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sob3k
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The funny part is that my theory has just as much evidence and validity as the theories many of you have been peddling in this thread. Just because something sounds like it makes sense in an abstract way has nothing to do with whether or not its true when concerning subjects as far out of human science and complexity as the nature of the universe. Unless you are actually mathematician or other variety of quantum scientist....discussing these subjects is fun but ultimately entirely pointless. Please don't pretend you understand the math behind these fields unless you actually do. | ||
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Randomaccount#77123
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sob3k
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On June 28 2010 23:02 Barrin wrote: What I said is not really speculation, the only reason it is not provable is because "infinity" is really not possible to hold on the earth. However, IF the universe is infinite (which not everyone believes it is, and I don't either, just sayin'), then by PURE LOGIC and SHEER MATHEMATICAL PROBABILITY, then well. Yeah. That's the way it is. But you're probably right, that's probably not the way it is. 1. What evidence exist of the universe's size? 2. What makes you think that garden variety logic evolved on earth is adequate or correct when it comes to the inner workings of the universe? We have already discovered many quantum effects that simple do not make any intuitive sense. 3. You agree that your assertion is unprovable and based on baseless assumptions...sounds like speculation to me... | ||
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XiaoJoyce-
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On June 28 2010 21:48 YPang wrote: are you on weed? What is on weed? | ||
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Licmyobelisk
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ahahahaha oh my God! this poster right here hasn't been mind corrupted yet :D | ||
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lespostea
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On June 28 2010 22:54 sob3k wrote: Unless you are actually mathematician or other variety of quantum scientist....discussing these subjects is fun but ultimately entirely pointless. Please don't pretend you understand the math behind these fields unless you actually do. I'm not really a professional mathematician or a physicist. I'm pretty sure I understand more than most people do about just what math and physics are, and what some of the things are that the practicioners in these vast fields might do. And I'm pretty sure I didn't read any posts written in this blog by anybody claiming or implying to 'understand' the math, or the physics. Except maybe yours. The basic idea of MWI has been said again and again and again, over the course of human history, a gang of quantum physicists in Copenhagen did not just all of a sudden come up with the concept. They just got a little creeped out about it, because they were used to dealing in things that were physical in the sense of your table, which implied a certain inertness, a certain... well, certainty... which was being undermined by their very efforts to strengthen it, and relayed their confusion via this metaphor. There are a lot of Asian philosophers and mystic texts with metaphysical conundrums and vistas that are startlingly parallel to the ones modern physicists tend to dream up while talking about the latest weird cosmology or bell's theorem etc etc. | ||
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On June 29 2010 00:08 Licmyobelisk wrote: ahahahaha oh my God! this poster right here hasn't been mind corrupted yet :D English is not my native language, so sometimes there is something I might not have come across.. I thought asking might make me look stupid keke. But not asking, I feel curious. Hm, you should answer my question.. not ahahahaha me. | ||
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 Am I sound so crazy? Maybe recently I am lil bit on emo side... It is really not my fault, recent blog post is all about LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE. So when I read I just share my feeling.. maybe that why I got emotional. If I am on weeds, I am probably go gothic style, on drug, smoking cigar and screwing life keke.  | ||
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Djzapz
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sob3k
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On June 29 2010 00:16 lespostea wrote: I'm not really a professional mathematician or a physicist. I'm pretty sure I understand more than most people do about just what math and physics are, and what some of the things are that the practicioners in these vast fields might do. And I'm pretty sure I didn't read any posts written in this blog by anybody claiming or implying to 'understand' the math, or the physics. Except maybe yours. The basic idea of MWI has been said again and again and again, over the course of human history, a gang of quantum physicists in Copenhagen did not just all of a sudden come up with the concept. They just got a little creeped out about it, because they were used to dealing in things that were physical in the sense of your table, which implied a certain inertness, a certain... well, certainty... which was being undermined by their very efforts to strengthen it, and relayed their confusion via this metaphor. There are a lot of Asian philosophers and mystic texts with metaphysical conundrums and vistas that are startlingly parallel to the ones modern physicists tend to dream up while talking about the latest weird cosmology or bell's theorem etc etc. I find if I actually read into these new theories and findings (as much as I am able), that their similarity with "Asian philosophers and mystic texts" is extremely superficial and usually overplayed by people attempting to make money by sounding scientific (Deepak Chopra...lol). In any case, it doesn't really matter if someone in the dark ages imagined something that appeared similar to the computer or string theory...its the actual inner workings of the more general idea that are actually useful science. On my point about the futility of discussion, I'm not saying anyone here claims to understand the math...thats the problem, these theories in the actual scientific world are 105% math, there isn't anything else to them. Discussing them without it is just flat out not possible. All you can do is make up stuff that "sounds logical" and basically wank off....pretending that we can discuss the various merits of quantum theory vs m-theory or whatever is just pure BSing. | ||
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Randomaccount#77123
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sob3k
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On June 29 2010 01:42 Barrin wrote: + Show Spoiler + I find if I actually read into these new theories and findings (as much as I am able), that their similarity with "Asian philosophers and mystic texts" is extremely superficial and usually overplayed by people attempting to make money by sounding scientific (Deepak Chopra...lol). In any case, it doesn't really matter if someone in the dark ages imagined something that appeared similar to the computer or string theory...its the actual inner workings of the more general idea that are actually useful science. On my point about the futility of discussion, I'm not saying anyone here claims to understand the math...thats the problem, these theories in the actual scientific world are 105% math, there isn't anything else to them. Discussing them without it is just flat out not possible. All you can do is make up stuff that "sounds logical" and basically wank off....pretending that we can discuss the various merits of quantum theory vs m-theory or whatever is just pure BSing. Most of us in here already appreciate the futility of discussing such things. Perhaps you should appreciate the FUN in discussing such things. We acknowledge the fact that nothing we say in here holds any merit whatsoever, but we will still enjoy it. By all means enjoy yourselves! It just pisses me off when people act like they're experts in quantum physics/international diplomacy and macroeconomics because they read an article in Oprah magazine last week... | ||
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Randomaccount#77123
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YPang
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On June 29 2010 00:58 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Waaaa? Somebody asking me, are you on weeds? And from China too.. Am I sound so crazy? Maybe recently I am lil bit on emo side... It is really not my fault, recent blog post is all about LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE. So when I read I just share my feeling.. maybe that why I got emotional. If I am on weeds, I am probably go gothic style, on drug, smoking cigar and screwing life keke. lol, im actually in america, move to america and get get high without much consequences, it relieves all problems. | ||
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XiaoJoyce-
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On June 29 2010 01:28 sob3k wrote: I find if I actually read into these new theories and findings (as much as I am able), that their similarity with "Asian philosophers and mystic texts" is extremely superficial and usually overplayed by people attempting to make money by sounding scientific (Deepak Chopra...lol). In any case, it doesn't really matter if someone in the dark ages imagined something that appeared similar to the computer or string theory...its the actual inner workings of the more general idea that are actually useful science. On my point about the futility of discussion, I'm not saying anyone here claims to understand the math...thats the problem, these theories in the actual scientific world are 105% math, there isn't anything else to them. Discussing them without it is just flat out not possible. All you can do is make up stuff that "sounds logical" and basically wank off....pretending that we can discuss the various merits of quantum theory vs m-theory or whatever is just pure BSing. Noo, it is not what u think keke. This is a blog, for me a blog is something to write out feeling? If you read again, u know I am just describe how I am currently feeling right now. And the rest of the comment didn't describe the theory in detail, they just write how they feel about the theory.. I feel hurt when u actually wrote this "All you can do is make up stuff that "sounds logical" " | ||
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