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Tayko
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands47 Posts
November 03 2010 23:08 GMT
#21
On November 04 2010 08:02 sleepingdog wrote:
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On November 04 2010 06:21 Logo wrote:
Your keyboard has a different layout than US keyboards where z is on the bottom left I think. None the less do you have tiny hands or a big keyboard? I have larger than average hands so shift->y (same spot as your z) is not much of a stretch at all. For reference I can hit left shift+o with my pinky and index finger.


Ah, sorry for confusion, yes obviously Z/Y is switched for me - nice catch btw, haven't thought of that

Dunno if I have a big keyboard but I have definitely small hands (pain for piano-playing as well), I can't even hit left shift + i let alone o with pinky and index; left shift + u is the best I can do and therefore left shift + Z/Y "feels not right"

Before anybody states the obvious: of course nobody should switch away from something he is very comfortable with...I was just asking out of pure interest.


i also cant even hit left shift + i, my keyboard isnt big my hands are just kinda small, kinda rly small xD

i seem to keep my ring middle and index on 123 and use thumb for ctrl Z/S and pinky on shift
-CheekyDuck-
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia398 Posts
November 04 2010 01:35 GMT
#22
i also have very small hands.
to practise i type with just the left hand daily.
i also practise hotkeys in a word document.

i.e 3is sentrys and 2 is stalkers, example:

3f3g3f3g3f3g3f3g3f3g3f3g3f3g3f3g
2b2b2b2b22b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b2b22b

anyway over time it will just be automatic to what will work best for you naturally.

hope that helps ; )

More expensive than a mothership
Cyclon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States99 Posts
November 04 2010 02:09 GMT
#23
Use grid layout. Makes everything ridiculously simple. Manually change commands like attack or burrow if you find their position awkward.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
November 04 2010 02:38 GMT
#24
Grid layout is kinda bad.

You have your hotkey stuff on 1-6 while unit abilities are on the lowest row and in awkward spots like z,x,c. For zerg there's also overlap for zerg with hatchery stuff and larva units. So you can quite easily research hatchery stuff when you want to build units but have 0 larva.

Just do something like 1z and see how awkward/far it is compared to 1b (blink).
Logo
Seide
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States831 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-04 07:34:35
November 04 2010 07:33 GMT
#25
On November 04 2010 11:38 Logo wrote:
Grid layout is kinda bad.

You have your hotkey stuff on 1-6 while unit abilities are on the lowest row and in awkward spots like z,x,c. For zerg there's also overlap for zerg with hatchery stuff and larva units. So you can quite easily research hatchery stuff when you want to build units but have 0 larva.

Just do something like 1z and see how awkward/far it is compared to 1b (blink).


I like grid for terran, nice to have building on 1-4 and units on 5, 6. Easy access to attack move and hold, also easy acess to all unit hotkeys.
z, x, c arent that out of the way, you are pretty used to hitting them if you are a WoW player.

For Zerg and Protoss though, absolutely hate grid hotkeys for different reasons. Zerg for overlap, and for protoss their standard hotkeys seem more intuitive to me.
One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish.
Tuneful
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States327 Posts
November 04 2010 07:45 GMT
#26
http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Plexa/daypodcasts/Day90008-MECH1Basics.mp3

I used this podcast as a guide, it's so good.

Ask yourself: how can you get to the hotkeys you need to execute your plan quickly and comfortably? Then, try different things and adjust accordingly.
"I play this game for three years, twelve hours a day - I shouldn't lose to these people"
Tayko
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands47 Posts
November 09 2010 22:11 GMT
#27
ok thanks all :3 you have been very helpfull to me :D
Slakkoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1119 Posts
November 09 2010 22:29 GMT
#28
Well , as I've always played FPS games my hand is like lying so nice on WASD for some reason...
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 09 2010 22:30 GMT
#29
moved to blogs
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
crw
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada70 Posts
November 09 2010 22:30 GMT
#30
On November 04 2010 05:03 Vz0 wrote:
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On November 04 2010 05:01 NeXiLe wrote:
Coming from FPS's, I generally still have my hand on WASD. Number keys are very close by and I still have instant access to warp gates, attack and stop (although I don't use stop all that often.) Ctrl is pressed with the area below my pinkey^^

ya same ^___^

Because of this I will never be able to be pr0w like all the rts pr0s that can use #s 1-10 on their keyboard.

I can only use 1-4, 5 is stretching it.

In FPS 1 is your main gun. 2 is your side arm. 3 is your nife. 4 is your flashbang/grenade.

Rarely do you go pass that.





i'm from an FPS, and it takes about 1 day or 2 to get used to using more than 5 on a keyboard.

5 is my hatchery, every queen i get afterwards is 6,7,8,9,0 (most i've had is that many queen teams).

u're just lazy


ps. in FPS games you use E for lightning gun, q for Railgun. 1 2 3 4 are just normal, F is rocket launcher...

yuh, i'm talking about the only real FPS game ever - Quake.
Zerg need heavy buffs from Tier 1 to tier 3, against Terran and Protoss. blizzard needs to get on the ball or lose SC2 as an eSports venue.
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
November 09 2010 22:42 GMT
#31
I can't believe this picture is still out there lol

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Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 20:12:54
November 10 2010 20:08 GMT
#32
On November 10 2010 07:42 EsX_Raptor wrote:
I can't believe this picture is still out there lol

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Lol did you find this from SFW funny pictures :D ?! Made my day.

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I'm expecting this is not normal position for hand- at all!
as useful as teasalt
TheOGBlitzKrieg
Profile Joined June 2010
United States346 Posts
November 10 2010 20:11 GMT
#33
what you do is this... go buy a razer naga, and then you can use all keybindings with your thumb on your mouse 1 through 0, and you can keep your fingers on w,a,s,d, ctrl, space, etc.
Skrag
Profile Joined May 2010
United States643 Posts
November 11 2010 05:21 GMT
#34
On November 04 2010 11:38 Logo wrote:
Grid layout is kinda bad.

You have your hotkey stuff on 1-6 while unit abilities are on the lowest row and in awkward spots like z,x,c. For zerg there's also overlap for zerg with hatchery stuff and larva units. So you can quite easily research hatchery stuff when you want to build units but have 0 larva.

Just do something like 1z and see how awkward/far it is compared to 1b (blink).


Yes, grid is pretty bad, even if you ignore the attack=t problem (too many years of rts gaming using a to attack for me to ever get used to grid). I'm hoping and praying that when the implement customizable keys, that they also let you move stuff around on the grid, so you can set up a grid layout that has better positions.
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