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RawrAnOcean
Profile Joined February 2006
United States359 Posts
February 07 2011 16:35 GMT
#21
I hate it when people pause. Especially if it's a phone call. That's what voice mail is for or caller ID so you can call them back. When someone knocks on my door I just leave and come back hoping I'm not too far behind.

If someone gives a good reason for pausing though I'll wait. But if someone goes brb need to help parents with groceries, I'm not going to sit around. Usually they'll unpause out of no where also and expect me to be ready conveniently for them.
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
February 07 2011 16:36 GMT
#22
As long as its under a minute then i will wait. I don't know why people get pissed when they pause, and when they're back they say "ready?" and i just unpause. Cause that means they're ready...
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SYNC_qx
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany197 Posts
February 07 2011 16:38 GMT
#23
On February 08 2011 01:08 FireBlast! wrote:
This happened yesterday where just after the worker split I paused to get the door, and when I come back the game's resumed and I find ive banked up 200 minerals.

So pissed off and panicked I attempt to cannon his main (PvP steppes) which fails. He types "you lose" to which I am even more pissed off.

So I cannon my ramp shouting profanities at him while taking a secret expansion at his third, he goes 3 gate robo and camps outside my base with a big gateway/immortal army and says "gg". i force field and cannon turtle good and proper and start squeezing out colossi off 2 robotics. Eventually I rush out with my 8 colossi and crush his army to which he replies "you have gold?" to which I reply "FUCK YOU"

it felt good


lol soo good do you have the replay? :D
BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
February 07 2011 16:40 GMT
#24
On February 08 2011 01:18 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2011 00:55 LastWish wrote:
Well I usually wait 30s-1minute, but only if the opponent asks politely and says the reason.
Otherwise I'm not obliged to accept anyone's "wait for me I need to poo or sth" requests.


But its a little more mannered if you do. If some1 pauses they have a reason for pausing. I don't understand how some1 could use the feature as a way of grieving...aren't they just ruining their own experience too? The only time I unpause instantly is when I'm clearly about to win, in which case yes they're doing it to be annoying. If its like the beginning of a game its pretty bm to unpause for some1. Just screams "desperate for ladder wins" to me, pretty pathetic.


actually I've had someone use pause specifically to mess up my micro.

I was zerg vs a toss and he moved into position with a large stalker/void/sentry/colossus army.

As I was setting my units and getting a flank ready, he a-moves and immediately pauses it. I say '?' and wait for him to unpause, but he doesn't respond. After a few seconds I go to unpause, but while the menu is up, he unpauses! I quickly try to escape the menu and micro my units but I had already lost a lot of corruptor. Then, he does it again! I lost the battle, and then the game.

This was pre-patch, pausing/unpausing works differently now (no menu, just a button press).
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redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
February 07 2011 16:42 GMT
#25
as long as an explanation is given and they dont just leave it for 10 minutes then im good
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
February 07 2011 16:45 GMT
#26
Yeah my ideal scenario would be something like
A: sec please. Washroom
A pauses the game
B: ok
(1 min later)
A: sorry back. Ready?
B: gogo
A resumes the game.
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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
February 07 2011 16:45 GMT
#27
On February 08 2011 01:08 FireBlast! wrote:
This happened yesterday where just after the worker split I paused to get the door, and when I come back the game's resumed and I find ive banked up 200 minerals.

So pissed off and panicked I attempt to cannon his main (PvP steppes) which fails. He types "you lose" to which I am even more pissed off.

So I cannon my ramp shouting profanities at him while taking a secret expansion at his third, he goes 3 gate robo and camps outside my base with a big gateway/immortal army and says "gg". i force field and cannon turtle good and proper and start squeezing out colossi off 2 robotics. Eventually I rush out with my 8 colossi and crush his army to which he replies "you have gold?" to which I reply "FUCK YOU"

it felt good


Can I have the replay? One of the most hilarious stories i've heard
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
February 07 2011 16:48 GMT
#28
On topic, I think you should leave the game and not pause for 1-2 minutes if the game started relatively recently.

If you want to pause in the middle of a game I will agree to waiting a minute or two at most before I will either leave the game or unpause depending on how I feel about it.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
February 07 2011 16:49 GMT
#29
you can't call anyone immature for unpausing. Actually you are the one ruining their game by pausing.

I let people pause and pause myself rarely. I totally understand that they may lose their warmed up fingerspeed or they might forget their game plans during pause. so dont be a bm and call unpausers bm.
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
February 07 2011 16:54 GMT
#30
On February 08 2011 01:21 Kimaker wrote:
I've always been of the opinion that there should be a timer on how long before the OTHER player, (non-pausing one) can resume the game. Just 45 secs or something.


I've seen this idea suggested several times, and it really boggles me. Have you never played against those people who pause the game then leave so that the score screen doesn't come up for you (patched now I believe) or the terrans who lift off and float to a corner just to waste your time? Imagine that but with all races. I think you get 3 pauses, so with that rule, any sore loser can waste 2:15 minutes of your time every game. Do you really want to allow that?

Regarding the pause/unpause issue, I agree with Kiante and Excalibur. I'll be manner and give you a chance to tell me why it's paused. However, I'm completely fine with people who unpause immediately since they have no obligation to wait for you.
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
February 07 2011 16:59 GMT
#31
On February 08 2011 01:12 Excalibur_Z wrote:
In my experience, people use the Pause button for griefing a lot more frequently than they use it legitimately. If you pause the game, I immediately respond with "?", and you had better type in the reason for the pause within 5 seconds or I'm unpausing it. Even if it's just a bridge like "sec" to precede the reason, just type in something so I know you're not just being a jerk. If it's a legitimate reason I'll wait about a minute or so.


That's how i do it, if someone pauses and doesn't state a reason why he pauses then i'm gonna unpause that shit right away.
Tons of people abuse the Pause-button, it have happened that people pause in critical moments like when i'm harassing their mineral line or in battles to buy themselves time to react.
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-07 17:10:45
February 07 2011 17:09 GMT
#32
I think for ladder games it's entirely fair for the other player to unpause immediately without any consequences. Sure, it's a jerk thing to do, and I certainly wouldn't look favorably on someone who does this. But it's within their rights, and many people forget that it's the pauser asking for a favor. The pausing player simply has to make a determination, whether it's worth it to play the game or do the other task. If the phone call is important, quit the game and answer it. If you need to answer the door, quit the game, answer the door, and restart another. If the points and win matter that much to you just ignore the door or the phone. By pausing you are forcing someone else to wait at your convenience, this is a privilege not a right.
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QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-07 17:11:27
February 07 2011 17:10 GMT
#33
Never understood why the Pause feature allowed your opponent to Unpause most bullshit system ever. Should have just added a timer like 3mins before the other player can Unpause.
"Suum Cuique" - Cicero
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
February 07 2011 17:14 GMT
#34
On February 08 2011 02:10 Nyxs wrote:
Never understood why the Pause feature allowed your opponent to Unpause most bullshit system ever. Should have just added a timer like 3mins before the other player can Unpause.

So your opponent can force you to wait 9 minutes arbitrarily? That's ridiculous. Pausing when you don't know the other player shouldn't be a default right. Your opponent should have to agree, and I think it's fine they can unpause.

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QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-07 17:23:49
February 07 2011 17:23 GMT
#35
Change the number and it's less "ridiculous". I find it pretty retarded you can't even sum up the respect to wait 3 minutes while your opponent pauzes. Lost all respect for you Hot_Bid.
"Suum Cuique" - Cicero
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
February 07 2011 17:24 GMT
#36
All games would be 3 minutes longer then...
Moktira is da bomb
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-07 17:31:13
February 07 2011 17:28 GMT
#37
On February 08 2011 02:23 Nyxs wrote:
Change the number and it's less "ridiculous". I find it pretty retarded you can't even sum up the respect to wait 3 minutes while your opponent pauzes. Lost all respect for you Hot_Bid.

lol okay

If you read what I said, I didn't say that I personally wouldn't do it. Of course I would wait. I said I understand when someone would not want to wait even 30 seconds for me to run my errand. I even said it would be a jerk thing to do.

If someone who understands a viewpoint that they don't agree with makes you lose respect for someone, you must have no respect for just about any intelligent person. Because most people who are open minded can personally disagree with something but still understand it.

By pausing you are asking for a favor. You are saying "my time is more important than yours at this moment" and while that might be true, they are still within their rights to refuse the favor. If what you have to do for 3 minutes is so important, quit the game. I don't see why someone should be forced to wait for your errand.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
101TFP
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
420 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-07 17:33:39
February 07 2011 17:30 GMT
#38
On February 08 2011 02:10 Nyxs wrote:
Never understood why the Pause feature allowed your opponent to Unpause most bullshit system ever. Should have just added a timer like 3mins before the other player can Unpause.



Haha. Yeah, that would be a perfect solution for the "problem".

Don't like your opponent for some reason? Feel like trolling while laddering? Butthurt because you lost a game?
No problem! The built-in "annoy-your-opponent-to-no-end" feature enables you to force to him wait for 9 minutes until the game can be continued.

The Pause feature is absolutely fine as it is, as Hot_Bid explained quite nicely.

And if you absolutely have to go afk during a game where you believe that your opponent will unpause and don't want to quit for some reason, just don't pause.
Go afk without saying anything and return as quickly as possible, so that your opponent doesn't know that you're gone. If you tell him, he will surely attack straight away...

On February 08 2011 02:23 Nyxs wrote:
Change the number and it's less "ridiculous". I find it pretty retarded you can't even sum up the respect to wait 3 minutes while your opponent pauzes. Lost all respect for you Hot_Bid.


I find it pretty retarded you can't even sum up the respect to not make your opponent wait 3 minutes, just because you can't organize your time well enough to play a game without pausing.
People get what they get, this has nothing to do with what they deserve.
Sworn
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada920 Posts
February 07 2011 17:31 GMT
#39
On February 08 2011 01:12 Excalibur_Z wrote:
In my experience, people use the Pause button for griefing a lot more frequently than they use it legitimately. If you pause the game, I immediately respond with "?", and you had better type in the reason for the pause within 5 seconds or I'm unpausing it. Even if it's just a bridge like "sec" to precede the reason, just type in something so I know you're not just being a jerk. If it's a legitimate reason I'll wait about a minute or so.


Pretty much my feelings here tell me a reason i'll give you 1-3 minutues as long as its not during some stupid time like an engagement or during harass (lol). Even if they don't let you just ignore the door its not as important as SC2 anyways.
"Duty is heavy as a mountain, death is light as a feather." CJ Entus Fighting! <3 Effort
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-07 17:34:56
February 07 2011 17:34 GMT
#40
I think it is good as it is now. People would abuse some kind of timer so much. Anyways, I think everybody should be able to wait, if another person has to go toilet/open door/answer phone (if important call then leave game). Also I would wait ~minute, if opponent didn't said anything about pause. Sometimes opponent's keyboard battery might have just ended so they can't type anything =/
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