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Son of Gnome
United States777 Posts
EDIT I WAS LOOKING AT BATMAN SERIES, BECAUSE REALLY LIKE HIM  what is a good series to start with, sorry for the caps earlier...EDIT 2: From what I have seen I kinda want a darker more mature comic. Edit 3 I am thinking about this http://www.amazon.com/Joker-Brian-Azzarello/dp/1401215815/ref=cm_rdp_product any comment?  | ||
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Saurabhinator
Australia347 Posts
I also recommend Y the Last Man. When I think about looking for more comics I usually take a browse through Eisner Award Winners. | ||
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impression
413 Posts
 If you're wondering what authority on comics i have, in my last year of high school I did a project on comic strip characters, and my main book of reference was 'Drawing Cutting Edge Comics' by Chris Hart, which subsequently got me hooked on the comics and artists he showcased in that book. Take a look, not entirely sure it will be in your taste though. | ||
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Son of Gnome
United States777 Posts
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Saurabhinator
Australia347 Posts
On November 17 2011 16:36 Son of Gnome wrote: any dark horse stuff you would recommend? For Dark Horse I would recommend Age of Reptiles My brother is into Conan, I don't like Conan as much as him so I personallly wouldn't recommend it but opinions differ. It's not bad. | ||
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impression
413 Posts
but that is just me. Take a look and see if anything catches your eye. I am more in it for the art than the story line to be fair.(although Chaos! stopped making comics a while ago, so it might be cheaper on the wallet, less books, higher quality) EDIT: I meant to mention Conan! | ||
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iamamish
United States76 Posts
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Saurabhinator
Australia347 Posts
On November 17 2011 16:46 A_Bandersnatch wrote: Here is a link to the DarkHorse site, they do things like the Mass Effect comic series which is pretty cool and very well drawn, and the Buffy series. Although I like Dark Horse stuff, i find Chaos! more exciting but that is just me. Take a look and see if anything catches your eye. I am more in it for the art than the story line to be fair.EDIT: I meant to mention Conan! Me too. The presentation has to be real nice for me to want to read it. One book which astounded me with the art was FVZA. It was very well drawn and had powerful colours. The story I would say is substantial. | ||
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Son of Gnome
United States777 Posts
On November 17 2011 17:01 iamamish wrote: i personally like about any comic marvel or dc....sadly havent broke into darkhorse or anyother though i have been flirting with magnus: robot hunter. but any of the main guys superman, batman, spiderman though my personal favorites are the flash, hulk, captain america, and recently teen titans. if you want something different and wacky try marvel zombies. are you looking at current issues or back issues? Current stuff, would be preferred but its not a big deal. | ||
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moktira
Ireland1548 Posts
Brief reviews and reasons for each choice below, I'll put minor spoilers in spoiler tags (these don't give away any twists or endings but mention a few details from the story). Overall I like darker ones too, I'm not a fan of Robin so I rather Batman working alone which is the case for all of these. Also I hate cross-overs, particularly the inclusion of Superman, really takes away from the believability of the Dark Knight. I'm also a sucker for artwork and the last three I mentioned all have really stunning visuals. Year One is very a good origin story for both Batman and Gordon, the Gordon scenes are great and his character is really well developed. The amount of injuries Batman receives that seem to have little effect on him is a bit ridiculous though. + Show Spoiler + He gets shot and stabbed but continues on way too many times. The Long Halloween is a very good story, really good ending, but Jeph Loeb seems to have this annoying habit of trying to squeeze as many villains as possible into his Batman stories, almost all the regular villains who appear in this are really unnecessary and take away from the main story in my opinion. It would have been a lot stronger a story if it had just focused on the gangster side of it. + Show Spoiler + Specifically if this just focused on Batman, Gordon and Dent vs the gangsters and Holiday it would have been a lot better, using the Mad Hatter, Scarecrow, Killer Croc, Solomon Grundy, Poison Ivy, the Riddler and even the Joker and Catwoman were all pointless and took away from the believability of it. Arkham Asylum is a strange one, people either love it or hate it, personally I think it's fantastic, particularly for the artwork, there's some really haunting and disturbing images. The 15th anniversary edition has Grant Morrison's script and notes at the end and it's worth reading those along side the main story just to see all the references and images that you would not necessarily spot otherwise. + Show Spoiler + The last image we see of Arkham's daughter is particularly haunting. Joker is very good, quite dark and gritty and probably the best portrayal of the Joker I've read in any of the comics/graphic novels, you go from being intrigued and curious about him to actually fearing what he's going to do next. Stunning artwork again too. (The Killing Joke is another popular Joker one but I hated that, the Joker is just shown a depraved sociopath and has got a really weak origin story in that one.)+ Show Spoiler + Batman does not feature much in this but it's interesting how the threat of him is always there and how you perceive that threat from the villain's side. Jekyll and Hyde is an unusual one, on first reading I thought it was great but when I re-read it recently I wasn't as taken with it, I'd recommend it anyway though. Again it's quite dark, gritty and gruesome, and gives a slightly different take on Two Face, or at least on his back story. Art work is really good again but changes half way through which takes away from it slightly I feel. Hope that helps. | ||
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Cuddle
Sweden1345 Posts
Both Fables and Sandman is darker and more mature. X-men is...x-men. | ||
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procyonlotor
Italy473 Posts
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chaosTheory_14cc
Canada1270 Posts
On November 17 2011 20:21 moktira wrote: For Batman I would recommend Year One by Frank Miller, The Long Halloween by Jeph Loeb, Arkham Asylum by Grant Morrison, Joker by Brian Azzarello and Jekyll and Hyde by Paul Jenkins. Brief reviews and reasons for each choice below, I'll put minor spoilers in spoiler tags (these don't give away any twists or endings but mention a few details from the story). Overall I like darker ones too, I'm not a fan of Robin so I rather Batman working alone which is the case for all of these. Also I hate cross-overs, particularly the inclusion of Superman, really takes away from the believability of the Dark Knight. I'm also a sucker for artwork and the last three I mentioned all have really stunning visuals. Year One is very a good origin story for both Batman and Gordon, the Gordon scenes are great and his character is really well developed. The amount of injuries Batman receives that seem to have little effect on him is a bit ridiculous though. + Show Spoiler + He gets shot and stabbed but continues on way too many times. The Long Halloween is a very good story, really good ending, but Jeph Loeb seems to have this annoying habit of trying to squeeze as many villains as possible into his Batman stories, almost all the regular villains who appear in this are really unnecessary and take away from the main story in my opinion. It would have been a lot stronger a story if it had just focused on the gangster side of it. + Show Spoiler + Specifically if this just focused on Batman, Gordon and Dent vs the gangsters and Holiday it would have been a lot better, using the Mad Hatter, Scarecrow, Killer Croc, Solomon Grundy, Poison Ivy, the Riddler and even the Joker and Catwoman were all pointless and took away from the believability of it. Arkham Asylum is a strange one, people either love it or hate it, personally I think it's fantastic, particularly for the artwork, there's some really haunting and disturbing images. The 15th anniversary edition has Grant Morrison's script and notes at the end and it's worth reading those along side the main story just to see all the references and images that you would not necessarily spot otherwise. + Show Spoiler + The last image we see of Arkham's daughter is particularly haunting. Joker is very good, quite dark and gritty and probably the best portrayal of the Joker I've read in any of the comics/graphic novels, you go from being intrigued and curious about him to actually fearing what he's going to do next. Stunning artwork again too. (The Killing Joke is another popular Joker one but I hated that, the Joker is just shown a depraved sociopath and has got a really weak origin story in that one.)+ Show Spoiler + Batman does not feature much in this but it's interesting how the threat of him is always there and how you perceive that threat from the villain's side. Jekyll and Hyde is an unusual one, on first reading I thought it was great but when I re-read it recently I wasn't as taken with it, I'd recommend it anyway though. Again it's quite dark, gritty and gruesome, and gives a slightly different take on Two Face, or at least on his back story. Art work is really good again but changes half way through which takes away from it slightly I feel. Hope that helps. Though I haven't read it myself, a friend of mine also recommended I read Hush, which I hear is also pretty good. | ||
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moktira
Ireland1548 Posts
On November 17 2011 23:56 chaosTheory_14cc wrote: Though I haven't read it myself, a friend of mine also recommended I read Hush, which I hear is also pretty good. I didn't like Hush now, there's too many characters, that's what I was referring to in my bit about The Long Halloween actually, Hush is also by Jeph Loeb and he tries to squeeze every single character possible in, not just every villain he could think of but it's also got Nightwing, Huntress and Superman (and probably more than I've forgotten). To me it just looked like he was throwing all these characters in to appeal all the fans of those specific characters. It's also got one of those annoying Batman vs Superman fights which are always popular. + Show Spoiler + That and at the end it gives the impression that Jason might not be dead which blew a lot of peoples minds. Killing Joke and Dark Knight Returns are two other very popular ones that I'm also not a fan of. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51104 Posts
oh and Killing Joke! | ||
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FryBender
United States290 Posts
On November 17 2011 20:21 moktira wrote: For Batman I would recommend Year One by Frank Miller, The Long Halloween by Jeph Loeb, Arkham Asylum by Grant Morrison, Joker by Brian Azzarello and Jekyll and Hyde by Paul Jenkins. Joker is very good, quite dark and gritty and probably the best portrayal of the Joker I've read in any of the comics/graphic novels, you go from being intrigued and curious about him to actually fearing what he's going to do next. Stunning artwork again too. (The Killing Joke is another popular Joker one but I hated that, the Joker is just shown a depraved sociopath and has got a really weak origin story in that one.)+ Show Spoiler + Batman does not feature much in this but it's interesting how the threat of him is always there and how you perceive that threat from the villain's side. Hope that helps. I have to disagree and add The Killing Joke to the list. It's dark gritty and disturbing and showcases the Joker/Batman relationship beautifully. Plus it's written by Alan Moore (one of my favorite writers) Also for non-canon I'm surprised no one mentioned The Dark Knight Returns (written by Fank Miller) yet. It is one of my favorite graphic novels and is considered by most to have redefined the genre | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51104 Posts
On November 18 2011 00:35 FryBender wrote: I have to disagree and add The Killing Joke to the list. It's dark gritty and disturbing and showcases the Joker/Batman relationship beautifully. Plus it's written by Alan Moore (one of my favorite writers) Also for non-canon I'm surprised no one mentioned The Dark Knight Returns (written by Fank Miller) yet. It is one of my favorite graphic novels and is considered by most to have redefined the genre moktira did mention it. TDKR is one of the best | ||
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FryBender
United States290 Posts
On November 18 2011 00:53 BLinD-RawR wrote: moktira did mention it. TDKR is one of the best Yikes so did procyonlotor. Well I get an F for reading posts before me. My apologies. | ||
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Son of Gnome
United States777 Posts
On November 17 2011 20:21 moktira wrote: For Batman I would recommend Year One by Frank Miller, The Long Halloween by Jeph Loeb, Arkham Asylum by Grant Morrison, Joker by Brian Azzarello and Jekyll and Hyde by Paul Jenkins. Brief reviews and reasons for each choice below, I'll put minor spoilers in spoiler tags (these don't give away any twists or endings but mention a few details from the story). Overall I like darker ones too, I'm not a fan of Robin so I rather Batman working alone which is the case for all of these. Also I hate cross-overs, particularly the inclusion of Superman, really takes away from the believability of the Dark Knight. I'm also a sucker for artwork and the last three I mentioned all have really stunning visuals. Year One is very a good origin story for both Batman and Gordon, the Gordon scenes are great and his character is really well developed. The amount of injuries Batman receives that seem to have little effect on him is a bit ridiculous though. + Show Spoiler + He gets shot and stabbed but continues on way too many times. The Long Halloween is a very good story, really good ending, but Jeph Loeb seems to have this annoying habit of trying to squeeze as many villains as possible into his Batman stories, almost all the regular villains who appear in this are really unnecessary and take away from the main story in my opinion. It would have been a lot stronger a story if it had just focused on the gangster side of it. + Show Spoiler + Specifically if this just focused on Batman, Gordon and Dent vs the gangsters and Holiday it would have been a lot better, using the Mad Hatter, Scarecrow, Killer Croc, Solomon Grundy, Poison Ivy, the Riddler and even the Joker and Catwoman were all pointless and took away from the believability of it. Arkham Asylum is a strange one, people either love it or hate it, personally I think it's fantastic, particularly for the artwork, there's some really haunting and disturbing images. The 15th anniversary edition has Grant Morrison's script and notes at the end and it's worth reading those along side the main story just to see all the references and images that you would not necessarily spot otherwise. + Show Spoiler + The last image we see of Arkham's daughter is particularly haunting. Joker is very good, quite dark and gritty and probably the best portrayal of the Joker I've read in any of the comics/graphic novels, you go from being intrigued and curious about him to actually fearing what he's going to do next. Stunning artwork again too. (The Killing Joke is another popular Joker one but I hated that, the Joker is just shown a depraved sociopath and has got a really weak origin story in that one.)+ Show Spoiler + Batman does not feature much in this but it's interesting how the threat of him is always there and how you perceive that threat from the villain's side. Jekyll and Hyde is an unusual one, on first reading I thought it was great but when I re-read it recently I wasn't as taken with it, I'd recommend it anyway though. Again it's quite dark, gritty and gruesome, and gives a slightly different take on Two Face, or at least on his back story. Art work is really good again but changes half way through which takes away from it slightly I feel. Hope that helps. Thanks for this! I think right now I am going to pick up joker and arkham asylum | ||
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