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sob3k

United States7572 Posts

June 28 2010 23:28 GMT

#41

On June 29 2010 07:27 XiaoJoyce- wrote:

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On June 29 2010 01:28 sob3k wrote:

On June 29 2010 00:16 lespostea wrote:

On June 28 2010 22:54 sob3k wrote:

Unless you are actually mathematician or other variety of quantum scientist....discussing these subjects is fun but ultimately entirely pointless. Please don't pretend you understand the math behind these fields unless you actually do.

I'm not really a professional mathematician or a physicist.

I'm pretty sure I understand more than most people do about just what math and physics are, and what some of the things are that the practicioners in these vast fields might do.

And I'm pretty sure I didn't read any posts written in this blog by anybody claiming or implying to 'understand' the math, or the physics. Except maybe yours.

The basic idea of MWI has been said again and again and again, over the course of human history, a gang of quantum physicists in Copenhagen did not just all of a sudden come up with the concept. They just got a little creeped out about it, because they were used to dealing in things that were physical in the sense of your table, which implied a certain inertness, a certain... well, certainty... which was being undermined by their very efforts to strengthen it, and relayed their confusion via this metaphor.

There are a lot of Asian philosophers and mystic texts with metaphysical conundrums and vistas that are startlingly parallel to the ones modern physicists tend to dream up while talking about the latest weird cosmology or bell's theorem etc etc.

I find if I actually read into these new theories and findings (as much as I am able), that their similarity with "Asian philosophers and mystic texts" is extremely superficial and usually overplayed by people attempting to make money by sounding scientific (Deepak Chopra...lol). In any case, it doesn't really matter if someone in the dark ages imagined something that appeared similar to the computer or string theory...its the actual inner workings of the more general idea that are actually useful science.

On my point about the futility of discussion, I'm not saying anyone here claims to understand the math...thats the problem, these theories in the actual scientific world are 105% math, there isn't anything else to them. Discussing them without it is just flat out not possible. All you can do is make up stuff that "sounds logical" and basically wank off....pretending that we can discuss the various merits of quantum theory vs m-theory or whatever is just pure BSing.

Noo, it is not what u think keke. This is a blog, for me a blog is something to write out feeling?

If you read again, u know I am just describe how I am currently feeling right now. And the rest of the comment didn't describe the theory in detail, they just write how they feel about the theory..

I feel hurt when u actually wrote this "All you can do is make up stuff that "sounds logical" "

I was more targeting my remarks at posts like this....

On June 28 2010 21:33 Qeet wrote:
i don't wan't to encourage anyone to commit suicide but:

you should be able to prove multiple timelines for yourself but not anyone else, if you try to kill yourself. if there are multiple timelines you will survive since "you" would be a multidimensional being with a 3dimension crosssection in our 4dimensional world. your multidimensional self will split every possible way like a tree with billions branches. so if you really want to die you have to die every way possible because every branch should have it's own(but still yours) consciousness.

^ pseudo-scientific egotistical garbage

lespostea

United States256 Posts

June 29 2010 00:09 GMT

#42

On June 28 2010 22:54 sob3k wrote:

I find if I actually read into these new theories and findings (as much as I am able), that their similarity with "Asian philosophers and mystic texts" is extremely superficial and usually overplayed by people attempting to make money by sounding scientific (Deepak Chopra...lol). In any case, it doesn't really matter if someone in the dark ages imagined something that appeared similar to the computer or string theory...its the actual inner workings of the more general idea that are actually useful science.

On my point about the futility of discussion, I'm not saying anyone here claims to understand the math...thats the problem, these theories in the actual scientific world are 105% math, there isn't anything else to them. Discussing them without it is just flat out not possible. All you can do is make up stuff that "sounds logical" and basically wank off....pretending that we can discuss the various merits of quantum theory vs m-theory or whatever is just pure BSing.

There's is more to it than that, but whatever... I thought it was a cute blog and don't want to muck it up with some arguing.

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