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On March 31 2010 00:58 TheosEx wrote:Thanks for the input on the HDD. I guess I won't be getting a Heatsink at this point since I do not plan OCing, unless... What is the difference between the Core i3 and the Phenom X4 as Pajke suggested? It is cheaper, but will it underperform unless overclocked (in which case, I will go ahead and do it if it's better)? What are the advantages/disadvantages of this? Will the Phenom X4 run into the same issues as the Core 2's with becoming obselete on motherboards as someone suggested? Right now, you all have kind of convinced me to go the Phenom X4 route, but I am getting curious on the Core i3 route and would like to know how this is going to affect me.
i3 runs more efficiently and with much, much less heat. people are OC'ing the 530 to 4GHz on the stock intel cooler which is absolutely ridiculous. clock for clock the i3 performs better than the X4s except in a couple 3d / video rendering apps where physical cores > HT but even in some video encoding apps an i3 at 4GHz will outdo an X4 at 4GHz.
that said, AMD platforms seem to be promising longer-term support than intel. also, at stock speeds the i3 will perform worse than the X4 if not only because the i3's do not match the X4 in terms of pricing.
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Didn't you say you wanted to get OS X and Windows. If you do don't get an AMD chip (as much as i love them)
If your definitely after a dual core get an i3
Also, i didn't think i was going to OC either but i did and I'm glad i accidently bought an aftermarket HSF.
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The reason I've heard people mention when they say stay away from large HDD's is that if a 1.5 TB one stops working you've got a lot of data lost, whereas it's less (obviously) if a 750 GB one crash. With that said I've never had problems with my harddrives, I've never ever had one crash. I guess I should consider myself lucky. 
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E8400 ( outdated socket )
Nvidia card ( not competitive )
Ati + Am3 or LGA 1156 please
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Seriously.
5770 + phenom 955Be or i5-750.
168$ for a E8500 when the i5-750 is only 30$ more expensive ?
You gotta be kidding.
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Please don't buy a GTX 260 at 225$ when you can get a Radeon 5770 for 150$ and it has the same performances.
For 225$ you can get a 5830 which is way better.
PLEASE.
I gonna kill another kitten pro zerg player otherwise.
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Stay the fuck away from ATi if you want to run Linux. Not sure about OS X since Apple is happily plugging in ATi cards.
Stay the fuck away.
AMD will not run happily on Mac OS X either. It's easy to say "go AMD and ATi" and just look at price/performance, but when it comes to driver compatibility with non-Microsoft OS, AMD/ATi is still a dead fish in the water.
That said, if you want better performance, then you can go for an AM3/ATi setup (but that is only if you plan on going Windows only).
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Get a 5850 for that money.
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yeah
and just make $90 appear out of nowhere
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On March 31 2010 07:51 Thrill wrote:
Get a 5850 for that money.
You won't get a 5850 for 225$.
It starts at 300$ on Newegg.
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On March 31 2010 00:52 infinity21 wrote:
I'm not an expert in this area but here are some thoughts:
-Why buy two 500 GB HDs when you can get a 2nd 1.5 TB one for half the price?
-Why buy such a powerful power supply when you're not doing SLI? I'm sure you could save a bit of money here
-Why get an outdated processor? The i3/i5 can be had for just a fraction more.
-Why spend money on an aftermarket CPU cooler? Are you planning on OCing?
I'm just going to point this out about the HDD:
The two 500GB HDDs have a higher 7200 RPM and will be faster in retrieving/writing/reading data vs the 5400 RPM which will probably be excruciatingly slow at times !
HDDs aren't just about storage!
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On March 31 2010 07:57 FragKrag wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2010 00:52 infinity21 wrote:
I'm not an expert in this area but here are some thoughts:
-Why buy two 500 GB HDs when you can get a 2nd 1.5 TB one for half the price?
-Why buy such a powerful power supply when you're not doing SLI? I'm sure you could save a bit of money here
-Why get an outdated processor? The i3/i5 can be had for just a fraction more.
-Why spend money on an aftermarket CPU cooler? Are you planning on OCing? I'm just going to point this out about the HDD: The two 500GB HDDs have a higher 7200 RPM and will be faster in retrieving/writing/reading data vs the 5400 RPM which will probably be excruciatingly slow at times ! HDDs aren't just about storage!
But the HDD he listed is 7200 RPM plus iirc the higher storage space improves data read/write time because of the higher compression or something like that (no?)
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oh woops not sure how I made that mistake :<
Well in that case, it depends on the HDD itself. Just because the hard drive is bigger does not mean it has higher data density! A 500GB Samsung F3 Spinpoint has higher data density than a Seagate 7200.11 1TB drive because the Samsung is only on 1 platter while the Seagate is on 3 or 4 (not sure)
The 7200.12 drives are also faster than the 7200.11 drives in general
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I don't think he said anything about data density, I thought his argument was simply on a gb/$ basis that the 1.5 tb was much more economical
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On March 31 2010 09:11 FragKrag wrote:
oh woops not sure how I made that mistake :<
Well in that case, it depends on the HDD itself. Just because the hard drive is bigger does not mean it has higher data density! A 500GB Samsung F3 Spinpoint has higher data density than a Seagate 7200.11 1TB drive because the Samsung is only on 1 platter while the Seagate is on 3 or 4 (not sure)
The 7200.12 drives are also faster than the 7200.11 drives in general
ahh I see
Good to know
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anyways the 7200.11 Seagates were notorious for failing.
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Seriously don't suggest AMD chips. Mac OS X will pretty much not run on an AMD chip.
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