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Can one practice like a Korean? A challenge

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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 01:25:47
June 21 2011 00:12 GMT
#1
So due to recent threads coming up about Korean practice methods. I have dedicaed to take it on as a personal challenge. I will tomorrow practice like a Korea. Do I solid 8 hour stint of practicing. Of course there will be some replay watching and some breaks. But generally I should make about 8 solid hours of practice.


This is a little personal challenge to myself to see if I can push my nerves to the limits, and push my own skill to the limit. I have the day off tomorrow so I thought why not. Everything I need done is already done for now.

I am a decent player. Ranked silver but have beaten high masters and high diamond players in macro matches, rank means almost nothing since I don't ladder. Otherwise I hope to see what exactly are the problems with non-Koreans. And why we would have so much trouble auctally doing such for 8 hours a day.


I should start around 11pm-7 am EST Tonight and will be streaming unless its too much for my internet to handle.

*
Kalingingsong
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada633 Posts
June 21 2011 00:15 GMT
#2
please update us on your progress. I'm interested to see the effects this have on a player.
Dess.JadeFalcon
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 00:17:18
June 21 2011 00:17 GMT
#3
thats another reason for it. I have a mic and if streaming. you will hear everything. if I crash and burn, you will see that.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
June 21 2011 00:17 GMT
#4
good luck at this ^__^' will be hard I'd expect..
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DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
June 21 2011 00:18 GMT
#5
Best of luck. Hang in there.
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Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
June 21 2011 00:18 GMT
#6
This may inspire me to do this for a week straight, I have the time since I am done with school until fall. Though I think a lot of pro players in the west practice around 8 hours a day,

I think it is the time as well as the environment that makes their time slightly more efficient.

Practice in a Korean pro house is sort of like mining a high yield mineral patch haha.

Anyways good luck man!
gg wp
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 21 2011 00:21 GMT
#7
On June 21 2011 09:18 Ulfsark wrote:
This may inspire me to do this for a week straight, I have the time since I am done with school until fall. Though I think a lot of pro players in the west practice around 8 hours a day,

I think it is the time as well as the environment that makes their time slightly more efficient.

Practice in a Korean pro house is sort of like mining a high yield mineral patch haha.

Anyways good luck man!


Well here is the thing. Koreans practice 8-12 hours a day. We don't, this is a test to see if we can auctally do it. Or if our own mentaliality won't let us.

I took pschyology in school. So I want to see how my brain will take everything too.
CurLy[]
Profile Joined August 2010
United States759 Posts
June 21 2011 00:21 GMT
#8
Its not about practicing for 8 hours, its about practicing like a korean.

aka things like planned builds repeated over and over trying to find counters and then how to beat the counters etc...

I play some days for that long when ive got nothing to do, but I never really practice like a korean.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 21 2011 00:22 GMT
#9
Hahaha I just did a 5 hour stint and wow did I tank hard. Best of luck with your 8 hour!
Aquafresh
Profile Joined May 2007
United States824 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 00:24:36
June 21 2011 00:23 GMT
#10
Remember that practicing means more than simply queuing up match after match on the ladder or with teammates or whatever. BW pros would practice basic techniques with custom maps as well. For example look at ret and his many hours spent practicing muta-scourge micro for ZvZ on UMS maps when he was on eSTRO.

I don't know if this has carried over to SC2 or not with the simpler mechanics and lighter training regimens, but it seems like a good idea.

EDIT: Also it goes well with your reason for doing this. This sort of training is monotonous and tough to force yourself to do, but it will help you perfect your execution.
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
June 21 2011 00:23 GMT
#11
its about 8++ hours...A DAY. Not for a single day.

I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish.
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
June 21 2011 00:24 GMT
#12
What is/was your iCCup rank, yes I will judge you for it

Well if I had the time or the opportunity I would probably do the same sort of thing and spend (IMHO) way too much time on the computer, straight, but as it is that won't happen for me as I'd rather get crazy good at breakdance then increase my bragging-rights of ex-national #4 to current national #3 .
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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 21 2011 00:29 GMT
#13
On June 21 2011 09:23 Complete wrote:
its about 8++ hours...A DAY. Not for a single day.

I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish.

Just an experiment. I want to know how this sort of practice effects the brain. not only that but effects the nerves and overall skill.
gurrpp
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States437 Posts
June 21 2011 00:29 GMT
#14
Before you get too invested time wise I think it would be a good idea to try to get some coaching from someone who has been exposed to a korean pro house. Its not just about the sheer quantity of the practice, I'm sure the quality of the practice also has a lot to do with it.
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avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
June 21 2011 00:29 GMT
#15
I think you're missing the point...the top korean players/foreigners in korea are practicing 8+ hours a day in-house games with the other best players in korea.

Sure, some of that is probably ladder, but it's not just 8 hrs of random games or ladder. They learn and know and practice builds in and out against the other best players around.
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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 21 2011 00:33 GMT
#16
On June 21 2011 09:29 avilo wrote:
I think you're missing the point...the top korean players/foreigners in korea are practicing 8+ hours a day in-house games with the other best players in korea.

Sure, some of that is probably ladder, but it's not just 8 hrs of random games or ladder. They learn and know and practice builds in and out against the other best players around.


I understand this point. I get that it won't be exactly the same. I don't own a bunch of Koreans living in a apartment to use a guinea pigs for my experiments. This is how I am going to try to replicate it. See whats its like. and draw my conclusions from there.

Its an experiment. I am looking at it like a scientist looks at test tubes.
cojosc2
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States87 Posts
June 21 2011 00:34 GMT
#17
I would love to join!!! If you need a partner for a few games add me. CoJo.196. I need some motivation to play. Thanks dude!!! GL HF
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
June 21 2011 00:35 GMT
#18
Yeah, anyone can do it... but it isn't about the length of time you do it on one day. It is about consistently doing it 8-12 hours a day and having it be useful practice.

First you should actually slowly work your way up to 8 hours per day. So if you only do it 2 hours a day now. Next week do it 3 hours per day, then 4 per day the next week up to 8 per day finally. I highly doubt most people could do it without a coach or a ton of like minded starcraft players around them. Burning out is too easy when forcing yourself to practice and learn.

This just seems like a lazy way to try and get in their shoes for the day. Like saying you aren't going to eat for 24 hours tomorrow to see how people in Africa live. You HAVE to do it for an extended period of time to actually practice like the Koreans.
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ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
June 21 2011 00:35 GMT
#19
I don't know about the SC2 pros, but the Korean BW players were all playing 14+ hours a day, not 8. I remember one interview with Flash where they asked him what he did outside of training hours, and he said that he played his off-races. Seriously, when he wasn't forced to play Starcraft, he played Starcraft. That's dedication.
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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 00:40:05
June 21 2011 00:38 GMT
#20
On June 21 2011 09:35 Demonace34 wrote:
Yeah, anyone can do it... but it isn't about the length of time you do it on one day. It is about consistently doing it 8-12 hours a day and having it be useful practice.

First you should actually slowly work your way up to 8 hours per day. So if you only do it 2 hours a day now. Next week do it 3 hours per day, then 4 per day the next week up to 8 per day finally. I highly doubt most people could do it without a coach or a ton of like minded starcraft players around them. Burning out is too easy when forcing yourself to practice and learn.

This just seems like a lazy way to try and get in their shoes for the day. Like saying you aren't going to eat for 24 hours tomorrow to see how people in Africa live. You HAVE to do it for an extended period of time to actually practice like the Koreans.


Of course this is something I have considered. But tbh this is a one day experiment. It will be a simple experiment. Not something extravgent or something long and drawn out. I unbderstand the holes in the experiment.

Also I hope I will not be alone. i will have the support of stream watchers and such. So I will try to replace a room full of Koreans with you stream watchers.
iG.Zeep
Profile Joined May 2008
Mexico253 Posts
June 21 2011 00:42 GMT
#21
On June 21 2011 09:29 avilo wrote:
I think you're missing the point...the top korean players/foreigners in korea are practicing 8+ hours a day in-house games with the other best players in korea.

Sure, some of that is probably ladder, but it's not just 8 hrs of random games or ladder. They learn and know and practice builds in and out against the other best players around.


lol avilo seems to be the only 1 who knows wtf is up...
there's tons of pros & amateurs outside of korea that practice 8hrs a day
And back in the BW days a lot of foreigners would practice insane amounts of times, between 8-12 hrs(depending on the guy) a day normally a day everyday with the random 1-2 day straight of nonstop gaming =P

it's not about just being able to train 8-14hrs a day, day after day nonstop for weeks & weeks/months lol, that's just like half or a third of the whole "train like a korean" rofl
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Gliche
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States811 Posts
June 21 2011 00:43 GMT
#22
On June 21 2011 09:35 ShadowDrgn wrote:
I don't know about the SC2 pros, but the Korean BW players were all playing 14+ hours a day, not 8. I remember one interview with Flash where they asked him what he did outside of training hours, and he said that he played his off-races. Seriously, when he wasn't forced to play Starcraft, he played Starcraft. That's dedication.

That's not necessarily straight "dedication." Flash is in one of the most envious positions in life. He actually really enjoys his job. I swear if he was working a normal office job somewhere, he would still be playing SC in most of his free time. 14 hours is nothing to him, because it's just fun for him.

I think around 8-10 hours a day is a good healthy amount imo. Just look at pro athletes. They train every day, all day for big events. I actually don't agree with the 12+ hour korean schedule. It causes burn-outs too easily.
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KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
June 21 2011 00:52 GMT
#23
having good players to practice with they can point out your mistakes
doing this for 8 hours you will become good even with no talent
asking a guy in the ladder what u did wrong
they probably tell you to gtfo noob

In any case good luck. I tried this in SC1 and I got worse after every game past the ~4-5 hour mark.
@KawaiiRiceLighT
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
June 21 2011 00:58 GMT
#24
I'll be expecting to see you eating kimchi chigae or something like that. If not, you're doing it all wrong. kimchi chigae or nothing at all! XD
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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 21 2011 01:02 GMT
#25
On June 21 2011 09:58 billy5000 wrote:
I'll be expecting to see you eating kimchi chigae or something like that. If not, you're doing it all wrong. kimchi chigae or nothing at all! XD


Do not own a webcam so it won't happen . But anyways I think it would be a bad decision on my part to even show myself on stream. Due to many factors there could be a personal break in my mental being, so I don't want to turn into a gif or a youtube video.
DuckS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
June 21 2011 01:18 GMT
#26
Well, good luck. I don't see where all the criticism is coming from.. he knows and says all the holes and problems with actually only doing this once out of complete random. It's still a good way to get a taste of what hardcore grinding is.

You should line up a bunch of practice partners.. ladder is worthless.
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avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
June 21 2011 01:19 GMT
#27
On June 21 2011 09:52 KawaiiRice wrote:
having good players to practice with they can point out your mistakes
doing this for 8 hours you will become good even with no talent
asking a guy in the ladder what u did wrong
they probably tell you to gtfo noob

In any case good luck. I tried this in SC1 and I got worse after every game past the ~4-5 hour mark.


lmao sounds accurate. if OP gets anything out of this, it will be good mass practice. The more games you play the better (unless you're tilting at some point, then just stop).
Sup
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 21 2011 01:19 GMT
#28
Mmm, this brings up ideas.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Diglett
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
600 Posts
June 21 2011 01:23 GMT
#29
On June 21 2011 09:29 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 09:23 Complete wrote:
its about 8++ hours...A DAY. Not for a single day.

I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish.

Just an experiment. I want to know how this sort of practice effects the brain. not only that but effects the nerves and overall skill.


by playing like that for a single day? won't get much relevant info out of that.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 01:31:09
June 21 2011 01:25 GMT
#30
After aquiring a few energy drinks. I am pumped and impaitent. I have decided this goes live in an hour and a half. I will stream from 11pm est to 7am est tonight. Lets see if I can break my mental barrier while we are at it.

On June 21 2011 09:52 KawaiiRice wrote:
having good players to practice with they can point out your mistakes
doing this for 8 hours you will become good even with no talent
asking a guy in the ladder what u did wrong
they probably tell you to gtfo noob

In any case good luck. I tried this in SC1 and I got worse after every game past the ~4-5 hour mark.


You saying good luck to me means a lot. Thanks!
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
June 21 2011 01:31 GMT
#31
playing long into the morning hours is a great way to ruin the positive benefits from 8hours of solid gaming if you get too tired to think well
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 21 2011 01:37 GMT
#32
On June 21 2011 09:23 Complete wrote:
its about 8++ hours...A DAY. Not for a single day.

I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish.

Agreed, Although 1 time might show some results, really have to do it for at least a month for good results. I might try this sometime.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 01:38:38
June 21 2011 01:38 GMT
#33
On June 21 2011 09:29 avilo wrote:
I think you're missing the point...the top korean players/foreigners in korea are practicing 8+ hours a day in-house games with the other best players in korea.


Bingo.


But good luck nonetheless.
yesplz
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States295 Posts
June 21 2011 01:51 GMT
#34
The quality of practice is more important. I can ladder 8 hours a day every day and I will probably never win a single tournament.

Mass games will help you improve, but it will NOT make you a champion. The korean practice is many PRODUCTIVE hours. Not just random games against random people.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
June 21 2011 01:53 GMT
#35
On June 21 2011 09:29 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 09:23 Complete wrote:
its about 8++ hours...A DAY. Not for a single day.

I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish.

Just an experiment. I want to know how this sort of practice effects the brain. not only that but effects the nerves and overall skill.


what do you mean affects the brain? lol it's not a damn drug. not sure what you are trying to prove, we already know that playing for 8 hours a day is tasking on a person. just because you have never tried it doesn't mean you won't know that it will be hard. I dont need to run 30 miles to know that it'll be a pain.

the fact is that it sucks hard, but the koreans just suck it up and do it everyday.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 21 2011 02:00 GMT
#36
On June 21 2011 10:53 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 09:29 masterbreti wrote:
On June 21 2011 09:23 Complete wrote:
its about 8++ hours...A DAY. Not for a single day.

I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish.

Just an experiment. I want to know how this sort of practice effects the brain. not only that but effects the nerves and overall skill.


what do you mean affects the brain? lol it's not a damn drug. not sure what you are trying to prove, we already know that playing for 8 hours a day is tasking on a person. just because you have never tried it doesn't mean you won't know that it will be hard. I dont need to run 30 miles to know that it'll be a pain.

the fact is that it sucks hard, but the koreans just suck it up and do it everyday.


I should replace brain with mentality or mental state. I studied psychology. A lot of times I may replace these words and exchange them by mistake.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
June 21 2011 02:03 GMT
#37
Anyone can play SC2 for 8 hours with a little motivation...but can you do it consistently...every day?
GPThunder
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada53 Posts
June 21 2011 02:12 GMT
#38
On the weekend, some friends and myself went to my buddies cabin at a ski hill and did nothing but play sc2 and watch dreamhack. Played for 8 hours on friday either laddering or playing customs vs each other(similiar skill level) with breaks only for dinner and the drive up to the hill (started at my house then left). Tried to stay up for Dreamhack(2 am pst) but was wiped from the games. Next day, wake up and there is dreamhack on the big screen and one of my buddies already laddering. It motivated me to play and another ladder session began with only breaks being Kraft dinner for lunch, an hour long run around the resort, and dinner. I had bought a mechanical keyboard and didnt have the time to really play with it till this weekend. My apm went up by 15, but may have also increased just from the amount of games I was playing. Overall, I would say it was tiring playing so many games, but I can see improvements in my play for sure. Doing it again next weekend lol

arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 21 2011 02:15 GMT
#39
On June 21 2011 09:21 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 09:18 Ulfsark wrote:
This may inspire me to do this for a week straight, I have the time since I am done with school until fall. Though I think a lot of pro players in the west practice around 8 hours a day,

I think it is the time as well as the environment that makes their time slightly more efficient.

Practice in a Korean pro house is sort of like mining a high yield mineral patch haha.

Anyways good luck man!


Well here is the thing. Koreans practice 8-12 hours a day. We don't, this is a test to see if we can auctally do it. Or if our own mentaliality won't let us.

I took pschyology in school. So I want to see how my brain will take everything too.

You can do it, its not like its hard if you just make yourself to do it
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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 21 2011 02:49 GMT
#40
Going to be going live any minute now. Getting myself prepped and will start as soon as everything is perfect.

Hope to see people watching!!
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
June 21 2011 02:50 GMT
#41
upgrade to 12-14 hours a day with like 1 hour of free time, and you'll have the regiment of many korean brood war teams.
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Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
June 21 2011 02:51 GMT
#42
You should probably talk to Princess/Terran/Juan about this--I think he tried this for a long time on BW on iCCup. He even got to the point where he slept and played Korean hours so he would only face Korean opponents.
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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 21 2011 02:58 GMT
#43
I'm Live!

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/masterbreti
psp219
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States315 Posts
June 21 2011 02:58 GMT
#44
Go ahead and post the link once you get live!
Mayor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States472 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 03:05:05
June 21 2011 03:04 GMT
#45
How long is this going to spaced out over? a month? Or are you just going to 'try it out' for like a week? Because I think it needs a lot of time to actually work.
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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 21 2011 03:22 GMT
#46
So it seems like streaming right now Is a huge load on my computer. I will contiune to practice tonight and will update peoleby the hour.

Will pick up more ram on the weekend to hopefully stream with better fps. for sure better than 10 fps though.
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
June 21 2011 03:27 GMT
#47
I'd recommend building up to 8 hours a day. Going from doing an hour or so of SC2 a day to 8 will just give you a headache after 3-4 hours. Say start out with 1 hour a day, do that for 3 days, then increase it by half an hour, do that for 3 days then another half hour. Repeat as much as you want.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 21 2011 04:07 GMT
#48
So hour one is complete. In this time I played 4 matches.

2 losses and 2 wins. my 2 ladder matches were both wins. they all in'ed me with some cheesy builds that were way off (11 min roach all in and a 4 immortal all in at the 13 min mark) the other 2 matches were streamed. I had horrid fps. so I excuse those.

Hour 2 coming. Will update as hour two is over.
osoup
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada56 Posts
June 21 2011 04:14 GMT
#49
Its probably going to help you a lot, I started playing quake with that game time, and in 4 days I was able to beat a 4 month decent players. The time is not the only reason but your work ethic ingame and your analysis post match is more important. Learn from better players and get raped 33-2 by monsters often , will help you, practice makes perfect if practice is perfect. So start perfecting your practice. So you can practice in a more practical way to have better practical results. The most important part is gl hf.
PsyChill
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia58 Posts
June 21 2011 04:38 GMT
#50
Sweet man let us know how it goes. Also talk about the things you were specifically practicing and not just mass gaming.
"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.” ~ Bruce Lee
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 21 2011 04:53 GMT
#51
Hour two is a little early. But anyways.

Getting rather sleepy. Not really playing well. Though in total out fo 6 matches. I've gone 3 and 3. I don't know if i'll be able tog et to hour 8 tbh. I might have to build up aNd do 2 for a few days then 3 then 4 then 5 then 6 then 7 then 8 then 8 then10 then 22.

Working on my chargelot fast expo build vs Terran
Ve zeg I am doing forge fast expands
and in PvP. Doing defensive 4gate into expo

I held my own vs mid masters verg. though Z is my weakest matchup. I played poorly though. he was able to just get to much info too quickly and destroy my army quickly.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
June 21 2011 05:21 GMT
#52
you're playing masters players in silver league?
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 21 2011 05:32 GMT
#53
On June 21 2011 14:21 Itsmedudeman wrote:
you're playing masters players in silver league?

yessssa. I no ladder

hour 3 wne tbad. Lost all matches.

Will try in morning again. goin to pass out now.
-swordguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States560 Posts
June 21 2011 06:24 GMT
#54
If I wasn't having surgery in a day I'd do it with you for motivation, gl though
I only regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale Cowards die many times before their deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once - William Shakespeare, ‘’Julius Caesar’’
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 06:53:05
June 21 2011 06:40 GMT
#55
kk, gogo GLHF starting now, going to see if I can keep it up for a week. Time Starts now, going to upload replays here and shit.


1 game, 1 win.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
dakalro
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania525 Posts
June 21 2011 07:16 GMT
#56
When you said "energy drinks" you already failed. You're doing this during the night and it's already wrong.
Do it during the day, with regular breaks (every 1-2h take 10 min off, stretch). Take time for a decent lunch. Have water and fruit for snacks. Use the night to sleep.

You have to realize this is not supposed to be some sort of prolonged gaming session but work, fortunately work with something you like.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 09:07:02
June 21 2011 07:44 GMT
#57
On June 21 2011 16:16 dakalro wrote:
When you said "energy drinks" you already failed. You're doing this during the night and it's already wrong.
Do it during the day, with regular breaks (every 1-2h take 10 min off, stretch). Take time for a decent lunch. Have water and fruit for snacks. Use the night to sleep.

You have to realize this is not supposed to be some sort of prolonged gaming session but work, fortunately work with something you like.


The question is, can one practice like a Korean, therefore we have to adopt it into our lifestyle = Full time day job or school, I have a full time day job, working starting in 7 hours. Can I still train like a Korean? We'll see.


2-1 so far.

I'll post replays to evaluate progress.

3-2

5-4 2.5 hours
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 21 2011 08:46 GMT
#58
On June 21 2011 16:44 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 16:16 dakalro wrote:
When you said "energy drinks" you already failed. You're doing this during the night and it's already wrong.
Do it during the day, with regular breaks (every 1-2h take 10 min off, stretch). Take time for a decent lunch. Have water and fruit for snacks. Use the night to sleep.

You have to realize this is not supposed to be some sort of prolonged gaming session but work, fortunately work with something you like.


The question is, can one practice like a Korean, therefore we have to adopt it into our lifestyle = Full time day job or school, I have a full time day job, working starting in 7 hours. Can I still train like a Korean? We'll see.


2-1 so far.

I'll post replays to evaluate progress.

3-2

W - Daemonarchy
W - Daemonarchy
L - Random guy(I'll get the name later
L - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
L - Dayfly

isnt it obvious no?
they dont have jobs they just play the game

yeah someone can practice like a korean the shits not difficult, i dont even know why this thread exists

sit and play the game for 8 hours a day with regular breaks and exercise like they do shits not fucking hard.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 21 2011 08:53 GMT
#59
On June 21 2011 17:46 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 16:44 Eywa- wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:16 dakalro wrote:
When you said "energy drinks" you already failed. You're doing this during the night and it's already wrong.
Do it during the day, with regular breaks (every 1-2h take 10 min off, stretch). Take time for a decent lunch. Have water and fruit for snacks. Use the night to sleep.

You have to realize this is not supposed to be some sort of prolonged gaming session but work, fortunately work with something you like.


The question is, can one practice like a Korean, therefore we have to adopt it into our lifestyle = Full time day job or school, I have a full time day job, working starting in 7 hours. Can I still train like a Korean? We'll see.


2-1 so far.

I'll post replays to evaluate progress.

3-2

W - Daemonarchy
W - Daemonarchy
L - Random guy(I'll get the name later
L - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
L - Dayfly

isnt it obvious no?
they dont have jobs they just play the game

yeah someone can practice like a korean the shits not difficult, i dont even know why this thread exists

sit and play the game for 8 hours a day with regular breaks and exercise like they do shits not fucking hard.


WHy so bm?
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
June 21 2011 09:07 GMT
#60
On June 21 2011 17:53 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 17:46 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:44 Eywa- wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:16 dakalro wrote:
When you said "energy drinks" you already failed. You're doing this during the night and it's already wrong.
Do it during the day, with regular breaks (every 1-2h take 10 min off, stretch). Take time for a decent lunch. Have water and fruit for snacks. Use the night to sleep.

You have to realize this is not supposed to be some sort of prolonged gaming session but work, fortunately work with something you like.


The question is, can one practice like a Korean, therefore we have to adopt it into our lifestyle = Full time day job or school, I have a full time day job, working starting in 7 hours. Can I still train like a Korean? We'll see.


2-1 so far.

I'll post replays to evaluate progress.

3-2

W - Daemonarchy
W - Daemonarchy
L - Random guy(I'll get the name later
L - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
L - Dayfly

isnt it obvious no?
they dont have jobs they just play the game

yeah someone can practice like a korean the shits not difficult, i dont even know why this thread exists

sit and play the game for 8 hours a day with regular breaks and exercise like they do shits not fucking hard.


WHy so bm?


Nigga that ain't BM arb keepin it real
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 09:20:52
June 21 2011 09:14 GMT
#61
I don't understand the point of this. You play for 8 hours for only 1 day? Please explain how this has anything to do with Koreans.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
June 21 2011 09:20 GMT
#62
On June 21 2011 17:46 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 16:44 Eywa- wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:16 dakalro wrote:
When you said "energy drinks" you already failed. You're doing this during the night and it's already wrong.
Do it during the day, with regular breaks (every 1-2h take 10 min off, stretch). Take time for a decent lunch. Have water and fruit for snacks. Use the night to sleep.

You have to realize this is not supposed to be some sort of prolonged gaming session but work, fortunately work with something you like.


The question is, can one practice like a Korean, therefore we have to adopt it into our lifestyle = Full time day job or school, I have a full time day job, working starting in 7 hours. Can I still train like a Korean? We'll see.


2-1 so far.

I'll post replays to evaluate progress.

3-2

W - Daemonarchy
W - Daemonarchy
L - Random guy(I'll get the name later
L - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
L - Dayfly

isnt it obvious no?
they dont have jobs they just play the game

yeah someone can practice like a korean the shits not difficult, i dont even know why this thread exists

sit and play the game for 8 hours a day with regular breaks and exercise like they do shits not fucking hard.

Its hard, believe me. If you have pressure to practice so you can take on people on tournament, imagine you've been practice your ass off for 2-3 months in preparation for..lets say GSL code A qualifier and you lost 1st row to some cheese or even worse, you just lost out right cos the other guy out played you so hard. That will be big hit.
Only the selected few with so much determination will have the will to keep going and going. I am sure as hell I can't even someone gives me 1 million dollars.

A normal daily job is much easier to cope with than playing games for 12 hours a day and try to win the tournament. Thats why I admire progamers.

Don't be so negative bro
Terran
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 21 2011 09:43 GMT
#63
On June 21 2011 18:20 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 17:46 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:44 Eywa- wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:16 dakalro wrote:
When you said "energy drinks" you already failed. You're doing this during the night and it's already wrong.
Do it during the day, with regular breaks (every 1-2h take 10 min off, stretch). Take time for a decent lunch. Have water and fruit for snacks. Use the night to sleep.

You have to realize this is not supposed to be some sort of prolonged gaming session but work, fortunately work with something you like.


The question is, can one practice like a Korean, therefore we have to adopt it into our lifestyle = Full time day job or school, I have a full time day job, working starting in 7 hours. Can I still train like a Korean? We'll see.


2-1 so far.

I'll post replays to evaluate progress.

3-2

W - Daemonarchy
W - Daemonarchy
L - Random guy(I'll get the name later
L - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
L - Dayfly

isnt it obvious no?
they dont have jobs they just play the game

yeah someone can practice like a korean the shits not difficult, i dont even know why this thread exists

sit and play the game for 8 hours a day with regular breaks and exercise like they do shits not fucking hard.

Its hard, believe me. If you have pressure to practice so you can take on people on tournament, imagine you've been practice your ass off for 2-3 months in preparation for..lets say GSL code A qualifier and you lost 1st row to some cheese or even worse, you just lost out right cos the other guy out played you so hard. That will be big hit.
Only the selected few with so much determination will have the will to keep going and going. I am sure as hell I can't even someone gives me 1 million dollars.

A normal daily job is much easier to cope with than playing games for 12 hours a day and try to win the tournament. Thats why I admire progamers.

Don't be so negative bro

I'm not being negative, if he wants to do it all power to him.

This isnt about GSL its about the OP and others wanting to do a practice schedule like a Korean, and as I said the shits not too hard to do.

I used to do it on BW all the time, and ive done it on other games too(playing all day with breaks etc)
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
June 21 2011 09:49 GMT
#64
On June 21 2011 18:43 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 18:20 Caphe wrote:
On June 21 2011 17:46 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:44 Eywa- wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:16 dakalro wrote:
When you said "energy drinks" you already failed. You're doing this during the night and it's already wrong.
Do it during the day, with regular breaks (every 1-2h take 10 min off, stretch). Take time for a decent lunch. Have water and fruit for snacks. Use the night to sleep.

You have to realize this is not supposed to be some sort of prolonged gaming session but work, fortunately work with something you like.


The question is, can one practice like a Korean, therefore we have to adopt it into our lifestyle = Full time day job or school, I have a full time day job, working starting in 7 hours. Can I still train like a Korean? We'll see.


2-1 so far.

I'll post replays to evaluate progress.

3-2

W - Daemonarchy
W - Daemonarchy
L - Random guy(I'll get the name later
L - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
L - Dayfly

isnt it obvious no?
they dont have jobs they just play the game

yeah someone can practice like a korean the shits not difficult, i dont even know why this thread exists

sit and play the game for 8 hours a day with regular breaks and exercise like they do shits not fucking hard.

Its hard, believe me. If you have pressure to practice so you can take on people on tournament, imagine you've been practice your ass off for 2-3 months in preparation for..lets say GSL code A qualifier and you lost 1st row to some cheese or even worse, you just lost out right cos the other guy out played you so hard. That will be big hit.
Only the selected few with so much determination will have the will to keep going and going. I am sure as hell I can't even someone gives me 1 million dollars.

A normal daily job is much easier to cope with than playing games for 12 hours a day and try to win the tournament. Thats why I admire progamers.

Don't be so negative bro

I'm not being negative, if he wants to do it all power to him.

This isnt about GSL its about the OP and others wanting to do a practice schedule like a Korean, and as I said the shits not too hard to do.

I used to do it on BW all the time, and ive done it on other games too(playing all day with breaks etc)

ah, I got what you meant here. Fair enough.
For me, the secret of Korea success in RTS(they are quite success in War3 and Age of Empires as well) is not only their training schedule, there is something else, but I don't know what the hell it is :D. Maybe a healthy population of players than play RTS so they got more talents. Korean ladder has about 500k people while the whole SEA ladder has only less than half of that. Korea has a population of about 40 millions, while SEA has like 400 millions people? O_O.
Terran
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 10:16:20
June 21 2011 10:15 GMT
#65
On June 21 2011 18:49 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 18:43 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 18:20 Caphe wrote:
On June 21 2011 17:46 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:44 Eywa- wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:16 dakalro wrote:
When you said "energy drinks" you already failed. You're doing this during the night and it's already wrong.
Do it during the day, with regular breaks (every 1-2h take 10 min off, stretch). Take time for a decent lunch. Have water and fruit for snacks. Use the night to sleep.

You have to realize this is not supposed to be some sort of prolonged gaming session but work, fortunately work with something you like.


The question is, can one practice like a Korean, therefore we have to adopt it into our lifestyle = Full time day job or school, I have a full time day job, working starting in 7 hours. Can I still train like a Korean? We'll see.


2-1 so far.

I'll post replays to evaluate progress.

3-2

W - Daemonarchy
W - Daemonarchy
L - Random guy(I'll get the name later
L - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
L - Dayfly

isnt it obvious no?
they dont have jobs they just play the game

yeah someone can practice like a korean the shits not difficult, i dont even know why this thread exists

sit and play the game for 8 hours a day with regular breaks and exercise like they do shits not fucking hard.

Its hard, believe me. If you have pressure to practice so you can take on people on tournament, imagine you've been practice your ass off for 2-3 months in preparation for..lets say GSL code A qualifier and you lost 1st row to some cheese or even worse, you just lost out right cos the other guy out played you so hard. That will be big hit.
Only the selected few with so much determination will have the will to keep going and going. I am sure as hell I can't even someone gives me 1 million dollars.

A normal daily job is much easier to cope with than playing games for 12 hours a day and try to win the tournament. Thats why I admire progamers.

Don't be so negative bro

I'm not being negative, if he wants to do it all power to him.

This isnt about GSL its about the OP and others wanting to do a practice schedule like a Korean, and as I said the shits not too hard to do.

I used to do it on BW all the time, and ive done it on other games too(playing all day with breaks etc)

ah, I got what you meant here. Fair enough.
For me, the secret of Korea success in RTS(they are quite success in War3 and Age of Empires as well) is not only their training schedule, there is something else, but I don't know what the hell it is :D. Maybe a healthy population of players than play RTS so they got more talents. Korean ladder has about 500k people while the whole SEA ladder has only less than half of that. Korea has a population of about 40 millions, while SEA has like 400 millions people? O_O.

The secret is, they practice builds and work on their mechanics, Anyone can do the same thing if they put in as much effort.

By this i mean they look up the builds get the timings together and then practice them over and over
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 21 2011 11:06 GMT
#66
On June 21 2011 19:15 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 18:49 Caphe wrote:
On June 21 2011 18:43 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 18:20 Caphe wrote:
On June 21 2011 17:46 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:44 Eywa- wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:16 dakalro wrote:
When you said "energy drinks" you already failed. You're doing this during the night and it's already wrong.
Do it during the day, with regular breaks (every 1-2h take 10 min off, stretch). Take time for a decent lunch. Have water and fruit for snacks. Use the night to sleep.

You have to realize this is not supposed to be some sort of prolonged gaming session but work, fortunately work with something you like.


The question is, can one practice like a Korean, therefore we have to adopt it into our lifestyle = Full time day job or school, I have a full time day job, working starting in 7 hours. Can I still train like a Korean? We'll see.


2-1 so far.

I'll post replays to evaluate progress.

3-2

W - Daemonarchy
W - Daemonarchy
L - Random guy(I'll get the name later
L - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
L - Dayfly

isnt it obvious no?
they dont have jobs they just play the game

yeah someone can practice like a korean the shits not difficult, i dont even know why this thread exists

sit and play the game for 8 hours a day with regular breaks and exercise like they do shits not fucking hard.

Its hard, believe me. If you have pressure to practice so you can take on people on tournament, imagine you've been practice your ass off for 2-3 months in preparation for..lets say GSL code A qualifier and you lost 1st row to some cheese or even worse, you just lost out right cos the other guy out played you so hard. That will be big hit.
Only the selected few with so much determination will have the will to keep going and going. I am sure as hell I can't even someone gives me 1 million dollars.

A normal daily job is much easier to cope with than playing games for 12 hours a day and try to win the tournament. Thats why I admire progamers.

Don't be so negative bro

I'm not being negative, if he wants to do it all power to him.

This isnt about GSL its about the OP and others wanting to do a practice schedule like a Korean, and as I said the shits not too hard to do.

I used to do it on BW all the time, and ive done it on other games too(playing all day with breaks etc)

ah, I got what you meant here. Fair enough.
For me, the secret of Korea success in RTS(they are quite success in War3 and Age of Empires as well) is not only their training schedule, there is something else, but I don't know what the hell it is :D. Maybe a healthy population of players than play RTS so they got more talents. Korean ladder has about 500k people while the whole SEA ladder has only less than half of that. Korea has a population of about 40 millions, while SEA has like 400 millions people? O_O.

The secret is, they practice builds and work on their mechanics, Anyone can do the same thing if they put in as much effort.

By this i mean they look up the builds get the timings together and then practice them over and over


But you wouldn't be able to do this with a full time job. Thats what the thread is about. Can a regular person from NA practice as much as a korean. Why is this so hard for you to understand? 8-10 hours/day job + 8 hours trainning is already 16-18 hours out of your day. Easy you say? how about you try it.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 21 2011 11:10 GMT
#67
On June 21 2011 20:06 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 19:15 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 18:49 Caphe wrote:
On June 21 2011 18:43 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 18:20 Caphe wrote:
On June 21 2011 17:46 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:44 Eywa- wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:16 dakalro wrote:
When you said "energy drinks" you already failed. You're doing this during the night and it's already wrong.
Do it during the day, with regular breaks (every 1-2h take 10 min off, stretch). Take time for a decent lunch. Have water and fruit for snacks. Use the night to sleep.

You have to realize this is not supposed to be some sort of prolonged gaming session but work, fortunately work with something you like.


The question is, can one practice like a Korean, therefore we have to adopt it into our lifestyle = Full time day job or school, I have a full time day job, working starting in 7 hours. Can I still train like a Korean? We'll see.


2-1 so far.

I'll post replays to evaluate progress.

3-2

W - Daemonarchy
W - Daemonarchy
L - Random guy(I'll get the name later
L - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
L - Dayfly

isnt it obvious no?
they dont have jobs they just play the game

yeah someone can practice like a korean the shits not difficult, i dont even know why this thread exists

sit and play the game for 8 hours a day with regular breaks and exercise like they do shits not fucking hard.

Its hard, believe me. If you have pressure to practice so you can take on people on tournament, imagine you've been practice your ass off for 2-3 months in preparation for..lets say GSL code A qualifier and you lost 1st row to some cheese or even worse, you just lost out right cos the other guy out played you so hard. That will be big hit.
Only the selected few with so much determination will have the will to keep going and going. I am sure as hell I can't even someone gives me 1 million dollars.

A normal daily job is much easier to cope with than playing games for 12 hours a day and try to win the tournament. Thats why I admire progamers.

Don't be so negative bro

I'm not being negative, if he wants to do it all power to him.

This isnt about GSL its about the OP and others wanting to do a practice schedule like a Korean, and as I said the shits not too hard to do.

I used to do it on BW all the time, and ive done it on other games too(playing all day with breaks etc)

ah, I got what you meant here. Fair enough.
For me, the secret of Korea success in RTS(they are quite success in War3 and Age of Empires as well) is not only their training schedule, there is something else, but I don't know what the hell it is :D. Maybe a healthy population of players than play RTS so they got more talents. Korean ladder has about 500k people while the whole SEA ladder has only less than half of that. Korea has a population of about 40 millions, while SEA has like 400 millions people? O_O.

The secret is, they practice builds and work on their mechanics, Anyone can do the same thing if they put in as much effort.

By this i mean they look up the builds get the timings together and then practice them over and over


But you wouldn't be able to do this with a full time job. Thats what the thread is about. Can a regular person from NA practice as much as a korean. Why is this so hard for you to understand? 8-10 hours/day job + 8 hours trainning is already 16-18 hours out of your day. Easy you say? how about you try it.


Can you stop talking? did you read my post "No you cant do it"

Or did you just decide to spurt out some stupid bullshit without reading it first?

I'll even quote it since you seem to have a hard time reading
On June 21 2011 17:46 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 16:44 Eywa- wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:16 dakalro wrote:
When you said "energy drinks" you already failed. You're doing this during the night and it's already wrong.
Do it during the day, with regular breaks (every 1-2h take 10 min off, stretch). Take time for a decent lunch. Have water and fruit for snacks. Use the night to sleep.

You have to realize this is not supposed to be some sort of prolonged gaming session but work, fortunately work with something you like.


The question is, can one practice like a Korean, therefore we have to adopt it into our lifestyle = Full time day job or school, I have a full time day job, working starting in 7 hours. Can I still train like a Korean? We'll see.


2-1 so far.

I'll post replays to evaluate progress.

3-2

W - Daemonarchy
W - Daemonarchy
L - Random guy(I'll get the name later
L - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
L - Dayfly

isnt it obvious no?
they dont have jobs they just play the game


yeah someone can practice like a korean the shits not difficult, i dont even know why this thread exists

sit and play the game for 8 hours a day with regular breaks and exercise like they do shits not fucking hard.

Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 21 2011 11:12 GMT
#68
On June 21 2011 20:10 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 20:06 Eywa- wrote:
On June 21 2011 19:15 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 18:49 Caphe wrote:
On June 21 2011 18:43 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 18:20 Caphe wrote:
On June 21 2011 17:46 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:44 Eywa- wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:16 dakalro wrote:
When you said "energy drinks" you already failed. You're doing this during the night and it's already wrong.
Do it during the day, with regular breaks (every 1-2h take 10 min off, stretch). Take time for a decent lunch. Have water and fruit for snacks. Use the night to sleep.

You have to realize this is not supposed to be some sort of prolonged gaming session but work, fortunately work with something you like.


The question is, can one practice like a Korean, therefore we have to adopt it into our lifestyle = Full time day job or school, I have a full time day job, working starting in 7 hours. Can I still train like a Korean? We'll see.


2-1 so far.

I'll post replays to evaluate progress.

3-2

W - Daemonarchy
W - Daemonarchy
L - Random guy(I'll get the name later
L - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
L - Dayfly

isnt it obvious no?
they dont have jobs they just play the game

yeah someone can practice like a korean the shits not difficult, i dont even know why this thread exists

sit and play the game for 8 hours a day with regular breaks and exercise like they do shits not fucking hard.

Its hard, believe me. If you have pressure to practice so you can take on people on tournament, imagine you've been practice your ass off for 2-3 months in preparation for..lets say GSL code A qualifier and you lost 1st row to some cheese or even worse, you just lost out right cos the other guy out played you so hard. That will be big hit.
Only the selected few with so much determination will have the will to keep going and going. I am sure as hell I can't even someone gives me 1 million dollars.

A normal daily job is much easier to cope with than playing games for 12 hours a day and try to win the tournament. Thats why I admire progamers.

Don't be so negative bro

I'm not being negative, if he wants to do it all power to him.

This isnt about GSL its about the OP and others wanting to do a practice schedule like a Korean, and as I said the shits not too hard to do.

I used to do it on BW all the time, and ive done it on other games too(playing all day with breaks etc)

ah, I got what you meant here. Fair enough.
For me, the secret of Korea success in RTS(they are quite success in War3 and Age of Empires as well) is not only their training schedule, there is something else, but I don't know what the hell it is :D. Maybe a healthy population of players than play RTS so they got more talents. Korean ladder has about 500k people while the whole SEA ladder has only less than half of that. Korea has a population of about 40 millions, while SEA has like 400 millions people? O_O.

The secret is, they practice builds and work on their mechanics, Anyone can do the same thing if they put in as much effort.

By this i mean they look up the builds get the timings together and then practice them over and over


But you wouldn't be able to do this with a full time job. Thats what the thread is about. Can a regular person from NA practice as much as a korean. Why is this so hard for you to understand? 8-10 hours/day job + 8 hours trainning is already 16-18 hours out of your day. Easy you say? how about you try it.


Can you stop talking? did you read my post "No you cant do it"

Or did you just decide to spurt out some stupid bullshit without reading it first?

I'll even quote it since you seem to have a hard time reading
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 17:46 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:44 Eywa- wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:16 dakalro wrote:
When you said "energy drinks" you already failed. You're doing this during the night and it's already wrong.
Do it during the day, with regular breaks (every 1-2h take 10 min off, stretch). Take time for a decent lunch. Have water and fruit for snacks. Use the night to sleep.

You have to realize this is not supposed to be some sort of prolonged gaming session but work, fortunately work with something you like.


The question is, can one practice like a Korean, therefore we have to adopt it into our lifestyle = Full time day job or school, I have a full time day job, working starting in 7 hours. Can I still train like a Korean? We'll see.


2-1 so far.

I'll post replays to evaluate progress.

3-2

W - Daemonarchy
W - Daemonarchy
L - Random guy(I'll get the name later
L - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
L - Dayfly

isnt it obvious no?
they dont have jobs they just play the game


yeah someone can practice like a korean the shits not difficult, i dont even know why this thread exists

sit and play the game for 8 hours a day with regular breaks and exercise like they do shits not fucking hard.



... Exactly, this thread is about if you can get same trainning in with a job. What don't you understand?
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 21 2011 11:15 GMT
#69
On June 21 2011 20:12 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 20:10 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 20:06 Eywa- wrote:
On June 21 2011 19:15 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 18:49 Caphe wrote:
On June 21 2011 18:43 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 18:20 Caphe wrote:
On June 21 2011 17:46 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:44 Eywa- wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:16 dakalro wrote:
When you said "energy drinks" you already failed. You're doing this during the night and it's already wrong.
Do it during the day, with regular breaks (every 1-2h take 10 min off, stretch). Take time for a decent lunch. Have water and fruit for snacks. Use the night to sleep.

You have to realize this is not supposed to be some sort of prolonged gaming session but work, fortunately work with something you like.


The question is, can one practice like a Korean, therefore we have to adopt it into our lifestyle = Full time day job or school, I have a full time day job, working starting in 7 hours. Can I still train like a Korean? We'll see.


2-1 so far.

I'll post replays to evaluate progress.

3-2

W - Daemonarchy
W - Daemonarchy
L - Random guy(I'll get the name later
L - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
L - Dayfly

isnt it obvious no?
they dont have jobs they just play the game

yeah someone can practice like a korean the shits not difficult, i dont even know why this thread exists

sit and play the game for 8 hours a day with regular breaks and exercise like they do shits not fucking hard.

Its hard, believe me. If you have pressure to practice so you can take on people on tournament, imagine you've been practice your ass off for 2-3 months in preparation for..lets say GSL code A qualifier and you lost 1st row to some cheese or even worse, you just lost out right cos the other guy out played you so hard. That will be big hit.
Only the selected few with so much determination will have the will to keep going and going. I am sure as hell I can't even someone gives me 1 million dollars.

A normal daily job is much easier to cope with than playing games for 12 hours a day and try to win the tournament. Thats why I admire progamers.

Don't be so negative bro

I'm not being negative, if he wants to do it all power to him.

This isnt about GSL its about the OP and others wanting to do a practice schedule like a Korean, and as I said the shits not too hard to do.

I used to do it on BW all the time, and ive done it on other games too(playing all day with breaks etc)

ah, I got what you meant here. Fair enough.
For me, the secret of Korea success in RTS(they are quite success in War3 and Age of Empires as well) is not only their training schedule, there is something else, but I don't know what the hell it is :D. Maybe a healthy population of players than play RTS so they got more talents. Korean ladder has about 500k people while the whole SEA ladder has only less than half of that. Korea has a population of about 40 millions, while SEA has like 400 millions people? O_O.

The secret is, they practice builds and work on their mechanics, Anyone can do the same thing if they put in as much effort.

By this i mean they look up the builds get the timings together and then practice them over and over


But you wouldn't be able to do this with a full time job. Thats what the thread is about. Can a regular person from NA practice as much as a korean. Why is this so hard for you to understand? 8-10 hours/day job + 8 hours trainning is already 16-18 hours out of your day. Easy you say? how about you try it.


Can you stop talking? did you read my post "No you cant do it"

Or did you just decide to spurt out some stupid bullshit without reading it first?

I'll even quote it since you seem to have a hard time reading
On June 21 2011 17:46 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:44 Eywa- wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:16 dakalro wrote:
When you said "energy drinks" you already failed. You're doing this during the night and it's already wrong.
Do it during the day, with regular breaks (every 1-2h take 10 min off, stretch). Take time for a decent lunch. Have water and fruit for snacks. Use the night to sleep.

You have to realize this is not supposed to be some sort of prolonged gaming session but work, fortunately work with something you like.


The question is, can one practice like a Korean, therefore we have to adopt it into our lifestyle = Full time day job or school, I have a full time day job, working starting in 7 hours. Can I still train like a Korean? We'll see.


2-1 so far.

I'll post replays to evaluate progress.

3-2

W - Daemonarchy
W - Daemonarchy
L - Random guy(I'll get the name later
L - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
L - Dayfly

isnt it obvious no?
they dont have jobs they just play the game


yeah someone can practice like a korean the shits not difficult, i dont even know why this thread exists

sit and play the game for 8 hours a day with regular breaks and exercise like they do shits not fucking hard.



... Exactly, this thread is about if you can get same trainning in with a job. What don't you understand?

Do i need to quote it again for you?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Garbonix
Profile Joined January 2009
5 Posts
June 21 2011 11:18 GMT
#70
On June 21 2011 20:12 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 20:10 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 20:06 Eywa- wrote:
On June 21 2011 19:15 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 18:49 Caphe wrote:
On June 21 2011 18:43 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 18:20 Caphe wrote:
On June 21 2011 17:46 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:44 Eywa- wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:16 dakalro wrote:
When you said "energy drinks" you already failed. You're doing this during the night and it's already wrong.
Do it during the day, with regular breaks (every 1-2h take 10 min off, stretch). Take time for a decent lunch. Have water and fruit for snacks. Use the night to sleep.

You have to realize this is not supposed to be some sort of prolonged gaming session but work, fortunately work with something you like.


The question is, can one practice like a Korean, therefore we have to adopt it into our lifestyle = Full time day job or school, I have a full time day job, working starting in 7 hours. Can I still train like a Korean? We'll see.


2-1 so far.

I'll post replays to evaluate progress.

3-2

W - Daemonarchy
W - Daemonarchy
L - Random guy(I'll get the name later
L - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
L - Dayfly

isnt it obvious no?
they dont have jobs they just play the game

yeah someone can practice like a korean the shits not difficult, i dont even know why this thread exists

sit and play the game for 8 hours a day with regular breaks and exercise like they do shits not fucking hard.

Its hard, believe me. If you have pressure to practice so you can take on people on tournament, imagine you've been practice your ass off for 2-3 months in preparation for..lets say GSL code A qualifier and you lost 1st row to some cheese or even worse, you just lost out right cos the other guy out played you so hard. That will be big hit.
Only the selected few with so much determination will have the will to keep going and going. I am sure as hell I can't even someone gives me 1 million dollars.

A normal daily job is much easier to cope with than playing games for 12 hours a day and try to win the tournament. Thats why I admire progamers.

Don't be so negative bro

I'm not being negative, if he wants to do it all power to him.

This isnt about GSL its about the OP and others wanting to do a practice schedule like a Korean, and as I said the shits not too hard to do.

I used to do it on BW all the time, and ive done it on other games too(playing all day with breaks etc)

ah, I got what you meant here. Fair enough.
For me, the secret of Korea success in RTS(they are quite success in War3 and Age of Empires as well) is not only their training schedule, there is something else, but I don't know what the hell it is :D. Maybe a healthy population of players than play RTS so they got more talents. Korean ladder has about 500k people while the whole SEA ladder has only less than half of that. Korea has a population of about 40 millions, while SEA has like 400 millions people? O_O.

The secret is, they practice builds and work on their mechanics, Anyone can do the same thing if they put in as much effort.

By this i mean they look up the builds get the timings together and then practice them over and over


But you wouldn't be able to do this with a full time job. Thats what the thread is about. Can a regular person from NA practice as much as a korean. Why is this so hard for you to understand? 8-10 hours/day job + 8 hours trainning is already 16-18 hours out of your day. Easy you say? how about you try it.


Can you stop talking? did you read my post "No you cant do it"

Or did you just decide to spurt out some stupid bullshit without reading it first?

I'll even quote it since you seem to have a hard time reading
On June 21 2011 17:46 arb wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:44 Eywa- wrote:
On June 21 2011 16:16 dakalro wrote:
When you said "energy drinks" you already failed. You're doing this during the night and it's already wrong.
Do it during the day, with regular breaks (every 1-2h take 10 min off, stretch). Take time for a decent lunch. Have water and fruit for snacks. Use the night to sleep.

You have to realize this is not supposed to be some sort of prolonged gaming session but work, fortunately work with something you like.


The question is, can one practice like a Korean, therefore we have to adopt it into our lifestyle = Full time day job or school, I have a full time day job, working starting in 7 hours. Can I still train like a Korean? We'll see.


2-1 so far.

I'll post replays to evaluate progress.

3-2

W - Daemonarchy
W - Daemonarchy
L - Random guy(I'll get the name later
L - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
W - Dayfly
L - Dayfly

isnt it obvious no?
they dont have jobs they just play the game


yeah someone can practice like a korean the shits not difficult, i dont even know why this thread exists

sit and play the game for 8 hours a day with regular breaks and exercise like they do shits not fucking hard.



... Exactly, this thread is about if you can get same trainning in with a job. What don't you understand?


Let me lay down simple math for you. You take a single 8 work day and add in another 8 hours of starcraft training. Now for the math. 8+8=16 16 hours out of 24 in a day. Now again with the math. 24-16=8 Now that is 8 hours left in the day to sleep, eat, and use the bathroom. So the answer is a big N to the O that is NO you can't understand now?
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 11:31:33
June 21 2011 11:26 GMT
#71
There was a post from Liquid'Tyler a couple of years ago, he made a very good post about training, but i can find it . Remember to not sacrifice sleep and body/heath (try to get like 1-2 hours of exercises for body, running, gym etc.) Also try to not go over 10 hours of playing. Like 8 hours for playing and then 2 hours for watching replays and VODs in the evening to learn form your mistakes and learn from the pros. Its really efficient if you follow this kind of rules.

Oh, now i see you wanted to play for 8 hours for one day. Forget what i said lol
guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
June 25 2011 03:36 GMT
#72
On June 21 2011 20:26 thOr6136 wrote:
There was a post from Liquid'Tyler a couple of years ago, he made a very good post about training, but i can find it


Was his exact tl name liquid'nony before liquid'tyler? I'm having trouble finding it too. Whenever I search for practice and put liquid'nony or liquid'tyler in the author box it ignores the author and just searches all posts/threads for 'practice'.
“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” - Hemingway
huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
June 25 2011 03:42 GMT
#73
On June 25 2011 12:36 guitarizt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 20:26 thOr6136 wrote:
There was a post from Liquid'Tyler a couple of years ago, he made a very good post about training, but i can find it


Was his exact tl name liquid'nony before liquid'tyler? I'm having trouble finding it too. Whenever I search for practice and put liquid'nony or liquid'tyler in the author box it ignores the author and just searches all posts/threads for 'practice'.


It's not an apostrophe in his name, it's "`", whatever that is called ;d. Liquid`Tyler will find all his posts, even ones he made before he changed his name, I think
skating
guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
June 25 2011 04:49 GMT
#74
On June 25 2011 12:42 huameng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 12:36 guitarizt wrote:
On June 21 2011 20:26 thOr6136 wrote:
There was a post from Liquid'Tyler a couple of years ago, he made a very good post about training, but i can find it


Was his exact tl name liquid'nony before liquid'tyler? I'm having trouble finding it too. Whenever I search for practice and put liquid'nony or liquid'tyler in the author box it ignores the author and just searches all posts/threads for 'practice'.


It's not an apostrophe in his name, it's "`", whatever that is called ;d. Liquid`Tyler will find all his posts, even ones he made before he changed his name, I think


Thanks works now! You're right it does find all his posts. There's some good stuff in there along with some common training schedules of the koreans. Basically they play 10+ hrs a day with a one hour break for dinner.
“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” - Hemingway
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