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Shamrock_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 17:50:05
August 28 2011 16:20 GMT
#1
I've always considered myself to be three things, in this order:
1. A writer,
2. A gamer,
3. Alcoholic.

I write for a living and I've been a gamer for as long as I can remember. The first video game I ever owned was Street Fighter and that shit was crazy good. I was only about seven years old at the time but just the idea of video games amazed me and I always thought they'd play a major role in my life.

Years later, cue age 14ish, I bought World of Warcraft. This put me in contact with other gamers, and it also got me active on the internet (and the internet led me to porn which led me to things which I cannot unsee) and I always found myself pressed up against this idea that I should "get a life". I had no idea what the fuck it meant. When I say I was a gamer, I mean stereotypical gamer. I would play World of Warcraft all day and all night, every free moment I had. I would fake sick, I would spend as little time with my family as possible and I barely had friends. I didn't really need them.

A little over a year later I kind of started to realize that the common ideology was that the way to live your life (and what people mean by "get a life" or "stop being such a nerd") is by going to clubs and meeting girls. And drinking. So I figured I'd give it a shot. I wasn't happy with the way my life was going. It was kind of like waking up one day and realizing you've done nothing for the last year and a half. It was fucking depressing. My e-friends quit World of Warcraft around the same time, all of us too afraid to check /played.

I don't really know how to describe what happened next. I was a fish out of water. I didn't know how to deal with the "outside" world. I was good at World of Warcraft, damn good, but all these things like talking to people, carrying yourself in a club, drinking, none of it made sense to me. The first guy I went out with was a douchebag. He always made himself out to be a player when he had no idea what he was doing. He was also a major wuss.

We were driving to a club and he'd just...keep driving, unable to find anything he'd want to do. When we eventually did he'd just text on his cellphone and if I asked if we were gonna talk to girls or be social he'd just say "All the girls here are ugly, hey." Fuck that guy.

Anyways, first few nights out with him were actually a major blow to me. I figured that video games were just as pointless as the whole teen-partying scene anyways and I wasn't wasting time. Gaming was the lesser of two evils, so to speak. I picked up World of Warcraft again, playing slowly at first before I picked up the pace. Three months later I decided that it had gotten out of hand and it was time to give a social life another shot.

It was a friend's birthday party. We went to a club. I danced. I didn't know how to dance and I was too scared to drink so it sucked, but it built up from there, and I had to do it on my own. I didn't have any friends who could teach me how to talk to people--not only girls, just meeting people you didn't know before. I didn't have friends who were willing to back me up if someone tried giving me trouble, so I took it all on my shoulders. I messed up a lot of conversations. I used some of the most ridiculously nerdy lines ever on women I was trying to hit on -- I should also mention at this point that I was 16 and in the height of puberty and had a face ravaged with acne, meaning I had to work twice as hard for people to take me seriously.

But I did it and I was really proud. I built up a pool of really good friends. I met really nice people, and I got good at talking. The point of sociality for me wasn't just meeting girls, it was the ability to just, talk and be myself. It was a huge learning curve as well, realizing that gay/cock jokes aren't as popular in real life as they are on the internet.

After that I was home-free. Going out to parties and clubs every weekend, drinking like a tank. I traded one addiction for another. I was off WoW but I couldn't go a week without a drink. Another year went by and I finally realized it, and this is what I mean by this whole post.

I'd become social. I was good at it. I was invited to birthdays or parties every night I had free, and I'd go to most of them. I was hopping bars, meeting women, living the life I'd kind of been "taught" I was supposed to live. Then I realized that the reason people tell you to "get a life" is because they think video games are a complete waste of time. Being someone who has rung through night life so vigorously, I can say with absolute certainty that it's no more a waste of time than the shitty club-phenomenon. I say clubs but I include house parties or whatever it is you teenagers are into these days.

It's actually a pretty awful scene to be mixed up in. I never met a gamer who was having sex with women in bathroom stalls at dodgy bars, but I can name ten Jocks who would brag about it. I've also got a big problem with the drinking mentality -- being happy about how wasted you got last night. This coming from an Irishman who peaked at drinking myself into a stupor most nights. I never got or gave a bloody nose before "getting a life" but my knuckle conditioning by the end of my stint made me look like the kind of douchebag who just goes looking for trouble.

That said, us gamers are a nice bunch. We give each other harsh words at times but that's as bad as it goes. When someone tells you to "get a life" or places you into some stereotypical clique all that they mean is they want you to live the sorry excuse for a life they have, which is really an ignorant existence spent drinking and experimenting with what they'll call recreational drugs in designated drinking and recreational drug zones. It sucks.

I'm not saying don't be social -- nothing wrong with a nice friend's birthday party or going overboard on beer once in a while, but all that it taught me was moderation.

I'll go out and meet my friends once a week or once every two weeks, but after trying out both sides of the spectrum I actually find myself enjoying those Friday nights to myself, laddering in Starcraft or writing a book I'll probably never publish.

How about you?

EDIT
Just so everyone understands, I've matured a lot and gotten much older from my 14-17 indecision between gaming and partying. As it stands now, I don't drink much but will have a couple every time I go out. I spend a good amount of time with friends and family, and my time in between I can use for video games. Despite all of that, gaming is the best thing ever. As long as you're not taking it overboard or sacrificing time with people close to you for it.

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This is my rifle, this is my gun; this is for fighting, this is for fun
Stijx
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States804 Posts
August 28 2011 16:33 GMT
#2
Well, I make SC2 and things like SSBM and Magic my 'social' things. I hang out with friends and watch tournaments, we play SC2 together, go to Friday Night Magic... if it's really your passion, especially with games nowadays, it can definitely be a social life.
But I agree, 'partying' and the such is just as 'pointless'.
petzergling
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
538 Posts
August 28 2011 16:34 GMT
#3
kind of came to the same realization myself when i started college, maybe im just a nerd though.

Mod Edit: Don't bold your entire post
Hailene
Profile Joined June 2011
United States80 Posts
August 28 2011 16:35 GMT
#4
I think the keyword in that entire passage is moderation - if there's anything I've learned is that living your life in moderation is the key. If you spend all your time on videogames, then, as you've pointed out, you don't learn to interact with other people on a face-to-face basis. The trick to life is learning how to balance everything you want to do.
Shamrock_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa276 Posts
August 28 2011 16:44 GMT
#5
On August 29 2011 01:35 Hailene wrote:
I think the keyword in that entire passage is moderation - if there's anything I've learned is that living your life in moderation is the key. If you spend all your time on videogames, then, as you've pointed out, you don't learn to interact with other people on a face-to-face basis. The trick to life is learning how to balance everything you want to do.


Pretty much this. Way too many people go overboard one direction. That said I think this exposes a pretty fatal flaw in people's mentality of life and what it's about.
This is my rifle, this is my gun; this is for fighting, this is for fun
Klaca
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
318 Posts
August 28 2011 16:50 GMT
#6
On August 29 2011 01:44 Shamrock_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 01:35 Hailene wrote:
I think the keyword in that entire passage is moderation - if there's anything I've learned is that living your life in moderation is the key. If you spend all your time on videogames, then, as you've pointed out, you don't learn to interact with other people on a face-to-face basis. The trick to life is learning how to balance everything you want to do.


Pretty much this. Way too many people go overboard one direction. That said I think this exposes a pretty fatal flaw in people's mentality of life and what it's about.

Wrong. moderation = mediocrity. You wont achieve anything worth achieving by moderate
osoup
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada56 Posts
August 28 2011 16:50 GMT
#7
Man, you should try a walk in parcs alone in the forest in a sunny days, I think you will be able to understand how awsome it is compared to going out and I agree your whole post.
Shamrock_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa276 Posts
August 28 2011 16:52 GMT
#8
On August 29 2011 01:50 Klaca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 01:44 Shamrock_ wrote:
On August 29 2011 01:35 Hailene wrote:
I think the keyword in that entire passage is moderation - if there's anything I've learned is that living your life in moderation is the key. If you spend all your time on videogames, then, as you've pointed out, you don't learn to interact with other people on a face-to-face basis. The trick to life is learning how to balance everything you want to do.


Pretty much this. Way too many people go overboard one direction. That said I think this exposes a pretty fatal flaw in people's mentality of life and what it's about.

Wrong. moderation = mediocrity. You wont achieve anything worth achieving by moderate


Well that all depends what you're referring to. Drinking in excess doesn't make you a professional or good drinker. It makes you alcoholic. Playing video games all day doesn't make you a professional gamer. I've met loads of people who do it and they don't earn a dime.


On August 29 2011 01:50 osoup wrote:
Man, you should try a walk in parcs alone in the forest in a sunny days, I think you will be able to understand how awsome it is compared to going out and I agree your whole post.


Actually this is really true. I've started camping lately on weekends, it's really nice. Long hikes, stuff like that.
This is my rifle, this is my gun; this is for fighting, this is for fun
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7888 Posts
August 28 2011 16:58 GMT
#9
I have some hope that I can do something else with my life than getting stuck in the alternative clubbing/playing video games.

As for socializing... A level 74 paladin isn't worth a real good and trusted friend.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
BouBou.865
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands814 Posts
August 28 2011 17:24 GMT
#10
I never gamed THAT hardcore, but getting a 'life' was like the best thing I ever did. I don't binge drink or go clubbing that much, just like 4-8 beers a night.
Playing League of Legends. IGN: Plain Skill
Shamrock_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa276 Posts
August 28 2011 17:26 GMT
#11
On August 29 2011 02:24 BouBou.865 wrote:
I never gamed THAT hardcore, but getting a 'life' was like the best thing I ever did. I don't binge drink or go clubbing that much, just like 4-8 beers a night.


Lol, 4-8 beers is quite a lot if it's something you do every night, but I'm not here to preach to people about how much they should be drinking. Do what works for you, but for me that means staying the fuck inside.


On August 29 2011 01:58 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I have some hope that I can do something else with my life than getting stuck in the alternative clubbing/playing video games.

As for socializing... A level 74 paladin isn't worth a real good and trusted friend.


Woah, woah. Bro. 74 Paladin is the bringer of light. If you don't think the bringer of light and justice is good for society then what are you even doing?
This is my rifle, this is my gun; this is for fighting, this is for fun
Keldrath
Profile Joined July 2010
United States449 Posts
August 28 2011 17:29 GMT
#12
i had a very similar experience to you but the thing is that neither of them are really right, what having a "life" means changes a lot after u get out of those teenage years and get into adulthood, then life becomes a whole lot more complicated and it stops being about "how am i gonna waste my free time today" to "i dont have freetime and i need to worry about how im going to stay alive"
If you want peace... prepare for war.
Shamrock_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa276 Posts
August 28 2011 17:34 GMT
#13
On August 29 2011 02:29 Keldrath wrote:
i had a very similar experience to you but the thing is that neither of them are really right, what having a "life" means changes a lot after u get out of those teenage years and get into adulthood, then life becomes a whole lot more complicated and it stops being about "how am i gonna waste my free time today" to "i dont have freetime and i need to worry about how im going to stay alive"


Yeah that's true. I've got a pretty good job and easy hours though so I still keep my free time, and I'm quite lucky in that respect. I read a lot on Cracked about life changing after 30
This is my rifle, this is my gun; this is for fighting, this is for fun
SaYyId
Profile Joined August 2010
Portugal277 Posts
August 28 2011 17:38 GMT
#14
This summer I have not gone to the beach once, I have not been to a party since I was 9 (my buddy's B-Day) and I don't give a fuck about others. By the way, I have never drank a beer or anything like that, except that one time when I tried Martini Blanco, and FUCK does it taste like TREE. It really does.
No Strings. No attachments.
TheVoice88
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway23 Posts
August 28 2011 17:42 GMT
#15
This is an issue that a lot of guys have to tackle, myself included. I'm in college now, and I have to say that most of the parties that I've been to have been pretty awesome, but there have been bad ones too of course. Personally I think a lot of guys are missing out on a lot of positive things by not hanging out with friends or going out once in a while, and you certainly don't have to get wasted every time you go out either. Two or three beers are just fine. I see a lot of guys using a lot alcohol as a crutch to try and gain confidence with the ladies, but in my opinion it doesn’t work most of the time, and if you get as far as the bedroom you encounter other problems as well . Being comfortable in your own skin, getting ladies and being able to walk home afterwards relatively coherent is much better, healthier and cheaper.

Moderation is the key. If you feel like being home Friday night gaming, that's okay, but shutting yourself inside a room day in and day out is not good either physically or mentally. Likewise, going out several times a week is even worse. I think it's good to do a bit of both, sometimes you need to just collect yourself after a stressful week and just be home relaxing, other times you need to go out and socialize with people face to face. That said, you are young only once, and I think it’s worth to take some chances once in a while and go out of your comfort zone by going out.
iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
August 28 2011 17:42 GMT
#16
On August 29 2011 01:50 Klaca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 01:44 Shamrock_ wrote:
On August 29 2011 01:35 Hailene wrote:
I think the keyword in that entire passage is moderation - if there's anything I've learned is that living your life in moderation is the key. If you spend all your time on videogames, then, as you've pointed out, you don't learn to interact with other people on a face-to-face basis. The trick to life is learning how to balance everything you want to do.


Pretty much this. Way too many people go overboard one direction. That said I think this exposes a pretty fatal flaw in people's mentality of life and what it's about.

Wrong. moderation = mediocrity. You wont achieve anything worth achieving by moderate


Unlike getting into drunken brawls because you're unable to drink in moderation.

That's the true epitome of not being mediocre.
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Shamrock_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa276 Posts
August 28 2011 17:51 GMT
#17
On August 29 2011 02:42 vVvTime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 01:50 Klaca wrote:
On August 29 2011 01:44 Shamrock_ wrote:
On August 29 2011 01:35 Hailene wrote:
I think the keyword in that entire passage is moderation - if there's anything I've learned is that living your life in moderation is the key. If you spend all your time on videogames, then, as you've pointed out, you don't learn to interact with other people on a face-to-face basis. The trick to life is learning how to balance everything you want to do.


Pretty much this. Way too many people go overboard one direction. That said I think this exposes a pretty fatal flaw in people's mentality of life and what it's about.

Wrong. moderation = mediocrity. You wont achieve anything worth achieving by moderate


Unlike getting into drunken brawls because you're unable to drink in moderation.

That's the true epitome of not being mediocre.


I'm so pro at drinking that I don't even get into drunken brawls, I just pass out.
This is my rifle, this is my gun; this is for fighting, this is for fun
Freeheals
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States488 Posts
August 28 2011 17:58 GMT
#18
On August 29 2011 02:26 Shamrock_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 02:24 BouBou.865 wrote:
I never gamed THAT hardcore, but getting a 'life' was like the best thing I ever did. I don't binge drink or go clubbing that much, just like 4-8 beers a night.


Lol, 4-8 beers is quite a lot if it's something you do every night, but I'm not here to preach to people about how much they should be drinking. Do what works for you, but for me that means staying the fuck inside.


Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 01:58 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I have some hope that I can do something else with my life than getting stuck in the alternative clubbing/playing video games.

As for socializing... A level 74 paladin isn't worth a real good and trusted friend.


Woah, woah. Bro. 74 Paladin is the bringer of light. If you don't think the bringer of light and justice is good for society then what are you even doing?

Hahaha 1/2 your post is serious and the other is troll, I love it
http://www.last.fm/user/Rahdek
Just_A_PhasE
Profile Joined June 2011
United States89 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 18:04:46
August 28 2011 18:03 GMT
#19
On August 29 2011 02:42 TheVoice88 wrote:
This is an issue that a lot of guys have to tackle, myself included. I'm in college now, and I have to say that most of the parties that I've been to have been pretty awesome, but there have been bad ones too of course. Personally I think a lot of guys are missing out on a lot of positive things by not hanging out with friends or going out once in a while, and you certainly don't have to get wasted every time you go out either. Two or three beers are just fine. I see a lot of guys using a lot alcohol as a crutch to try and gain confidence with the ladies, but in my opinion it doesn’t work most of the time, and if you get as far as the bedroom you encounter other problems as well . Being comfortable in your own skin, getting ladies and being able to walk home afterwards relatively coherent is much better, healthier and cheaper.

Moderation is the key. If you feel like being home Friday night gaming, that's okay, but shutting yourself inside a room day in and day out is not good either physically or mentally. Likewise, going out several times a week is even worse. I think it's good to do a bit of both, sometimes you need to just collect yourself after a stressful week and just be home relaxing, other times you need to go out and socialize with people face to face. That said, you are young only once, and I think it’s worth to take some chances once in a while and go out of your comfort zone by going out.

Was going to basically say the same thing this guy said. Everything in moderation applies perfectly here. It sounds like you have quite an addictive personality, but are quite intelligent at the same time. This can make it tough to do things in moderation. Sitting inside day in and day out playing video games I would agree with the whole "get a life" thing. There is a lot more to experience in the world than as you put it "the lesser of two evils." Expand your vision of not what everyone else wants you to think life is supposed to be about, but what you think life should be about and how you would like to live.

I personally am college age (not attending atm), and I went through both the video game stage and the /drinking partying stage. And now I don't drink, smoke, party, I don't even eat fast food or drink anything but milk/water. I exercise, read, I play video games, go out with my friends (by go out I mean we often bike 20 ish miles and go to a beach or something), hang out with my family, and work. This is the way I enjoy living, I don't know the meaning to life and who is to say if what i'm doing is right/wrong or if drinking/gaming/partying is right or wrong. However, everything in moderation I think can lead to a certain amount of contentment and happiness.

Good luck with everything and I think you have a good head on your shoulders.
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
August 28 2011 18:16 GMT
#20
Good read. It mirrors my own life fairly closely albeit in a different timeframe, although probably not to the extreme on either spectrum.

Im 25 now, so I think a fair bit older than you, but in my first few years of university I did nothing but the club scene, pub crawls, parties. Then for a while after i moved out of residence at university I did nothing but game (WoW). I quickly realized that i had more or less lost all of my friends both from my home town and university because I never went out, never called, and even when they did invite me out I would just make excuses to stay home (which I really regret now). It took me a long time to re-learn how to be social

Now I enjoy a nice mix, I spend the majority of my time at home, reading, writing and gaming, and I go out once or twice a week with friends for drinks, dinner or whatever is going on. Although I still have trouble making good friends (friends who I dont just hang out with on an occasional basis)

Like you, I really enjoy my nights alone at home (although my girlfriend doesnt =D) and just relaxing with a movie or video game. But I still enjoy the company of other people every once in a while. Ive also found that I really enjoy travel.

I find that because I did the bar scene so much, that I absolutely despise it now. I dont mind going out for drinks with buddies to a pub where you can get food and drinks and hear each other talk. But the club scene is lost to me, I absolutly hate it and cant stand to be in one of those places. For a while I was really down on myself for letting it get to that point where I was so anti social.

In the end, I realized that a gamer was just part of my life, no different than a person who loves sports or UFC or anything else. Its not bad, its just different. The sooner I learned not to get down on myself about being a gamer i really started to enjoy it more again, and while I might not have some of the 'Wild" experiences of others, I do have enough to make it regret free.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
OscarN
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Cape Verde292 Posts
August 28 2011 18:36 GMT
#21
Nice Read man! i can relate to alot of what happened... but it kind of sunk in for me later on
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
August 28 2011 18:43 GMT
#22
Most people that go to clubs are fucking dumb and uninteresting to me, which is why I almost never do it anymore.

When you think of it, world's greatest minds were often lone wolfs, finding society unworthy of their time.
Brad`
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
August 28 2011 18:45 GMT
#23
I'm glad it only took me a year to realize the importance of balancing my hobbies and my social life. The stories my friends tell me about the stuff I was doing two years ago are embarrassing and I'm happy that when I'm 50 years old I won't have to look back at a massive multi-year span of regret.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
August 28 2011 18:53 GMT
#24
You don't have to drink to go out man!

I go out clubbing at least 3 times a week completely sober, with whoever I can find that is willing to come and if worst comes to worst I go by myself anyway!

Find a place that plays music you love and then just dance like an idiot all night. It's extremely liberating I promise!

You don't have to pick up when you're out either to have a good time!
Sucker for nostalgia
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 19:29:37
August 28 2011 19:27 GMT
#25
i hate when people generalize and label everyone and everything. Gaming and esports are just as nerdy as a regular sports fanatic. The only difference being that you dont fucking sit on the couch eating potato chips and drinking beer all day. Same goes for people that only live for going on drinking and partying trying to get laid, they are nerds for social life. Imho most people at social events I meet up with are pretty lame and boring, all they think about are drinking, hanging out, and getting laid. Oh and smoking weed, and talking shit or trying to convince me to smoke weed.

Everything needs to be balanced, everyone has a different balance and different interests. Find yours, use it. Call everyone else who disagrees with your methods and tells you they need to use theirs an idiot. Be proud.
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
August 28 2011 19:28 GMT
#26
On August 29 2011 01:58 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I have some hope that I can do something else with my life than getting stuck in the alternative clubbing/playing video games.

As for socializing... A level 74 paladin isn't worth a real good and trusted friend.


????

My four closest friends were all people I met through WoW initially. I don't know what it was but I guess when you really hardcore raided with someone for 5 hours a day you really got to know them.

We all quit WoW around the same time and are still close....but I wouldn't discount the social aspect of WoW because I certainly had a lot of socializing in that game with the same core amount of people

Before you ask, yes met face to face and partied hard but without meeting over WoW that never would have happened.
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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
August 28 2011 20:27 GMT
#27
I went through the same cycles as you minus the drinking. My poison was Ragnarok Online which I used to play around 12 hours a day if not more. I was one of the best pvpers on my server. After I had realized how lonely I was I reached out to certain people and met some really great guys who took me under their wing. Learned lots. I'd go out every day or every other day for a while.

I still love to meet new people. I dedicate at least 10% of my time meeting new people. Sometimes I have to kick my self into going out when I don't feel like it. It's usually worth it in the end. The only difference now from say two years ago is that I'm more picky with the people I surround myself with. I have a certain type now, a certain type you don't really meet at clubs. So I go to different places now. I still go to clubs once in a while but I meet most new people now through hobbies, places I like to go to, activities I like, groups and through my own friends.
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Shamrock_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa276 Posts
August 28 2011 20:27 GMT
#28
On August 29 2011 03:53 DropBear wrote:
You don't have to drink to go out man!

I go out clubbing at least 3 times a week completely sober, with whoever I can find that is willing to come and if worst comes to worst I go by myself anyway!

Find a place that plays music you love and then just dance like an idiot all night. It's extremely liberating I promise!

You don't have to pick up when you're out either to have a good time!


Oh not at all. I find myself drinking less and less the older I get. Haven't touched a drop this weekend but was at a pool hall Friday and Saturday. I also find the people at clubs kinda crumby, and there's not a lot of social stuff to do -- either you're dancing or drinking, bad music's too loud to talk over.
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GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
August 28 2011 20:43 GMT
#29
I think this all comes down to the things you like, and most of us here are introverted. I enjoy going out, drinking and doing stuff with friends, but the most I enjoy atm is playing starcraft and powerlifting (true there is other people in the gym, many of which are friends, but I'll rather not have anyone around and focus on lifting)
Soluhwin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1287 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 21:42:06
August 28 2011 21:41 GMT
#30
The most confusing part about your post is:
On August 29 2011 01:20 Shamrock_ wrote:
This coming from an Irishman who peaked at drinking myself into a stupor most nights.

and your nationality says "South Africa".
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Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
August 28 2011 21:44 GMT
#31
Going out drinking and partying doesn't sound like much of a life to me, any more than gaming all day does :/
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Shamrock_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa276 Posts
August 28 2011 22:10 GMT
#32
On August 29 2011 06:41 Soluhwin wrote:
The most confusing part about your post is:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 01:20 Shamrock_ wrote:
This coming from an Irishman who peaked at drinking myself into a stupor most nights.

and your nationality says "South Africa".


You realize it is possible to move countries right? Like the fact that I was born in Ireland and raised by Irish parents doesn't mean that I have to keep "Ireland" as my country for the rest of my life if I'm in another part of the world.
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KingDime
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada750 Posts
August 28 2011 22:54 GMT
#33
Go out maybe on average once every two weeks to a bar type environment atleast. Other than that I just go and meet people. As for clubs, im uninterested and don't really care about that scene. Ever since I joined the U of C sc2 club in calgary i've met a huge variety of people and will go out for occasional drinks which is fun but I consider the weekly meetings just as entertaining albeit a bit less random

This is your life, don't let somebody elses enjoyments direct what you "should" enjoy out of it. Take this weekend, spent a friday at a club meeting for 3 hrs, made 60$ on saturday taking second place in a calgary lan and watched MLG today. No drinking, but tons of fun and met a lot of awesome ppl.
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CooDu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia899 Posts
August 28 2011 23:46 GMT
#34
My excessive amounts of gaming/no social life ended with the birth of my son so, I guess that was a blessing for my life in more than one way. I still love sitting down to play SC2 and other games, but I'm glad that my responsibilities as a Father limit me from taking it too far.

I was never into the social scene and thoroughly enjoyed being a recluse on my PC. Although most of the time I can remember my room being a mini-workshop because I'd pull apart PC's/Monitors etc in there lol.

I did enjoy spending time with my family still, but just couldn't understand the fun in getting shitfaced every weekend and fucking up my body etc etc.
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Xyik
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada728 Posts
August 29 2011 01:14 GMT
#35
As a person you should learn to enjoy whatever life offers. There are advantages and disadvantages to any activity, its up to you to find the positives. The idea of 'getting a life' isn't necessarily going to clubs, getting smashed, or getting laid, but to experience more of life. That doesn't limit you to doing what's popular, but neither does should it limit you to only doing things you are comfortable with.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 01:53:10
August 29 2011 01:50 GMT
#36
Very thoughtful blog.
Despite what the society tells you, I find that gaming and "sociality" (as you put it) are equally ephemeral and ultimately empty, if not worse in the latter case.

However, there's something else: building genuine connections with people -- whether with those of opposite sex or not -- is something that is much more worthwhile than both of these things.


(but playing starcraft is still worth it because it is amazing..)
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 02:00:19
August 29 2011 01:59 GMT
#37
From your story, you don't sound like an alcoholic. Sound more like a clubber, for the short time you did it.

There's a very big difference.
Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
August 29 2011 03:06 GMT
#38
I think that the real problem many people have is finding a balance between games and social life. Spend too much time gaming, and you miss out on the fun that being with other people can be. Don't do any gaming, and you miss out on a wonderful form of interactive entertainment. Balance your social life and your gaming, and you can experience the good parts of both worlds without many of the bad things that come from obsessing over one or the other.
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Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
August 29 2011 03:51 GMT
#39
I'm one of those people that could stay in his apartment for a month and enjoy it (well, if I didn't need to work or go to university) but I disagree about social events being less fun.

Both are fun. I don't drink (besides a beer once every blue moon) or take drugs and I'm not someone that enjoys "wild things". Seriously, I don't like parties or bars AT ALL. Watching idiots scream and slutty girls whore out is not interesting.

However, I do enjoy normal social events such as sports, town events, going fishing or hiking and just being around friends at a barbecue or something. In fact, these are just as fun as anything else I can think of that could be done alone in my room.

Pro tip : Life is more fun by enjoying several aspects of it. Sitting in your room is fun for a while but it can't be compared to what's out there.

If you happen to enjoy nightlife, good for you. Clearly you didn't like it so stick to day life.

I personally like waking up early and doing some of the aforementioned stuff. Also, you meet a lot less psychos doing these things than going out to bars or street races, etc.

Like you said, too many people lead shallow lives where they think fucking random whores and drinking is supposed to be their enjoyment. And if they would leave me alone I wouldn't care (they don't, noisy people coming into the apartment complex at 4am make me want to rage). It's one thing when 18 year olds do it, but these days a lot of 30 year olds are just as bad.

I find that people turn out to be better people in general and happier when they stay away from these places and type of people. Find something you like. Learn interesting stuff. Meet people with similar interests. Meet people with a positive outlook on life instead of a bunch of idiots that get wasted so much they can barely remember what they do; people that are usually more prone to being violent or manipulative, etc.

It's no secret that life is a lot more fun when you sit back and take it slow, doing fun activities here and there and just involve yourself in fun things. Just look around you and realize most people that are happy and satisfied in their lives are not those roaming clubs and bars. It's those with a calm life and some hobbies they can enjoy with others. Having a stable income and relationship helps of course but are not really needed.
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Latto
Profile Joined April 2011
235 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 06:34:23
August 29 2011 04:15 GMT
#40
Edit: took down my post.
but I agree with op post fully.
meguca
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States78 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 07:09:12
August 29 2011 07:08 GMT
#41
The mainstream social activities that are so commonplace in modern society really are just depraved and horrid. It's good that you realized this before you went too far down a bad path!
Shamrock_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa276 Posts
August 29 2011 10:36 GMT
#42
On August 29 2011 10:59 StarStruck wrote:
From your story, you don't sound like an alcoholic. Sound more like a clubber, for the short time you did it.

There's a very big difference.


I'll leave the alcoholic chapter for a different blog. This didn't really address it.

I find it interesting to note that it sounds like a lot of gamers have gone through this. Initially you play video games like there's no tomorrow, then avoid them like a plague, then find a balance.
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igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
August 29 2011 12:10 GMT
#43
Every ideal has a dark side? Drinking much more than others.

To comment on it neutrally, the dark side of gaming is more like the absence of good. You don't do anything really bad, but with the exception of tournaments and meetup type social events, you don't do anything really good either. You may not meet a lot of new people, and a lot of those that you meet share very few common interests outside of the game (though you could be lucky).

The downside of clubbing/partying, other than alcoholism, getting into a rut, and possible depression, there's a point where you're not really getting much more going out n+1 times a month than n times. And it can cost money, you kind of meet the same type of people, like anything you else you might become kind of one dimensional and uninteresting.

The upside of going out, well, you never know what's going to happen, and you might meet some interesting people, and you'll have better stories. Pretty valuable things from a humanistic point of view.

And parties are fun, but some clubs can be antisocial, and bars too if people get too into it.
TheGiz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada708 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 13:55:24
August 29 2011 13:51 GMT
#44
I like the whole club scene, but only because its a very rare thing for me. Of my group of friends, TEN PEOPLE are in relatively stable relationships with each other, and only 3 of us are single. Of those three, I'd say I'm the only one with a shot in hell at picking up at a club or bar. So, naturally, our group going out and doing that sort of thing is kind of out of character. We usually just play board games or go to a bar and drink a little, talk, then go home early (to my great chagrin).

My main problem is that I don't really have a "wingman" type friend right now. Going out and picking up is just not in the cards for me, since no one I know really wants to do that sort of thing. So, when the prospect of "hanging out" at someone's house for the 1000th time comes up on a weekend, and I don't feel like doing it, I don't go out. I get very little out of it for myself other than some decent friendship time, but since I get so much of that already I don't need to do it again and again.

When I'm home though I'm simply not in the mood to play Starcraft or anything else. I haven't played a serious video game in about 2 months. I just watch TV on my computer or look up music on YouTube. I've found a shitload of great music in the past 8 months, but I still feel like I'm wasting time.

This actually led to a positive last night. Out of boredom I decided to see if I was eligible for a government-issued no-interest student loan for the fall. Turns out they're giving me $10,000. Now I can actually afford to go to school.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 29 2011 13:57 GMT
#45
On August 29 2011 19:36 Shamrock_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 10:59 StarStruck wrote:
From your story, you don't sound like an alcoholic. Sound more like a clubber, for the short time you did it.

There's a very big difference.


I'll leave the alcoholic chapter for a different blog. This didn't really address it.

I find it interesting to note that it sounds like a lot of gamers have gone through this. Initially you play video games like there's no tomorrow, then avoid them like a plague, then find a balance.



Fair enough. Waiting to hear those tales. O:

I used to drink a stupid amount myself every night, but I still would never consider myself an alcoholic.
TheGiz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada708 Posts
August 29 2011 14:00 GMT
#46
On August 29 2011 22:57 StarStruck wrote:
I used to drink a stupid amount myself every night, but I still would never consider myself an alcoholic.


The true mark of an alcoholic is if they drink a lot alone. My friend will have a beer to relax when he gets home from work. That's fine. I know another guy though who will down 10-20 beers by himself without eating in a night. That is not.
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PetitCrabe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada410 Posts
August 29 2011 16:28 GMT
#47
I could definitly be wrong about this, but I figured a while back that everybody does their thing. Some game a lot, some go clubbing a lot, some play sports a lot etc etc. The only difference is that the clubbing/bar/drinking bunch, although not majority, is more visible, vocal and more represented as being 'normal'. I thought I was anti-social because I don't like to go to clubs and stuff like that, but I figured I was just hanging out with the wrong persons. It wasn't really hard after figuring that out to find some people who liked to game, hang out inside, play board games and from time to time go out in bars.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
August 29 2011 17:10 GMT
#48
On August 29 2011 23:00 TheGiz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 22:57 StarStruck wrote:
I used to drink a stupid amount myself every night, but I still would never consider myself an alcoholic.


The true mark of an alcoholic is if they drink a lot alone. My friend will have a beer to relax when he gets home from work. That's fine. I know another guy though who will down 10-20 beers by himself without eating in a night. That is not.


This is absolutely true. When drinking heavily with friends I never felt like my life was really in a bad place but once I started binge drinking alone nearly every night my life got pretty dark.
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Shamrock_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa276 Posts
August 29 2011 19:26 GMT
#49
On August 30 2011 01:28 PetitCrabe wrote:
I could definitly be wrong about this, but I figured a while back that everybody does their thing. Some game a lot, some go clubbing a lot, some play sports a lot etc etc. The only difference is that the clubbing/bar/drinking bunch, although not majority, is more visible, vocal and more represented as being 'normal'. I thought I was anti-social because I don't like to go to clubs and stuff like that, but I figured I was just hanging out with the wrong persons. It wasn't really hard after figuring that out to find some people who liked to game, hang out inside, play board games and from time to time go out in bars.


Of course. We're gamers. We game. Clubbers club, partiers party. I don't really wanna judge them for it. The lifestyle itself isn't really all that great from my observation, but of course that's left up to them. People are different and enjoy different things.
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