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Your mastery of the english language, your suave articulation, it just astounds me.
Also I guess great point, but thats a lesser thing :D.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
To anyone throwing around worlds like traitor or sellout: Shut the fuck up.
This is a benchmark moment for non-korean players in the Starcraft world. The first time a major non-Korean player is switching from one big team to another 'big' team for big money. The very fact that this competition exists between major sponsored teams contesting to sign the top players is evidence of just how amazing the SC2 world will get.
It just shows that the raw marketing value of a player is there. How do you expect non-Korean players to compete at a Korean level unless they can focus on SC2 alone? They can't unless they have financial comfort. Now that comfort is coming in. Also, I don't know the specifics but I'd be willing to bet over half of his salary will be going towards paying for his travel expenses to all the tournaments: Which means more HuK for you guys to watch.
No one is to blame here. Not EG for having too much money, not TL for not having enough money (yet), and certainly not HuK. This is simply the way the world works.
As far as HuK is concerned: HuK is the most dedicated non-Korean player I have ever seen...in SC1 or SC2. And while his view of the world and how it works is a little too romantic for my tastes, the man has dedication. And while it was annoying at the time how he consistently rejected my offers to take him out in Seoul, I have crazy respect for it now. He worked hard to get where he is and he deserves every dime he can possibly get.
Not that anything I just wrote matters, because if you just read it either a. you already knew all this or b. you're a dumb fucken fan boy(girl).
Good luck to HuK in the future. And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.
P.S. TLO is a pimp.
Damn straight.
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EG hasn't shown a sustainable way of player development the way oGs-TL have. No, having one player of each race in a Korean house is not going to cut it. Until they show dedication to coaching and player development, I have to write this move as a negative one for Huk's development as a player.
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United States4796 Posts
Rekrul laying down the law.
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I say good on Huk for being able to do some thing like this it was probably one of the hardest descion he has had to make for his career.
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The Vocal Minority is getting to you man.
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On August 17 2011 09:44 Kraznaya wrote:
EG hasn't shown a sustainable way of player development the way oGs-TL have. No, having one player of each race in a Korean house is not going to cut it. Until they show dedication to coaching and player development, I have to write this move as a negative one for Huk's development as a player.
Idra was Code S without any team house in korea? Do you think Huk was actually having full in depth conversations with such a language barrier in the ogs house? Huk will still have the same practice partners he just wont be sharing a bathroom with them. If anything the environment will be better for huk, he will feel a lot more comfortable with his living situation.
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On August 17 2011 09:47 Sky0 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 09:44 Kraznaya wrote:
EG hasn't shown a sustainable way of player development the way oGs-TL have. No, having one player of each race in a Korean house is not going to cut it. Until they show dedication to coaching and player development, I have to write this move as a negative one for Huk's development as a player. Idra was Code S without any team house in korea? Do you think Huk was actually having full in depth conversations with such a language barrier in the ogs house? Huk will still have the same practice partners he just wont be sharing a bathroom with them. If anything the environment will be better for huk, he will feel a lot more comfortable with his living situation.
Idra was Code S back when Code S was shit, and he was one of the few with a BW B-teamer background.
Huk improved drastically since moving to the oGs house and practicing next to MC. Just look at where Kiwikaki is now. Huk was Kiwikaki level back when he was on Millenium.
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Rekrul, you speak the honest truth. 
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Only rekrul can make me agree with this shit.
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On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
To anyone throwing around worlds like traitor or sellout: Shut the fuck up.
This is a benchmark moment for non-korean players in the Starcraft world. The first time a major non-Korean player is switching from one big team to another 'big' team for big money. The very fact that this competition exists between major sponsored teams contesting to sign the top players is evidence of just how amazing the SC2 world will get.
It just shows that the raw marketing value of a player is there. How do you expect non-Korean players to compete at a Korean level unless they can focus on SC2 alone? They can't unless they have financial comfort. Now that comfort is coming in. Also, I don't know the specifics but I'd be willing to bet over half of his salary will be going towards paying for his travel expenses to all the tournaments: Which means more HuK for you guys to watch.
No one is to blame here. Not EG for having too much money, not TL for not having enough money (yet), and certainly not HuK. This is simply the way the world works.
As far as HuK is concerned: HuK is the most dedicated non-Korean player I have ever seen...in SC1 or SC2. And while his view of the world and how it works is a little too romantic for my tastes, the man has dedication. And while it was annoying at the time how he consistently rejected my offers to take him out in Seoul, I have crazy respect for it now. He worked hard to get where he is and he deserves every dime he can possibly get.
Not that anything I just wrote matters, because if you just read it either a. you already knew all this or b. you're a dumb fucken fan boy(girl).
Good luck to HuK in the future. And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.
P.S. TLO is a pimp.
QFT. EG needs to send the rest of their team to Korea as well.
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...Even saw the lights of the new year blimp, and it read "TLO's a pimp"..
Now take the rest of the song in the same context, just a day in TLO's thug life.
But on a side note, yeah I agree with you, there is way too much silly blind EG hate just because they "stole" HuK.
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I synthesized Rekrul's post down to four words.
On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
Shut the fuck up.
I think this adequately conveys the message in his post.
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On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.
ggwp
Also, we have liquid`jaedong. I'm happy
HB should also remove this photo, it's only feeding the flames at this point:
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On August 17 2011 09:48 Kraznaya wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 09:47 Sky0 wrote:On August 17 2011 09:44 Kraznaya wrote:
EG hasn't shown a sustainable way of player development the way oGs-TL have. No, having one player of each race in a Korean house is not going to cut it. Until they show dedication to coaching and player development, I have to write this move as a negative one for Huk's development as a player. Idra was Code S without any team house in korea? Do you think Huk was actually having full in depth conversations with such a language barrier in the ogs house? Huk will still have the same practice partners he just wont be sharing a bathroom with them. If anything the environment will be better for huk, he will feel a lot more comfortable with his living situation. Idra was Code S back when Code S was shit, and he was one of the few with a BW B-teamer background. Huk improved drastically since moving to the oGs house and practicing next to MC. Just look at where Kiwikaki is now. Huk was Kiwikaki level back when he was on Millenium.
No one is suggesting that TL had zero to do with HuK's growth as a player. We are suggesting that TL isn't the ONLY reason he is as good as he is now. They get credit for helping him grow, not ALL the credit for him as a player. There is a difference.
Also, remember HuK isn't leaving anyone out to dry like he would be if he left a soccer team. Starcraft is an individual sport. Individuals win and lose the game.
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i would very much like to get on huks nuts
no homo
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On August 17 2011 09:55 Zeri wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 09:48 Kraznaya wrote:On August 17 2011 09:47 Sky0 wrote:On August 17 2011 09:44 Kraznaya wrote:
EG hasn't shown a sustainable way of player development the way oGs-TL have. No, having one player of each race in a Korean house is not going to cut it. Until they show dedication to coaching and player development, I have to write this move as a negative one for Huk's development as a player. Idra was Code S without any team house in korea? Do you think Huk was actually having full in depth conversations with such a language barrier in the ogs house? Huk will still have the same practice partners he just wont be sharing a bathroom with them. If anything the environment will be better for huk, he will feel a lot more comfortable with his living situation. Idra was Code S back when Code S was shit, and he was one of the few with a BW B-teamer background. Huk improved drastically since moving to the oGs house and practicing next to MC. Just look at where Kiwikaki is now. Huk was Kiwikaki level back when he was on Millenium. No one is suggesting that TL had zero to do with HuK's growth as a player. We are suggesting that TL isn't the ONLY reason he is as good as he is now. They get credit for helping him grow, not ALL the credit for him as a player. There is a difference. Also, remember HuK isn't leaving anyone out to dry like he would be if he left a soccer team. Starcraft is an individual sport. Individuals win and lose the game.
My point is that EG's training environment for HuK will not nearly be as good as oGs-TL's was, and therefore this move was a poor choice by him with regard to his development as a player. If he prioritizes cash over that, more power to him, but that isn't what is being discussed.
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Typical post... this was easier to predict than someone calling him a traitor, i feel we have a right to be sad and dissapointed and from what i've seen so far that's mostly all of the negativity; huk will most likely be happy in his new team and life will go on
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I agreed with everything rekrul said up until EG only having 2 talented players.
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Kracken telling it straight - I think lots of people are just sad and venting. Looking forward to seeing the foreigner scene keep growing!
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Every post you make is amazing. I agree wholeheartedly. But still, it hurts...
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On August 17 2011 10:01 Destro wrote:
I agreed with everything rekrul said up until EG only having 2 talented players.
Well they have 3 now.
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On August 17 2011 09:51 marttorn wrote:
...Even saw the lights of the new year blimp, and it read "TLO's a pimp"..
Now take the rest of the song in the same context, just a day in TLO's thug life.
"I didn't even have to use the blue flame, I gotta say it was a good day."
Thankfully I've been able to avoid most of the vitriol, it's big news and I'm happy for him but sentimentally we all wish he could have stayed liquid, rivalries are no fun when a team just buys up all the players :\
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United States7481 Posts
On August 17 2011 10:03 Backpack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 10:01 Destro wrote:
I agreed with everything rekrul said up until EG only having 2 talented players. Well they have 3 now.
if you've read his post history you'll know that he meant exactly what he said
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I still don't get the huge hate going on. HuK got a new team when his contract with TL was running out. Big whoop. >_>
On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.
God I love this quote. Sarcastic yet true at the same time.
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On August 17 2011 10:04 Antoine wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 10:03 Backpack wrote:On August 17 2011 10:01 Destro wrote:
I agreed with everything rekrul said up until EG only having 2 talented players. Well they have 3 now. if you've read his post history you'll know that he meant exactly what he said
I wasn't sure if his past opinions were still accurate.
Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if EG started picking up more established players and dropping their weak links.
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Some folks are so mad...
I like this development.
It's good for the plot.
Good plots need villains.
With eye-dra, Huk, and Puma,
The team is a boss.
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Estonia4644 Posts
a. you already knew all this or b. you're a dumb fucken fan boy(girl).
is it bad if both are applicable?
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On August 17 2011 10:04 Antoine wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 10:03 Backpack wrote:On August 17 2011 10:01 Destro wrote:
I agreed with everything rekrul said up until EG only having 2 talented players. Well they have 3 now. if you've read his post history you'll know that he meant exactly what he said
can you remember the actual reason rekrul hates idra
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wow a rekrul post, big fan
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On August 17 2011 10:15 fusefuse wrote:is it bad if both are applicable?
you're a hermaphrodite?
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On August 17 2011 10:10 Backpack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 10:04 Antoine wrote:On August 17 2011 10:03 Backpack wrote:On August 17 2011 10:01 Destro wrote:
I agreed with everything rekrul said up until EG only having 2 talented players. Well they have 3 now. if you've read his post history you'll know that he meant exactly what he said I wasn't sure if his past opinions were still accurate. Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if EG started picking up more established players and dropping their weak links.
I'll agree, the rate in which EG is building upon itself, they are going to need to either make a B team that receives little to no money and becomes practise partners, or cut the non preformers.. the money just wouldnt make sense.
But that statement implies liquid doesnt have a similar issue.. cough haypro tyler tlo cough
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Good writeup, a lot more people should read this. I like it a lot. Also...
On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
P.S. TLO is a pimp.
This made the thread for me, lol.
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Well yes, the points you made are valid, but coming from the standpoint of a hardcore TL fan, that has a friendly rivalry with EG, this is a pretty big bummer. I'm not mad at Huk, I'm not mad at EG, I'm just very very disappointed that TL and Huk couldn't come to an agreement that would have let Huk stay.
I think its also an indication of how amazing SC is when people can get this worked up, and their can be this loud of an outcry when a beloved player goes to a rival team. I would be worried about TL and the SC2 scene if a transfer this big happened and nobody gave a shit. In a time like this when emotions are running high, telling us to shut the fuck up and be happy is not going to work. Let us be upset for awhile, and then after it sinks in and has time to settle, if people aren't douches, the anger/sadness will pass.
It is awesome for Sc2 and I can't wait for when Huk meets Ret or TLO or someone in a big tourney and the storyline there is going to be incredible. Its healthy and a good thing, but also sad and pretty emotional.
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On August 17 2011 10:16 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 10:04 Antoine wrote:On August 17 2011 10:03 Backpack wrote:On August 17 2011 10:01 Destro wrote:
I agreed with everything rekrul said up until EG only having 2 talented players. Well they have 3 now. if you've read his post history you'll know that he meant exactly what he said can you remember the actual reason rekrul hates idra
IdrA is a mechanics monster; but he has no game-sense. That's Rekrul's PoV of IdrA even before getting picked up by CJ. He has an elaborately explained defense of it in one of his Foreigners Suck threads.
That said, Rekrul is bound to be right; providing financial and material security for players = 1st step to giving them the time and practice to compete with the best. 2nd would definitely be coaching support.
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This was the only thing i needed today, Rek to tell it like it is.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.
snap
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Now that Rek has spoken, anyone who says otherwise, is beyond a shadow of a doubt
On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
a dumb fucken fan boy(girl).
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What does Rekrul do these days?
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I actually love the switch and also how e-sports is actually becoming more of a sport. Teams acquiring the best players they can. Just like basketball or anything else, players take a favorable offer because they have earned it and it presents them with financial security.
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On August 17 2011 10:37 jambOng wrote:
What does Rekrul do these days?
parties like its 1999
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I was hurt but after seeing a thread that made my Rerrul, I am fully healed ( first thread in the last 1-2 years?).
As much as I hate to see Huk is out of TL, I don't blame anyone. Best of luck for Huk in the future. I maybe feel somewhat bitter for the fact that TL doesn't have any big sponsor. TLAF to say the best is just a super small company in which can not compare to what EG is getting now.
Come on TL, get yourself some big ass companies to be your sponsors.
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rekrul is completely right.
This is pretty big for the non-Korean scene. This wont be the first time something like this happens.
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Hong Kong9153 Posts
On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
To anyone throwing around words like traitor or sellout: Shut the fuck up.
This is a benchmark moment for non-korean players in the Starcraft world. The first time a major non-Korean player is switching from one big team to another 'big' team for big money. The very fact that this competition exists between major sponsored teams contesting to sign the top players is evidence of just how amazing the SC2 world will get.
It just shows that the raw marketing value of a player is there. How do you expect non-Korean players to compete at a Korean level unless they can focus on SC2 alone? They can't unless they have financial comfort. Now that comfort is coming in. Also, I don't know the specifics but I'd be willing to bet over half of his salary will be going towards paying for his travel expenses to all the tournaments: Which means more HuK for you guys to watch.
No one is to blame here. Not EG for having too much money, not TL for not having enough money (yet), and certainly not HuK. This is simply the way the world works.
As far as HuK is concerned: HuK is the most dedicated non-Korean player I have ever seen...in SC1 or SC2. And while his view of the world and how it works is a little too romantic for my tastes, the man has dedication. And while it was annoying at the time how he consistently rejected my offers to take him out in Seoul, I have crazy respect for it now. He worked hard to get where he is and he deserves every dime he can possibly get.
Not that anything I just wrote matters, because if you just read it either a. you already knew all this or b. you're a dumb fucken fan boy(girl).
Good luck to HuK in the future. And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.
P.S. TLO is a pimp.
Completely agree. People need to learn how shit works in the real world. Lots of blind hate being thrown around this issue.
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On August 17 2011 10:43 LittleAtari wrote:
rekrul is completely right.
This is pretty big for the non-Korean scene. This wont be the first time something like this happens.
Next year: team liquid buy's out Huk, Idra, Puma, and Nestea's contracts.
But yea Rekrul, most people could relate and wouldn't call him a sellout. However, I would rather the shining beacon of foreigner starcraft in korea at the moment be from a team I want to support. Been rooting against EG for so long, feels weird with Huk there t.t;
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*Swoons* tell me more about Huk Rekrul
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Hey man, good for Huk. Make a living bro.
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If it makes ESPORTS move forward, I'm all for it. In other news, Google just bought Motorola.
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Australia8532 Posts
Well written and ... to the point i guess is the right way to put it. At the end of the day you can understand where all the bitterness is coming from. HuK has a massive following borne out of the TL community; and EG pretty much exists in direct rivalry with liquid. I'm not saying posts like traitor/sellout are correct or warranted, but it's coming from fans that do feel a little bit betrayed.
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Huk is a total boss on any team!
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Fans shouldn't feel betrayed. They should just listen to Rekrul and shut the fuck up.
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Good luck to HuK in the future. And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.
Rekrul, you are a gentleman and a scholar lol. And yea, the post is spot on but if fans want to grieve a little and vent for a bit, I think that should be OK. As long as we're not in GSL October and we're still talking about how HuK sold out and should be representing oGs-TL in code S.
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
Hahahaha Rek always telling it like how it is. <3
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On August 17 2011 10:52 bkrow wrote:
EG pretty much exists in direct rivalry with liquid.
players come and go, wizards are forever.
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On August 17 2011 10:37 jambOng wrote:
What does Rekrul do these days?
He's finally felt the need to settle down and start a family. He married a single mother, and he takes her and his new child out to see Broadway musicals because he feels they need more culture. He also decided he would only drink scotch from now on; a real man's drink.
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I don't get all this discussion about EG not being able to develop players and not caring about player development and only PR when they just spend all this money on a house in AZ and now are spending money to ship three players to Korea to live together. If anything, they're the only foreign team (besides Liquid) that seems to be caring about player development at this point.
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On August 17 2011 10:55 ELlminator1 wrote:
Fans shouldn't feel betrayed. They should just listen to Rekrul and shut the fuck up.
Meh, it's always a bit sour to lose someone from 'your' team\
He has a point. but the news just came in so i don't think a week from now people are still raging.
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before SC2, the fans and the teams, This is good for huk himself, I wish more people could understand that
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Rekrul smashing noobies with his hammer of common sense.
The fact that HuK is suddenly gonna play against Liquid is kinda the suck, but it's not like he's gonna flip off the Liquid team every time he gets the chance. Calm down.
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On August 17 2011 11:11 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:He's finally felt the need to settle down and start a family. He married a single mother, and he takes her and his new child out to see Broadway musicals because he feels they need more culture. He also decided he would only drink scotch from now on; a real man's drink.
For seriouses?
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On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
To anyone throwing around words like traitor or sellout: Shut the fuck up.
This is a benchmark moment for non-korean players in the Starcraft world. The first time a major non-Korean player is switching from one big team to another 'big' team for big money. The very fact that this competition exists between major sponsored teams contesting to sign the top players is evidence of just how amazing the SC2 world will get.
It just shows that the raw marketing value of a player is there. How do you expect non-Korean players to compete at a Korean level unless they can focus on SC2 alone? They can't unless they have financial comfort. Now that comfort is coming in. Also, I don't know the specifics but I'd be willing to bet over half of his salary will be going towards paying for his travel expenses to all the tournaments: Which means more HuK for you guys to watch.
No one is to blame here. Not EG for having too much money, not TL for not having enough money (yet), and certainly not HuK. This is simply the way the world works.
As far as HuK is concerned: HuK is the most dedicated non-Korean player I have ever seen...in SC1 or SC2. And while his view of the world and how it works is a little too romantic for my tastes, the man has dedication. And while it was annoying at the time how he consistently rejected my offers to take him out in Seoul, I have crazy respect for it now. He worked hard to get where he is and he deserves every dime he can possibly get.
Not that anything I just wrote matters, because if you just read it either a. you already knew all this or b. you're a dumb fucken fan boy(girl).
Good luck to HuK in the future. And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.
P.S. TLO is a pimp.
It's a topsy-turvy world, and maybe the problems of two people don't amount to a hill of beans. But this is our hill. And these are our beans.
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On August 17 2011 11:24 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 11:11 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:On August 17 2011 10:37 jambOng wrote:
What does Rekrul do these days? He's finally felt the need to settle down and start a family. He married a single mother, and he takes her and his new child out to see Broadway musicals because he feels they need more culture. He also decided he would only drink scotch from now on; a real man's drink. For seriouses?
No, he's in Korea drinking his ass off like always I assume
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I think most TL fans are just feeling exactly what Cleveland fans felt when LeBron ditched them for Miami.
I'm not a big fan of HuK, but I'm still happy for him.
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Someone made a similar point earlier: By the reasoning Rekrul is employing a significant counter-argument can be made. It is also good for esports to have passionate fans. All major sports have passionate fans who get dejected when one of their favorites "sells out" and if starcraft doesn't have those sorts of fans then that is bad for esports and is yet another indicator of it's small-time status. It is all very entertaining :D
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On August 17 2011 11:25 Frank Drebin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
To anyone throwing around words like traitor or sellout: Shut the fuck up.
This is a benchmark moment for non-korean players in the Starcraft world. The first time a major non-Korean player is switching from one big team to another 'big' team for big money. The very fact that this competition exists between major sponsored teams contesting to sign the top players is evidence of just how amazing the SC2 world will get.
It just shows that the raw marketing value of a player is there. How do you expect non-Korean players to compete at a Korean level unless they can focus on SC2 alone? They can't unless they have financial comfort. Now that comfort is coming in. Also, I don't know the specifics but I'd be willing to bet over half of his salary will be going towards paying for his travel expenses to all the tournaments: Which means more HuK for you guys to watch.
No one is to blame here. Not EG for having too much money, not TL for not having enough money (yet), and certainly not HuK. This is simply the way the world works.
As far as HuK is concerned: HuK is the most dedicated non-Korean player I have ever seen...in SC1 or SC2. And while his view of the world and how it works is a little too romantic for my tastes, the man has dedication. And while it was annoying at the time how he consistently rejected my offers to take him out in Seoul, I have crazy respect for it now. He worked hard to get where he is and he deserves every dime he can possibly get.
Not that anything I just wrote matters, because if you just read it either a. you already knew all this or b. you're a dumb fucken fan boy(girl).
Good luck to HuK in the future. And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.
P.S. TLO is a pimp. It's a topsy-turvy world, and maybe the problems of two people don't amount to a hill of beans. But this is our hill. And these are our beans.
LOL, nice
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TLADT24920 Posts
Nice blog, agree 100%. Competition is good for the game
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huk is doing himself a favor, stop being haters.
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Marshall Islands3404 Posts
im focused on getting yo 2 dollas nigga
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On August 17 2011 09:59 turdburgler wrote:
i would very much like to get on huks nuts
no homo
Kinky. But I like my sex the way I play basketball, one on one with as little dribbling as possible.
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P.S. TLO is a pimp.
a. you already knew all this or b. you already knew all this.
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Great post. Interesting and fun read, as are all of your comments.
I know that sounds sort out of place, but I just find all of your posts very interesting to read for some reason. Whoo.
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It hurts when a player who has matured and grown within your favorite team leaves for another one. It's similar when Alex Rodriguez left the Seattle Mariners for the Texas Ranger because they were offering more money. When you are so emotionally invested in a particular team, you feel betrayed when a player who has matured within the organization leaves for more money. To this day, whenever Alex Rodriguez comes to Safeco Field he gets booed.
A lot of people here are emotionally invested in Team Liquid. Many follow it as their hometown sports team. You grow up with it. You become attached to the players. When they leave for money, it hurts.
Ken Griffey Jr. left the Seattle Mariners for Cinncinati to play for his father and be closer to his family. The Seattle Mariner fans still love him to this day because he left the team not for money, but to be closer to his family. Fans appreciate players who show loyalty, love for their family, and passion for their games.
After Huk's move to EG, TLO recently said that he's going to become better than Huk for Team Liquid. This is why people like TLO. He is loyal, passionate, and dedicated.
Brotherhood and camaraderie should be an admired trait. Money comes and goes. The relationships that you make and nurture lasts for a lifetime. Huk said that Team Liquid was like a family. Well, he left his family.
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What I am getting out of all this is that EG is becoming sc2's version of the Toronto Maple Leafs. Pay a lot for your players but never win anything as a team.
I agree Rekrul
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MURICA15980 Posts
I'm glad you're posting more around here lately. It's been empty here without the Rekruler. haha.
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United States22883 Posts
On August 17 2011 11:25 Frank Drebin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
To anyone throwing around words like traitor or sellout: Shut the fuck up.
This is a benchmark moment for non-korean players in the Starcraft world. The first time a major non-Korean player is switching from one big team to another 'big' team for big money. The very fact that this competition exists between major sponsored teams contesting to sign the top players is evidence of just how amazing the SC2 world will get.
It just shows that the raw marketing value of a player is there. How do you expect non-Korean players to compete at a Korean level unless they can focus on SC2 alone? They can't unless they have financial comfort. Now that comfort is coming in. Also, I don't know the specifics but I'd be willing to bet over half of his salary will be going towards paying for his travel expenses to all the tournaments: Which means more HuK for you guys to watch.
No one is to blame here. Not EG for having too much money, not TL for not having enough money (yet), and certainly not HuK. This is simply the way the world works.
As far as HuK is concerned: HuK is the most dedicated non-Korean player I have ever seen...in SC1 or SC2. And while his view of the world and how it works is a little too romantic for my tastes, the man has dedication. And while it was annoying at the time how he consistently rejected my offers to take him out in Seoul, I have crazy respect for it now. He worked hard to get where he is and he deserves every dime he can possibly get.
Not that anything I just wrote matters, because if you just read it either a. you already knew all this or b. you're a dumb fucken fan boy(girl).
Good luck to HuK in the future. And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.
P.S. TLO is a pimp. It's a topsy-turvy world, and maybe the problems of two people don't amount to a hill of beans. But this is our hill. And these are our beans.
My first thought was Ninja Turtles! Then I remembered Casablanca.
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TLO for life.
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Rekrul hmm
Everytime I hear something about rekrul I think about that gif of lilsusie/tasteless and you goofing around at OSL I think :D
But you're right. HuK going to EG for money is a big thing for e-sports and shows how much potential sc2 has right now and it could grow even higher.
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I'm a smart fucking fan boy.
And I already knew all that.
I'm not mad at anybody....
but christ I'm sad.
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Rekrul: straightforward and blunt, as always.
If HuK finally accepts your offer to take him out and show him around Seoul, let him know that he still has a lot of fan support! Someone on TS yesterday mentioned that EG is recruiting "results," and I somewhat agree, I think what they need is a solid professional coach that can command respect from the players (even IdrA) and keep individual egos in check.
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Finally someone came out and said it. Right fucking on Rekrul.
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Great blog.
I don't think you understand the phrase "Get off X's nuts" though.
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this is going to be fun having HuK on the same team as Idra. I hope Huk makes alot of hallucinations.... 
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Now that rekrul posted, im not angry anymore! yay!
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Agreed. This whole thing is a positive for the scene as a whole, even if it burns for liquid fans
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On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
Good luck to HuK in the future. And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.
P.S. TLO is a pimp.
LOOOOL after all these years you still hate Idra.
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When you're on somebody's nuts, you're harrassing them. But when you're on somebody's dick, you're sucking up to them. Somebody needs to standardize these metaphors.
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TLO is pretty fucking pimp, not gonna lie, he needs to wear that pimp hat everywhere.
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I'd like to know how many of the people shittalking huk would turn down a 6 figure salary to play starcraft.
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On August 17 2011 21:33 Grettin wrote:
Finally someone came out and said it. Right fucking on Rekrul.
Finally? It's been a recurring comment, even since before it was announced even if you check the hype thread.
But of course people will call HuK a sellout and even a traitor. If you've got real caring fans, you will get passionate responses... sure most are probably just fans of good SC2 or exciting esports in general, but for those who care about stars and team affiliations - negative comments will be typed and some would even argue that's the way it should be in a competitive scene.
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On August 17 2011 09:50 Cyberspace1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
To anyone throwing around worlds like traitor or sellout: Shut the fuck up.
This is a benchmark moment for non-korean players in the Starcraft world. The first time a major non-Korean player is switching from one big team to another 'big' team for big money. The very fact that this competition exists between major sponsored teams contesting to sign the top players is evidence of just how amazing the SC2 world will get.
It just shows that the raw marketing value of a player is there. How do you expect non-Korean players to compete at a Korean level unless they can focus on SC2 alone? They can't unless they have financial comfort. Now that comfort is coming in. Also, I don't know the specifics but I'd be willing to bet over half of his salary will be going towards paying for his travel expenses to all the tournaments: Which means more HuK for you guys to watch.
No one is to blame here. Not EG for having too much money, not TL for not having enough money (yet), and certainly not HuK. This is simply the way the world works.
As far as HuK is concerned: HuK is the most dedicated non-Korean player I have ever seen...in SC1 or SC2. And while his view of the world and how it works is a little too romantic for my tastes, the man has dedication. And while it was annoying at the time how he consistently rejected my offers to take him out in Seoul, I have crazy respect for it now. He worked hard to get where he is and he deserves every dime he can possibly get.
Not that anything I just wrote matters, because if you just read it either a. you already knew all this or b. you're a dumb fucken fan boy(girl).
Good luck to HuK in the future. And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.
P.S. TLO is a pimp. QFT. EG needs to send the rest of their team to Korea as well. i don't think it's an issue of eg sending their team, they've shown they have the cash. it's about the players not wanting to play from korea as they lose out on potential cash they make from NA/EU tournies. basically they don't think it's worth it to be spending time in korea to compete for a spot in code a/s that's gonna net them way less cash. and of course they don't speak korean and all that rl jazz.
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On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.
loool
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5 Star thread, will read to grandchildren.
So much truth in that post, gj.
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On August 18 2011 00:16 Malgrif wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 09:50 Cyberspace1 wrote:On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
To anyone throwing around worlds like traitor or sellout: Shut the fuck up.
This is a benchmark moment for non-korean players in the Starcraft world. The first time a major non-Korean player is switching from one big team to another 'big' team for big money. The very fact that this competition exists between major sponsored teams contesting to sign the top players is evidence of just how amazing the SC2 world will get.
It just shows that the raw marketing value of a player is there. How do you expect non-Korean players to compete at a Korean level unless they can focus on SC2 alone? They can't unless they have financial comfort. Now that comfort is coming in. Also, I don't know the specifics but I'd be willing to bet over half of his salary will be going towards paying for his travel expenses to all the tournaments: Which means more HuK for you guys to watch.
No one is to blame here. Not EG for having too much money, not TL for not having enough money (yet), and certainly not HuK. This is simply the way the world works.
As far as HuK is concerned: HuK is the most dedicated non-Korean player I have ever seen...in SC1 or SC2. And while his view of the world and how it works is a little too romantic for my tastes, the man has dedication. And while it was annoying at the time how he consistently rejected my offers to take him out in Seoul, I have crazy respect for it now. He worked hard to get where he is and he deserves every dime he can possibly get.
Not that anything I just wrote matters, because if you just read it either a. you already knew all this or b. you're a dumb fucken fan boy(girl).
Good luck to HuK in the future. And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.
P.S. TLO is a pimp. QFT. EG needs to send the rest of their team to Korea as well. i don't think it's an issue of eg sending their team, they've shown they have the cash. it's about the players not wanting to play from korea as they lose out on potential cash they make from NA/EU tournies. basically they don't think it's worth it to be spending time in korea to compete for a spot in code a/s that's gonna net them way less cash. and of course they don't speak korean and all that rl jazz.
the people on EG who arent idra dont win any money anyway :p they are just scared to see how far they have to go, which i guess i can understand but as idra says, if you want to be the best you have to go to korea.
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On August 18 2011 00:16 Malgrif wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 09:50 Cyberspace1 wrote:On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
To anyone throwing around worlds like traitor or sellout: Shut the fuck up.
This is a benchmark moment for non-korean players in the Starcraft world. The first time a major non-Korean player is switching from one big team to another 'big' team for big money. The very fact that this competition exists between major sponsored teams contesting to sign the top players is evidence of just how amazing the SC2 world will get.
It just shows that the raw marketing value of a player is there. How do you expect non-Korean players to compete at a Korean level unless they can focus on SC2 alone? They can't unless they have financial comfort. Now that comfort is coming in. Also, I don't know the specifics but I'd be willing to bet over half of his salary will be going towards paying for his travel expenses to all the tournaments: Which means more HuK for you guys to watch.
No one is to blame here. Not EG for having too much money, not TL for not having enough money (yet), and certainly not HuK. This is simply the way the world works.
As far as HuK is concerned: HuK is the most dedicated non-Korean player I have ever seen...in SC1 or SC2. And while his view of the world and how it works is a little too romantic for my tastes, the man has dedication. And while it was annoying at the time how he consistently rejected my offers to take him out in Seoul, I have crazy respect for it now. He worked hard to get where he is and he deserves every dime he can possibly get.
Not that anything I just wrote matters, because if you just read it either a. you already knew all this or b. you're a dumb fucken fan boy(girl).
Good luck to HuK in the future. And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.
P.S. TLO is a pimp. QFT. EG needs to send the rest of their team to Korea as well. i don't think it's an issue of eg sending their team, they've shown they have the cash. it's about the players not wanting to play from korea as they lose out on potential cash they make from NA/EU tournies. basically they don't think it's worth it to be spending time in korea to compete for a spot in code a/s that's gonna net them way less cash. and of course they don't speak korean and all that rl jazz.
Not like any of the EG players who are staying in the US are going to be winning any NA/EU tournaments.
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On August 18 2011 00:16 Malgrif wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 09:50 Cyberspace1 wrote:On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
To anyone throwing around worlds like traitor or sellout: Shut the fuck up.
This is a benchmark moment for non-korean players in the Starcraft world. The first time a major non-Korean player is switching from one big team to another 'big' team for big money. The very fact that this competition exists between major sponsored teams contesting to sign the top players is evidence of just how amazing the SC2 world will get.
It just shows that the raw marketing value of a player is there. How do you expect non-Korean players to compete at a Korean level unless they can focus on SC2 alone? They can't unless they have financial comfort. Now that comfort is coming in. Also, I don't know the specifics but I'd be willing to bet over half of his salary will be going towards paying for his travel expenses to all the tournaments: Which means more HuK for you guys to watch.
No one is to blame here. Not EG for having too much money, not TL for not having enough money (yet), and certainly not HuK. This is simply the way the world works.
As far as HuK is concerned: HuK is the most dedicated non-Korean player I have ever seen...in SC1 or SC2. And while his view of the world and how it works is a little too romantic for my tastes, the man has dedication. And while it was annoying at the time how he consistently rejected my offers to take him out in Seoul, I have crazy respect for it now. He worked hard to get where he is and he deserves every dime he can possibly get.
Not that anything I just wrote matters, because if you just read it either a. you already knew all this or b. you're a dumb fucken fan boy(girl).
Good luck to HuK in the future. And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.
P.S. TLO is a pimp. QFT. EG needs to send the rest of their team to Korea as well. i don't think it's an issue of eg sending their team, they've shown they have the cash. it's about the players not wanting to play from korea as they lose out on potential cash they make from NA/EU tournies. basically they don't think it's worth it to be spending time in korea to compete for a spot in code a/s that's gonna net them way less cash. and of course they don't speak korean and all that rl jazz.
Lol, because they make so much money losing every tournament they play in.
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On August 18 2011 01:41 Cyberspace1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2011 00:16 Malgrif wrote:On August 17 2011 09:50 Cyberspace1 wrote:On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
To anyone throwing around worlds like traitor or sellout: Shut the fuck up.
This is a benchmark moment for non-korean players in the Starcraft world. The first time a major non-Korean player is switching from one big team to another 'big' team for big money. The very fact that this competition exists between major sponsored teams contesting to sign the top players is evidence of just how amazing the SC2 world will get.
It just shows that the raw marketing value of a player is there. How do you expect non-Korean players to compete at a Korean level unless they can focus on SC2 alone? They can't unless they have financial comfort. Now that comfort is coming in. Also, I don't know the specifics but I'd be willing to bet over half of his salary will be going towards paying for his travel expenses to all the tournaments: Which means more HuK for you guys to watch.
No one is to blame here. Not EG for having too much money, not TL for not having enough money (yet), and certainly not HuK. This is simply the way the world works.
As far as HuK is concerned: HuK is the most dedicated non-Korean player I have ever seen...in SC1 or SC2. And while his view of the world and how it works is a little too romantic for my tastes, the man has dedication. And while it was annoying at the time how he consistently rejected my offers to take him out in Seoul, I have crazy respect for it now. He worked hard to get where he is and he deserves every dime he can possibly get.
Not that anything I just wrote matters, because if you just read it either a. you already knew all this or b. you're a dumb fucken fan boy(girl).
Good luck to HuK in the future. And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.
P.S. TLO is a pimp. QFT. EG needs to send the rest of their team to Korea as well. i don't think it's an issue of eg sending their team, they've shown they have the cash. it's about the players not wanting to play from korea as they lose out on potential cash they make from NA/EU tournies. basically they don't think it's worth it to be spending time in korea to compete for a spot in code a/s that's gonna net them way less cash. and of course they don't speak korean and all that rl jazz. Lol, because they make so much money losing every tournament they play in.
Ironically they might; since the sponsors want them to appear in foreign tournaments.
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On August 17 2011 10:01 nttea wrote:Typical post... this was easier to predict than someone calling him a traitor, i feel we have a right to be sad and dissapointed and from what i've seen so far that's mostly all of the negativity; huk will most likely be happy in his new team and life will go on
Being sad about what? Sounds like you're being selfish here.
Loyalty is a very valuable tool, but every person has to be loyal to themselves.
HuK made a tough choice, even though he was a great team-liquid member.
The only way you can be sad about this, is if you don't care about huk. And only care about Team-Liquid.
I compare this, to a NFL player leaving his team for a bigger salary. Ya the fan is going to be upset, because his loyalty lies with the team, regardless of who comes and goes, the fan follows the sport. And Football is a team sport, unlike starcraft where it's a 1v1 sport. Making teams just a support group.
Anyone who is disapointed in HuK. is like the OP said, FUKEN RETARDED.
You know. as an E-sport, all of this immaturity is really painful to watch, all of these drama lovers commenting on players team movements.
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!
Starcraft is new, we are one big GROUP, all supporting the same thing.
SC2 COMPETITION! People have to look at the bigger picture about this game as a sport.
Too be frank, I just think that alot of people dislike EG as a whole. Because they are willing to stick their neck out, Look at Incontrol. A great guy, who took alot of internet drama because of his Jokes... He doesn't even feel like his casting was as valuable as it was to the NASL. (when too most viewers he was the Star of the NASL, during the first 7 or so weeks I TUNED IN EVERY SINGLE NIGHT because of how much fun I had watching the NASL with incontrol and awkwardtorp.
This kind of bullshit only hurts our players and organisations and even worse. Could possibly impact sponsors.
Personally, I always had "Favored" players, mostly it's based on how much they impress me.
Players grow on me.
HuK was the first pro player I really liked, followed, and looked up all his videos I could find.
Seeing this kid from Ontario, where I grew up from. Entertain me, and become better over time has made me HIS FAN.
AS A HUK FAN,
I AM HAPPY for him. He is getting PAID to play the game!
I am happy he can now make an really worthwhile living Playing this game.
Because his dedication has meant alot to sooooo many fans.
So too anyone who flames huk.
Get you're brain damage cheked. Afterwards, cut yourself till you smile.
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400 years from now people will read the words of Rekrul as scripture, and it will be glorious.
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puma has talents, but his talents had no place to shine in bw because there are many other much brighter talents shining in that scene, idra on the other hand had no talents whatsoever, wasting his time in korea for 2 years and still got noob bashed by F91. Hence EG only having 2 talented players on their team. puma and huk.
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On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
P.S. TLO is a pimp.
Stopped reading right there. All has been said.
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On August 18 2011 06:18 zatic wrote:Stopped reading right there. All has been said.
so you stopped reading, at the end of the post?
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Summed up my thoughts pretty well. 5/5 well said.
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I wasn't on any particular bandwagon far as the HuK transfer was concerned, mostly just remaining a HuK fan (why wouldn't I? I was a fan before he was on liquid so lol)
But damn Rekrul, you're dropping some cold hard facts in here. I find myself compelled to agree with you fully on this matter. Including the pimp status of Dario Wunsch.
tl;dr Rekrul = Correct
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On August 18 2011 06:18 zatic wrote:Stopped reading right there. All has been said.
Stopped reading at the end of the rant, haha.
Good job turning down Rek for going out and "having a good time" and staying him and staying focused. Good luck, Chris.
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The best part about this thread is how I clicked on it :D
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Rekrul for President. straight up.
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A) I knew this,
B) liquid fanboys are indeed retarded. They just got hero and sheth, they will be fine relax guys.
Edit: To whoever banned the guy at top, Why? because he dropped 2 f bombs? Really?
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On August 18 2011 09:15 CurLy[] wrote:
A) I knew this,
B) liquid fanboys are indeed retarded. They just got hero and sheth, they will be fine relax guys.
Edit: To whoever banned the guy at top, Why? because he dropped 2 f bombs? Really?
'Cause he was unnecessarily hostile and rude to others. He could have expressed himself without calling others "fucking retarded" and such. Cursing isn't banworthy, but personal attacks are.
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It lives. Havent read me a good ol rek blog in ages
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NIGS GETTIN REK'D
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On August 18 2011 11:53 lokiM wrote:
NIGS GETTIN REK'D
I guess you're asking for a temp ban.
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On August 18 2011 06:46 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2011 06:18 zatic wrote:On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
P.S. TLO is a pimp. Stopped reading right there. All has been said. so you stopped reading, at the end of the post?
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
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Interesting in that it's similar to the TSL-EG thing with Puma, where TSL (or whoever) thought that they were losing a homegrown player wrongly. I think a lot of TL people see TL as being a down-to-earth, mom-and-pop team, and having Huk leave after being on the team feels like a betrayal for money.
This happens in sports too - in the NFL or NHL for example, if a standout player leaves for more money at the end of a contract people might feel a little betrayed. OTOH most understand and would do the same - follow the money.
I hope Huk has taken into account the level of competition that the new EG korea house can offer - Ogs-TL had some serious pros, I don't know what EG has besides Puma.
Rek does make a good point in that this is actually good for esports (to use that phrase): having players moving and following the money leads to more competition from teams for players (i.e. more money being thrown around for contracts/buyouts). If every player follows an informal rule of almost never changing teams, no matter how big a contract is given, then there is less of an incentive for teams to offer money for players.
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On August 18 2011 13:35 ptbl wrote:I guess you're asking for a temp ban.
You quoting him and speaking out about bans makes it okay for me to quote you and voice my opinion that you deserve a ban.
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I expected more kickassing on this thread Rekrul 
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"Huksnuts" is pretty funny to sound out in your head.
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On August 17 2011 11:13 Sc1pio wrote:
I don't get all this discussion about EG not being able to develop players and not caring about player development and only PR when they just spend all this money on a house in AZ and now are spending money to ship three players to Korea to live together. If anything, they're the only foreign team (besides Liquid) that seems to be caring about player development at this point.
Regardless of whether they care about player development, so far they havent developed any top notch players. Idra rode of the mechanics he had from BW and now has been underperforming for a good 4-5 months. None of their other players have any notable acheivments aside from players they have bought in the past 2 months.
We will see what becomes of their players in the future, even puma doesnt seem up to his normal game , mana took him out pretty easily at IEM last night. I think its a safe assumption that puma's play has deteriorated a bit since he left TSL. And at least for puma, its not going to do him much good living in a house with 2 other guys who dont speak his language. At least at the OGS TL house alot of the korean players have taken the time to try and learn english.
So until something changes and we see a some improvment (not deterioration) in either their top players (puma , huk) or their mid level players i would say they havent done a very good job with player development as of yet.
Edit: also only have 1 player from each race in a house, may be good for practicing matchups (cept mirror matches) but it wont be great for strategizing, before huk had alot of top level protoss players to talk to about strategies etc, as did puma. Now what do they have?
Regardless of whether Huk thinks that OGS will still train with him the same way, or puma thinks that TSL will still train with him. For the most part that wont be the case, those guys are gonna be busy with their own stuff and im sure some of them feel a little bit betrayed. Pro teams have to look after their own players first, including in house rankings, preparing players who make it deep in the GSL, coming up with team specific strategies that they WILL NOT share with anyone outside the team.
Honestly aside from maybe playing a few games with huk/ puma to help them with a strat they are having trouble with i doubt many players from their old teams will give them anywhere near the same support practice wise, they're on their own for the most part.
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On August 17 2011 23:34 Condor Hero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
Good luck to HuK in the future. And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.
P.S. TLO is a pimp. LOOOOL after all these years you still hate Idra.
I think it was a fair statement. Idra hasnt produced any impressive results in the past 5 months aside from IPL (wich was only north american for the first season , so i dont even consider it that impressive)
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lol why would I be on Huk's nuts.
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They are very comfortable to sit on. Rekrul just wants them for himself.
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Only 2 talented players on EG?
Demu getting overlooked again.
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On August 19 2011 15:19 Executor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 23:34 Condor Hero wrote:On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
Good luck to HuK in the future. And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.
P.S. TLO is a pimp. LOOOOL after all these years you still hate Idra. I think it was a fair statement. Idra hasnt produced any impressive results in the past 5 months aside from IPL (wich was only north american for the first season , so i dont even consider it that impressive)
I guess that means Huk wasn't talented a few months ago, since he hadn't won anything at that time. You can't base everything purely off of what competitions someone has won lately, as there are a lot of factors that can contribute to a title victory/defeat.
Idra was the highest placing foreigner at Columbus only very narrowly didn't get that in Anaheim, I think it's pretty unfair to say that he hasn't been performing well just because he doesn't have any 1st place victories when he's still showing relatively consistent top8 placings in tournaments dominated by Koreans. Not to mention Huk, Jinro, etc. got to practice alongside MC and co. while Idra had... NA ladder? Machine and Incontrol? No offense to inc or machine, but it's just not even close. I think adding Huk to the EG roster will help Idra a lot, provided they get along.
With that being said I hope they plan on getting a lot of good Korean practice partners, as I can't see EG benefiting Huk as much as the oGs-TL partnership did without him getting to talk/play against top-tier Koreans.
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Hahaha, Rekrul bringing the truth about Idra, only two talented players in EG: HuK and Puma.
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On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
To anyone throwing around words like traitor or sellout: Shut the fuck up.
This is a benchmark moment for non-korean players in the Starcraft world. The first time a major non-Korean player is switching from one big team to another 'big' team for big money. The very fact that this competition exists between major sponsored teams contesting to sign the top players is evidence of just how amazing the SC2 world will get.
It just shows that the raw marketing value of a player is there. How do you expect non-Korean players to compete at a Korean level unless they can focus on SC2 alone? They can't unless they have financial comfort. Now that comfort is coming in. Also, I don't know the specifics but I'd be willing to bet over half of his salary will be going towards paying for his travel expenses to all the tournaments: Which means more HuK for you guys to watch.
No one is to blame here. Not EG for having too much money, not TL for not having enough money (yet), and certainly not HuK. This is simply the way the world works.
As far as HuK is concerned: HuK is the most dedicated non-Korean player I have ever seen...in SC1 or SC2. And while his view of the world and how it works is a little too romantic for my tastes, the man has dedication. And while it was annoying at the time how he consistently rejected my offers to take him out in Seoul, I have crazy respect for it now. He worked hard to get where he is and he deserves every dime he can possibly get.
Not that anything I just wrote matters, because if you just read it either a. you already knew all this or b. you're a dumb fucken fan boy(girl).
Good luck to HuK in the future. And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.
P.S. TLO is a pimp.
For a second I thought you were going to address Chris' fan boys, ha.
I think both have to get off his nuts and let the kid play.
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They must be some big nuts to be able to get stepped on. Why would anyone want to step on HuK's nuts? He'd probably hallucinate nuts to keep the real ones safe.
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On August 19 2011 22:23 legaton wrote:
Hahaha, Rekrul bringing the truth about Idra, only two talented players in EG: HuK and Puma.
Based on what?
I could say Sheth/Ret are the only good members of Team Liquid, and that every other member has not performed in month.
I am however not retarded and would not say that.
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On August 20 2011 03:44 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 22:23 legaton wrote:
Hahaha, Rekrul bringing the truth about Idra, only two talented players in EG: HuK and Puma. Based on what? I could say Sheth/Ret are the only good members of Team Liquid, and that every other member has not performed in month. I am however not retarded and would not say that.
haters gotta hate, just learn to ignore them :p
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On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
This is a benchmark moment for non-korean players in the Starcraft world. The first time a major non-Korean player is switching from one big team to another 'big' team for big money. The very fact that this competition exists between major sponsored teams contesting to sign the top players is evidence of just how amazing the SC2 world will get.
I don't think it is just about big money though. While Teamliquid is the foremost followed and recognized team within the context of Starcraft; I think EG has a much greater recognition and following within e-sports as whole simply due to the fact that they have so many other teams. Their CS team is very good and up until a few months ago they had arguable the best WC3 player in the world, Grubby. Not to mention they 3(?) other teams they have. They also have far more endorsement deals which can also help to raise a player's notoriety. Go to the store and take a look at any of the boxes for Razer mice and you will see a story on the back about how so-and-so from team EG uses that mouse. Advertising like that can help the athlete (or in this case gamer) get exposure just as much as the product. Granted they don't have the full backing of an awesome community, but we should recognize that moving to EG may have more benefits to Huk's career than just money.
On August 17 2011 16:49 ptbl wrote:
It hurts when a player who has matured and grown within your favorite team leaves for another one. It's similar when Alex Rodriguez left the Seattle Mariners for the Texas Ranger because they were offering more money. When you are so emotionally invested in a particular team, you feel betrayed when a player who has matured within the organization leaves for more money. To this day, whenever Alex Rodriguez comes to Safeco Field he gets booed.
A lot of people here are emotionally invested in Team Liquid. Many follow it as their hometown sports team. You grow up with it. You become attached to the players. When they leave for money, it hurts.
Ken Griffey Jr. left the Seattle Mariners for Cinncinati to play for his father and be closer to his family. The Seattle Mariner fans still love him to this day because he left the team not for money, but to be closer to his family. Fans appreciate players who show loyalty, love for their family, and passion for their games.
After Huk's move to EG, TLO recently said that he's going to become better than Huk for Team Liquid. This is why people like TLO. He is loyal, passionate, and dedicated.
Brotherhood and camaraderie should be an admired trait. Money comes and goes. The relationships that you make and nurture lasts for a lifetime. Huk said that Team Liquid was like a family. Well, he left his family.
This is well said and true, but I feel that an addendum should be made. This really only applies for good players. If Huk were terrible, no one would care that he was leaving TL, and likely they would probably encourage it.
Huk is doing what he feels is best for Huk. While his departure will likely hurt TL, I don't believe Huk can be held responsible for that; a team is about more than just one person.
@Rekrul please also note that Ret is a pimp too, at least when playing SC2 idk about irl....
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Not hating but this does make me think how much is Nestea/MVP/MC worth?
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On August 20 2011 06:03 Aegeis wrote:
Not hating but this does make me think how much is Nestea/MVP/MC worth?
As Artosis mentioned, and this was Artosis not hyping a player up so it might actually be trustworthy information, a lot of S-/A-class players got locked into deals with their teams for very very little.
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no doubt i was very sad that HuK is leaving TL - but hes a pro-gamer, so its the same as in football: every player has to look what the best for him at a certain time is, and for HuK it was to go to EG. As for TL, they got HerO - and I LOVE this guy, he's at least as good as HuK and its fun to watch him. Best luck to you HuK!
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