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OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
December 14 2010 05:34 GMT
#341
If someone could provide me of a karaoke version of Stan I would be happy to do an cover of it with the 'Dear Idra' lyrics
On the 6th day JF made Reavers and on the 7th day JF put his opponent to rest
Cha1R
Profile Joined November 2010
United States221 Posts
December 14 2010 05:38 GMT
#342
On December 14 2010 14:12 MelGibson1337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 13:51 kazie wrote:
On December 14 2010 13:40 MelGibson1337 wrote:
On December 14 2010 13:35 MelGibson1337 wrote:
It's a big deal for Idra because winning at a video game is his life

User was warned for this post


Why am i getting into trouble for writting something that is true and it answers the first guys question?


it's plain to see that you meant that as an insult without anything constructive to back it up. against a TL veteran that is a nono


Have you even read what this thread is about? Its exactly about what you just suggested i was doing except by someone who does it 100 times worse and for 100 times less reason.

ROFL YOUR NAME IS SO BALLER.
MelGibson1337
Profile Joined October 2010
Mauritius8 Posts
December 14 2010 05:41 GMT
#343
On December 14 2010 14:38 Cha1R wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 14:12 MelGibson1337 wrote:
On December 14 2010 13:51 kazie wrote:
On December 14 2010 13:40 MelGibson1337 wrote:
On December 14 2010 13:35 MelGibson1337 wrote:
It's a big deal for Idra because winning at a video game is his life

User was warned for this post


Why am i getting into trouble for writting something that is true and it answers the first guys question?


it's plain to see that you meant that as an insult without anything constructive to back it up. against a TL veteran that is a nono


Have you even read what this thread is about? Its exactly about what you just suggested i was doing except by someone who does it 100 times worse and for 100 times less reason.

ROFL YOUR NAME IS SO BALLER.


Lol thanks man!
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 06:11:23
December 14 2010 05:46 GMT
#344
I'm going to put on my old man hat here.

I've been working as a designer/illustrator for 10 years. Right now I'm managing a multi-million dollar project and managing a team consisting of five design firms, a landscape architect and two architects.

I'm not qualified to opine about IdrA's gameplay or strategies, but I have an opinion about 'professionalism' in general that's worth considering.

The thing is, I WAS AN IDRA. All throughout school and my early career, I was busting my ass. I was pulling 24 hour days every other week. I took design so personally and seriously, I was notorious. I had a reputation for being brutally honest, and talking insane smack about other designers and their work. I cared a great deal about design, and didn't understand anyone who didn't take it as seriously as I did.

And while people respected me, I slowly started to notice that people didn't want to work with me.

IdrA restricts most of his BM on the ladder, but I think it helps to realize who IdrA is laddering against. This isn't Darkforce1879 or BronzeRandom2938. He's laddering against OGS's. Fou's. Primes.

Whether he likes it or not, these are his peers and colleagues. The ladder might as well be the office he works at, every single day.

And he's calling them faggots and telling them to fuck off whenever someone zealot rushes him.

Great for the fans. Bad for his career. If I talked about people in my industry the way IdrA does, I'd be considered unemployable. People wouldn't touch me with a ten foot pole.

Now, let's imagine [knock on wood] that something happens to EG. They have a bad year and they implode. Shit happens. What team is going to pick up IdrA?

Team Liquid? They share a house with OGS.

FXOpen? They just started a week ago.

Root? FNATIC? They already have great players they can't afford to send to Korea.

There are 32 S-Code players in the world. That's 32 jobs, 32 people on the same level as IdrA, 32 people that make a living playing SC2 full-time. We like to pretend that the SC community is huge, but most of us are on the outside looking in. The community of players and commentators that make a full-time living is actually very small.

Now, I'm not saying IdrA should change, or not be 'honest'. But there's a difference between being honest and indulging yourself for shits and giggles.

The only benefit IdrA gets from telling someone to fuck off is those two-seconds of self-satisfaction after you say it.

Meanwhile, he's torching relationships with people that he competes with, day in and day out.

Trust me, it's not worth it.

--

Also, consider this: perhaps the reason why players rush him isn't because they're 'bad' -- it might be because they don't want to help him practice, win or lose.

Viceconroy
Profile Joined October 2010
52 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 06:23:44
December 14 2010 06:11 GMT
#345
amazing thread
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
December 14 2010 06:15 GMT
#346
On December 14 2010 15:11 Viceconroy wrote:
... Your biggest fan, Stan.


10 points for cool reference
-5 for not really applying
-4 for posing

Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 14 2010 06:18 GMT
#347
On December 14 2010 15:11 Viceconroy wrote:
... Your biggest fan, Stan.

Nice try, but no.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
zor.au
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia270 Posts
December 14 2010 06:19 GMT
#348
On December 14 2010 14:46 Defacer wrote:
I'm going to put on my old man hat here.

I've been working as a designer/illustrator for 10 years. Right now I'm managing a multi-million dollar project and managing a team consisting of five design firms, a landscape architect and two architects.

I'm not qualified to opine about IdrA's gameplay or strategies, but I have an opinion about 'professionalism' in general that's worth considering.

The thing is, I WAS AN IDRA. All throughout school and my early career, I was busting my ass. I was pulling 24 hour days every other week. I took design so personally and seriously, I was notorious. I had a reputation for being brutally honest, and talking insane smack about other designers and their work. I cared a great deal about design, and didn't understand anyone who didn't take it as seriously as I did.

And while people respected me, I slowly started to notice that people didn't want to work with me.

IdrA restricts most of his BM on the ladder, but I think it helps to realize who IdrA is laddering against. This isn't Darkforce1879 or BronzeRandom2938. He's laddering against OGS's. Fou's. Primes.

Whether he likes it or not, these are his peers and colleagues. The ladder might as well be the office he works at, every single day.

And he's calling them faggots and telling them to fuck off whenever someone zealot rushes him.

Great for the fans. Bad for his career. If I talked about people in my industry the way IdrA does, I'd be considered unemployable. People wouldn't touch me with a ten foot pole.

Now, let's imagine [knock on wood] that something happens to EG. They have a bad year and they implode. Shit happens. What team is going to pick up IdrA?

Team Liquid? They share a house with OGS.

FXOpen? They just started a week ago.

Root? FNATIC? They already have great players they can't afford to send to Korea.

There are 32 S-Code players in the world. That's 32 jobs, 32 people on the same level as IdrA, 32 people that make a living playing SC2 full-time. We like to pretend that the SC community is huge, but most of us are on the outside looking in. The community of players and commentators that make a full-time living is actually very small.

Now, I'm not saying IdrA should change, or not be 'honest'. But there's a difference between being honest and indulging yourself for shits and giggles.

The only benefit IdrA gets from telling someone to fuck off is those two-seconds of self-satisfaction after you say it.

Meanwhile, he's torching relationships with people that he competes with, day in and day out.

Trust me, it's not worth it.

--

Also, consider this: perhaps the reason why players rush him isn't because they're 'bad' -- it might be because they don't want to help him practice, win or lose.


Also take in the fact the kid dropped out of school to goto Korea and play sc, you think he would try to make the most of it for the future LOL

wow
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 06:25:10
December 14 2010 06:23 GMT
#349
On December 14 2010 14:46 Defacer wrote:


The only benefit IdrA gets from telling someone to fuck off is those two-seconds of self-satisfaction after you say it.

Meanwhile, he's torching relationships with people that he competes with, day in and day out.

Trust me, it's not worth it.

--

Also, consider this: perhaps the reason why players rush him isn't because they're 'bad' -- it might be because they don't want to help him practice, win or lose.



There are certain transcendent talents who can be complete tools and still excel in their field. Most notably, I'm reminded of Barry Bonds of Major League Baseball. No one liked him, and he was a jackass to his teammates, but he still put up insane numbers, won MVP awards, and was generally feared and his abilities given massive respect on the field.

If you have the talent, you can get away with 'BM' behavior in your professional life and in Starcraft II. It may not hurt him professionally. Whether or not he will live a satisfying existence is a fool's debate, and I won't engage in it here. But to say it's not 'worth it' for EGIdrA to BM is projecting quite heavily upon a man none of us really knows.

Edit: Also, I believe people rush EGIdrA not because of any conceived plot to deny him practice, but because it has proven to be the easiest and most effective way to beat him. BM aside, cheesing has proven a viable strategy against him.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
December 14 2010 06:24 GMT
#350
On December 14 2010 15:23 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 14:46 Defacer wrote:


The only benefit IdrA gets from telling someone to fuck off is those two-seconds of self-satisfaction after you say it.

Meanwhile, he's torching relationships with people that he competes with, day in and day out.

Trust me, it's not worth it.

--

Also, consider this: perhaps the reason why players rush him isn't because they're 'bad' -- it might be because they don't want to help him practice, win or lose.



There are certain transcendent talents who can be complete tools and still excel in their field. Most notably, I'm reminded of Barry Bonds of Major League Baseball. No one liked him, and he was a jackass to his teammates, but he still put up insane numbers, won MVP awards, and was generally feared and his abilities given massive respect on the field.

If you have the talent, you can get away with 'BM' behavior in your professional life and in Starcraft II. .

or steroids apparently
posting on liquid sites in current year
kazie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
258 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 06:31:52
December 14 2010 06:25 GMT
#351
On December 14 2010 14:12 MelGibson1337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 13:51 kazie wrote:
On December 14 2010 13:40 MelGibson1337 wrote:
On December 14 2010 13:35 MelGibson1337 wrote:
It's a big deal for Idra because winning at a video game is his life

User was warned for this post


Why am i getting into trouble for writting something that is true and it answers the first guys question?


it's plain to see that you meant that as an insult without anything constructive to back it up. against a TL veteran that is a nono


Have you even read what this thread is about? Its exactly about what you just suggested i was doing except by someone who does it 100 times worse and for 100 times less reason.


have you? he's clearly telling idra to manner up, and idra is known for bm so i'd say it's a valid suggestion

also, did you even bother to at least glance at the rules when you joined? he doesnt have measly 5 posts like you do

User was warned for this post
JayDee_
Profile Joined June 2010
548 Posts
December 14 2010 06:41 GMT
#352
Is idra allowed in the liquid/ogs house? It's so weird, he's friends with the liquid guys but BMs the ogs guys. It's like trolling your friends roommates on facebook.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 06:53:15
December 14 2010 06:46 GMT
#353
On December 14 2010 15:23 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 14:46 Defacer wrote:


The only benefit IdrA gets from telling someone to fuck off is those two-seconds of self-satisfaction after you say it.

Meanwhile, he's torching relationships with people that he competes with, day in and day out.

Trust me, it's not worth it.

--

Also, consider this: perhaps the reason why players rush him isn't because they're 'bad' -- it might be because they don't want to help him practice, win or lose.



There are certain transcendent talents who can be complete tools and still excel in their field. Most notably, I'm reminded of Barry Bonds of Major League Baseball. No one liked him, and he was a jackass to his teammates, but he still put up insane numbers, won MVP awards, and was generally feared and his abilities given massive respect on the field.

If you have the talent, you can get away with 'BM' behavior in your professional life and in Starcraft II. It may not hurt him professionally. Whether or not he will live a satisfying existence is a fool's debate, and I won't engage in it here. But to say it's not 'worth it' for EGIdrA to BM is projecting quite heavily upon a man none of us really knows.

Edit: Also, I believe people rush EGIdrA not because of any conceived plot to deny him practice, but because it has proven to be the easiest and most effective way to beat him. BM aside, cheesing has proven a viable strategy against him.



True enough. But Barry Bonds also played a highly lucrative sport for hundreds of millions of dollars, with a minimum veteran salary north of a million.

He could literally afford to be an asshole.

If I signed Idra to a $50 million contract, as an employer I would have no choice BUT to accept him, BM or not. I can't move or buy-out $50 M. But let's say I sign Idra to a contract worth $50,000 a year -- there's a long line of players gladly willing to replace him, and the loss to me, while painful, isn't catastrophic.

Also, I would say that while IdrA is a great player, there is a slight chance that he is NOT the next Michael Jordan or Barry Bonds of SC2.

Anyway, BM'ing is a waste of IdrA's energy and beneath him. He doesn't have to like everybody and be everyone's buddy, but his life would be a lot easier if he let his game do the talking.

--

Edit: in regards to the cheesing, you're probably right ... but still, what motivation would anyone have to play a long game against him, ever? If he actually made and maintained relationships on the ladder, people would be more likely to indulge him from time to time.
Precision
Profile Joined October 2010
United States67 Posts
December 14 2010 06:50 GMT
#354
On December 13 2010 17:49 elkram wrote:
I feel you are trying to troll right now. Unless you honestly didn't know that IdrA gets mad when he loses:

On April 12 2010 21:42 IdrA wrote:

fuck art
its a competition
if you dont get pissed off when you lose you dont care enough


It's completely fine to be pissed off or upset when you lose.

But there's a clear line between whining and behaving with good sportsmanship in so said "competition."

Besides, he was practicing on the ladder. No need to be upset.

IdrA just doesn't show any sportsmanship. I could care less if he was pissed, but it bothers me when he actually goes out, rages, and whines when he loses. He should just keep his behavior in check - if he can't control his emotions.

Great player. Great respect for him as a player, but not as a person.
jayt88
Profile Joined July 2010
Singapore97 Posts
December 14 2010 07:07 GMT
#355
On December 13 2010 19:25 emythrel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2010 18:06 WarChimp wrote:
Really, what a waste of a blog... its quite funny when he BM's cause hes so epic. Who cares if there is a little bad BM, I mean in football you see brawls, in fact most people hope for brawls just because its entertaining, but do we care? No, so why do we care when IdrA BM's in StarCraft, I certainly don't I look forward to seeing him call the next all-in/cheeser a fucken noob and that hes bad at the game. Cause for one thing, he is right


From what I understand, Ice Hockey is only popular because of the fights.... at least its why people outside North America watch it lol

Idra.... pls never stop insulting noobs!



It is fine if IdrA insults n00bs, the thing is that he insults people better than him.
joban
Profile Joined September 2010
179 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 07:16:15
December 14 2010 07:10 GMT
#356
On December 14 2010 15:23 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 14:46 Defacer wrote:


The only benefit IdrA gets from telling someone to fuck off is those two-seconds of self-satisfaction after you say it.

Meanwhile, he's torching relationships with people that he competes with, day in and day out.

Trust me, it's not worth it.

--

Also, consider this: perhaps the reason why players rush him isn't because they're 'bad' -- it might be because they don't want to help him practice, win or lose.



There are certain transcendent talents who can be complete tools and still excel in their field. Most notably, I'm reminded of Barry Bonds of Major League Baseball. No one liked him, and he was a jackass to his teammates, but he still put up insane numbers, won MVP awards, and was generally feared and his abilities given massive respect on the field.
.


I do hope you realize this is a terrible example. I am a Giants fan- his teammates did not respect him- the only people who loved him were us, his bay area fans.

The reason this is a terrible example is because: Barry Bonds did not retire on his own accord. He wanted to play again, but there was not a single team interested in him when he became a free agent. Think about that- one of the greatest hitters ever, coming off of another monster year, and no team in Major League Baseball was even willing to give him a chance. Not even the SF Giants, his team of 10+ years. The guy had burnt way too many bridges. Barry Bonds would be a great example on why you shouldn't be an asshole and should respect your peers, not an example for the other way around.


Barry Bonds did not get away with "bm" behavior. He was severely punished for it- it prevented/shut him out from playing baseball ever again.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
December 14 2010 07:11 GMT
#357
I felt that it was right to rate the first reply, not the blog post.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 07:20:00
December 14 2010 07:19 GMT
#358
On December 14 2010 16:10 joban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 15:23 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On December 14 2010 14:46 Defacer wrote:


The only benefit IdrA gets from telling someone to fuck off is those two-seconds of self-satisfaction after you say it.

Meanwhile, he's torching relationships with people that he competes with, day in and day out.

Trust me, it's not worth it.

--

Also, consider this: perhaps the reason why players rush him isn't because they're 'bad' -- it might be because they don't want to help him practice, win or lose.



There are certain transcendent talents who can be complete tools and still excel in their field. Most notably, I'm reminded of Barry Bonds of Major League Baseball. No one liked him, and he was a jackass to his teammates, but he still put up insane numbers, won MVP awards, and was generally feared and his abilities given massive respect on the field.
.


I do hope you realize this is a terrible example. I am a Giants fan- his teammates did not respect him- the only people who loved him were us, his bay area fans.

The reason this is a terrible example is because: Barry Bonds did not retire on his own accord. He wanted to play again, but there was not a single team interested in him when he became a free agent. Think about that- one of the greatest hitters ever, coming off of another monster year, and no team in Major League Baseball was even willing to give him a chance. Not even the SF Giants, his team of 10+ years. The guy had burnt way too many bridges. Barry Bonds would be a great example on why you shouldn't be an asshole and should respect your peers, not an example for the other way around.


Barry Bonds did not get away with "bm" behavior. He was severely punished for it- it prevented/shut him out from playing baseball ever again.


And unlike Barry Bonds, IdrA does not have the luxury of going home to a bed made of shit-tons of money.
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
December 14 2010 07:29 GMT
#359
On December 14 2010 10:50 SiCkO_ wrote:

Let IdrA trash talk in America, once he proves that he can win (MLG, WCG, etc) or he can get his act together (unlikely), he can go back. Until then, let him be hidden away at home so that our talented and friendly players get highlighted, not a bitter, arrogant, and snobbish one.


IdrA Won MLG DC in 2010.....
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
December 14 2010 07:33 GMT
#360
On December 14 2010 16:10 joban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 15:23 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On December 14 2010 14:46 Defacer wrote:


The only benefit IdrA gets from telling someone to fuck off is those two-seconds of self-satisfaction after you say it.

Meanwhile, he's torching relationships with people that he competes with, day in and day out.

Trust me, it's not worth it.

--

Also, consider this: perhaps the reason why players rush him isn't because they're 'bad' -- it might be because they don't want to help him practice, win or lose.



There are certain transcendent talents who can be complete tools and still excel in their field. Most notably, I'm reminded of Barry Bonds of Major League Baseball. No one liked him, and he was a jackass to his teammates, but he still put up insane numbers, won MVP awards, and was generally feared and his abilities given massive respect on the field.
.


I do hope you realize this is a terrible example. I am a Giants fan- his teammates did not respect him- the only people who loved him were us, his bay area fans.

The reason this is a terrible example is because: Barry Bonds did not retire on his own accord. He wanted to play again, but there was not a single team interested in him when he became a free agent. Think about that- one of the greatest hitters ever, coming off of another monster year, and no team in Major League Baseball was even willing to give him a chance. Not even the SF Giants, his team of 10+ years. The guy had burnt way too many bridges. Barry Bonds would be a great example on why you shouldn't be an asshole and should respect your peers, not an example for the other way around.


Barry Bonds did not get away with "bm" behavior. He was severely punished for it- it prevented/shut him out from playing baseball ever again.


I'm also a Giants fan, which is why I used him as an example. I stated they respected him on the field, evidence by the chickens hanging out in front of the arcade, remember?

As far as not getting a contract, I have reason to believe this was because of his impending legal hearings coupled with his age. He was a high-risk target not because of his attitude but the factors I just listed. I'm not saying you're wrong, but this is my belief and under that set of opinions, the analogy holds up.

(Sorry for the quote pyramid)
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