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How I made $10,000 in 2 weeks betting on SC2

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As with all forms of gambling, betting on progames will yield winners and losers. Don't forget that you could easily be that loser.
droppanda
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia176 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 13:47:55
December 15 2011 12:36 GMT
#1
Disclaimer - I don't condone reckless gambling so please only play with what you can afford to lose. Putting some money on sport can make the games that much more exciting, and you should really only be doing it for fun. I am lucky to have a full time job and am a successful at what I do. I place bets on the side and do not make a living off of this!

This is not my occupation nor to encourage people to be as reckless.
I'm only posting my experience, I have not had a negative year betting on starcraft, and I have been doing so since BW. But every bet I place is not done with the intention of making money as a priority. I watch the games live and enjoy having money on the players.


Some of you may or may not know that you can place bets on all the major SC2 tournaments and almost every GSL match at pinnaclesports.

This is the last 2 weeks of my pinnacle sports log showing every bet, loss, and win, I made since the start of this month (yes, sorry guys, I am the one skewing odds single handedly on some matches ;p )

http://www.filedropper.com/pinnaclesc2

Total profit $9,574.24
Initial deposit I started with this month was $1,000.
Since the beginning of the year however, I was down close to $3,000 (lost over $2,000 on that GSL final where MMA beat MVP...), so I am up about $7,000 for the year.

I have definitely improved my skills when it comes to betting on starcraft, although a lot of it common sense with a good serving of luck thrown in!

Some general rules I follow are:

Always bet against foreigners - Now, this is not to say that foreigners cannot beat Koreans, but it is a fact that they are way more inconsistent. They may be completely dominant in 1 tournament, and drop out in the first round for the next. For this reason alone, the odds on them are usually better than they should be - and make a good value bet.

Don't bet on every match - The ones you are not sure of, stay away from (or put small bets only). The ones that have extremely poor returns (1.25 and lower) you need to be careful of and I sometimes refrain from betting on those, unless you are positive it will be a one sided affair.

don't click below if you haven't watched blizzard cup semis
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The handicap bets are sometimes the best option. Instead of taking risks for small returns on the favorite, consider risking less money on the underdog by betting on the handicap (+1.5). Like can be seen on the game that ended just now in the blizzard cup between MMA and MVP. I thought it was a fairly safe bet at 1.8 that MMA could take two games off MVP.


Luck plays a big part - sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't, I know it's played a large part on my winning streak these past 2 weeks You may have noticed I bet against Naniwa to win (lucky for me, unlucky for the others). I am very against his actions, because I want starcraft to be taken seriously as a sport. Pinnacle has helped it move into a positive direction by offering odds on the games, but that is put at risk by things like what Naniwa did. Imagine how all those that put their money on Naniwa would have felt when they watched what he did.l.. in any case, there is enough talk about this as is so I will leave it there.

But regarding luck, You can see I lost some large amounts on the way up (marineking vs darkforce...), but I also made some pretty risky and large bets that I won. In the WCG, I would have continued to place bets on marineking and supernova, but luckily for me, pinnacle did not offer betting lines for the games they lost in their subsequent matchups! If they did, I would probably have lost between 1-2k there...

Don't look too much into statistics - Historical win statistics for a player don't mean much, their recent performance is much more telling. But players can rise and fall as fast as the tides (MC, Marineking, even MVP for a little bit). Also, map statistics can be taken with a grain of salt. Until there are hundreds of games played on them, the sample size is not good enough to really say much.

This next bit is important -
Lastly, only play with what you can afford to lose. I don't want to encourage anyone out there to gamble recklessly. If you aren't prepared to lose it, then don't place that bet!

I have been betting on SC since odds were offered at pinnacle and have lost my fair share! But it adds even more excitement to the game, and sometimes, I bet with my heart instead of my head. I don't mind though, I often place bets I know I will probably lose, but I did so because I wanted to cheer for a particular player. I've stopped doing that now and will bet against who I am rooting for. That way, it doesn't matter who wins, I either get some money or my player wins, either way I'm happy haha.

Wishing all my fellow punters luck for the new year, post if you have stories about your success with starcraft betting (or non-success if the case may be...).
I'll end with poll, although I reserve the right not to follow the outcome ;p

don't click below if you haven't watched blizzard cup semis

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Poll: Who should I put $1,000 on between MMA and DRG for the Blizzardcup?

MMA (161)
 
66%

DRG (84)
 
34%

245 total votes

Your vote: Who should I put $1,000 on between MMA and DRG for the Blizzardcup?

(Vote): MMA
(Vote): DRG




Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 12:38:27
December 15 2011 12:38 GMT
#2
3rd option: neither

Betting is too risky and possibly addictive.
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
December 15 2011 12:38 GMT
#3
gz
i made like 30€ cause all i bet is 3-4€ xD
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 15 2011 12:39 GMT
#4
On December 15 2011 21:38 darkness wrote:
3rd option: neither

Betting is too risky and possibly addictive.

What a party pooper
letmegopls
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
105 Posts
December 15 2011 12:39 GMT
#5
Another golden rule of starcraft betting: if 2 players of the same skill match and you want to bet, bet against the Z.
Cham
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
797 Posts
December 15 2011 12:40 GMT
#6
Thanks for spoiling last night's Blizzard cup results as I'm watching the vods :/
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 15 2011 12:40 GMT
#7
On December 15 2011 21:38 darkness wrote:
3rd option: neither

Betting is too risky and possibly addictive.


wow Buzzkill

MMA definitely.
WriterXiao8~~
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
December 15 2011 12:44 GMT
#8
On December 15 2011 21:40 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 21:38 darkness wrote:
3rd option: neither

Betting is too risky and possibly addictive.


wow Buzzkill

MMA definitely.


Yeah, better to be that type of person compared to the one who has negative income. That guy might have won 10k, but what about other people or his future bets?
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
December 15 2011 12:44 GMT
#9
I don't see the Artosis rule: if Artosis says someone is going to win, bet on his opponent.
Seriously, that guy is funny as hell but he has voodoo blood in his veins.

Your Opinion has been counted. Only 3 more Opinions needed for a reddit thread.
XenoX101
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia729 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 12:46:30
December 15 2011 12:44 GMT
#10
It's a rollercoaster, you can stop when you're at a peak but if you continue eventually you'll fall back down. Almost nobody has an infinite amount of luck, quit while you're ahead unless you know for absolute certain that you can consistently turn a profit, 99.999% of people can't.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
December 15 2011 12:46 GMT
#11
MMA is a slayers terran, says it all :D
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
NeoSlicerZ
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland470 Posts
December 15 2011 12:46 GMT
#12
Why don't some people understand bankroll management...
Arcanefrost
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium1257 Posts
December 15 2011 12:46 GMT
#13
You bet 2k on a sc match... unless you're already rich that's insane.
Valor is a poor substitute for numbers.
droppanda
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia176 Posts
December 15 2011 12:48 GMT
#14
On December 15 2011 21:39 HALFKNOT wrote:
Another golden rule of starcraft betting: if 2 players of the same skill match and you want to bet, bet against the Z.


This is actually very true.... and have noticed the trend.
It is way more often than not that even a slightly better zerg player can lose to terran. This may change in future, but is also a good thing to follow for now..
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
December 15 2011 12:48 GMT
#15
Wow, that is really nice man, great job! i wish i had the balls to do that
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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 15 2011 12:48 GMT
#16
On December 15 2011 21:44 darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 21:40 Kipsate wrote:
On December 15 2011 21:38 darkness wrote:
3rd option: neither

Betting is too risky and possibly addictive.


wow Buzzkill

MMA definitely.


Yeah, better to be that type of person compared to the one who has negative income. That guy might have won 10k, but what about other people or his future bets?

No one said you don't lose money betting. It's part of the game.

It still makes you a party pooper.
EvilSky
Profile Joined March 2006
Czech Republic548 Posts
December 15 2011 12:49 GMT
#17
Yes but how much did you lose?
Tanatos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States381 Posts
December 15 2011 12:49 GMT
#18
Is it legal to bet on progaming? Does gsl knows and recognizes betting as proper system? I highly doubt that they will like betting because of bad impression came from last year's incident.
werynais
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1780 Posts
December 15 2011 12:49 GMT
#19
Not bad but certainly not profitable in the long run.
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
December 15 2011 12:49 GMT
#20
It´s a zero sum game. If you won 10k someone else lost 10k, and if everybody betted correctly you would have gotten nothing.
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