Hi IdrA - Page 18

On December 14 2010 14:12 MelGibson1337 wrote:


Have you even read what this thread is about? Its exactly about what you just suggested i was doing except by someone who does it 100 times worse and for 100 times less reason.

On December 14 2010 14:38 Cha1R wrote:

ROFL YOUR NAME IS SO BALLER.

On December 14 2010 15:11 Viceconroy wrote:
... Your biggest fan, Stan.

On December 14 2010 15:11 Viceconroy wrote:
... Your biggest fan, Stan.

On December 14 2010 14:46 Defacer wrote:
I'm going to put on my old man hat here.

I've been working as a designer/illustrator for 10 years. Right now I'm managing a multi-million dollar project and managing a team consisting of five design firms, a landscape architect and two architects.

I'm not qualified to opine about IdrA's gameplay or strategies, but I have an opinion about 'professionalism' in general that's worth considering.

The thing is, I WAS AN IDRA. All throughout school and my early career, I was busting my ass. I was pulling 24 hour days every other week. I took design so personally and seriously, I was notorious. I had a reputation for being brutally honest, and talking insane smack about other designers and their work. I cared a great deal about design, and didn't understand anyone who didn't take it as seriously as I did.

And while people respected me, I slowly started to notice that people didn't want to work with me.

IdrA restricts most of his BM on the ladder, but I think it helps to realize who IdrA is laddering against. This isn't Darkforce1879 or BronzeRandom2938. He's laddering against OGS's. Fou's. Primes.

Whether he likes it or not, these are his peers and colleagues. The ladder might as well be the office he works at, every single day.

And he's calling them faggots and telling them to fuck off whenever someone zealot rushes him.

Great for the fans. Bad for his career. If I talked about people in my industry the way IdrA does, I'd be considered unemployable. People wouldn't touch me with a ten foot pole.

Now, let's imagine [knock on wood] that something happens to EG. They have a bad year and they implode. Shit happens. What team is going to pick up IdrA?

Team Liquid? They share a house with OGS.

FXOpen? They just started a week ago.

Root? FNATIC? They already have great players they can't afford to send to Korea.

There are 32 S-Code players in the world. That's 32 jobs, 32 people on the same level as IdrA, 32 people that make a living playing SC2 full-time. We like to pretend that the SC community is huge, but most of us are on the outside looking in. The community of players and commentators that make a full-time living is actually very small.

Now, I'm not saying IdrA should change, or not be 'honest'. But there's a difference between being honest and indulging yourself for shits and giggles.

The only benefit IdrA gets from telling someone to fuck off is those two-seconds of self-satisfaction after you say it.

Meanwhile, he's torching relationships with people that he competes with, day in and day out.

Trust me, it's not worth it.

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Also, consider this: perhaps the reason why players rush him isn't because they're 'bad' -- it might be because they don't want to help him practice, win or lose.

On December 14 2010 14:46 Defacer wrote:


The only benefit IdrA gets from telling someone to fuck off is those two-seconds of self-satisfaction after you say it.

Meanwhile, he's torching relationships with people that he competes with, day in and day out.

Trust me, it's not worth it.

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Also, consider this: perhaps the reason why players rush him isn't because they're 'bad' -- it might be because they don't want to help him practice, win or lose.

On December 14 2010 15:23 Hurricane Sponge wrote:


There are certain transcendent talents who can be complete tools and still excel in their field. Most notably, I'm reminded of Barry Bonds of Major League Baseball. No one liked him, and he was a jackass to his teammates, but he still put up insane numbers, won MVP awards, and was generally feared and his abilities given massive respect on the field.

If you have the talent, you can get away with 'BM' behavior in your professional life and in Starcraft II. .

On December 14 2010 14:12 MelGibson1337 wrote:


Have you even read what this thread is about? Its exactly about what you just suggested i was doing except by someone who does it 100 times worse and for 100 times less reason.

On December 14 2010 15:23 Hurricane Sponge wrote:


There are certain transcendent talents who can be complete tools and still excel in their field. Most notably, I'm reminded of Barry Bonds of Major League Baseball. No one liked him, and he was a jackass to his teammates, but he still put up insane numbers, won MVP awards, and was generally feared and his abilities given massive respect on the field.

If you have the talent, you can get away with 'BM' behavior in your professional life and in Starcraft II. It may not hurt him professionally. Whether or not he will live a satisfying existence is a fool's debate, and I won't engage in it here. But to say it's not 'worth it' for EGIdrA to BM is projecting quite heavily upon a man none of us really knows.

Edit: Also, I believe people rush EGIdrA not because of any conceived plot to deny him practice, but because it has proven to be the easiest and most effective way to beat him. BM aside, cheesing has proven a viable strategy against him.

On December 13 2010 17:49 elkram wrote:
I feel you are trying to troll right now. Unless you honestly didn't know that IdrA gets mad when he loses:

On April 12 2010 21:42 IdrA wrote:

fuck art
its a competition
if you dont get pissed off when you lose you dont care enough

On December 13 2010 19:25 emythrel wrote:


From what I understand, Ice Hockey is only popular because of the fights.... at least its why people outside North America watch it lol

Idra.... pls never stop insulting noobs!

On December 14 2010 15:23 Hurricane Sponge wrote:


There are certain transcendent talents who can be complete tools and still excel in their field. Most notably, I'm reminded of Barry Bonds of Major League Baseball. No one liked him, and he was a jackass to his teammates, but he still put up insane numbers, won MVP awards, and was generally feared and his abilities given massive respect on the field.
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On December 14 2010 16:10 joban wrote:


I do hope you realize this is a terrible example. I am a Giants fan- his teammates did not respect him- the only people who loved him were us, his bay area fans.

The reason this is a terrible example is because: Barry Bonds did not retire on his own accord. He wanted to play again, but there was not a single team interested in him when he became a free agent. Think about that- one of the greatest hitters ever, coming off of another monster year, and no team in Major League Baseball was even willing to give him a chance. Not even the SF Giants, his team of 10+ years. The guy had burnt way too many bridges. Barry Bonds would be a great example on why you shouldn't be an asshole and should respect your peers, not an example for the other way around.


Barry Bonds did not get away with "bm" behavior. He was severely punished for it- it prevented/shut him out from playing baseball ever again.

On December 14 2010 10:50 SiCkO_ wrote:

Let IdrA trash talk in America, once he proves that he can win (MLG, WCG, etc) or he can get his act together (unlikely), he can go back. Until then, let him be hidden away at home so that our talented and friendly players get highlighted, not a bitter, arrogant, and snobbish one.

On December 14 2010 16:10 joban wrote:


I do hope you realize this is a terrible example. I am a Giants fan- his teammates did not respect him- the only people who loved him were us, his bay area fans.

The reason this is a terrible example is because: Barry Bonds did not retire on his own accord. He wanted to play again, but there was not a single team interested in him when he became a free agent. Think about that- one of the greatest hitters ever, coming off of another monster year, and no team in Major League Baseball was even willing to give him a chance. Not even the SF Giants, his team of 10+ years. The guy had burnt way too many bridges. Barry Bonds would be a great example on why you shouldn't be an asshole and should respect your peers, not an example for the other way around.


Barry Bonds did not get away with "bm" behavior. He was severely punished for it- it prevented/shut him out from playing baseball ever again.