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On June 21 2011 09:29 avilo wrote:
I think you're missing the point...the top korean players/foreigners in korea are practicing 8+ hours a day in-house games with the other best players in korea.
Sure, some of that is probably ladder, but it's not just 8 hrs of random games or ladder. They learn and know and practice builds in and out against the other best players around.
lol avilo seems to be the only 1 who knows wtf is up...
there's tons of pros & amateurs outside of korea that practice 8hrs a day
And back in the BW days a lot of foreigners would practice insane amounts of times, between 8-12 hrs(depending on the guy) a day normally a day everyday with the random 1-2 day straight of nonstop gaming =P
it's not about just being able to train 8-14hrs a day, day after day nonstop for weeks & weeks/months lol, that's just like half or a third of the whole "train like a korean" rofl
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On June 21 2011 09:35 ShadowDrgn wrote:
I don't know about the SC2 pros, but the Korean BW players were all playing 14+ hours a day, not 8. I remember one interview with Flash where they asked him what he did outside of training hours, and he said that he played his off-races. Seriously, when he wasn't forced to play Starcraft, he played Starcraft. That's dedication.
That's not necessarily straight "dedication." Flash is in one of the most envious positions in life. He actually really enjoys his job. I swear if he was working a normal office job somewhere, he would still be playing SC in most of his free time. 14 hours is nothing to him, because it's just fun for him.
I think around 8-10 hours a day is a good healthy amount imo. Just look at pro athletes. They train every day, all day for big events. I actually don't agree with the 12+ hour korean schedule. It causes burn-outs too easily.
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having good players to practice with they can point out your mistakes
doing this for 8 hours you will become good even with no talent
asking a guy in the ladder what u did wrong
they probably tell you to gtfo noob
In any case good luck. I tried this in SC1 and I got worse after every game past the ~4-5 hour mark.
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I'll be expecting to see you eating kimchi chigae or something like that. If not, you're doing it all wrong. kimchi chigae or nothing at all! XD
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On June 21 2011 09:58 billy5000 wrote:
I'll be expecting to see you eating kimchi chigae or something like that. If not, you're doing it all wrong. kimchi chigae or nothing at all! XD
Do not own a webcam so it won't happen  . But anyways I think it would be a bad decision on my part to even show myself on stream. Due to many factors there could be a personal break in my mental being, so I don't want to turn into a gif or a youtube video.
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Well, good luck. I don't see where all the criticism is coming from.. he knows and says all the holes and problems with actually only doing this once out of complete random. It's still a good way to get a taste of what hardcore grinding is.
You should line up a bunch of practice partners.. ladder is worthless.
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On June 21 2011 09:52 KawaiiRice wrote:
having good players to practice with they can point out your mistakes
doing this for 8 hours you will become good even with no talent
asking a guy in the ladder what u did wrong
they probably tell you to gtfo noob
In any case good luck. I tried this in SC1 and I got worse after every game past the ~4-5 hour mark.
lmao sounds accurate. if OP gets anything out of this, it will be good mass practice. The more games you play the better (unless you're tilting at some point, then just stop).
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Mmm, this brings up ideas.
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On June 21 2011 09:29 masterbreti wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 09:23 Complete wrote:
its about 8++ hours...A DAY. Not for a single day.
I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish. Just an experiment. I want to know how this sort of practice effects the brain. not only that but effects the nerves and overall skill.
by playing like that for a single day? won't get much relevant info out of that.
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After aquiring a few energy drinks. I am pumped and impaitent. I have decided this goes live in an hour and a half. I will stream from 11pm est to 7am est tonight. Lets see if I can break my mental barrier while we are at it.
On June 21 2011 09:52 KawaiiRice wrote:
having good players to practice with they can point out your mistakes
doing this for 8 hours you will become good even with no talent
asking a guy in the ladder what u did wrong
they probably tell you to gtfo noob
In any case good luck. I tried this in SC1 and I got worse after every game past the ~4-5 hour mark.
You saying good luck to me means a lot. Thanks!
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playing long into the morning hours is a great way to ruin the positive benefits from 8hours of solid gaming if you get too tired to think well
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On June 21 2011 09:23 Complete wrote:
its about 8++ hours...A DAY. Not for a single day.
I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish.
Agreed, Although 1 time might show some results, really have to do it for at least a month for good results. I might try this sometime.
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On June 21 2011 09:29 avilo wrote:
I think you're missing the point...the top korean players/foreigners in korea are practicing 8+ hours a day in-house games with the other best players in korea.
Bingo.
But good luck nonetheless.
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The quality of practice is more important. I can ladder 8 hours a day every day and I will probably never win a single tournament.
Mass games will help you improve, but it will NOT make you a champion. The korean practice is many PRODUCTIVE hours. Not just random games against random people.
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On June 21 2011 09:29 masterbreti wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 09:23 Complete wrote:
its about 8++ hours...A DAY. Not for a single day.
I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish. Just an experiment. I want to know how this sort of practice effects the brain. not only that but effects the nerves and overall skill.
what do you mean affects the brain? lol it's not a damn drug. not sure what you are trying to prove, we already know that playing for 8 hours a day is tasking on a person. just because you have never tried it doesn't mean you won't know that it will be hard. I dont need to run 30 miles to know that it'll be a pain.
the fact is that it sucks hard, but the koreans just suck it up and do it everyday.
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On June 21 2011 10:53 Golgotha wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 09:29 masterbreti wrote:On June 21 2011 09:23 Complete wrote:
its about 8++ hours...A DAY. Not for a single day.
I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish. Just an experiment. I want to know how this sort of practice effects the brain. not only that but effects the nerves and overall skill. what do you mean affects the brain? lol it's not a damn drug. not sure what you are trying to prove, we already know that playing for 8 hours a day is tasking on a person. just because you have never tried it doesn't mean you won't know that it will be hard. I dont need to run 30 miles to know that it'll be a pain. the fact is that it sucks hard, but the koreans just suck it up and do it everyday.
I should replace brain with mentality or mental state. I studied psychology. A lot of times I may replace these words and exchange them by mistake.
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Anyone can play SC2 for 8 hours with a little motivation...but can you do it consistently...every day?
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On the weekend, some friends and myself went to my buddies cabin at a ski hill and did nothing but play sc2 and watch dreamhack. Played for 8 hours on friday either laddering or playing customs vs each other(similiar skill level) with breaks only for dinner and the drive up to the hill (started at my house then left). Tried to stay up for Dreamhack(2 am pst) but was wiped from the games. Next day, wake up and there is dreamhack on the big screen and one of my buddies already laddering. It motivated me to play and another ladder session began with only breaks being Kraft dinner for lunch, an hour long run around the resort, and dinner. I had bought a mechanical keyboard and didnt have the time to really play with it till this weekend. My apm went up by 15, but may have also increased just from the amount of games I was playing. Overall, I would say it was tiring playing so many games, but I can see improvements in my play for sure. Doing it again next weekend lol
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On June 21 2011 09:21 masterbreti wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 09:18 Ulfsark wrote:
This may inspire me to do this for a week straight, I have the time since I am done with school until fall. Though I think a lot of pro players in the west practice around 8 hours a day,
I think it is the time as well as the environment that makes their time slightly more efficient.
Practice in a Korean pro house is sort of like mining a high yield mineral patch haha.
Anyways good luck man! Well here is the thing. Koreans practice 8-12 hours a day. We don't, this is a test to see if we can auctally do it. Or if our own mentaliality won't let us. I took pschyology in school. So I want to see how my brain will take everything too.
You can do it, its not like its hard if you just make yourself to do it
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Going to be going live any minute now. Getting myself prepped and will start as soon as everything is perfect.
Hope to see people watching!!
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