong favorite. The way to check it is this: With -1,5 DRG can at the max get: 4 maps (if he wins the match) - 1,5 map (from the handicap) = 2,5 maps. Remember, you want your player to have the most maps at the end of the match. That means, that MMA can at the most get 2 maps before DRG gets 4 maps. If MMA gets 3 or more maps, he will necessarily end up with a higher map-score than DRG: 3-4 maps (MMA) > 2,5 maps (DRG with handicap). It can be a bit tricky to wrap your head around at first, but after a short while it comes naturally. | ||
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aderum
Sweden1459 Posts
On December 16 2011 08:54 IPA wrote: Gambling is incredibly addicting to those cursed with addictive personalities. It has ruined a couple of my friends' lives and I have a family member who still struggles with it. Insensitive people with no knowledge of the nature of addiction would say "just stop gambling"; for these unfortunates, that's like telling a junkie "just stop using smack bro". I just stay away from it period. I realize not everyone has a problem with it but it's not worth it to me. This is very true, but this is also true about drugs(weed).. I dont now what your stance is one the matter but its pretty much the same thing. But this is off-topic so nvm. I have had a family member in deep dept to bad people b/c of gambling so i know just how bad it can go, but i still dont mind it being legal here.. It usually works out just fine. | ||
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CP-Jun
Australia278 Posts
On December 16 2011 09:07 m0ck wrote: Ah ok, I didn't know it was bo7. In that case, you wanna be counting to 4 maps, which is what player needs to win. If you decide to to play -1,5 on DRG, what you are saying is, that you think he will get the four maps (and thus win the maych) before MMA gets more than 2 maps. In other words, you think DRG is a strong favorite. The way to check it is this: With -1,5 DRG can at the max get: 4 maps (if he wins the match) - 1,5 map (from the handicap) = 2,5 maps. Remember, you want your player to have the most maps at the end of the match. That means, that MMA can at the most get 2 maps before DRG gets 4 maps. If MMA gets 3 or more maps, he will necessarily end up with a higher map-score than DRG: 3-4 maps (MMA) > 2,5 maps (DRG with handicap). It can be a bit tricky to wrap your head around at first, but after a short while it comes naturally. So to sum it up.. +1.5 = You bet on a player if you think a player is capable of winning 2 games out of 7. (If this is the case what about BO3 and BO5?) -1.5 = You bet on a player if you think that the opponent of the player you put money on cannot take 2 games out of 7. (The same question, how will this change if it's BO3 and BO5?) And why is it? 1.5 not 2? Sorry I am a noob at this betting thing and am just very curious before making a bet for the first time. Thank you | ||
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fuzzy_panda
New Zealand1681 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On December 16 2011 09:03 Gheed wrote: Gambling is allowed throughout the entire state of Nevada. In other states, beyond the Indian casinos, there are some municipalities where gambling has been allowed by local ordinances; some "riverboat casinos" have moved on land. There's also racetracks, OTBs, sports betting, lotteries, etc. Conservative states with anti-gambling laws eventually got tired of AC, Vegas, and the Indians getting all the tourist dollars, so now everyone wants in on taxing gambling revenue. I think it's also kinda allowed in the privacy of your own home. At least in CA, if only because the government can't really prove/monitor it unless they have a warrant. Gambling is like any other vice. If you can maintain self-control it's no worse than drinking, smoking, etc... If you can't then you need to stay away from it. Personally, I really only play poker with friends cause it's fun and I really don't mind losing couple bucks to good friends. | ||
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
PM Profile Blog Report Quote # -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gambling is incredibly addicting to those cursed with addictive personalities. It has ruined a couple of my friends' lives and I have a family member who still struggles with it. Insensitive people with no knowledge of the nature of addiction would say "just stop gambling"; for these unfortunates, that's like telling a junkie "just stop using smack bro". I just stay away from it period. I realize not everyone has a problem with it but it's not worth it to me. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is very true, but this is also true about drugs(weed).. I dont now what your stance is one the matter but its pretty much the same thing. But this is off-topic so nvm. Sports betting is not realy gambling, the people making the bets actually think they have an edge (and some actually do), This is one of the factors that makes sports betting verry attractive for manny people who wont bet in casinos because they dont like bad odds It is also a reason why sportsbetting (and also future trading/spread betting) can be verry adictive, the feeling you have an edge, (like some hard core gamblers wrongly have with slot machines, that they can "read" when its going to pay out) People can justify even huge losses for themselves based on "variance" | ||
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