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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 04:42:52
December 03 2010 04:27 GMT
#1
Edit: Please don't just vote, explain your reasons please!


Poll: Would you help wikileaks spread information ?

Yes , I would but I don't (51)
 
54%

No, and I wouldn't (27)
 
29%

Yes, I do (12)
 
13%

no, but I should (4)
 
4%

94 total votes

Your vote: Would you help wikileaks spread information ?

(Vote): Yes, I do
(Vote): Yes , I would but I don't
(Vote): No, and I wouldn't
(Vote): no, but I should





Am I the only person that is in a spot, where they wish they could in some way help them continue but lacks the technical skill, money and balls to risk everything to do it?

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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
December 03 2010 04:44 GMT
#2
i don't like chaos, so no
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
December 03 2010 04:45 GMT
#3
I feel the same way. I don't know what else to say. There's stuff up on there that you aren't going to hear from the media for example, despite it being true. Or even worse stuff you will hear mentioned on the media that is not truthful, and I hate being lied to. I support them 100% and would contribute if I had anything worth contributing.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
December 03 2010 04:47 GMT
#4
On December 03 2010 13:44 nayumi wrote:
i don't like chaos, so no

I'd rather have what you call "chaos" than the opposite, i.e. 1984 style.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
December 03 2010 04:51 GMT
#5
I dunno; I'm pretty indifferent on the whole thing.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Whitesheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States59 Posts
December 03 2010 04:59 GMT
#6
On December 03 2010 13:51 Craton wrote:
I dunno; I'm pretty indifferent on the whole thing.


as am i.


the information isn't exactly jaw-dropping, you can take a rough guess what's going on without the given information wiki's provisioned.
pfft
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
December 03 2010 05:00 GMT
#7
I find it hilarious that some leaders like those of Venezuela and Ecuador are praising Julian Assange just because they take this as anti-american thing. I wonder what they have to say once he release bad stuff about Venezuela and Ecuador.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
December 03 2010 05:04 GMT
#8
On December 03 2010 14:00 don_kyuhote wrote:
I find it hilarious that some leaders like those of Venezuela and Ecuador are praising Julian Assange just because they take this as anti-american thing. I wonder what they have to say once he release bad stuff about Venezuela and Ecuador.

that he's sleeping with "the cappys" and turned his back on them in betrayal...or something
Kishkumen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States650 Posts
December 03 2010 05:10 GMT
#9
I dislike Wikileaks because I disagree with their philosophy that information is good. Information as a whole is ethically neutral. There is good information and bad information. For instance, the recent leaks don't seem to have done much other than harm international relations and cause a scandal. I don't see many positives in damaging fragile international relationships by illegally releasing documents. True, there was some increased governmental transparency added by the documents, but I don't think that outweighs the damage it caused.
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Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
December 03 2010 05:18 GMT
#10
Ignorance is bliss.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 07:14:51
December 03 2010 07:13 GMT
#11
Knowledge is power. I don't want to live as a mindless sheep or a brainless zombie. I definitely WANT to know what's going on in this world, I want to know what the guys I voted for are up to.
I voted "no but I should" because honestly I don't want to end up in jail for spreading classified information.

you can take a rough guess what's going on without the given information wiki's provisioned.

There are some very interesting cables talking about things that I wouldn't even suspect.

The cable named 10PARIS58, subject : EMBASSY PARIS - MINORITY ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY is very interesting and shows how US watches over its allies and how involved it is.
o choro é livre
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15355 Posts
December 03 2010 08:48 GMT
#12
Where is yes, and I have?
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 08:53:25
December 03 2010 08:52 GMT
#13
On December 03 2010 17:48 zatic wrote:
Where is yes, and I have?

Yes, I do, will have to suffice.

Edit: To respond to op, I hold the same opinion as you, I believe in what wikileaks is doing, I just have nothing of value to contribute.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
December 03 2010 08:53 GMT
#14
On December 03 2010 17:48 zatic wrote:
Where is yes, and I have?



Of all people I respect on this site, you rose from top 5, to number fucking 1 by a mile.

Right on brother!
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
December 03 2010 08:55 GMT
#15
On December 03 2010 17:52 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 17:48 zatic wrote:
Where is yes, and I have?

Yes, I do, will have to suffice.

Edit: To respond to op, I hold the same opinion as you, I believe in what wikileaks is doing, I just have nothing of value to contribute.


If I wasn't scared of the system I live in, I would find a way.

I could expose a LOT of bofa corruption and small to mid range corporate tactics used to shell money around but I have used a lot of the info I have to my advantage at one time or another and I wouldn't want to call the kettle black ...
SeeDLiNg
Profile Joined January 2010
United States690 Posts
December 03 2010 17:12 GMT
#16
Spreading information isn't bad...
Soiling celeb names is bad...
http://www.theonion.com/articles/julian-assange-fired-from-it-job-at-pentagon,18572/
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2094 Posts
December 04 2010 12:22 GMT
#17
If anyone wonders how to access wikileaks at the moment, here you go:

Wikileaks

I've had a look around and found the available information fascinating. Mostly I talk about what I read, so I guess I am "spreading the information".
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
December 04 2010 14:25 GMT
#18
If I were in a position to leak nontrivial information but had agreed previously to confidentiality, then no I wouldn't though yes I should if there were sufficient reason to do so.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2094 Posts
December 04 2010 15:32 GMT
#19
On December 04 2010 23:25 EtherealDeath wrote:
If I were in a position to leak nontrivial information but had agreed previously to confidentiality, then no I wouldn't though yes I should if there were sufficient reason to do so.


I think the important distinction is between leaking any nontrivial information and nontrivial information that reveals wrong (unlawful, unethical, etc.) practices. Just leaking anything for the sake of freeing information, as some people advocate, seems very extreme. WikiLeaks doesn't do that though.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Nuwen
Profile Joined October 2010
United States31 Posts
December 07 2010 19:25 GMT
#20
http://213.251.145.96/mass-mirror.html
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
December 08 2010 20:00 GMT
#21
freedom of speech, government shouldnt have anything to hide
so yes i approve
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
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