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Edit: Please don't just vote, explain your reasons please!
Poll: Would you help wikileaks spread information ?Yes , I would but I don't (51) 54% No, and I wouldn't (27) 29% Yes, I do (12) 13% no, but I should (4) 4% 94 total votes Your vote: Would you help wikileaks spread information ? (Vote): Yes, I do (Vote): Yes , I would but I don't (Vote): No, and I wouldn't (Vote): no, but I should
Am I the only person that is in a spot, where they wish they could in some way help them continue but lacks the technical skill, money and balls to risk everything to do it?
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i don't like chaos, so no
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I feel the same way. I don't know what else to say. There's stuff up on there that you aren't going to hear from the media for example, despite it being true. Or even worse stuff you will hear mentioned on the media that is not truthful, and I hate being lied to. I support them 100% and would contribute if I had anything worth contributing.
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On December 03 2010 13:44 nayumi wrote: i don't like chaos, so no I'd rather have what you call "chaos" than the opposite, i.e. 1984 style.
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I dunno; I'm pretty indifferent on the whole thing.
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On December 03 2010 13:51 Craton wrote: I dunno; I'm pretty indifferent on the whole thing.
as am i.
the information isn't exactly jaw-dropping, you can take a rough guess what's going on without the given information wiki's provisioned.
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I find it hilarious that some leaders like those of Venezuela and Ecuador are praising Julian Assange just because they take this as anti-american thing. I wonder what they have to say once he release bad stuff about Venezuela and Ecuador.
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On December 03 2010 14:00 don_kyuhote wrote: I find it hilarious that some leaders like those of Venezuela and Ecuador are praising Julian Assange just because they take this as anti-american thing. I wonder what they have to say once he release bad stuff about Venezuela and Ecuador. that he's sleeping with "the cappys" and turned his back on them in betrayal...or something
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I dislike Wikileaks because I disagree with their philosophy that information is good. Information as a whole is ethically neutral. There is good information and bad information. For instance, the recent leaks don't seem to have done much other than harm international relations and cause a scandal. I don't see many positives in damaging fragile international relationships by illegally releasing documents. True, there was some increased governmental transparency added by the documents, but I don't think that outweighs the damage it caused.
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Knowledge is power. I don't want to live as a mindless sheep or a brainless zombie. I definitely WANT to know what's going on in this world, I want to know what the guys I voted for are up to. I voted "no but I should" because honestly I don't want to end up in jail for spreading classified information.
you can take a rough guess what's going on without the given information wiki's provisioned. There are some very interesting cables talking about things that I wouldn't even suspect.
The cable named 10PARIS58, subject : EMBASSY PARIS - MINORITY ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY is very interesting and shows how US watches over its allies and how involved it is.
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Zurich15303 Posts
Where is yes, and I have?
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On December 03 2010 17:48 zatic wrote: Where is yes, and I have? Yes, I do, will have to suffice.
Edit: To respond to op, I hold the same opinion as you, I believe in what wikileaks is doing, I just have nothing of value to contribute.
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On December 03 2010 17:48 zatic wrote: Where is yes, and I have?
Of all people I respect on this site, you rose from top 5, to number fucking 1 by a mile.
Right on brother!
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On December 03 2010 17:52 Lemonwalrus wrote:Yes, I do, will have to suffice. Edit: To respond to op, I hold the same opinion as you, I believe in what wikileaks is doing, I just have nothing of value to contribute.
If I wasn't scared of the system I live in, I would find a way.
I could expose a LOT of bofa corruption and small to mid range corporate tactics used to shell money around but I have used a lot of the info I have to my advantage at one time or another and I wouldn't want to call the kettle black ...
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If anyone wonders how to access wikileaks at the moment, here you go:
Wikileaks
I've had a look around and found the available information fascinating. Mostly I talk about what I read, so I guess I am "spreading the information".
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If I were in a position to leak nontrivial information but had agreed previously to confidentiality, then no I wouldn't though yes I should if there were sufficient reason to do so.
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On December 04 2010 23:25 EtherealDeath wrote: If I were in a position to leak nontrivial information but had agreed previously to confidentiality, then no I wouldn't though yes I should if there were sufficient reason to do so.
I think the important distinction is between leaking any nontrivial information and nontrivial information that reveals wrong (unlawful, unethical, etc.) practices. Just leaking anything for the sake of freeing information, as some people advocate, seems very extreme. WikiLeaks doesn't do that though.
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