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RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
March 31 2010 23:20 GMT
#61
With a 1000$ budget definitely go for an i5 or i7 if you want to perform well in the future. So what kragfrag said. Right now sli or crossfire are somewhat useless because you will simply buy another powerful graphic card that will outperform every single aspect when the price will drop.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
March 31 2010 23:28 GMT
#62
Crossfire is good because it isn't useless! 2x 4850 in crossfire is probably one of the most cost efficient setups out there at the moment. 2x 5770 in crossfire perform above the level of the 5850 (though crossfire 5770 is only relevant when the 5850 is more expensive than the two 5770s put together).
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
April 01 2010 00:06 GMT
#63
Oh my bad then, i swear i saw 5850 costing like 200E whereas for the 5770 it was something like 125E...
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-01 00:13:48
April 01 2010 00:12 GMT
#64
On April 01 2010 08:28 FragKrag wrote:
Crossfire is good because it isn't useless! 2x 4850 in crossfire is probably one of the most cost efficient setups out there at the moment. 2x 5770 in crossfire perform above the level of the 5850 (though crossfire 5770 is only relevant when the 5850 is more expensive than the two 5770s put together).

Yeah crossfire isn't as great as nvidia's sli scaling but def isn't useless.

Well you also take into the cost of the psu and motherboard that must support it.
AyeH
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States534 Posts
April 01 2010 00:19 GMT
#65
On March 30 2010 23:59 FragKrag wrote:
Don't like it. You splurged on a lot of useless stuff like that Arctic Silver, and those seagate hard drives.

1. The 7200.11 Seagate Barracudas are notorious for being horrible. Stay away at all costs.
2. The 7200.12 Seagate Barracudas have long access times. RAID 0 won't solve that, so you should probably just go for a single Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB or Caviar Blue/Black 640GB. RAID 0 is very stupid with low cost hdds anyways.
3. You're buying into a dead socket. Do not get LGA 775. If you really want Intel, go LGA 1156 H55
Motherboard: EVGA $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188063
CPU: Intel i3 530 $119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115222
RAM: Corsair XMS DDR3 2x2GB: $114.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145260
4. $28 is a bit steep for that cooler. It doesn't really perform very well.
Try the Scythe Mugen at $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185142
or the Cooler Master Hyper 212 at $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
That is if you want to overclock. If you don't want to overclock, I don't know why you want to blow off money on the after market HSFs.

The i3 is an amazing overclocker. That baby can get to amazingly high GHz with stock cooling.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2921/5


Artic silver is actually rated one of THE best thermal compound and would not be a waste since it is only a couple of bucks. If he plans to overclock, it would be a worthwhile investment as well.

Also, to the OP. If you have no experience with OCing, buy a PSU that gives your more leverage so that even when you up your voltages, you don't experience lock ups in game when your CPU and GPU is sucking all the power. Do some more research on the REVIEWS and FEEDBACK of the customers of these products and then make your decision. Don't rush it.
Is it in you?
TheosEx
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States894 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-01 00:21:38
April 01 2010 00:20 GMT
#66
Hrmm... that Core i7 920 is almost half-price.

It just so happens that I live about an 1 hour from a MicroCenter. I live in TN, and my ex-gf lives in Marietta, GA. I was going to have my Newegg order shipped there since I get charged taxes in TN. Maybe I could order all of my Newegg parts and just get the CPU while I'm there?

What would be a good motherboard to pair up with this thing? And will all the other parts I picked on the previous post work well with it?

Will it be worth the trouble?

Thoughts?
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-01 00:30:45
April 01 2010 00:28 GMT
#67
Arctic silver is a huge waste since most thermal compounds differ by around 1 or 2C.

The i7 920 is an awesome core, but the problem is that you will have to buy an expensive motherboard ($180 for the low end), along with higher power consumption.

The plus side is that it also allows you to use dual X16 PCIe 2.0 slots for CrossFire/SLI performance. It also overclocks very well on stock voltages. All of your parts would work with the i7 920 except the motherboard. If you get an i7 920 and don't overclock it, it's a wasted effort since the i5 750 will perform better/equal in most games at the moment.

Gigabyte UD3R $210
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423

EVGA $230 ($30 Mail in Rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188049

Edit: It's really not worth it to invest in a X58 LGA 1366 setup unless you really want to CrossFire/SLi. While the i7 920 at $170 is a steal, the cost of the motherboard itself already erases any benefit :p
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
TheosEx
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States894 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-01 01:03:31
April 01 2010 00:59 GMT
#68
Won't a more expensive mother board allow me more room for upgradeability in the future? Or will this not be a factor? Or will the performance gained from i5 to i7 not even be noticeable unless I'm doing some crazy stuff (which I won't).
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-01 01:18:08
April 01 2010 01:15 GMT
#69
It won't be noticeable unless you are going to be doing encoding (even then it's not huge). The motherboard will allow for more upgradeability in the future, but only in CPU (they are already expensive enough), Crossfire/SLI (which requires a more powerful PSU).

I'm really against X58 unless you are going to do some heavy CPU/Memory intensive work that will justify the triple channel memory and the high power usage of the CPU, or if you are going to upgrade into a high-power SLI/Crossfire setup that will utilize the x16 bandwidth.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
TheosEx
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States894 Posts
April 01 2010 01:25 GMT
#70
Nah, at this point, the most performance-drawing activity I will be doing is playing SC2 probably. I still play CS for goodness sake :-p

Thanks for the help. I guess I am now almost 99% sure what I will be getting. I'll just do some final price checks and minor preference look-ups (i.e. comparing a couple of cases I like).

THANKS FOR THE HELP ALL
Floydian
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom374 Posts
April 01 2010 01:51 GMT
#71
On April 01 2010 08:08 FragKrag wrote:
I just picked up an i7 860 for $200 from Microcenter :3

Wtf! The price of an 860 here is more then that in POUNDS Something like $350 after conversion.
WOE IS ME
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
April 01 2010 02:09 GMT
#72
microcenter is indeed awesome, got my i5 for $150 in January
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
April 01 2010 18:07 GMT
#73
IF you're interested in buying, intel ssd for $99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?nm_mc=AFC-SlickDeals&cm_mmc=AFC-SlickDeals-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA&Item=N82E16820167025&Tpk=N82E16820167025
KingofHearts
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Japan562 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-01 18:37:57
April 01 2010 18:36 GMT
#74
get crosshair 3 formula motherboard, get ati 5770 , get phenom 2 quad core 955 or 965 GG!!
and yeah dont forget a 750-800 watt power supply .
moshi moshi~
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-01 22:28:39
April 01 2010 22:28 GMT
#75
Crosshair 3 and the ASUS RoG boards in general are all gimmicks. A 5770 and Phenom II will run on a 500W PSU. Why waste money
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Jlab
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States217 Posts
April 01 2010 23:04 GMT
#76
I have a 5770 and an Athlon II (OC'd to 3.25 GHz) and i haven't had a problem on my 550W PSU.
buickskylark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada664 Posts
April 02 2010 07:06 GMT
#77
On March 31 2010 23:38 TheosEx wrote:

2. Since this computer will be on all the time, I am seriously worried about my electricity bill.



Sorry to interrupt, but does anyone know what the electrical cost is for citizens of the US/Canada? Let's say the computer is on about 6 hours a day.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-02 07:20:56
April 02 2010 07:18 GMT
#78
It depends on the state. :/

I believe here in CA, we have one of the highest electricity costs.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
April 02 2010 08:38 GMT
#79
On April 02 2010 03:07 KOFgokuon wrote:
IF you're interested in buying, intel ssd for $99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?nm_mc=AFC-SlickDeals&cm_mmc=AFC-SlickDeals-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA&Item=N82E16820167025&Tpk=N82E16820167025

such a waste good random read times but i could just raid 2 500gb 7200.12 and get better read and write times by far esp under write times dealing with sequential writes ie recording things making it as good as a 300 dollar ssd - the power and silence but a + in storage

imo it's top of the line ssd or not at all unless you're going for a silent system.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
April 02 2010 08:43 GMT
#80
On April 02 2010 16:06 buickskylark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2010 23:38 TheosEx wrote:

2. Since this computer will be on all the time, I am seriously worried about my electricity bill.



Sorry to interrupt, but does anyone know what the electrical cost is for citizens of the US/Canada? Let's say the computer is on about 6 hours a day.

Depends where you live and how much the computer is under load how much draw your computer needs and the efficiency of the psu, in the end it's likely to only be about an extra 50-200 dollars to your electricity bill at the end of the year.
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