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Mada_Jiang
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Australia236 Posts
September 10 2010 04:10 GMT
#1
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 10 2010 04:20 GMT
#2
Well it sounds like you already have a pretty good plan in action...

But I will say, what a bitch!
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
September 10 2010 04:22 GMT
#3
While I wouldn't call that BM per se, it's your friend's accomodations, and he has the right to set internet usage rules, especially if he is paying for the internet. I say full steam ahead, an even quota division isn't unreasonable in any way.
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eSen1a
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1058 Posts
September 10 2010 04:37 GMT
#4
i have the same problem
some girls don't understand that watching a whole tv series on youtube = bad for usage
u can limit her download speed, u could have a usage monitor... but in all honesty theres not much you can do. in my house it seems to be a race to use as much as you can and then its no more games and downloads for the rest of the month
kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
September 10 2010 04:49 GMT
#5
Wow that is terrible. Okay, basically you should sit thi spesron down and make sure they understand that unless they are willing to leave, as a tenant they should follow YOUR RULES.
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
September 10 2010 05:03 GMT
#6
ugh this sounds like a bitch to deal with. both the bitch and the fact that you have an internet usage cap hope that never spreads to the us.
HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
September 10 2010 05:07 GMT
#7
wow that internet service sucks ass its limited to 100 gigs per month why?=
mm cant help you out here ive never had that kind of problem and i do live in a 3rd world place.. we dont have any kind of 100gig cap and i pay 15 dollars worth of broadband. Its hard to believe that australia has such bad internet service. Maybe putting a password to the internet provider? or wi fi connection? do you have a wi fi connection?
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 10 2010 05:16 GMT
#8
I'd ban torrenting more than 5 gigs a month or something per person. Cause imo torrenting is what will really eat your bandwidth, and is the easiest thing you can control imo.
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SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 05:25:14
September 10 2010 05:20 GMT
#9
Tell your friend to run Network Monitor 3.4 on his computer (link at the bottom) and do a Capture for ALL TCP/IP traffic (ensure that this includes UDP). There is a buffer for how much you can Capture, put this buffer as high as possible. Run the Monitor at a time where speeds are very slow and you will see exactly how much, what, and who is downloading.

The next step after verification of who is using the bandwidth and more so how much they are using, is to purchase a new router (or update your current one - NOTE: This is very dangerous with some models of router check carefully the documentation at the second link [DD-WRT] as some rare cases can cause a router to stop working altogether) and install on the router DD-WRT (or similar third-party router package). This will allow to do port throttling, and a wide array of other traffic control features - you will be able to set a 25 GB a month cap on the network cable that is connected to 'Jane's' computer and provided your friend is the only one who knows the password there is nothing she can do about it, other than cut back, or pay for an additional connection herself.

Hope this helps, links below:

Microsoft Network Monitor 3.4

DD-WRT Third-Party Router Firmware

Edit: In Canada our internet is actually ranked 115th world-wide in terms of quality. 60 GB a month cap is considered MAMMOTH (and comes at a premium price of 60 dollars a month). 99 GB is 99 dollars a month. Speed ranges from 1.5 MBPS to 25 MBPS (but 15 - 25 MBPS Fibre is available in 'select' meaning very very few regions) and also speeds above 10 MBPS only became available less than a year ago.

Edit 2: Oh yea PM me for more info if needed.
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shurgen
Profile Joined October 2009
350 Posts
September 10 2010 05:30 GMT
#10
^ I only have 60GB a month! I've yet to go even close to the limit to be honest. There have been 3 months where I've hit the 75% point a day or 2 before a new month.

To the OP: That plan sounds awesome. Sometimes you have to do things like this to make people understand.
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
September 10 2010 05:34 GMT
#11
That's pretty unfortunate man =\

My suggestion is that since she's not paying for the internet (at least I don;t think?), that she doesn't have the liberty to be using up all the usage, so If your friend wants to pull the plug, then he has the right to do it. Also, make sure you talk to her about this issue, several times if it doesn't get through the first time.
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SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
September 10 2010 05:34 GMT
#12
On September 10 2010 14:30 shurgen wrote:
^ I only have 60GB a month! I've yet to go even close to the limit to be honest. There have been 3 months where I've hit the 75% point a day or 2 before a new month.

To the OP: That plan sounds awesome. Sometimes you have to do things like this to make people understand.


I can't get close to my limit because my net is so damn slow (I've got the 'portable internet' wireless BS, because for some reason I can't get a wired connection) lol.
i-bonjwa
Mada_Jiang
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Australia236 Posts
September 10 2010 07:58 GMT
#13
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THE_DOMINATOR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States309 Posts
September 10 2010 08:04 GMT
#14
wireshark for the win!
DOMINATION
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19228 Posts
September 10 2010 10:23 GMT
#15
DD-WRT is awesome. You can cap her usage by MAC address or set your own quotas or block her internet at certain times. I recommend it.
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TadH
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1846 Posts
September 10 2010 10:33 GMT
#16
I'm in Canada and my internet has no bandwidth limit and the speed is 25mbpsdown 5mbps upshaw Cable FTW
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
September 10 2010 11:20 GMT
#17
BM Australia internet imho.
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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
September 10 2010 11:41 GMT
#18
LOL. Mate I was in the same shoes as you a year prior. God damn fobs have no concept of download limit.

Anyway, you have a few options. I personally would explain and ban use of p2p or at least explain very carefully when and when it is not okay to have it on. You can't do IP level filtering because Chinese softwares like Xun Lei are designed to go around that.
And there are things like PPmate or PPstream which good luck trying to explain to them that they can't use that.

Okay here is what you do, this is how I solved the problem.

1. Search around and see if you are in TPG's exchange area. I just changed over to their full unlimited (NO DOWNLOAD LIMIT) internet for $75 dollars a month.
2. Don't waste your money on any fancy modem unless you are willing to pay a lot more. Chinese hackery eat those alive.
3. Explain to everyone the situation and dictate when and when it is not okay to have p2p going on, say that if it is not improved by certain date and date, the person either have to leave the house or get their own internet connection. Simple, effective and to the point. I did this when I was sharing a house with 4 fobs, they would go nuts until the limit is up, so I made one couple getting their own and its being okay ever since.
Rillanon.au
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
September 10 2010 11:47 GMT
#19
On September 10 2010 16:58 Mada_Jiang wrote:
Wow! Argentina has better net than us...
but why is net in Canada so expensive?

Thanks for the awesome input guys. I agree with all those suggestions on letting her know and just pulling the plug all together but it seems like the agreement was that her rent covered internet usage aswell? its just that she is not using her fair share.

And yeah I have also heard many times about guys who live together and just race to download as much as they can, humans disgust me sometimes i swear, why can't people just have some common sense and common decency.

Big thanks to Sechuan Panda

Tell me does this network monitor needs to be installed on her computer too? If not, will we be able to monitor her usage remotely and find out how much she has used over time if we were to leave the computer on? I have a Linksys WRT something.... I might trying that firmware aswell if network monitor dosn't do the job.


Look mate, don't go down that route. Installing monitor software on people's computer is offensive and you create an air of mistrust and that monitoring software is completely useless because you don't have 24/7 to make sure it works. Trust me, I know, I've done it before.

The best that you can do is get a cheap WRT54GL and flash the firmware so you can do traffic shaping per IP but that's a lot of work and easy for someone who knows how to get around the traffic shaping.

Don't even argue against the fob about internet being part of the bill or whatever, give her an ultimatum, if she get her own connection, deduct $50 dollars from her rent or leave.

It's not like she is going to sue you or anything, room mates rely more on each other's honestly and understanding than anything else.
Rillanon.au
vek
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia936 Posts
September 10 2010 11:53 GMT
#20
This may help, iinet just released new terrabyte ADSL2 plans: http://www.iinet.net.au/index.html

The only way to get the full terrabyte (500gb peak, 500 offpeak) is to bundle with phone but that's not a massive deal since you can do both with no contract.

I just recently switched to the 200/200 unbundled plan. In a house of ~5 people who contribute to heavy usage this is a lifesaver as we were on 70/90 previously and getting capped half way through the month
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