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desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
September 29 2011 08:07 GMT
#1
Sup TL,

I am a chobo when it comes to traveling and I have a couple questions.

I am looking to join a korean pro house and I was wondering how "moving" to another country works

And by that I mean how to take with you clothes/computer/ and eum yea thats it ? If you take your desktop with you as a luggage on the plane is it gonna get wrecked once you arrive ? Feel free to tell me your experience or let me know anything you know about the subject !

*
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Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
September 29 2011 08:17 GMT
#2
Taking a desktop with you on the plane sounds expensive. And yeah, dont put it in the ordinary luggage cuz it WILL break.

Also, have a ton of money ready and if youre moving there you need to get either a student or working visa. Unless you find yourself a korean wife withing the 90 days of your tourist visa.

If youre going to move I suggest you plan it carefully or have a huge reserv pile of money to pull from.

As for joining a korean pro team I think youre going to find it to be impossible unless you have some sort of pre arranged plan when you arrive.
4649!!
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
September 29 2011 08:25 GMT
#3
On September 29 2011 17:17 Robinsa wrote:
Taking a desktop with you on the plane sounds expensive. And yeah, dont put it in the ordinary luggage cuz it WILL break.

Also, have a ton of money ready and if youre moving there you need to get either a student or working visa. Unless you find yourself a korean wife withing the 90 days of your tourist visa.

If youre going to move I suggest you plan it carefully or have a huge reserv pile of money to pull from.

As for joining a korean pro team I think youre going to find it to be impossible unless you have some sort of pre arranged plan when you arrive.


obviously if I go it's because I have a room in a house haha =P I can always go to japan or w/e cheapest planeticket that gets you out of the country to "refresh" the visa
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Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 08:30:39
September 29 2011 08:29 GMT
#4
On September 29 2011 17:25 desRow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 17:17 Robinsa wrote:
Taking a desktop with you on the plane sounds expensive. And yeah, dont put it in the ordinary luggage cuz it WILL break.

Also, have a ton of money ready and if youre moving there you need to get either a student or working visa. Unless you find yourself a korean wife withing the 90 days of your tourist visa.

If youre going to move I suggest you plan it carefully or have a huge reserv pile of money to pull from.

As for joining a korean pro team I think youre going to find it to be impossible unless you have some sort of pre arranged plan when you arrive.


obviously if I go it's because I have a room in a house haha =P I can always go to japan or w/e cheapest planeticket that gets you out of the country to "refresh" the visa

It proboably will work the first time but be prepared that they are likely to eventually start asking questions.

Edit: Anyone know what kind of Via artosis and tasteless got ? I belive they have no univ degree so they shouldnt be eligable for working visa.

What about Naniwa and Sase ? Are they there on toursit visa ?
4649!!
ckolev
Profile Joined September 2009
51 Posts
September 29 2011 08:45 GMT
#5
The best way to move fragile stuff, when moving for a large period of time is to get it shipped by a international moving company. On my last travel from France to Spain, they actually destroyed my suitcase, I meat it was broken beyond repair. Good thing I had only clothes there. And when you try to find someone responsible, everyone is saying "not our fault, go to X..." and this happens with the X company as well. Also do not bring anything you can buy there. Just takes space.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
September 29 2011 08:47 GMT
#6
Visa is the most important. It sucks to be deported.

Transporting your desktop will almost cost you as much as buying a new one there. Transport your hard drive and it will be enough. Or you could transport components well packed individually like mobo + hd + gpu + ram. Then you only spend money for a box / power supply / monitor.

Anti-diarrhea medicine as the spicy food/street food will make your intestines flow like zerglings out of a nydus until you get used to it.
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Sprungjeezy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1313 Posts
September 29 2011 09:10 GMT
#7
I would consider leaving my desktop at home. Pro gaming houses should have several reliable computers available to you and the hassle getting it there will be there again when you want to come back. Perhaps consider buying a gaming laptop as well (definitely comes in handy for traveling gamers).

GL and hf!
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
September 29 2011 09:27 GMT
#8
On September 29 2011 18:10 Sprungjeezy wrote:
I would consider leaving my desktop at home. Pro gaming houses should have several reliable computers available to you and the hassle getting it there will be there again when you want to come back. Perhaps consider buying a gaming laptop as well (definitely comes in handy for traveling gamers).

GL and hf!


obviously i am asking about the desktop because the people im talking with can't "lend" me a computer. the gaming laptop is atouchy subject because i want to keep streaming so i dont know if blowing 2k on a gaming laptop that can stream is the best to do and i dont know if my budget can allow it
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Sata_
Profile Joined September 2011
Belgium82 Posts
September 29 2011 09:29 GMT
#9
aren't computers cheaper in korea?
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
September 29 2011 09:38 GMT
#10
Not sure I understand your proposal Do you have a confirmed position or are you just wanting to turn up at a pro house and see if they will have you? Language is a barrier if you can't speak Korean you're gonna need contacts and people to translate for you to negotiate contracts and finding somewhere to live. Korean rent normally requires a massive 'key' payment up front so unless its included in a contract its often hard to find accommodation.

Anyway when I came to Korea I brang almost nothing. Just one pretty small suitcase and my laptop. Koreas cheaper to buy most things than U.K (where I came from) and I didn't really have much good clothes of stuff so I thought I would just buy things when I got here and that worked out just fine.

Koreas really easy to find your way around and find everything you’re looking for. Foreigners often complain a lot but realistically Koreas probably one of the easiest countries in the world to adjust to moving too. A lot of people speak basic English, everyone I've met has been really friendly and there’s a big community of English speaking people in all but the remotest villages.

Oh yeah and computers. Don't bring one is my advice. PC bangs cost nothing and computers are definitely cheaper than U.K don't know about Canada. Do you have a degree. get a teaching job and you'll have tonnes of free time to still practice and make contacts that can help you adjust and also get a valuable sauce of income whilst you're trying to get things to take off.

I'm very sceptical off anyone just moving here and making it playing video games. I guarantee there's a thousand Koreans who all work harder than you here all ready trying to fill the spaces.
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
September 29 2011 09:40 GMT
#11
On September 29 2011 18:27 desRow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 18:10 Sprungjeezy wrote:
I would consider leaving my desktop at home. Pro gaming houses should have several reliable computers available to you and the hassle getting it there will be there again when you want to come back. Perhaps consider buying a gaming laptop as well (definitely comes in handy for traveling gamers).

GL and hf!


obviously i am asking about the desktop because the people im talking with can't "lend" me a computer. the gaming laptop is atouchy subject because i want to keep streaming so i dont know if blowing 2k on a gaming laptop that can stream is the best to do and i dont know if my budget can allow it


I'm as clueless as you, but why not try to look for a shipping service? Putting your core tech in the airplane luggage is a no-no; just pack your mouse/keyboard/peripherals and take it along with you.

If you have a laptop just bring it over to tide you over the few days it takes for your desktop to arrive.
Remember to ask for the address of the team house.
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
September 29 2011 09:46 GMT
#12
On September 29 2011 18:38 Greg_J wrote:
Not sure I understand your proposal Do you have a confirmed position or are you just wanting to turn up at a pro house and see if they will have you? Language is a barrier if you can't speak Korean you're gonna need contacts and people to translate for you to negotiate contracts and finding somewhere to live. Korean rent normally requires a massive 'key' payment up front so unless its included in a contract its often hard to find accommodation.

Anyway when I came to Korea I brang almost nothing. Just one pretty small suitcase and my laptop. Koreas cheaper to buy most things than U.K (where I came from) and I didn't really have much good clothes of stuff so I thought I would just buy things when I got here and that worked out just fine.

Koreas really easy to find your way around and find everything you’re looking for. Foreigners often complain a lot but realistically Koreas probably one of the easiest countries in the world to adjust to moving too. A lot of people speak basic English, everyone I've met has been really friendly and there’s a big community of English speaking people in all but the remotest villages.

Oh yeah and computers. Don't bring one is my advice. PC bangs cost nothing and computers are definitely cheaper than U.K don't know about Canada. Do you have a degree. get a teaching job and you'll have tonnes of free time to still practice and make contacts that can help you adjust and also get a valuable sauce of income whilst you're trying to get things to take off.

I'm very sceptical off anyone just moving here and making it playing video games. I guarantee there's a thousand Koreans who all work harder than you here all ready trying to fill the spaces.


I potentially have a spot so I'm trying to make sure I know how to do everything so if it's confirmed and I get the OK I don't figure out everything in 1 week like a headless chicken.

Realistically, I'm not moving there forever but I will stay as long as I can and as long as sc2 is sustainable for me to "live" there.
If I go I would be in a pro gaming house so PC bang is definitely not worth it.
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Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
September 29 2011 10:01 GMT
#13
Oh right SC2, that means PC bangs would be pretty troublesome anyway and makes my advice there pretty bad.

Is there anything in particular you want to know about or anything you want ask people living in Korea?

If you're in a pro game house, then accommodations no problems, I'm sure they will have a computer for you (probably should check with them). So no problem there. I assume they will sort you out with a visa or you won't be allowed in. Ask as early as possible what information you need to get for a visa to minimise delays. You normally have to get a criminals record check which could take some time. but I don't know if that’s for all visas or just because I'm a teacher and work with kids.

Other than that I don't think you'll have any problem. Korea is a really fun place to be and Seoul is a great city to live in. I doubt you'll have any trouble with food or anything its mostly great and there's loads of western style places even if you don't like Korean food.

Obviously you're not gonna have much time to enjoy it though because you're gonna have to work you're ass of playing all day every day. Good luck! and if you do make it here give me a PM and if you get some free time I'll have a beer with you.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10823 Posts
September 29 2011 10:04 GMT
#14
If you dissolve your PC i don't see a problem taking much of it in the normal luggage with you (aside from your Monitor?). Just stuff it out properly... It's a little gamble but should work out? A flight seriously can't be much bumpier than some drives to Lans I did in my past with my fresh driving licence...
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
September 29 2011 10:12 GMT
#15
On September 29 2011 19:01 Greg_J wrote:
Oh right SC2, that means PC bangs would be pretty troublesome anyway and makes my advice there pretty bad.

Is there anything in particular you want to know about or anything you want ask people living in Korea?

If you're in a pro game house, then accommodations no problems, I'm sure they will have a computer for you (probably should check with them). So no problem there. I assume they will sort you out with a visa or you won't be allowed in. Ask as early as possible what information you need to get for a visa to minimise delays. You normally have to get a criminals record check which could take some time. but I don't know if that’s for all visas or just because I'm a teacher and work with kids.

Other than that I don't think you'll have any problem. Korea is a really fun place to be and Seoul is a great city to live in. I doubt you'll have any trouble with food or anything its mostly great and there's loads of western style places even if you don't like Korean food.

Obviously you're not gonna have much time to enjoy it though because you're gonna have to work you're ass of playing all day every day. Good luck! and if you do make it here give me a PM and if you get some free time I'll have a beer with you.


the reason im asking about the desktop is because the people im talking with right now/the opportunity i have would not have a computer to lend me

yea if i do make it a beer sounds fun =)
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desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
September 29 2011 10:13 GMT
#16
On September 29 2011 19:04 Velr wrote:
If you dissolve your PC i don't see a problem taking much of it in the normal luggage with you (aside from your Monitor?). Just stuff it out properly... It's a little gamble but should work out? A flight seriously can't be much bumpier than some drives to Lans I did in my past with my fresh driving licence...


one of the option ive been told was to ship my clothes and take the PC with me on the plane but can't do both because if you go over 20kg on the plane, the airplane company is gonna charge you a fuck ton of money. I was told there's an option you can choose with certain airline companys where they take extra care of your luggage aka fragile shipping
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MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 10:16:28
September 29 2011 10:16 GMT
#17
Sup Des,

Shipping a PC is a tedious, time consuming, and expensive project. I don't know what your financial situation is, but I would seriously suggest that you look into what it costs to just buy a new PC wherever you're going.

I've got a kickass PC back home. I love it so much, and I miss it soooo much, but the fact of the matter is, for about 300 Euros, I'm able to buy a decent, stream and Starcraft capable PC here in Europe, and at the end of the day, that's actually cheaper than shipping my PC from home. (especially when you consider that I'll also have to ship it back one day)

You also have to remember that you'll likely have to change the power supply on your PC so that it will work in whatever kind of outlets they have in Korea. (adapters work too)

And under no circumstance do you want to take your PC on the plane with you. If you do decide to ship it, there are companies that handle that kind of thing specifically. Use them. They'll take care of your PC.


In regards to just moving to another country:

Most country will allow you to enter and stay for about 90 days on just your passport. I'm not sure how different Korea is on this, so that will take some research on your end.

If you plan on staying past 90 days, you'll have to get a Visa. This can be a bit more complicated, as you'll need some proof of employment before they will grant you a Visa. That means contracts, office contacts, etc.

The good news is (and again, I'm not sure about Korea exactly) you can handle a lot of this during that 90 days that you're granted on a passport.

In terms of clothes, and other stuff, the best advice I can give you is to pack light.

I brought like 4 pairs of jeans, 4 button-down shirts, a few t-shirts, and some underwear.

Having less luggage is nice, but you also acquire new shit at such a rapid pace....

When I got to Germany, I stayed in the Type 2 team house for a month before moving in with Rotterdam.

I arrived with 2 luggage rolly bags, 2 backpacks, and a shoulder bag.

When I moved to Rotti's place, I literally had more stuff than I could pack. (I blame my shop-a-holic girlfriend).

But seriously, when you're abroad, you pick up things like t-shirts, and other random things all the time.

Good luck in your travels, man. I think its really awesome that you're looking to live abroad. It's a great experience, and is something that everyone should do at some point in their lives.
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
September 29 2011 10:21 GMT
#18
And on laptops: there are some really decent laptops that are SC2 and stream capable for less than $1k.

I bought this one before coming to Europe:
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/series_can.do?storeName=computer_store&v1=HP Pavilion&a1=Brand&landing=notebooks

Runs SC2 on medium settings and would be stream capable if I'd buy one more stick of RAM for it.

i7
4GB DDRAM
AMD 5750

And it was like $650.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
September 29 2011 10:26 GMT
#19
On September 29 2011 17:17 Robinsa wrote:
Taking a desktop with you on the plane sounds expensive. And yeah, dont put it in the ordinary luggage cuz it WILL break.

Also, have a ton of money ready and if youre moving there you need to get either a student or working visa. Unless you find yourself a korean wife withing the 90 days of your tourist visa.

If youre going to move I suggest you plan it carefully or have a huge reserv pile of money to pull from.

As for joining a korean pro team I think youre going to find it to be impossible unless you have some sort of pre arranged plan when you arrive.


Lucky Canucks get 180 day tourist visa in Korea.
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
September 29 2011 10:28 GMT
#20
On September 29 2011 19:21 MrBitter wrote:
And on laptops: there are some really decent laptops that are SC2 and stream capable for less than $1k.

I bought this one before coming to Europe:
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/series_can.do?storeName=computer_store&v1=HP Pavilion&a1=Brand&landing=notebooks

Runs SC2 on medium settings and would be stream capable if I'd buy one more stick of RAM for it.

i7
4GB DDRAM
AMD 5750

And it was like $650.


wow definitely interesting thanks for all the comments/advice. Unfortunately buying clothes for my size is not an ez thing T_T so I might just end up shipping clothes over there depending on how much it cost.

oh and im glad your having fun in europe ^^
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