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MuffinFTW
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States235 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 03:39:43
November 05 2011 03:34 GMT
#1
Today, I decided to ladder, and encountered a wild zerg player. We started off the game with, "gl hf!'" and "u2". A little bit after he asked if he could pause really quick. I let him pause and he afked for about a minute or so. So, I alt-tabbed for a little bit, and when I checked back roughly 15 secs the game was running!?! I was shocked and asked, "Dude, wtf!? Why did u unpause randomly without asking? " He replied, "Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know. Don't worry it's just 10 seconds." I was pissed off, but decided to just let it go... Afterwards, when I scouted his position, I was even more shocked... He 6 pooled me... I saw the lings came out and only 5 drones mining. At this point, I'm beyond angry, I quickly tried to put down a forge and wall-off completely. But it was too late, the lings ran in, and raped me. I asked him, "wow... I paused for you and u just rudely unpaused to 6 pool me?" I got no reply and rage quit from the game. I messaged him angrily and then I saw, " The player is ignoring you." I basically deduced that this kid purposely paused and unpaused shortly after without asking to hopefully get a win with his 6 pool... Now pissed off, I'm ranting about this.

*
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 03:37:58
November 05 2011 03:37 GMT
#2
And what have you learned from this?

Do not trust random people.

Do not fuck around when you sit down to play an sc2 game.

sorry to say but this is your own fault. This guy just outplayed you.
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
Jaxtyk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States600 Posts
November 05 2011 03:37 GMT
#3
^Lessons from life
To tell the truth....I could beat anyone in the world.
Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
November 05 2011 03:38 GMT
#4
Don't take ladder games too seriously, you need to go in with the mindset that your lucky if you DON'T get cheesed/allin'd.
MuffinFTW
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States235 Posts
November 05 2011 03:39 GMT
#5
Well, I'd assume they'll be nice enough to ask if I'm ready before unpausing. But apparently not, I guess I'll just have to stay watching the screen if I ever pause for someone.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44276 Posts
November 05 2011 03:41 GMT
#6
On November 05 2011 12:37 SpoR wrote:
And what have you learned from this?

Do not trust random people.

Do not fuck around when you sit down to play an sc2 game.

sorry to say but this is your own fault. This guy just outplayed you.


I definitely agree that MuffinFTW should proceed with more caution from now on, but you can hardly say he got "outplayed". He got played, but not inside the game. lol.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
icydergosu
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
528 Posts
November 05 2011 03:41 GMT
#7
Thanks man, i will make good use of this special taktik.
I am the Punishment of God. If you had not commited great sins, god would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.
Carapas
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada242 Posts
November 05 2011 03:42 GMT
#8
On November 05 2011 12:39 MuffinFTW wrote:
Well, I'd assume they'll be nice enough to ask if I'm ready before unpausing. But apparently not, I guess I'll just have to stay watching the screen if I ever pause for someone.

If I ever learned something sailed on the interwebs sea, it is that you can't ever EVER trust anyone. When people get on computers they get a super ego boost and they become huge douches.
NrG.ZaM
Profile Joined March 2008
United States267 Posts
November 05 2011 03:42 GMT
#9
You learned the lesson we all learn eventually. Never alt+tab during a paused game if it's with someone you don't know and trust.
dmasterding
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States205 Posts
November 05 2011 03:49 GMT
#10
sorry for your loss - i know that if that happened to me id be furious T_T
No tears now, only dreams.
MiteCrow
Profile Joined June 2011
Ireland38 Posts
November 05 2011 03:53 GMT
#11
My first thoughts about this thread having read the title was that you were bashing player's who play world of warcraft hehe.
Back on topic now, the only thing the player in question did was unpause withought asking you, maybe he wasnt aware of proper etiquette? which seems to have been the case, 6 pools are cheesy but leggitimate
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
November 05 2011 03:56 GMT
#12
On November 05 2011 12:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 12:37 SpoR wrote:
And what have you learned from this?

Do not trust random people.

Do not fuck around when you sit down to play an sc2 game.

sorry to say but this is your own fault. This guy just outplayed you.


I definitely agree that MuffinFTW should proceed with more caution from now on, but you can hardly say he got "outplayed". He got played, but not inside the game. lol.


Exactly. He got outplayed.

Out - not in the game
played - pause tricked.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44276 Posts
November 05 2011 03:58 GMT
#13
On November 05 2011 12:56 Torenhire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 12:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 05 2011 12:37 SpoR wrote:
And what have you learned from this?

Do not trust random people.

Do not fuck around when you sit down to play an sc2 game.

sorry to say but this is your own fault. This guy just outplayed you.


I definitely agree that MuffinFTW should proceed with more caution from now on, but you can hardly say he got "outplayed". He got played, but not inside the game. lol.


Exactly. He got outplayed.

Out - not in the game
played - pause tricked.


I see what you did there.

Touche.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Sorter
Profile Joined July 2011
170 Posts
November 05 2011 04:00 GMT
#14
When someone pauses I never tab, too afraid they will try to pull this, haha. Just ignore people that act like this though, take the high road!
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
November 05 2011 04:06 GMT
#15
you did not treat the game seriously and got punished.
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1249 Posts
November 05 2011 04:06 GMT
#16
It is courtesy to wait, but if it gets to the point where you want to alt+tab, just resume the game. You are not obligated to wait that long, especially with no explanation.
BY.HERO FIGHTING!!!!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 05 2011 04:06 GMT
#17
That's so metagame.

But yeah, that sucks bro :x
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
November 05 2011 04:08 GMT
#18
Your opponent was a jerk for sure. But you live you learn. Sometimes being considerate is hard because it means you must wait and can't minimize due to the possibility of them unpausing. I think it's fine to say "ok i'll wait 3 minutes" or something and then unpause though. I personally don't like unpausing because ladder to me is just practice so it's a waste of time to devote time to a game and then just win it in a dumb manner.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
November 05 2011 04:13 GMT
#19
full screen windowed mode man.
You don't need your browser full screen.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 04:18:49
November 05 2011 04:17 GMT
#20
never let your opponent pause, or if they ask for a pause say "only 1 minute bitch"

generally my principle is that if you expect to be away from keyboard within the next hour then don't start the game, or if you have to leave a game unexpectedly then the reason must be more important than a fucking game. i have never paused when i needed to leave the computer even though it costed me games, and i rage a lot when my opponent pauses even for a second
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
November 05 2011 04:29 GMT
#21
shouldnt need to pause ever in a ladder game, fuck pausers
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
November 05 2011 04:38 GMT
#22
Take it with a laugh. all you lost was some ladder points and got a great story^^ I find what he did incredibly ballsy.. i couldn't make myself do something like that.
Snaiil
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden312 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 04:45:46
November 05 2011 04:45 GMT
#23
Douchebags on a competitive ladder? Hm, who would have thought.
Kid-Fox
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada400 Posts
November 05 2011 05:16 GMT
#24
Someone remind me again why we need to allow both players to unpause the game?

Also I've noticed zerg players have just the worst manners ever. Terrans might get pissed off and float buildings away, protosses might cry OPMATCHUP, but for some reason bad mannered zergs can be the most hateful, spiteful people you'll ever meet in an anonymous environment. It really takes away from some of the fun of laddering.

Just plan when ya play sc2 ladder. there are no breaks midgame T_T.
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2574 Posts
November 05 2011 05:25 GMT
#25
I've had this done to me many times.
Be thankful that drop hack from SC1 isn't in this game. If you think that having someone unpause on you is bad, think about having the drop screen pop up and the only way to exit the screen is to click "drop", drop drops you. I hate you drop hackers!

The bm on SC2 is unreal and like the saying goes... If you can't beat them.......... Join a group on facebook that hates them.
Wishing you well.
Snaiil
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden312 Posts
November 05 2011 05:38 GMT
#26
On November 05 2011 14:16 Kid-Fox wrote:
Someone remind me again why we need to allow both players to unpause the game?

Also I've noticed zerg players have just the worst manners ever. Terrans might get pissed off and float buildings away, protosses might cry OPMATCHUP, but for some reason bad mannered zergs can be the most hateful, spiteful people you'll ever meet in an anonymous environment. It really takes away from some of the fun of laddering.

Just plan when ya play sc2 ladder. there are no breaks midgame T_T.

In my experience zerg is the most frustrating race to play by faaaar, that's probably why. I've laddered about 250 wins with T and Z and about 500 as P, and Z is the only race that makes me want to just throw my mouse at the wall after games.
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
November 05 2011 05:52 GMT
#27
IMHO it doesn't really matter as your mmr and adjusted ladder points will tend towards your real skill in the long run, so losing a game to these kind of things won't be consequential. Try not to take these kinds of people and their antics too seriously.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
November 05 2011 06:09 GMT
#28
from?
Hi.
Pengu1n
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States552 Posts
November 05 2011 07:07 GMT
#29
and this is the reason i never let people pause, no matter how much they flame me after i say no
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
November 05 2011 07:18 GMT
#30
On November 05 2011 14:16 Kid-Fox wrote:
Someone remind me again why we need to allow both players to unpause the game?

Also I've noticed zerg players have just the worst manners ever. Terrans might get pissed off and float buildings away, protosses might cry OPMATCHUP, but for some reason bad mannered zergs can be the most hateful, spiteful people you'll ever meet in an anonymous environment. It really takes away from some of the fun of laddering.

Just plan when ya play sc2 ladder. there are no breaks midgame T_T.

That first part is a joke right? What would there be to stop me from pausing the game when I'm losing, walking away, and never coming back?
Son of Gnome
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States777 Posts
November 05 2011 08:03 GMT
#31
It is sad that people will go that low for a stupid win on ladder.
Whatever happens, happens
Son of Gnome
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States777 Posts
November 05 2011 08:04 GMT
#32
On November 05 2011 13:29 Divinek wrote:
shouldnt need to pause ever in a ladder game, fuck pausers

Uhh shit happens dude, u need to pause at times....
Whatever happens, happens
impression
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
413 Posts
November 05 2011 08:41 GMT
#33
Thank God for me the counter to a 6 pool is a 10 pool
I can't bring myself to get a pool earlier than 14, whatever matchup, and I feel terrible when I have to pause. Just last weekend I started a game and about 3 minutes in I sneezed and had to get up and get toilet paper from the other side of the room, but I still felt bad asking for a pause. So I didn't, I just ran as quickly as i could across the room and back, Unfortunately for me I was being 11/11 raxed. Oh well.
Off topic, I've won all my games today so far, including against protoss, my hardest MU. ^^ I had to share that.
행운을 빌어요 재미
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
November 05 2011 08:54 GMT
#34
you alt tabbed during a pause? tsk tsk, you will learn my friend.
Pillage
Profile Joined July 2011
United States804 Posts
November 05 2011 08:55 GMT
#35
On November 05 2011 12:34 MuffinFTW wrote:
Today, I decided to ladder, and encountered a wild zerg player. We started off the game with, "gl hf!'" and "u2". A little bit after he asked if he could pause really quick. I let him pause and he afked for about a minute or so. So, I alt-tabbed for a little bit, and when I checked back roughly 15 secs the game was running!?! I was shocked and asked, "Dude, wtf!? Why did u unpause randomly without asking? " He replied, "Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know. Don't worry it's just 10 seconds." I was pissed off, but decided to just let it go... Afterwards, when I scouted his position, I was even more shocked... He 6 pooled me... I saw the lings came out and only 5 drones mining. At this point, I'm beyond angry, I quickly tried to put down a forge and wall-off completely. But it was too late, the lings ran in, and raped me. I asked him, "wow... I paused for you and u just rudely unpaused to 6 pool me?" I got no reply and rage quit from the game. I messaged him angrily and then I saw, " The player is ignoring you." I basically deduced that this kid purposely paused and unpaused shortly after without asking to hopefully get a win with his 6 pool... Now pissed off, I'm ranting about this.


I'm by no means a nice guy on ladder but i'd never consider pulling anything as underhanded as this.
"Power has no limits." -Tiberius
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
November 05 2011 09:13 GMT
#36
On November 05 2011 13:29 Divinek wrote:
shouldnt need to pause ever in a ladder game, fuck pausers


Oh boy here we go...

On November 05 2011 15:09 d(O.o)a wrote:
from?


I see what you did there.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
impression
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
413 Posts
November 05 2011 09:16 GMT
#37
On November 05 2011 15:09 d(O.o)a wrote:
from?


OH YES! I hate that. Most annoying thing ever. Why is it relevant to our game? I usually ignore them, or type n/a. I once got 'asl' too. I frowned. Hard.
행운을 빌어요 재미
th2pun1sh3r
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States107 Posts
November 05 2011 09:30 GMT
#38
Hahaha -

So this guy faked a pause to get extra time and 6 pool you. LMFAO

I think this post made my day

btw what league are you in? ;p

great post
"Rank-1 Master Random Sc2 Player"
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
November 05 2011 10:39 GMT
#39
... why did you alt-tab?
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
PaPoolee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Arab Emirates660 Posts
November 05 2011 11:33 GMT
#40
Yeah some people are just assholes like that

On the bright side, once you get to top of the ladder (high master+) most people are really nice and respectful (at least from what i saw on EU), i once started a match vs some guy called TMCKrolu and it was PVP, We decided to play rock-paper-scissors to decide who wins, i won and he said gg and left :D! I start asking people for rock-paper-scissors every time i get a PvP!
cpneger
Profile Joined October 2011
9 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 11:51:12
November 05 2011 11:50 GMT
#41
-
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
November 05 2011 11:55 GMT
#42
--- Nuked ---
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 05 2011 12:20 GMT
#43
sounds like you got owned

apparently you can't trust random strangers who has no accountability, who could have known that
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
November 05 2011 12:28 GMT
#44
hah, Im going to try this ! looks like easy points.
but yea it sucks. I always just wait for 2min. its not that long
chingchong99
Profile Joined November 2011
Nauru64 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 13:26:11
November 05 2011 13:25 GMT
#45
Haha, thats hilarious. Gotta try this some time.
~900 pts masters toss @ EU | Looking for a practice partner, pm me!
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
November 05 2011 13:30 GMT
#46
don't let it get to you. it happens. I've lost games in much worse fashion in legitimate situations where I could have just played better. those are the ones that bother me.
LiquidDota Staff
MuffinFTW
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States235 Posts
November 05 2011 18:45 GMT
#47
On November 05 2011 18:30 th2pun1sh3r wrote:
Hahaha -

So this guy faked a pause to get extra time and 6 pool you. LMFAO

I think this post made my day

btw what league are you in? ;p

great post


I'm in Masters if that matters.


On November 05 2011 19:39 mizU wrote:
... why did you alt-tab?


Since he was taking a while, so I decided to load up some music.
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