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ulan-bat
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
China403 Posts
September 29 2011 10:30 GMT
#21
As long as you're legally allowed to stay (visa + passport not expiring too soon) and have decent insurance coverage (both medical and credit card loss etc) you'll be just fine ;-)
Big city + developped country = EZPZ.
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deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 11:48:34
September 29 2011 11:46 GMT
#22
I've lived abroad a couple of times. Taking a Desktop computer abroad is going to be a pain in the ass since you can't really take it on a plane with you, so you'll be looking at shipping it, You can call your post office or whatever to investigate the costs there. Obviously buying a computer abroad is an option, but you know it'll probably have an operating system in Korean so that might be an issue.

Other than that, take enough clothes because asian countries don't have a lot of big clothes stores. (I have big feet such that I could never buy shoes).

I got a good peice of advice that was if you have money and your passport you don't need to worry too much about anything else.
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 11:53:09
September 29 2011 11:51 GMT
#23
I don't recommend the tourist visa, because it's very prohibitive both in terms of duration and what you are legally allowed to do while you are in SK.

Apply for a working holiday visa, the process is incredibly simple given that you are a Canadian citizen, and you can legally stay and work in Korea for up to a year (6+6 months).

Be prepared for the culture shock. Your first weeks can and, most likely, will be extremely stressful, both physically and mentally. Regarding the computer, it's not worth it to fly it over.

^ re: above.

Oh yea, shoes. If your size is 10.5 or above (44), good luck finding a pair of shoes. Clothes should be okay, assuming you aren't XL+ in Canada. Remember to move up at least one size.
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dahornnn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom395 Posts
September 29 2011 13:27 GMT
#24
I don't know what the fuss is about taking PC on a plane, ive done it a few times and it's never been a problem. My advice if you do need to take your pc is get a large suitcase that will fit everything you need and your pc, when you book a flight make sure you pay for extra luggage up to say30kg it will be probably about an extra $100-$150 (make sure you pack and weigh everything in advance so you can check how much your suitcase actually weighs) and pack everything tight so your pc has no room to move in the suitcase, while making sure the components inside your actual machine are screwed in tight and wont move.
If not, build a shuttle PC and dhl it shouldnt be more than 60-100$ imo
GL sir
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
September 29 2011 13:34 GMT
#25
On September 29 2011 22:27 dahornnn wrote:
I don't know what the fuss is about taking PC on a plane, ive done it a few times and it's never been a problem. My advice if you do need to take your pc is get a large suitcase that will fit everything you need and your pc, when you book a flight make sure you pay for extra luggage up to say30kg it will be probably about an extra $100-$150 (make sure you pack and weigh everything in advance so you can check how much your suitcase actually weighs) and pack everything tight so your pc has no room to move in the suitcase, while making sure the components inside your actual machine are screwed in tight and wont move.
If not, build a shuttle PC and dhl it shouldnt be more than 60-100$ imo
GL sir


sounds like a affordable idea thanks everyone who posted so far I didn't have time to google because i wanted to start practicing but ill google it later if i come up with the perfect plan ill let u guys know
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 29 2011 13:55 GMT
#26
I respectfully disagree with Mr. Bitter on the concerns of clothing. As you said you are bigger and that will make it harder to find fitting clothes. Also, Bitter has a gf with him and has time to shop for clothes. I would recommend bringing 7 - 10 outfits that you will practice in (in my case that would be sweatpants/gym shorts tee shirts and a couple sweatshirts) and maybe 4 complete outfits to go "out" in.

I think the main issue you should look at is money. I know we see a lot of other pro gamers going over and it seems to be no worry for them but most of them have a team that is financially supporting them. Would you be signing with this team (as in joining them?)

remember to bring a pillow and maybe a really warm blanket (i have one of those super soft one that i sleep under year round.
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Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
September 29 2011 14:15 GMT
#27
u can take all your components out of a case and just buy the case when u get to korea.
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Florix
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany116 Posts
September 29 2011 14:33 GMT
#28
just buy a gaming laptop at your place or in korea.
7P inc.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
September 29 2011 14:34 GMT
#29
You can get a streaming capable laptop for like 800-1000 dollars if you can get a good deal on like newegg or something.

And yeah Korean clothing is tiny lol, even their sizes that are supposed to be the same as ours is always a size or two smaller. You're best off buying your clothes any time you're back in the states or something. Shipping is pretty expensive as well I'd imagine.
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Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
September 29 2011 16:36 GMT
#30
Hopefully this works out well for you man. We need more canadians representing in korea!

But yeah, I don't think that taking a computer on a plane should be that big of an issue. The extraa weight cost could be an issue, but if you pack it carefully it should be fine. Personally I'd pack most of the parts individually, to be ultra-safe, but I'm sure that if you packed the case carefully it shouldn't take any damage. Those things are generally pretty tough.
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
September 29 2011 16:48 GMT
#31
When I moved from the California to Finland, I took my PC apart and put all the parts in boxes. Much easier to transport and I just purchased a new case at a used PC shop. Also, I managed to transport two 24" monitors (remove the stands) in a hard shell suitcase (used clothes to stuff them - TSA actually had to ask me to repack it b/c they couldn't get it to fit right lol).

It kind of depends on how much money you have to spend. If you can afford to buy a new computer you obviously don't risk breaking/losing it in transit. However, if you want to save money it's probably worth the risk of packing it and stuff (I think I paid around $50 for the extra suitcase with two monitors - definitely cheaper than buying a single new one). Also, MOST power supplies will work in 110-240 plugs (some have a switch, some will work regardless but do some research on that).

My wife and I really didn't take much else besides our clothes, PCs (2x 24" monitors, 2 laptops and one desktop - the case). We've purchased a lot of things used and some furniture from IKEA but you might be surprised how little you can live with (and how irritating it is when that one small thing that you never used would totally be useful).

Be adventurous and see as much of the world as you can. You only have one life, Live!
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10924 Posts
September 29 2011 16:50 GMT
#32
On September 29 2011 22:55 Mattchew wrote:
I respectfully disagree with Mr. Bitter on the concerns of clothing. As you said you are bigger and that will make it harder to find fitting clothes. Also, Bitter has a gf with him and has time to shop for clothes. I would recommend bringing 7 - 10 outfits that you will practice in (in my case that would be sweatpants/gym shorts tee shirts and a couple sweatshirts) and maybe 4 complete outfits to go "out" in.

I think the main issue you should look at is money. I know we see a lot of other pro gamers going over and it seems to be no worry for them but most of them have a team that is financially supporting them. Would you be signing with this team (as in joining them?)

remember to bring a pillow and maybe a really warm blanket (i have one of those super soft one that i sleep under year round.


7-10 outfits?

Lol?

Wtf, are you modelling or something? A blanket? A pillow? wtf :D

Sorry but this is the strangest advice on "travelling/moving" i have ever read .
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
September 29 2011 16:58 GMT
#33
Stuff in Korea can be... weird. Odd things can be REALLY expensive here, but other things can be really cheap. It's really hard to tell. For some reason stick deodorant is really hard to find, but shampoo is reallyyyyy cheap. Food is really cheap here, so don't worry about that, and you don't need to bring that many clothes, but it is getting colder. Even if you are on the bigger side, Koreans do have an XL. There are big people here too. Don't be too worried about not being able to find clothes, Seoul should have what you need.

Are you going to come on time for the GSL qualifiers?
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 29 2011 17:02 GMT
#34
first of all i just wana say that i dont like you but i will help you out bc you play protoss and your sven in dota2 is not too horrible.

First of: you have to consider how long will you stay in korea. If its anything less than 4months, just consider getting a 800$ laptop and use GOMTV gaming house desktop and such. If its more than 4 months, you should pack what ever you have and bring it with you. Dont even think about streaming yet since the latency will be very diff plus you are sharing house with other people who need good connection.

You have to consider to bring the entire desktop or just the box, monitor should be cheap/provided by gom. Worst case scenario you could buy a used chinese one for a cheap price. have a seperate luggage for your box and make sure they got all the protections option check, especially if you are using liquid cooler.

Most of the time luggage should be safe on the plane but the part where they put it on the plane and take it out could be a little rough. Clothing dont bother bringing too much, stuff the winter stuff around the desktop case to make sure they have some force reduction. You only need stuff enough for a weeks, a pair of shoes and a cap ~_~... Pillow if you must since that what artosis asked Terran to bring.

Now once we get travel stuff out, there are things u need to know: what ever you prepare should be depend on the team that accept you, each team will have a different facility for your training therefore its best to ask them before hand. Its freaking damn hard for a korean team to accept non-korean living in their team house over korean. Im pretty sure Terran has played several recruitment matches for several teams before he went to korea. They really need to accept you first. And with your skill level right now, its gona be pretty damn hard journey. Try to start with gg-ing EVERYGAME before you left is a good way to start, Korean respect that and think its important in manner kinda stuff.

While language might not be a problem, food could be a huge trouble if you have not travel a lot. Korean food has a special taste to it compare to other asian foods that you can find around NA (Pho, sushi, chinese etc). Most people back up plan are korean BBQ or pizza but once you start living in a korean progaming house, you will have to eat their food and get use to it eventually.

Hmm, just read all the comments:
dont underestimate PCBang, while its the same if worse than a progaming house, thats where you could meet up people from other team and learn some gaming culture. Pretty sure HuK stream a tons from PC bang instead of oGs house in the past. People who have team kill match also practice at PC bang etc... They are really cheap and is a good solution for not bringing your PC.

if you planning on staying in korea, consider VISA as a must. It will give you much better access to the legal system around(signing house contract etc), much better to maneuver. Just start with a travel one, pretty sure you can apply for a working visa once you have a fulltime job with stable salary and such(artosis+tasteless).

DO NOT BUY HP LAPTOP!!!!!! get asus, i7 4gb ram 1.5 gb graphic for $800~900 CND canadacomputer walk-in zzzz...
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mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
September 29 2011 17:04 GMT
#35
People who think the lag is ridiculous have not played in Korea. It's fine. Almost better than when I was back home in Hawaii. You can stream and play fine to the NA server assuming your internet is at least competent.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 17:07:52
September 29 2011 17:06 GMT
#36
On September 30 2011 01:58 mizU wrote:
Stuff in Korea can be... weird. Odd things can be REALLY expensive here, but other things can be really cheap. It's really hard to tell. For some reason stick deodorant is really hard to find, but shampoo is reallyyyyy cheap. Food is really cheap here, so don't worry about that, and you don't need to bring that many clothes, but it is getting colder. Even if you are on the bigger side, Koreans do have an XL. There are big people here too. Don't be too worried about not being able to find clothes, Seoul should have what you need.

Are you going to come on time for the GSL qualifiers?


I doubt it but I plan to stay as long as I can so I would probably end up attending quite a few qualifiers (given there's 1 almost every month)


and for the guy mentioning gom every few paragraph, I am not going to the gom house =P
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mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
September 29 2011 17:07 GMT
#37
On September 30 2011 02:06 desRow wrote:
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On September 30 2011 01:58 mizU wrote:
Stuff in Korea can be... weird. Odd things can be REALLY expensive here, but other things can be really cheap. It's really hard to tell. For some reason stick deodorant is really hard to find, but shampoo is reallyyyyy cheap. Food is really cheap here, so don't worry about that, and you don't need to bring that many clothes, but it is getting colder. Even if you are on the bigger side, Koreans do have an XL. There are big people here too. Don't be too worried about not being able to find clothes, Seoul should have what you need.

Are you going to come on time for the GSL qualifiers?


I doubt it but I plan to stay as long as I can so I would probably end up attending quite a few qualifiers (given there's 1 almost every month)




If you're going to be here in Nov, I'll see you at the qualifiers!~
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
September 30 2011 05:38 GMT
#38
Does anyone know if you can rebuild a PC into a shuttle, i've been told putting a shuttle into a big suitcase and put alot of clothes around it is one of the easiest option
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Kreig
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany79 Posts
September 30 2011 12:40 GMT
#39
Do you have an adress where you could mail your stuff to?
I'd probably disassemble my desktop pc put the separate parts in antistatic sleeves and send it in a cushioned package to the location where I move to.
Taking your whole pc as luggage with you is probably a bad idea, I had loose contacts in my pc simply from driving it to a nearby LAN
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