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Mada_Jiang
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Deleted User 3420
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But I will say, what a bitch! | ||
infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
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eSen1a
Australia1058 Posts
some girls don't understand that watching a whole tv series on youtube = bad for usage u can limit her download speed, u could have a usage monitor... but in all honesty theres not much you can do. in my house it seems to be a race to use as much as you can and then its no more games and downloads for the rest of the month  | ||
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kineSiS-
Korea (South)1068 Posts
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
hope that never spreads to the us. | ||
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HeadhunteR
Argentina1258 Posts
mm cant help you out here ive never had that kind of problem and i do live in a 3rd world place.. we dont have any kind of 100gig cap and i pay 15 dollars worth of broadband. Its hard to believe that australia has such bad internet service. Maybe putting a password to the internet provider? or wi fi connection? do you have a wi fi connection? | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
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SichuanPanda
Canada1542 Posts
The next step after verification of who is using the bandwidth and more so how much they are using, is to purchase a new router (or update your current one - NOTE: This is very dangerous with some models of router check carefully the documentation at the second link [DD-WRT] as some rare cases can cause a router to stop working altogether) and install on the router DD-WRT (or similar third-party router package). This will allow to do port throttling, and a wide array of other traffic control features - you will be able to set a 25 GB a month cap on the network cable that is connected to 'Jane's' computer and provided your friend is the only one who knows the password there is nothing she can do about it, other than cut back, or pay for an additional connection herself. Hope this helps, links below: Microsoft Network Monitor 3.4 DD-WRT Third-Party Router Firmware Edit: In Canada our internet is actually ranked 115th world-wide in terms of quality. 60 GB a month cap is considered MAMMOTH (and comes at a premium price of 60 dollars a month). 99 GB is 99 dollars a month. Speed ranges from 1.5 MBPS to 25 MBPS (but 15 - 25 MBPS Fibre is available in 'select' meaning very very few regions) and also speeds above 10 MBPS only became available less than a year ago. Edit 2: Oh yea PM me for more info if needed. | ||
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shurgen
350 Posts
To the OP: That plan sounds awesome. Sometimes you have to do things like this to make people understand. | ||
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
My suggestion is that since she's not paying for the internet (at least I don;t think?), that she doesn't have the liberty to be using up all the usage, so If your friend wants to pull the plug, then he has the right to do it. Also, make sure you talk to her about this issue, several times if it doesn't get through the first time. | ||
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SichuanPanda
Canada1542 Posts
On September 10 2010 14:30 shurgen wrote: ^ I only have 60GB a month! I've yet to go even close to the limit to be honest. There have been 3 months where I've hit the 75% point a day or 2 before a new month. To the OP: That plan sounds awesome. Sometimes you have to do things like this to make people understand. I can't get close to my limit because my net is so damn slow (I've got the 'portable internet' wireless BS, because for some reason I can't get a wired connection) lol. | ||
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Mada_Jiang
Australia236 Posts
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THE_DOMINATOR
United States309 Posts
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tofucake
Hyrule19135 Posts
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TadH
Canada1846 Posts
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Butigroove
Seychelles2061 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
Anyway, you have a few options. I personally would explain and ban use of p2p or at least explain very carefully when and when it is not okay to have it on. You can't do IP level filtering because Chinese softwares like Xun Lei are designed to go around that. And there are things like PPmate or PPstream which good luck trying to explain to them that they can't use that. Okay here is what you do, this is how I solved the problem. 1. Search around and see if you are in TPG's exchange area. I just changed over to their full unlimited (NO DOWNLOAD LIMIT) internet for $75 dollars a month. 2. Don't waste your money on any fancy modem unless you are willing to pay a lot more. Chinese hackery eat those alive. 3. Explain to everyone the situation and dictate when and when it is not okay to have p2p going on, say that if it is not improved by certain date and date, the person either have to leave the house or get their own internet connection. Simple, effective and to the point. I did this when I was sharing a house with 4 fobs, they would go nuts until the limit is up, so I made one couple getting their own and its being okay ever since. | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
On September 10 2010 16:58 Mada_Jiang wrote: Wow! Argentina has better net than us... but why is net in Canada so expensive? Thanks for the awesome input guys. I agree with all those suggestions on letting her know and just pulling the plug all together but it seems like the agreement was that her rent covered internet usage aswell? its just that she is not using her fair share. And yeah I have also heard many times about guys who live together and just race to download as much as they can, humans disgust me sometimes i swear, why can't people just have some common sense and common decency. Big thanks to Sechuan Panda Tell me does this network monitor needs to be installed on her computer too? If not, will we be able to monitor her usage remotely and find out how much she has used over time if we were to leave the computer on? I have a Linksys WRT something.... I might trying that firmware aswell if network monitor dosn't do the job. Look mate, don't go down that route. Installing monitor software on people's computer is offensive and you create an air of mistrust and that monitoring software is completely useless because you don't have 24/7 to make sure it works. Trust me, I know, I've done it before. The best that you can do is get a cheap WRT54GL and flash the firmware so you can do traffic shaping per IP but that's a lot of work and easy for someone who knows how to get around the traffic shaping. Don't even argue against the fob about internet being part of the bill or whatever, give her an ultimatum, if she get her own connection, deduct $50 dollars from her rent or leave. It's not like she is going to sue you or anything, room mates rely more on each other's honestly and understanding than anything else. | ||
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vek
Australia936 Posts
The only way to get the full terrabyte (500gb peak, 500 offpeak) is to bundle with phone but that's not a massive deal since you can do both with no contract. I just recently switched to the 200/200 unbundled plan. In a house of ~5 people who contribute to heavy usage this is a lifesaver as we were on 70/90 previously and getting capped half way through the month | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Mada_Jiang
Australia236 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
However, the problem with this approach is that they can just change the port or use SSL and you can't do anything about it. Some Chinese software even mask themselves as normal HTTP traffic :/ I still think the best idea is ask her to either stop or pay for her own Internet. The key issues at hand are: 1. You are a house mate, you are not a system administrator, it's incredibly exhausting to go around enforcing rules that you do not have the time and resource for. 2. Sharing rent is based on understanding and trust. You need people that cooperate and willing to work together. 3. If she can be selfish like this, then what happens later when you have dispute about rent or gas bill? 4. Your friend's group is made up of his family members + 1 extra girl so there will be tensions because she thinks they are all working against her. Honestly though, my advice is to approach her, have a long conversation about what is happening and what is required. Set the rules in place, explain to her that this rule is beneficial to everyone (Especially if people in the house depend on Internet to do their research or work). If the Internet allowance is not adequate, you need to negotiate a bigger limit (They are cheap these days). My rules are: Work, school, family Skye calling comes before anything else. No big download between 5pm to 10pm during weekdays and no download during weekend. Download during off peak time is okay but everyone needs to cap their limit to 500KB (My connection has 2MB so 4 people). PPstream, PPMate or any other online streaming software needs to be turned off during peak hour if some one requests it. ^ This is part of terms and condition that I make new room mates sign off on. You probably need to introduce this. Personally, I've being burned by people in situations like these who skipped rent and left after a dispute so I'm doing a 3 strike policy, if I tell them 3 times and the situation don't improve. Bye bye. But yeah, If there were already tensions between your bro and the fob girl, then the best thing to do is either ask her to leave or make her get her own Internet. There is no way around it, I've seen my fair share of things going south (even between friends), best of luck! | ||
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NukeTheBunnys
United States1004 Posts
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Tomato_(firmware) | ||
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HuK
Canada1591 Posts
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Mada_Jiang
Australia236 Posts
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5513 Posts
And it's not clear from the OP, is she actually hitting the 100gb cap or is it just the amount of connections she's opening that is slowing down the internet for everyone else? | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
She doesn't even have to hit 100GB by herself but going nuts on download means that the cap is hit sooner than planned meaning the rest of the house have to live on crappy connection for the rest of the months. The problem often stems from the fact that Chinese people are usually very into p2p sharing but not very educated about using Internet, they often spam multiple flash sites, load emule or Xunlei in the background and listen to mp3 over the net. This is okay for people like her in China because her family probably have enough money to cover their own Internet and its very rare for Chinese people to share room in China especially if they have a family in the city. The only time when they do have to share is during college and she missed out on that group dynamic lesson because she studies in Australia. I wouldn't be surprised if she has spyware or virus on her computer that pulls traffic in the background. To the OP, tell her to gtfo. Seriously, I do not tolerate those one child wonders, you get fucking 22 year olds who won't even lift a finger to change their light bulb and go around wasting their parent's money, how the fuck did we get to this point, I feel sad for China. | ||
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TimmyMac
Canada499 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
It's not hard when you are pulling full HD seasons of TV shows :D | ||
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Laerties
United States361 Posts
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Mada_Jiang
Australia236 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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