"Moving" to another country

On September 29 2011 17:17 Robinsa wrote:
Taking a desktop with you on the plane sounds expensive. And yeah, dont put it in the ordinary luggage cuz it WILL break.

Also, have a ton of money ready and if youre moving there you need to get either a student or working visa. Unless you find yourself a korean wife withing the 90 days of your tourist visa.

If youre going to move I suggest you plan it carefully or have a huge reserv pile of money to pull from.

As for joining a korean pro team I think youre going to find it to be impossible unless you have some sort of pre arranged plan when you arrive.

On September 29 2011 17:25 desRow wrote:


obviously if I go it's because I have a room in a house haha =P I can always go to japan or w/e cheapest planeticket that gets you out of the country to "refresh" the visa

On September 29 2011 18:10 Sprungjeezy wrote:
I would consider leaving my desktop at home. Pro gaming houses should have several reliable computers available to you and the hassle getting it there will be there again when you want to come back. Perhaps consider buying a gaming laptop as well (definitely comes in handy for traveling gamers).

GL and hf!

On September 29 2011 18:27 desRow wrote:


obviously i am asking about the desktop because the people im talking with can't "lend" me a computer. the gaming laptop is atouchy subject because i want to keep streaming so i dont know if blowing 2k on a gaming laptop that can stream is the best to do and i dont know if my budget can allow it

On September 29 2011 18:38 Greg_J wrote:
Not sure I understand your proposal Do you have a confirmed position or are you just wanting to turn up at a pro house and see if they will have you? Language is a barrier if you can't speak Korean you're gonna need contacts and people to translate for you to negotiate contracts and finding somewhere to live. Korean rent normally requires a massive 'key' payment up front so unless its included in a contract its often hard to find accommodation.

Anyway when I came to Korea I brang almost nothing. Just one pretty small suitcase and my laptop. Koreas cheaper to buy most things than U.K (where I came from) and I didn't really have much good clothes of stuff so I thought I would just buy things when I got here and that worked out just fine.

Koreas really easy to find your way around and find everything you’re looking for. Foreigners often complain a lot but realistically Koreas probably one of the easiest countries in the world to adjust to moving too. A lot of people speak basic English, everyone I've met has been really friendly and there’s a big community of English speaking people in all but the remotest villages.

Oh yeah and computers. Don't bring one is my advice. PC bangs cost nothing and computers are definitely cheaper than U.K don't know about Canada. Do you have a degree. get a teaching job and you'll have tonnes of free time to still practice and make contacts that can help you adjust and also get a valuable sauce of income whilst you're trying to get things to take off.

I'm very sceptical off anyone just moving here and making it playing video games. I guarantee there's a thousand Koreans who all work harder than you here all ready trying to fill the spaces.

On September 29 2011 19:01 Greg_J wrote:
Oh right SC2, that means PC bangs would be pretty troublesome anyway and makes my advice there pretty bad.

Is there anything in particular you want to know about or anything you want ask people living in Korea?

If you're in a pro game house, then accommodations no problems, I'm sure they will have a computer for you (probably should check with them). So no problem there. I assume they will sort you out with a visa or you won't be allowed in. Ask as early as possible what information you need to get for a visa to minimise delays. You normally have to get a criminals record check which could take some time. but I don't know if that’s for all visas or just because I'm a teacher and work with kids.

Other than that I don't think you'll have any problem. Korea is a really fun place to be and Seoul is a great city to live in. I doubt you'll have any trouble with food or anything its mostly great and there's loads of western style places even if you don't like Korean food.

Obviously you're not gonna have much time to enjoy it though because you're gonna have to work you're ass of playing all day every day. Good luck! and if you do make it here give me a PM and if you get some free time I'll have a beer with you.

On September 29 2011 19:04 Velr wrote:
If you dissolve your PC i don't see a problem taking much of it in the normal luggage with you (aside from your Monitor?). Just stuff it out properly... It's a little gamble but should work out? A flight seriously can't be much bumpier than some drives to Lans I did in my past with my fresh driving licence...

On September 29 2011 17:17 Robinsa wrote:
Taking a desktop with you on the plane sounds expensive. And yeah, dont put it in the ordinary luggage cuz it WILL break.

Also, have a ton of money ready and if youre moving there you need to get either a student or working visa. Unless you find yourself a korean wife withing the 90 days of your tourist visa.

If youre going to move I suggest you plan it carefully or have a huge reserv pile of money to pull from.

As for joining a korean pro team I think youre going to find it to be impossible unless you have some sort of pre arranged plan when you arrive.

On September 29 2011 19:21 MrBitter wrote:
And on laptops: there are some really decent laptops that are SC2 and stream capable for less than $1k.

I bought this one before coming to Europe:
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/series_can.do?storeName=computer_store&v1=HP Pavilion&a1=Brand&landing=notebooks

Runs SC2 on medium settings and would be stream capable if I'd buy one more stick of RAM for it.

i7
4GB DDRAM
AMD 5750

And it was like $650.

On September 29 2011 22:27 dahornnn wrote:
I don't know what the fuss is about taking PC on a plane, ive done it a few times and it's never been a problem. My advice if you do need to take your pc is get a large suitcase that will fit everything you need and your pc, when you book a flight make sure you pay for extra luggage up to say30kg it will be probably about an extra $100-$150 (make sure you pack and weigh everything in advance so you can check how much your suitcase actually weighs) and pack everything tight so your pc has no room to move in the suitcase, while making sure the components inside your actual machine are screwed in tight and wont move.
If not, build a shuttle PC and dhl it shouldnt be more than 60-100$ imo
GL sir

On September 29 2011 22:55 Mattchew wrote:
I respectfully disagree with Mr. Bitter on the concerns of clothing. As you said you are bigger and that will make it harder to find fitting clothes. Also, Bitter has a gf with him and has time to shop for clothes. I would recommend bringing 7 - 10 outfits that you will practice in (in my case that would be sweatpants/gym shorts tee shirts and a couple sweatshirts) and maybe 4 complete outfits to go "out" in.

I think the main issue you should look at is money. I know we see a lot of other pro gamers going over and it seems to be no worry for them but most of them have a team that is financially supporting them. Would you be signing with this team (as in joining them?)

remember to bring a pillow and maybe a really warm blanket (i have one of those super soft one that i sleep under year round.

On September 30 2011 01:58 mizU wrote:
Stuff in Korea can be... weird. Odd things can be REALLY expensive here, but other things can be really cheap. It's really hard to tell. For some reason stick deodorant is really hard to find, but shampoo is reallyyyyy cheap. Food is really cheap here, so don't worry about that, and you don't need to bring that many clothes, but it is getting colder. Even if you are on the bigger side, Koreans do have an XL. There are big people here too. Don't be too worried about not being able to find clothes, Seoul should have what you need.

Are you going to come on time for the GSL qualifiers?

On September 30 2011 02:06 desRow wrote:


I doubt it but I plan to stay as long as I can so I would probably end up attending quite a few qualifiers (given there's 1 almost every month)