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Can one practice like a Korean? A challenge

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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 01:25:47
June 21 2011 00:12 GMT
#1
So due to recent threads coming up about Korean practice methods. I have dedicaed to take it on as a personal challenge. I will tomorrow practice like a Korea. Do I solid 8 hour stint of practicing. Of course there will be some replay watching and some breaks. But generally I should make about 8 solid hours of practice.


This is a little personal challenge to myself to see if I can push my nerves to the limits, and push my own skill to the limit. I have the day off tomorrow so I thought why not. Everything I need done is already done for now.

I am a decent player. Ranked silver but have beaten high masters and high diamond players in macro matches, rank means almost nothing since I don't ladder. Otherwise I hope to see what exactly are the problems with non-Koreans. And why we would have so much trouble auctally doing such for 8 hours a day.


I should start around 11pm-7 am EST Tonight and will be streaming unless its too much for my internet to handle.

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Kalingingsong
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada633 Posts
June 21 2011 00:15 GMT
#2
please update us on your progress. I'm interested to see the effects this have on a player.
Dess.JadeFalcon
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 00:17:18
June 21 2011 00:17 GMT
#3
thats another reason for it. I have a mic and if streaming. you will hear everything. if I crash and burn, you will see that.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
June 21 2011 00:17 GMT
#4
good luck at this ^__^' will be hard I'd expect..
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DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
June 21 2011 00:18 GMT
#5
Best of luck. Hang in there.
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Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
June 21 2011 00:18 GMT
#6
This may inspire me to do this for a week straight, I have the time since I am done with school until fall. Though I think a lot of pro players in the west practice around 8 hours a day,

I think it is the time as well as the environment that makes their time slightly more efficient.

Practice in a Korean pro house is sort of like mining a high yield mineral patch haha.

Anyways good luck man!
gg wp
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 21 2011 00:21 GMT
#7
On June 21 2011 09:18 Ulfsark wrote:
This may inspire me to do this for a week straight, I have the time since I am done with school until fall. Though I think a lot of pro players in the west practice around 8 hours a day,

I think it is the time as well as the environment that makes their time slightly more efficient.

Practice in a Korean pro house is sort of like mining a high yield mineral patch haha.

Anyways good luck man!


Well here is the thing. Koreans practice 8-12 hours a day. We don't, this is a test to see if we can auctally do it. Or if our own mentaliality won't let us.

I took pschyology in school. So I want to see how my brain will take everything too.
CurLy[]
Profile Joined August 2010
United States759 Posts
June 21 2011 00:21 GMT
#8
Its not about practicing for 8 hours, its about practicing like a korean.

aka things like planned builds repeated over and over trying to find counters and then how to beat the counters etc...

I play some days for that long when ive got nothing to do, but I never really practice like a korean.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 21 2011 00:22 GMT
#9
Hahaha I just did a 5 hour stint and wow did I tank hard. Best of luck with your 8 hour!
Aquafresh
Profile Joined May 2007
United States824 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 00:24:36
June 21 2011 00:23 GMT
#10
Remember that practicing means more than simply queuing up match after match on the ladder or with teammates or whatever. BW pros would practice basic techniques with custom maps as well. For example look at ret and his many hours spent practicing muta-scourge micro for ZvZ on UMS maps when he was on eSTRO.

I don't know if this has carried over to SC2 or not with the simpler mechanics and lighter training regimens, but it seems like a good idea.

EDIT: Also it goes well with your reason for doing this. This sort of training is monotonous and tough to force yourself to do, but it will help you perfect your execution.
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
June 21 2011 00:23 GMT
#11
its about 8++ hours...A DAY. Not for a single day.

I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish.
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
June 21 2011 00:24 GMT
#12
What is/was your iCCup rank, yes I will judge you for it

Well if I had the time or the opportunity I would probably do the same sort of thing and spend (IMHO) way too much time on the computer, straight, but as it is that won't happen for me as I'd rather get crazy good at breakdance then increase my bragging-rights of ex-national #4 to current national #3 .
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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 21 2011 00:29 GMT
#13
On June 21 2011 09:23 Complete wrote:
its about 8++ hours...A DAY. Not for a single day.

I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish.

Just an experiment. I want to know how this sort of practice effects the brain. not only that but effects the nerves and overall skill.
gurrpp
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States437 Posts
June 21 2011 00:29 GMT
#14
Before you get too invested time wise I think it would be a good idea to try to get some coaching from someone who has been exposed to a korean pro house. Its not just about the sheer quantity of the practice, I'm sure the quality of the practice also has a lot to do with it.
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avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
June 21 2011 00:29 GMT
#15
I think you're missing the point...the top korean players/foreigners in korea are practicing 8+ hours a day in-house games with the other best players in korea.

Sure, some of that is probably ladder, but it's not just 8 hrs of random games or ladder. They learn and know and practice builds in and out against the other best players around.
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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 21 2011 00:33 GMT
#16
On June 21 2011 09:29 avilo wrote:
I think you're missing the point...the top korean players/foreigners in korea are practicing 8+ hours a day in-house games with the other best players in korea.

Sure, some of that is probably ladder, but it's not just 8 hrs of random games or ladder. They learn and know and practice builds in and out against the other best players around.


I understand this point. I get that it won't be exactly the same. I don't own a bunch of Koreans living in a apartment to use a guinea pigs for my experiments. This is how I am going to try to replicate it. See whats its like. and draw my conclusions from there.

Its an experiment. I am looking at it like a scientist looks at test tubes.
cojosc2
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States87 Posts
June 21 2011 00:34 GMT
#17
I would love to join!!! If you need a partner for a few games add me. CoJo.196. I need some motivation to play. Thanks dude!!! GL HF
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
June 21 2011 00:35 GMT
#18
Yeah, anyone can do it... but it isn't about the length of time you do it on one day. It is about consistently doing it 8-12 hours a day and having it be useful practice.

First you should actually slowly work your way up to 8 hours per day. So if you only do it 2 hours a day now. Next week do it 3 hours per day, then 4 per day the next week up to 8 per day finally. I highly doubt most people could do it without a coach or a ton of like minded starcraft players around them. Burning out is too easy when forcing yourself to practice and learn.

This just seems like a lazy way to try and get in their shoes for the day. Like saying you aren't going to eat for 24 hours tomorrow to see how people in Africa live. You HAVE to do it for an extended period of time to actually practice like the Koreans.
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ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
June 21 2011 00:35 GMT
#19
I don't know about the SC2 pros, but the Korean BW players were all playing 14+ hours a day, not 8. I remember one interview with Flash where they asked him what he did outside of training hours, and he said that he played his off-races. Seriously, when he wasn't forced to play Starcraft, he played Starcraft. That's dedication.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 00:40:05
June 21 2011 00:38 GMT
#20
On June 21 2011 09:35 Demonace34 wrote:
Yeah, anyone can do it... but it isn't about the length of time you do it on one day. It is about consistently doing it 8-12 hours a day and having it be useful practice.

First you should actually slowly work your way up to 8 hours per day. So if you only do it 2 hours a day now. Next week do it 3 hours per day, then 4 per day the next week up to 8 per day finally. I highly doubt most people could do it without a coach or a ton of like minded starcraft players around them. Burning out is too easy when forcing yourself to practice and learn.

This just seems like a lazy way to try and get in their shoes for the day. Like saying you aren't going to eat for 24 hours tomorrow to see how people in Africa live. You HAVE to do it for an extended period of time to actually practice like the Koreans.


Of course this is something I have considered. But tbh this is a one day experiment. It will be a simple experiment. Not something extravgent or something long and drawn out. I unbderstand the holes in the experiment.

Also I hope I will not be alone. i will have the support of stream watchers and such. So I will try to replace a room full of Koreans with you stream watchers.
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