Whoa man, chill out a bit. Not sure why you're getting in my face about this.

The OP asked a question, I answered it with what I know. More importantly, I referred him to someone who would know better - a dietitian.

AwarE--

United States70 Posts

February 15 2010 20:06 GMT

#62

forget it, don't take creatine it's the devil.

not worth it

Peeano

Netherlands5630 Posts

February 15 2010 20:07 GMT

#63

On February 15 2010 17:01 Amnesia wrote:
build muscle naturally

igotmyown

United States4291 Posts

February 15 2010 20:15 GMT

#64

On February 16 2010 05:03 AwarE-- wrote:
A few reports suggest that the supplement creatine could, at times, cause heart arrhythmias.18

Posted on a site dedicated to herbal natural products.

...
...

seriously?

link to the actual study or quiet.

This isn't a referendum on your existence or your self-esteem; I'm not sure why you're taking it so personally. It's not like you're selling the stuff or are an advocate for the creatine industry.

After re-reading my own post, it seems there's a source from a publication called Pharmacology. Second, someone presents an individual case, and you're the one who rejected it with some made up common knowledge argument. If you think anyone who reads this is going to accept your conclusions just because, then feel free not to post your own sources.

prodiG

Canada2016 Posts

February 15 2010 20:19 GMT

#65

BTW OP
the internet is a terrible place to ask questions like this because you'll get a bunch of beefcake testosterone-fueled nerds who think they know everything talking like their opinions are facts, and get super butthurt when someone disagrees with them. Do your research, ask some physical trainers, doctor, etc

Foucault

Sweden2826 Posts

February 15 2010 21:16 GMT

#66

Creatine is very safe unless you have kidney issues. I read that 1/3 of english soccer players use creatine regularly. Creatine is a naturally occurring substance in your body and therefore it's legal. You could get the same quantities that you get from a supplement if you were to eat like 10 lbs of meat daily.

Creatine doesn't do THAT much after all but can definately help you get stronger at certain points. It helps you get a couple of extra reps in etc. It also binds water so it can give you a little moonface, but not really noticeable.

I've used creatine myself and it helps a little. It's one of the best, legal supplements if you want to add on muscle. At least in Sweden it can be bought everywhere; gym, stores, webshops etc. Like people have pointed out though, there's no research on creatine use over a longer time. Then again I don't really see a point in using creatine for a long period of time without breaks or stopping completely. Use it as a tool to soldier through plateus in weight lifting. I don't recommend it for running etc because it adds some lbs of water to your body weight.

Creatine has nothing to do with steroids. At all. The mechanisms are as different as can be.

sassy

240 Posts

February 15 2010 21:58 GMT

#67

aware--, you sound like a complete retard, calm your inner nerd please

theres man people posting on different forums about having palpitations/racing heartbeat from using creatine

what youve said could be partly true, its not alwas necessarily creatine, but suggesting caffeine to cause this is pretty dumb. Obviously those people would already know if caffeine causes any discomfort

i ran track and did muay thai which was really intense, it isnt a "weak heart"( w/e that means rofl)

even trainers have heard of this problem so stop spewing please. Ive used protein with no creatine and then switched to something else( wasnt just creatine difference but thats what stuck out on the list of ingredients)

bottom line the OP will be using one of the widely available products which probably isnt "pure creatine"

anyone who thinks you can boost your form like that without any consequences is a fool. Nothing comes out of nowhere, but i agree, theres no reason not to try it if ure completely healthy and want that improvement right away

Epicfailguy

Norway893 Posts

February 15 2010 22:04 GMT

#68

You know when you're done working out and you're pumped and you wish you looked
like that?
That's pretty much how your mucles will look un-pumped, on creatine. They will gain a lot of size, and it will make you feel good and motivated to keep working out, at least it made me really happy :p

Jonoman92

United States9110 Posts

February 15 2010 22:51 GMT

#69

God dammit. Reading through this thread made me first want to use creatine, then it made me think creatine is bad, and now I'm back towards leaning to wanting to use it.

I work out regularly on a schedule and use whey protein but I am building almost no mass. I try to take in enough calories as well but I really should concentrate on my diet first before looking for any other supplementation.

Kinda hard though when you don't have a kitchen and are reliant upon dorm cafeteria food.

daz

Canada643 Posts

February 15 2010 23:57 GMT

#70

On February 16 2010 02:14 sassy wrote:

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read above

or google something

your life must be so easy lawl

I was in same position as op before (considering whether or not to take creatine). Instead of asking for advice on a brood war website, I spent several hours researching it myself. The previous post was a bit of an oversimplification but still reflects the results of my own research.

igotmyown

United States4291 Posts

February 16 2010 02:33 GMT

#71

On February 16 2010 07:51 Jonoman92 wrote:
God dammit. Reading through this thread made me first want to use creatine, then it made me think creatine is bad, and now I'm back towards leaning to wanting to use it.

I work out regularly on a schedule and use whey protein but I am building almost no mass. I try to take in enough calories as well but I really should concentrate on my diet first before looking for any other supplementation.

Kinda hard though when you don't have a kitchen and are reliant upon dorm cafeteria food.

I was never under the impression that creatine is used to build mass and look nicer. It allows you to work out harder and longer, and recover faster. It might be able to help you indirectly, but it's not the magic bullet that people are looking for. If your reasoning is, I'm working out and I'm not big, if I take creatine and work out will I get huge, it's probably not going to work out well.

I'm not qualified to talk about body building, but I'm sure it will be more helpful than creatine. When I've gained mass its from working out longer (went from 45 minutes to 90), more regularly (6 days a week, no skipping), and having better workouts.

JFKWT

Singapore1442 Posts

February 16 2010 09:37 GMT

#72

On February 16 2010 05:07 s.Q.uelched wrote:

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I heard there are risks to the kidney re: creatine..