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billy5000
United States865 Posts
Could this action lead to a serious consequence? I know it's unethical and whatnot (in the sense that I'm not starting for scratch unlike my classmates), but it is in fact my writing and I may edit a few things here and there. EDIT: I had a different prof when I wrote the essay.  | ||
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Sleight
2471 Posts
That said, do it, if it's good. Ethics should be reserved for things that matter. If it was someone else's old paper, I'd might bat at an eye. Your work is your work is your work. Cheers. | ||
motbob
United States12546 Posts
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mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
On February 28 2011 11:11 motbob wrote: Mmm. Just spend a lot of time rewriting and improving it. Make it unrecognizable from its previous state. Then, if you get caught/in trouble, you can point out that you spent a lot of time on it. I don't think that pointing out that you "spent a lot of time on it" will fly. If you spend a lot of time on it (ie. re-write it, using the same ideas) then you should be ok, I'm not really sure where they draw the line. It would be best to contact your student affairs office or the prof first. edit: But yeah, that is illegal. Depending on the school, consequences could range from an F in the course to expulsion/suspension. | ||
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
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Pengu1n
United States552 Posts
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billy5000
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MuffinFTW
United States235 Posts
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billy5000
United States865 Posts
On February 28 2011 11:36 MuffinFTW wrote: I think you can recycle it to be honest, I recycled one of my old essays from previous years before. It's not plagiarism if it's your own paper and writing. :3 There's a possibility that you're right, but because of the ambiguity in this topic, I'd rather not take my chances--unfortunately. | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
A student is taking a course this semester that is related to a previous course he took. His final paper for the previous course was on a topic that is central to the present one. Due to the overlap, he decides to hand in the paper as one of his assignments for the current course. Is this permitted? -NO The justification: One of the objectives of your studies is to build on your education by applying concepts and knowledge acquired in previous courses to current ones. But the work produced for each course must be original, and the resubmission of an old paper does not build on previous knowledge; it recycles it. No student shall: Submit in any course or program of study, without both the knowledge and approval of the person to whom it is submitted, all or a substantial portion of any academic writing, essay, thesis, research report, project or assignment for which credit has previously been obtained or which has been or is being submitted in another course or program of study in the University or elsewhere | ||
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ToFu.
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jpditri
United States86 Posts
Instead, I'd recommend writing a new paper with an expanded thesis with citations to your older paper. You get the all the benefits of writing an essay on a topic you are familiar with, and you get to be a self-referential baller. | ||
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munchmunch
Canada789 Posts
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OpAndroid
United States84 Posts
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
New Intro New Conclusion Reiterated arguments Jumble Sources. You're done. I've done the same essay/topic 3 times in a row in about 3 different classes (so that's 9 times), teachers love it. Then again, political science, sociological and psychological professors just eat up anything about the corporation and society. Gotta love how liberal and skeptic they are :3 | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
On February 28 2011 14:03 Torte de Lini wrote: Take it and reiterate it differently and switch up the order. New Intro New Conclusion Reiterated arguments Jumble Sources. You're done. I've done the same essay/topic 3 times in a row in about 3 different classes (so that's 9 times), teachers love it. Then again, political science, sociological and psychological professors just eat up anything about the corporation and society. Gotta love how liberal and skeptic they are :3 Well, you could probably hand in a piece of toilet paper and get an A at Concordia. Trololololol :p + Show Spoiler + k, i'm done we <3 you guys | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On February 28 2011 14:14 emperorchampion wrote: Well, you could probably hand in a piece of toilet paper and get an A at Concordia. Trololololol :p + Show Spoiler + k, i'm done we <3 you guys Oh bro, cheap shot, cheap shot. And this was at Vanier College to Concordia. | ||
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DeckOneBell
United States526 Posts
Up to you whether or not to do it, though. | ||
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lutarez
United States65 Posts
On February 28 2011 11:49 ToFu. wrote: i know it sounds stupid, but one of my professors said that doing what you just described constitutes plagiarism because you're presenting something derived from something else as an original production. Everything, particularly in academia, is derived from something else. What is considered original work? -_- To the OP: Don't recycle it. Is it an opinion piece? If so, you could perhaps re-write arguing the opposite side. | ||
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Deja Thoris
South Africa646 Posts
On February 28 2011 14:19 DeckOneBell wrote: It's already been stated, but for any university, this would be considered plagiarism for the class. Up to you whether or not to do it, though. Plagiarism is defined in dictionaries as "the wrongful appropriation, close imitation, or purloining and publication, of another author's language, thoughts, ideas, or expressions, and the representation of them as one's own original work." You can't plagarise yourself. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32132 Posts
On February 28 2011 23:11 Deja Thoris wrote: Plagiarism is defined in dictionaries as "the wrongful appropriation, close imitation, or purloining and publication, of another author's language, thoughts, ideas, or expressions, and the representation of them as one's own original work." You can't plagarise yourself. it's a shitty use of the word, but you'll get in trouble for it at virtually any school. I mean it does make sense... you can debate if it's ethical, but it is without question lazy as shit and that's enough for a school to look down on it. You can even get in trouble if it's just use of the same concepts on a subject you've written about before. My one professor made me jump through all sorts of hoops after realizing one of my papers was essentially a recycle of something I had done previously for another class (he asked how I knew the subject matter, I said I had done something on it before, he says bring in the old work or you get a zero). I didn't get in trouble, because I was smart enough to edit my recycled paper thoroughly and make sure sentence structure and all that shit was changed. But I still had to go through all sorts of extra bullshit just cause I said I had used an old paper as inspiration for something. If he were to find word for word sentence usage, I probably would have brought before the school board formally or whatever. On February 28 2011 12:22 mizU wrote: I don't know why hardly anyone said this, but really, just ask your prof. No definitely don't, because of what this guy says. You'll look dumb for asking just do what this guy says, it aint that hard. And just don't do what I did and acknowledge that you did the following On February 28 2011 11:49 jpditri wrote: I wouldn't do it-- even if it isn't blatantly against the rules. On the off chance you were found out, your prof would probably see it in a negative light regardless. You'd basically be sending the message that you don't take their class and their assignments seriously. Instead, I'd recommend writing a new paper with an expanded thesis with citations to your older paper. You get the all the benefits of writing an essay on a topic you are familiar with, and you get to be a self-referential baller. | ||
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
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