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On December 15 2011 23:13 Teddyman wrote:
Oh look, the thread is filled with jealous people pasting stuff they read from free poker guides. Bankroll management might work like "don't bet more than 5% of your bankroll" but if you have $10k on a site that's not necessarily your bankroll. If you are ready to deposit $20k more if you lose that then put $1k on a match by all means. You can make money long-term as long as the odds are badly chosen like they are now. Example: you could get about 2.93 on MMA over MVP today. As long as the betting site stays profitable or making only a small loss they can keep offering bets. It brings people in to bet on the other sports which are more profitable for the booker.
Here's another rule that I recommend: If you bet against a terran in GSL, make sure you get really good odds.
Haha, so true.
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On December 15 2011 23:44 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
i started with 100€
was up about 250€ lost about 150€ then on that one dreamhack where elfi beat nada and the pros were complaining about too small desks etc. lot of upsets
and then i lost my last 100€ on qxc´s gsl allkill
yeah goodbye betting ^^
yeah exactly,
i'm not saying it's impossible to consistently make money at this (DarkForce is the best counter example [although he has his swings too ;o]) but if you aren't in some way deeply integrated into the scene, taking the time out of your day to pursue SC2 betting as a means of making money is just a terrible decision. If you want to get into sports betting pick something where you don't sometimes have to wait a WHOLE WEEK to get any games to bet on and where there's more than 1 sportsbook so you can at least compare lines and don't have to operate around the huge margins of just 1 sportsbook.
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I was waiting for the mafia to enter eSports gambling. That's done.
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On December 15 2011 22:28 Dariusz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 22:21 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On December 15 2011 21:38 darkness wrote:
3rd option: neither
Betting is too risky and possibly addictive. Dont be stupid and preachy plz. On December 15 2011 22:20 Dariusz wrote:
Untill there's a bonjwa in sc2 i will not bet a single penny on it.
Coming from a poker player. That makes no sense whatsoever? So does betting on sports as volatile as current SCII. The point is not to wait for bonjwa to bet on him but to wait for him as an indicator of stable game.
I bet (lol) that you can find real world sports that statistically is equal or more volatile than sc2 atm. Also consider that the win-% of certain sc2 players are much higher than you'd get for all teams in some leagues in real world sports. If you are smart about your bets I don't see how sc2 would be more "dangerous" to bet on than a lot of other stuff.
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I don't get the poll - it always depends most what are the given odds. I never really bet, but if I would, I could bet on something quite unlikely, if I think it's not as unlikely as the odds suggest. Value bets for the win, in the long run. Also, congrats man.
edit: basically, the poll should rather be worded as "who do you think will win", because the question who to bet on, depends entirely on the odds.
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Sucks that we cant use pinnacle sports here in the netherlands ;(
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On December 15 2011 23:55 Josri wrote:
Sucks that we cant use pinnacle sports here in the netherlands ;(
Really? Crap, was planning to make an account after reading this thread. I bet I could make a killing with this tbh.
Niche-sports are often great for betting, since the betting-lines tend to be less close to perfect. Early years of MMA were awesome and kickboxing can still provide great lines.
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The max bet in pinn is limited to $250 at a time and every bet of that size moves the line/odds substantially so if you bet 4 x $250 the odds on the player you are betting on is going to decrease alot and subsequently increase alot on the other player. So let me know when you bet and I will take a value bet on the other player 
Those asking if Pinnacle are safe to use need not worry. They are one biggest bookies in the world.
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a question that remains unanswered - how were your experiences cashing out? or anyone who has used pinnacle - cash out stories, let's hear 'em.
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On December 15 2011 21:49 TiTanIum_ wrote:
It´s a zero sum game. If you won 10k someone else lost 10k, and if everybody betted correctly you would have gotten nothing.
but he won so for him it makes sense right?
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On December 16 2011 00:23 ItchyLegs wrote:
a question that remains unanswered - how were your experiences cashing out? or anyone who has used pinnacle - cash out stories, let's hear 'em.
As I have just said they are totally safe. They are one of the industry leaders and the only problems you will have with cashing out is that you have to prove your ID i.e. you will have to send scans of a passport and cards you use there. I have used them for over 7 years, never had a problem or heard of anyone having a problem. I currently have about $50k there...
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I could never do this. I'm soooo terrible at predicting matches. I gave up on liquibet a long time ago...well, also because I don't want to jinx someone I like by voting for them. But that's just me.
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I wanted to try to bet a little bit of cash to make games a little more interersting (betting like 50$ a month or something like that, nothing significant), but unfortunately due to some stupid law you can't register on this site as a French citizen...
I could put a false country, but I guess it would prevent me from cashing out.
Does any french player know a good place where I could bet on esport?
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MMA man, 86% win rate against korean zergs, that sounds convincing to me!
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I won 1k playing slots on pinnaclesports.
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nothing to do with Esports, but my boss use to bet on NFL, NBA, MLB games all the time. He always made profit off of it, it was just a sideline cash making gig. The funny part about it is that teams WILL slack off on purpose at times. For example, if the lakers are whipping the new jersey nets ass they would start sending out their bench because they know they won the game. For people that are betting on that game though they risk losing the bet. Example: Lakers winning by 8 points. You can't win by 8 points if you got sorry players like Luke Walton on the court.
Never played the betting game with SC2, but are there situations where you bet like MVP beats Nestea 4-2 or something like that?
On December 15 2011 22:25 Telcontar wrote:
I hope you're able to keep a level head and know when to pull out .
Am I bad for finding that statement funny. 
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I don't get the handicap thing. This finals for an example.
MATCH HANDICAP MONEY LINE
Sat 12/17 2201 DongRaeGu +1.5 1.556 2.220
12:30 AM 2202 MMA -1.5 2.530 1.699
Sat 12/17 2201 DongRaeGu -1.5 2.930
12:30 AM 2202 MMA +1.5 1.435
How does handicap work? Can someone explain each handicap and pay out?
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those liquibet winners should bet on sc2, they are so good
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On December 16 2011 08:31 CryingPoo wrote:
I don't get the handicap thing. This finals for an example.
MATCH HANDICAP MONEY LINE
Sat 12/17 2201 DongRaeGu +1.5 1.556 2.220
12:30 AM 2202 MMA -1.5 2.530 1.699
Sat 12/17 2201 DongRaeGu -1.5 2.930
12:30 AM 2202 MMA +1.5 1.435
How does handicap work? Can someone explain each handicap and pay out?
Explained very simply:
You're looking at the number of maps won. You wan't your player to end up with the most maps.
That means that DRG +1,5 only needs to win 2 maps to have more maps than his opponent can have at the end of the match (in a bo5).
At the most, MMA will get 3 maps.
DRG will have 2 maps +1,5 maps from the handicap = 3,5.
Conversely, if you bet -1,5, DRG can at the most get 3 maps -1,5 maps = 1,5 maps.
In other words, MMA can only win 1 map before DRG gets to 3 maps, or he will end up with more maps than DRG at the end of the match.
I hope that makes sense.
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aren't you gonna go to jail now?
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