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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 01:04:43
August 17 2011 00:42 GMT
#1
To anyone throwing around words like traitor or sellout: Shut the fuck up.

This is a benchmark moment for non-korean players in the Starcraft world. The first time a major non-Korean player is switching from one big team to another 'big' team for big money. The very fact that this competition exists between major sponsored teams contesting to sign the top players is evidence of just how amazing the SC2 world will get.

It just shows that the raw marketing value of a player is there. How do you expect non-Korean players to compete at a Korean level unless they can focus on SC2 alone? They can't unless they have financial comfort. Now that comfort is coming in. Also, I don't know the specifics but I'd be willing to bet over half of his salary will be going towards paying for his travel expenses to all the tournaments: Which means more HuK for you guys to watch.

No one is to blame here. Not EG for having too much money, not TL for not having enough money (yet), and certainly not HuK. This is simply the way the world works.

As far as HuK is concerned: HuK is the most dedicated non-Korean player I have ever seen...in SC1 or SC2. And while his view of the world and how it works is a little too romantic for my tastes, the man has dedication. And while it was annoying at the time how he consistently rejected my offers to take him out in Seoul, I have crazy respect for it now. He worked hard to get where he is and he deserves every dime he can possibly get.

Not that anything I just wrote matters, because if you just read it either a. you already knew all this or b. you're a dumb fucken fan boy(girl).

Good luck to HuK in the future. And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.

P.S. TLO is a pimp.

****
why so 진지해?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 17 2011 00:44 GMT
#2
Your mastery of the english language, your suave articulation, it just astounds me.

Also I guess great point, but thats a lesser thing :D.

Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 17 2011 00:44 GMT
#3
On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
To anyone throwing around worlds like traitor or sellout: Shut the fuck up.

This is a benchmark moment for non-korean players in the Starcraft world. The first time a major non-Korean player is switching from one big team to another 'big' team for big money. The very fact that this competition exists between major sponsored teams contesting to sign the top players is evidence of just how amazing the SC2 world will get.

It just shows that the raw marketing value of a player is there. How do you expect non-Korean players to compete at a Korean level unless they can focus on SC2 alone? They can't unless they have financial comfort. Now that comfort is coming in. Also, I don't know the specifics but I'd be willing to bet over half of his salary will be going towards paying for his travel expenses to all the tournaments: Which means more HuK for you guys to watch.

No one is to blame here. Not EG for having too much money, not TL for not having enough money (yet), and certainly not HuK. This is simply the way the world works.

As far as HuK is concerned: HuK is the most dedicated non-Korean player I have ever seen...in SC1 or SC2. And while his view of the world and how it works is a little too romantic for my tastes, the man has dedication. And while it was annoying at the time how he consistently rejected my offers to take him out in Seoul, I have crazy respect for it now. He worked hard to get where he is and he deserves every dime he can possibly get.

Not that anything I just wrote matters, because if you just read it either a. you already knew all this or b. you're a dumb fucken fan boy(girl).

Good luck to HuK in the future. And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.

P.S. TLO is a pimp.

Damn straight.
WriterXiao8~~
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
August 17 2011 00:44 GMT
#4
EG hasn't shown a sustainable way of player development the way oGs-TL have. No, having one player of each race in a Korean house is not going to cut it. Until they show dedication to coaching and player development, I have to write this move as a negative one for Huk's development as a player.
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
August 17 2011 00:45 GMT
#5
Rekrul laying down the law.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Bartiemus
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand84 Posts
August 17 2011 00:47 GMT
#6
I say good on Huk for being able to do some thing like this it was probably one of the hardest descion he has had to make for his career.
Id rather just kill you and call it a day.
DrunkeN.
Profile Joined September 2010
United States406 Posts
August 17 2011 00:47 GMT
#7
The Vocal Minority is getting to you man.
Sky0
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States214 Posts
August 17 2011 00:47 GMT
#8
On August 17 2011 09:44 Kraznaya wrote:
EG hasn't shown a sustainable way of player development the way oGs-TL have. No, having one player of each race in a Korean house is not going to cut it. Until they show dedication to coaching and player development, I have to write this move as a negative one for Huk's development as a player.



Idra was Code S without any team house in korea? Do you think Huk was actually having full in depth conversations with such a language barrier in the ogs house? Huk will still have the same practice partners he just wont be sharing a bathroom with them. If anything the environment will be better for huk, he will feel a lot more comfortable with his living situation.
"We are not retreating, we are advancing in another direction"
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
August 17 2011 00:48 GMT
#9
On August 17 2011 09:47 Sky0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 09:44 Kraznaya wrote:
EG hasn't shown a sustainable way of player development the way oGs-TL have. No, having one player of each race in a Korean house is not going to cut it. Until they show dedication to coaching and player development, I have to write this move as a negative one for Huk's development as a player.



Idra was Code S without any team house in korea? Do you think Huk was actually having full in depth conversations with such a language barrier in the ogs house? Huk will still have the same practice partners he just wont be sharing a bathroom with them. If anything the environment will be better for huk, he will feel a lot more comfortable with his living situation.


Idra was Code S back when Code S was shit, and he was one of the few with a BW B-teamer background.

Huk improved drastically since moving to the oGs house and practicing next to MC. Just look at where Kiwikaki is now. Huk was Kiwikaki level back when he was on Millenium.
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
looknohands119
Profile Joined March 2010
United States815 Posts
August 17 2011 00:48 GMT
#10
Rekrul, you speak the honest truth.
"The kingdom of the heavens is buried treasure. Would you sell yourself to buy the one you've found?" - Jon Foreman ('Your Love Is Strong' - Spring EP)
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
August 17 2011 00:49 GMT
#11
Only rekrul can make me agree with this shit.
화이팅
cyberspace
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada955 Posts
August 17 2011 00:50 GMT
#12
On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
To anyone throwing around worlds like traitor or sellout: Shut the fuck up.

This is a benchmark moment for non-korean players in the Starcraft world. The first time a major non-Korean player is switching from one big team to another 'big' team for big money. The very fact that this competition exists between major sponsored teams contesting to sign the top players is evidence of just how amazing the SC2 world will get.

It just shows that the raw marketing value of a player is there. How do you expect non-Korean players to compete at a Korean level unless they can focus on SC2 alone? They can't unless they have financial comfort. Now that comfort is coming in. Also, I don't know the specifics but I'd be willing to bet over half of his salary will be going towards paying for his travel expenses to all the tournaments: Which means more HuK for you guys to watch.

No one is to blame here. Not EG for having too much money, not TL for not having enough money (yet), and certainly not HuK. This is simply the way the world works.

As far as HuK is concerned: HuK is the most dedicated non-Korean player I have ever seen...in SC1 or SC2. And while his view of the world and how it works is a little too romantic for my tastes, the man has dedication. And while it was annoying at the time how he consistently rejected my offers to take him out in Seoul, I have crazy respect for it now. He worked hard to get where he is and he deserves every dime he can possibly get.

Not that anything I just wrote matters, because if you just read it either a. you already knew all this or b. you're a dumb fucken fan boy(girl).

Good luck to HuK in the future. And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.

P.S. TLO is a pimp.


QFT. EG needs to send the rest of their team to Korea as well.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
August 17 2011 00:51 GMT
#13
...Even saw the lights of the new year blimp, and it read "TLO's a pimp"..

Now take the rest of the song in the same context, just a day in TLO's thug life.

But on a side note, yeah I agree with you, there is way too much silly blind EG hate just because they "stole" HuK.
memes are a dish best served dank
corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
August 17 2011 00:52 GMT
#14
summarized perfectly tbh
http://www.twitch.tv/corpsep0se
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
August 17 2011 00:55 GMT
#15
I synthesized Rekrul's post down to four words.

On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
Shut the fuck up.

I think this adequately conveys the message in his post.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 00:58:51
August 17 2011 00:55 GMT
#16
On August 17 2011 09:42 Rekrul wrote:
And more importantly good luck to EG because only having two talented players on your team isn't going to win you any super bowl rings.

ggwp

Also, we have liquid`jaedong. I'm happy

HB should also remove this photo, it's only feeding the flames at this point:
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Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
August 17 2011 00:55 GMT
#17
On August 17 2011 09:48 Kraznaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 09:47 Sky0 wrote:
On August 17 2011 09:44 Kraznaya wrote:
EG hasn't shown a sustainable way of player development the way oGs-TL have. No, having one player of each race in a Korean house is not going to cut it. Until they show dedication to coaching and player development, I have to write this move as a negative one for Huk's development as a player.



Idra was Code S without any team house in korea? Do you think Huk was actually having full in depth conversations with such a language barrier in the ogs house? Huk will still have the same practice partners he just wont be sharing a bathroom with them. If anything the environment will be better for huk, he will feel a lot more comfortable with his living situation.


Idra was Code S back when Code S was shit, and he was one of the few with a BW B-teamer background.

Huk improved drastically since moving to the oGs house and practicing next to MC. Just look at where Kiwikaki is now. Huk was Kiwikaki level back when he was on Millenium.



No one is suggesting that TL had zero to do with HuK's growth as a player. We are suggesting that TL isn't the ONLY reason he is as good as he is now. They get credit for helping him grow, not ALL the credit for him as a player. There is a difference.

Also, remember HuK isn't leaving anyone out to dry like he would be if he left a soccer team. Starcraft is an individual sport. Individuals win and lose the game.
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
August 17 2011 00:59 GMT
#18
i would very much like to get on huks nuts

no homo
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
August 17 2011 01:00 GMT
#19
On August 17 2011 09:55 Zeri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 09:48 Kraznaya wrote:
On August 17 2011 09:47 Sky0 wrote:
On August 17 2011 09:44 Kraznaya wrote:
EG hasn't shown a sustainable way of player development the way oGs-TL have. No, having one player of each race in a Korean house is not going to cut it. Until they show dedication to coaching and player development, I have to write this move as a negative one for Huk's development as a player.



Idra was Code S without any team house in korea? Do you think Huk was actually having full in depth conversations with such a language barrier in the ogs house? Huk will still have the same practice partners he just wont be sharing a bathroom with them. If anything the environment will be better for huk, he will feel a lot more comfortable with his living situation.


Idra was Code S back when Code S was shit, and he was one of the few with a BW B-teamer background.

Huk improved drastically since moving to the oGs house and practicing next to MC. Just look at where Kiwikaki is now. Huk was Kiwikaki level back when he was on Millenium.



No one is suggesting that TL had zero to do with HuK's growth as a player. We are suggesting that TL isn't the ONLY reason he is as good as he is now. They get credit for helping him grow, not ALL the credit for him as a player. There is a difference.

Also, remember HuK isn't leaving anyone out to dry like he would be if he left a soccer team. Starcraft is an individual sport. Individuals win and lose the game.


My point is that EG's training environment for HuK will not nearly be as good as oGs-TL's was, and therefore this move was a poor choice by him with regard to his development as a player. If he prioritizes cash over that, more power to him, but that isn't what is being discussed.
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
August 17 2011 01:01 GMT
#20
Typical post... this was easier to predict than someone calling him a traitor, i feel we have a right to be sad and dissapointed and from what i've seen so far that's mostly all of the negativity; huk will most likely be happy in his new team and life will go on
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