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Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 10:28:26
December 28 2009 03:57 GMT
#1


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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 04:03:00
December 28 2009 04:02 GMT
#2
-_- Girls. I'm sorry for you, but I guess you'll get over it.
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Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
December 28 2009 04:07 GMT
#3
1/5 for effort.

sounds like she was jsut being friendly lol.
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iHATEken
Profile Joined December 2009
Maldives6 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 04:16:18
December 28 2009 04:09 GMT
#4
Idk man, she seems really stupid. You didn't do anything wrong she is just the friendly type and is very naive

On December 28 2009 13:12 Xxio wrote:
Some girls just like to play mind games :S

they would make good pro gamers eh?
Damn.. been a long time
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
December 28 2009 04:12 GMT
#5
Some girls just like to play mind games :S
KTY
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6771 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 04:16:34
December 28 2009 04:15 GMT
#6
Hahah that vid

And yes, some bitches can fuck your mind badly. I hate that.
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lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
December 28 2009 04:15 GMT
#7
On December 28 2009 13:07 Butigroove wrote:
1/5 for effort.

sounds like she was jsut being friendly lol.


Nah man, you didn't get mind fucked by her, you got mind fucked by your hormones. It's just another case of a sociable girl who tried to be nice and friendly and its misinterpreted as romantic interest.

No hard feelings, happens to the best of us.
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theobsessed1
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States576 Posts
December 28 2009 04:16 GMT
#8
On December 28 2009 13:07 Butigroove wrote:
1/5 for effort.

sounds like she was jsut being friendly lol.

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ToyotaDemon
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia150 Posts
December 28 2009 04:17 GMT
#9
This is not really a "mind-fuck" it is just you (a simple male engulfed in testosterone) unconsciously looking for "signs" in a female that you are interested in.

Don't worry, every guy does it/has done it. Just gotta learn from this experience and make your intentions clear next time, etc xP
rawr
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
December 28 2009 04:18 GMT
#10
+ Show Spoiler [just in case] +
On December 28 2009 12:57 resonance wrote:
I gotta blog this. This is so frigging ridiculous.

Ok so I started work at a clothing store about 3 months ago or so. Everything is all good, I am liking my job, I am liking my co-workers, etc.. Anyway, there is a co-worker who is a year younger than me and pretty decent looking. We talked a lot at work and she seemed very into me, and I was interested in her as well. We talked for a while and I got very good indicators of interest from her. I was thinking about asking her to do something, however I did not want to date anybody from work simply to avoid possible problems (I really want to keep this job).

Anyway, so that lasted for a while. Couldn't really ask to do something, so I kinda left it. We still chatted a fair bit at work but w/e.

She told me a while ago that she is starting school in January, and might be leaving work. I'm thinking that's a great opportunity to ask her to do something.

At the beginning of December she tells me that she is quitting work by the end of December. I'm thinking that's great I'll ask her out when she quits.

Now a little info about her. Firstly she is asian. Being caucasian, I tend to find most asian girls to act very different from white girls. The way they interact and what they talk about, etc.. Doesn't bother me, I live in Vancouver which is so ridiculously asian it's not even funny. I would say it's about 70% asian in Vancouver and 30% the rest. Anyway, secondly, she ishardcore Christian. So ridiculously christian it's not even funny. I am really not attracted to that at all as I switch back and forth from being agnostic to atheist (but I was catholic when I was much younger). But hell you know what, why should that be a reason to not ask her out. I need some experience, why the hell not. She is into me, why the hell not.

So we had a work party and she came and she was quiet as hell the whole time. I thought it was kinda peculiar but w/e, nobody really talked much at the work party because nobody wanted to say something stupid and be possibly fired/in trouble/etc.. This was around the 22nd.

So after that she texts me asking me something about work, and I replied. We sent a couple texts and we start text chatting and I ask her what she has planned for the break.

She replies:

"haha well i have 3 more
days of work! and then
next week i just chill =
we shud hang out! Wat's
up for ur break?"

I'm thinking, wow ok she must be pretty damn into me to ask ME out, I don't know many girls who ask guys out unless they are REALLY into the guys.

So I am like wow dope. I say ok let's do it. I even mention that I was about to ask her to do something but she beat me to it.

She responds:

"HAHA xD ya for sure !
Wat do u have in mind?"

I tell her I will think of something and let her know in a couple days. She says great.

Now at this point I'm thinking, this is pretty dope. I got a girl who is really interested in me, and I hardly did anything to get to that point. Life is also good as well being on break and couple fun things going on and of course being able to play sc.

I call her a couple days later, and recommend ice skating. Firstly I am really not into movies, I think it totally screams boring guy. Secondly, ice skating would make certain the mood the clear, this wasn't just being friends. She sounded very nervous and was like "sure ok!". Seemed good. Nervousness is great. Gotta love that awkwardness period in between friends and a potential relationship.

So I go to work again and this was the last day she was working and we chat a bit. However, I notice she really isn't into the convos. She loses interest fast, one time she even interrupted me to talk to somebody else. I was thinking what the hell, that's a bit rude. She is talking to other people more than me, etc.. I'm not too worried though, I blame it on that awkwardness period. Don't blame her, she is kinda shy anyway (funny cuz she asked me out!).

So I'm starting to be concerned here whether or not she meant to go as friends or a potential relationship.

I browse her facebook that night and notice she is going to the movies with a co-worker friend of mine my age! I'm like...what the fuck? Wtf is going on. She is confusing me the hell out of me.

So I call her and she doesn't pick up. I send a text saying I need to talk to you something is bothering me. She replies

"kk sry, was eating dinner
with friends. Ill call u
soon!"

I am thinking ok. She tells me later that night that she won't be home till late so won't be able to call. Ok. I go play sc. While I am playing sc she goes on msn and msgs me saying "yoooo" "you wanted to chat??", but I was playing so I didn't get the msg till she was offline. I sent a fb message saying I will call her tomorrow.

Tomorrow, which was today, I called her up after work.

"hey do you have a few minutes to talk?"

she replies

"um sure okkayy"

I say,

"k I'm going to be really honest here and I want you to do the same"

"okayy.."

She sounds nervous, as if I am about to propose to her or something.

"I am really confused right now and...am getting really mixed........feelings from you. What were your intentions when you asked me to do something? Do you know what I mean?

-nice awkward pause-

"oh..justt friendss"

are you effing kidding me...

I explain my side of the story. She contributes almost nothing to the conversation.

I ask at the end of another pause:

"so uh...is there anything you wanted to say?"

"umm...sorryyy"

Honestly, I knew there was no relationship there, but I just did it cuz I figured why not.

"mkkk well, im happy we cleared this up"

blah blah blah..

What the fuck. Who does that seriously. At least I saved myself time and didn't bother going skating.

Edit:

Reminds me of this video




tbh if you really thought she was super into you and that she was asking you out... you must be kinda self-centered. Maybe she sent out different vibes, but I really can't see how you're so disappointed. It didn't strike me that she wanted to start a relationship or anything.
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BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
December 28 2009 04:21 GMT
#11
Uh... yea, reading what she said it really does seem like just regular conversation (friend-to-friend).
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
December 28 2009 04:21 GMT
#12
That's kind of shitty. A girl doesn't agree to go ice skating with one guy as just friends, especially if you guys aren't really friends (just coworkers).

Just be glad she is quitting so you don't have to see her around anymore. Take it as a learning experience. Girls are mostly oblivious when it comes to being a friend or relationship.
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 04:24:51
December 28 2009 04:23 GMT
#13
On December 28 2009 13:18 mikeymoo wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [just in case] +
On December 28 2009 12:57 resonance wrote:
I gotta blog this. This is so frigging ridiculous.

Ok so I started work at a clothing store about 3 months ago or so. Everything is all good, I am liking my job, I am liking my co-workers, etc.. Anyway, there is a co-worker who is a year younger than me and pretty decent looking. We talked a lot at work and she seemed very into me, and I was interested in her as well. We talked for a while and I got very good indicators of interest from her. I was thinking about asking her to do something, however I did not want to date anybody from work simply to avoid possible problems (I really want to keep this job).

Anyway, so that lasted for a while. Couldn't really ask to do something, so I kinda left it. We still chatted a fair bit at work but w/e.

She told me a while ago that she is starting school in January, and might be leaving work. I'm thinking that's a great opportunity to ask her to do something.

At the beginning of December she tells me that she is quitting work by the end of December. I'm thinking that's great I'll ask her out when she quits.

Now a little info about her. Firstly she is asian. Being caucasian, I tend to find most asian girls to act very different from white girls. The way they interact and what they talk about, etc.. Doesn't bother me, I live in Vancouver which is so ridiculously asian it's not even funny. I would say it's about 70% asian in Vancouver and 30% the rest. Anyway, secondly, she ishardcore Christian. So ridiculously christian it's not even funny. I am really not attracted to that at all as I switch back and forth from being agnostic to atheist (but I was catholic when I was much younger). But hell you know what, why should that be a reason to not ask her out. I need some experience, why the hell not. She is into me, why the hell not.

So we had a work party and she came and she was quiet as hell the whole time. I thought it was kinda peculiar but w/e, nobody really talked much at the work party because nobody wanted to say something stupid and be possibly fired/in trouble/etc.. This was around the 22nd.

So after that she texts me asking me something about work, and I replied. We sent a couple texts and we start text chatting and I ask her what she has planned for the break.

She replies:

"haha well i have 3 more
days of work! and then
next week i just chill =
we shud hang out! Wat's
up for ur break?"

I'm thinking, wow ok she must be pretty damn into me to ask ME out, I don't know many girls who ask guys out unless they are REALLY into the guys.

So I am like wow dope. I say ok let's do it. I even mention that I was about to ask her to do something but she beat me to it.

She responds:

"HAHA xD ya for sure !
Wat do u have in mind?"

I tell her I will think of something and let her know in a couple days. She says great.

Now at this point I'm thinking, this is pretty dope. I got a girl who is really interested in me, and I hardly did anything to get to that point. Life is also good as well being on break and couple fun things going on and of course being able to play sc.

I call her a couple days later, and recommend ice skating. Firstly I am really not into movies, I think it totally screams boring guy. Secondly, ice skating would make certain the mood the clear, this wasn't just being friends. She sounded very nervous and was like "sure ok!". Seemed good. Nervousness is great. Gotta love that awkwardness period in between friends and a potential relationship.

So I go to work again and this was the last day she was working and we chat a bit. However, I notice she really isn't into the convos. She loses interest fast, one time she even interrupted me to talk to somebody else. I was thinking what the hell, that's a bit rude. She is talking to other people more than me, etc.. I'm not too worried though, I blame it on that awkwardness period. Don't blame her, she is kinda shy anyway (funny cuz she asked me out!).

So I'm starting to be concerned here whether or not she meant to go as friends or a potential relationship.

I browse her facebook that night and notice she is going to the movies with a co-worker friend of mine my age! I'm like...what the fuck? Wtf is going on. She is confusing me the hell out of me.

So I call her and she doesn't pick up. I send a text saying I need to talk to you something is bothering me. She replies

"kk sry, was eating dinner
with friends. Ill call u
soon!"

I am thinking ok. She tells me later that night that she won't be home till late so won't be able to call. Ok. I go play sc. While I am playing sc she goes on msn and msgs me saying "yoooo" "you wanted to chat??", but I was playing so I didn't get the msg till she was offline. I sent a fb message saying I will call her tomorrow.

Tomorrow, which was today, I called her up after work.

"hey do you have a few minutes to talk?"

she replies

"um sure okkayy"

I say,

"k I'm going to be really honest here and I want you to do the same"

"okayy.."

She sounds nervous, as if I am about to propose to her or something.

"I am really confused right now and...am getting really mixed........feelings from you. What were your intentions when you asked me to do something? Do you know what I mean?

-nice awkward pause-

"oh..justt friendss"

are you effing kidding me...

I explain my side of the story. She contributes almost nothing to the conversation.

I ask at the end of another pause:

"so uh...is there anything you wanted to say?"

"umm...sorryyy"

Honestly, I knew there was no relationship there, but I just did it cuz I figured why not.

"mkkk well, im happy we cleared this up"

blah blah blah..

What the fuck. Who does that seriously. At least I saved myself time and didn't bother going skating.

Edit:

Reminds me of this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGKtO97mBuw



tbh if you really thought she was super into you and that she was asking you out... you must be kinda self-centered. Maybe she sent out different vibes, but I really can't see how you're so disappointed. It didn't strike me that she wanted to start a relationship or anything.


I'm kinda relieved about it tbh, I can't say I'm exactly disappointed cuz I knew it was going no where. Reading the story over it seems sorta clear. Just a pain in the ass to deal with.

On December 28 2009 13:21 BanZu wrote:
Uh... yea, reading what she said it really does seem like just regular conversation (friend-to-friend).

On December 28 2009 13:21 Snet wrote:
That's kind of shitty. A girl doesn't agree to go ice skating with one guy as just friends, especially if you guys aren't really friends (just coworkers).

Just be glad she is quitting so you don't have to see her around anymore. Take it as a learning experience. Girls are mostly oblivious when it comes to being a friend or relationship.


Thanks.
NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
December 28 2009 04:25 GMT
#14
Sounds like she was into you but then changed her mind. Maybe she found that she wasn't that into your personality and saw more potential in this other coworker of hers.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 04:39:58
December 28 2009 04:37 GMT
#15
Meh it's Not normal to feel awkward when u move from one step to another , and she might of wanted something more spontaneous. Anyways gl
ibelieve it's only awkward like the way you described in movies lol xD
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BrodiaQ
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States892 Posts
December 28 2009 04:40 GMT
#16
There is a difference between someone asking you to hang out and asking you out. Sounds like she was just being friendly and you were looking for something that wasn't there. Really no mind fuck here.
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jeddus
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States832 Posts
December 28 2009 04:41 GMT
#17
This blog was like a dagger in the heart, dagger in the heart man.

It brought me back 10 years, I knew the end from the beginning.

I even thought ice skating was a good call, much better than the movies.

My personal opinion is she WAS interested, got fickle, then flipped it around.

Tis the way of the wimmin.

And for those who might question me:
Been married three years now, we dated a long time, and before that I went through plenty of mind boggling relationships, including the one I am in for the rest of my life now.

"..just friends."

Shish!

Dagger in the heart.
sex appeal
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
December 28 2009 04:41 GMT
#18
Like my friend once said: Even after sex, it's not love yet!

So ya...
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ddengster
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore129 Posts
December 28 2009 04:49 GMT
#19
Asian christians are so friendly(at least those whom I've met), they confuse you sometimes.
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NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
December 28 2009 04:52 GMT
#20
On December 28 2009 13:41 jeddus wrote:
This blog was like a dagger in the heart, dagger in the heart man.

It brought me back 10 years, I knew the end from the beginning.

I even thought ice skating was a good call, much better than the movies.

My personal opinion is she WAS interested, got fickle, then flipped it around.

Tis the way of the wimmin.

And for those who might question me:
Been married three years now, we dated a long time, and before that I went through plenty of mind boggling relationships, including the one I am in for the rest of my life now.

"..just friends."

Shish!

Dagger in the heart.


lol this made me chuckle
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
December 28 2009 05:02 GMT
#21
I hope some of the females on tl.net are reading this blog and spreading the word to other females. Dagger in the heart.
Do you really want chat rooms?
Arhkangel
Profile Joined August 2007
Argentina769 Posts
December 28 2009 05:12 GMT
#22
Mike why are you quoting every single blog?
Part Time Ninja
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
December 28 2009 05:13 GMT
#23
too many people edit out their blogs. he's just being cautious so people can still be made fun of.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
monkxly
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada241 Posts
December 28 2009 05:17 GMT
#24
i'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet

bro don't worry about one girl, it really doesn't matter

u gotta skate
get a spire
.gypsy
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada689 Posts
December 28 2009 05:21 GMT
#25
mhmm, cool story brah
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Methos
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States206 Posts
December 28 2009 05:32 GMT
#26
you probably liked her a lot so when she asked to do something you jumped the gun/got too excited and started to make assumptions. Happens to all of us though. Sorry to hear the story.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
December 28 2009 05:33 GMT
#27
On December 28 2009 14:17 monkxly wrote:
i'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet

bro don't worry about one girl, it really doesn't matter

u gotta skate


i'm surprised that people keep trying to propagate an unfunny meme

and yeah you should have made your intentions clear. getting friendzoned is the worst. All the costs of having a girlfriend without any of the benefits = nothx
Sullifam
genryou
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia390 Posts
December 28 2009 05:41 GMT
#28
great experience for you to have, now you finally know that girls never is never logical with their behavior. They being nice to you doesn't mean they are actually attracted to you.



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intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
December 28 2009 05:42 GMT
#29
asian girls, mon dieu! not a fan.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
December 28 2009 06:04 GMT
#30
Man, sorry :/ gl next time with the chicks
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
December 28 2009 06:06 GMT
#31
On December 28 2009 14:42 intrigue wrote:
asian girls, mon dieu! not a fan.

Self-hatred?
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BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
December 28 2009 06:18 GMT
#32
Maybe she was using you to get to your co-worker friend. :3
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
SanguineToss
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada815 Posts
December 28 2009 06:23 GMT
#33
VANCOUVER WHEE!!!

on the serious side

theres tons of girls out there man, sorry for this shit though ;(
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 06:33:57
December 28 2009 06:32 GMT
#34
On December 28 2009 13:21 Snet wrote:
That's kind of shitty. A girl doesn't agree to go ice skating with one guy as just friends, especially if you guys aren't really friends (just coworkers).

Just be glad she is quitting so you don't have to see her around anymore. Take it as a learning experience. Girls are mostly oblivious when it comes to being a friend or relationship.

Why not? Both sides were totally oblivious. Serves the OP right for trying to spring a trick date on her under the pretense of hanging out. If you want to take a girl out, just go and ask,

It's also kind of bullshit that a girl being friendly is automatically perceived as her being romantically interested. OP, the best advice I've got for you is to be more direct next time, and get some female friends. Not girls you're interested in, just friends.

I say all this having just been rejected by a girl I was getting much more intimate signals from than you were, and having directly asked her out on a date.

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selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
December 28 2009 06:35 GMT
#35
Ah, my ban is up... You know I had to post on your story bro. Girls will be girls, but the real issue here is... Who takes a girl ice skating?! Fucking Canadians...
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TheosEx
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States894 Posts
December 28 2009 07:21 GMT
#36
Your conversation should've gone something like this...

Step 1:
You: Um, I don't understand... why do you keep sending me mixed signals like you're interested in me sometimes, then not sometimes...
Her: Um, I just wanted to be friends

Step 2:
You: Uh... I think you misunderstood... I just wanted to get on the same page, I just wanted to make sure you weren't attracted to me, because I am not attracted to you...
*insert long awkward silence*

Step 3:
....?

Step 4:
*Profit*

But seriously, if she wants to play mind-games with you, you are perfectly justified in playing mind games back with her. Don't feed her ego by letting her know she played you.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
December 28 2009 07:22 GMT
#37
am i the only one who sees all the mistakes the op made or what
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
December 28 2009 08:12 GMT
#38
On December 28 2009 16:22 Frits wrote:
am i the only one who sees all the mistakes the op made or what


shoot
Myxomatosis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2392 Posts
December 28 2009 08:31 GMT
#39
if she actually types/talks like this:

"HAHA xD ya for sure !
Wat do u have in mind?"

you should consider killing her rather than dating her
Speake
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States494 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 08:33:15
December 28 2009 08:32 GMT
#40
Don't be a bitch and ask her out earlier. Sounds like her text to "hang out" was just mindless banter which is common when you won't ask a girl out
tQ.Speake
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
December 28 2009 08:43 GMT
#41
On December 28 2009 17:32 unSpeake wrote:
Don't be a bitch and ask her out earlier. Sounds like her text to "hang out" was just mindless banter which is common when you won't ask a girl out


I didn't want to ask her out till she quit work, read my first post.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 28 2009 08:50 GMT
#42
It seems like many of you don't have enough girl friends... it may sound shocking, but it is perfectly ok and normal to have platonic friendships with females. From what you described she just considers you a friend and wanted to hang out. I hang out with girls just as much as I hang out with guys, and for the most part there aren't any 'signals' or intimate attraction of any kind... we just hang out as friends.

Especially when you're getting up to your 20's and such, it's fine for girls to ask guys if they want to hang out. My coworker just asked me if I wanted to hang out yesterday... I wasn't sitting there thinking "omg she must be really into me cuz she asked me to hang out"... Unless you're still a teenager, or are really immature... the OP should almost never be confused to be something more than it was...
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 28 2009 08:59 GMT
#43
Maybe she doesn't skate...... and was too embarrassed to tell you...?
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Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
December 28 2009 09:05 GMT
#44
On December 28 2009 17:50 Xeris wrote:
It seems like many of you don't have enough girl friends... it may sound shocking, but it is perfectly ok and normal to have platonic friendships with females. From what you described she just considers you a friend and wanted to hang out. I hang out with girls just as much as I hang out with guys, and for the most part there aren't any 'signals' or intimate attraction of any kind... we just hang out as friends.

Especially when you're getting up to your 20's and such, it's fine for girls to ask guys if they want to hang out. My coworker just asked me if I wanted to hang out yesterday... I wasn't sitting there thinking "omg she must be really into me cuz she asked me to hang out"... Unless you're still a teenager, or are really immature... the OP should almost never be confused to be something more than it was...


ya I would assume that from the op obv., but, well, it's harder to think of that in the moment. Too many indicators of that really threw things off.

Personally I think it gets kinda stupid having the mind frame that she is always wanting to be friends. Then when a girl who actually is into you comes along you might keep that same mind frame and lose a chance at a relationship. I'm happy this happened because it saved me time having to bother with her and I can move onto the next girl. If she was interested, then it woulda worked out.

To all the people who said I was unclear about my intentions, I really don't get ya. I made it perfectly clear at the end, I don't see how much more clear I could be unless I act like a social retard replying back to her first text: IS THIS A DATE YES OR NO? I think I made the right move clearing things up, coulda been a lot worse :S

thanks for comments
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
December 28 2009 09:05 GMT
#45
On December 28 2009 17:50 Xeris wrote:
It seems like many of you don't have enough girl friends... it may sound shocking, but it is perfectly ok and normal to have platonic friendships with females. From what you described she just considers you a friend and wanted to hang out. I hang out with girls just as much as I hang out with guys, and for the most part there aren't any 'signals' or intimate attraction of any kind... we just hang out as friends.

Especially when you're getting up to your 20's and such, it's fine for girls to ask guys if they want to hang out. My coworker just asked me if I wanted to hang out yesterday... I wasn't sitting there thinking "omg she must be really into me cuz she asked me to hang out"... Unless you're still a teenager, or are really immature... the OP should almost never be confused to be something more than it was...

pretty sure most ppl dont' fuckin go ice skating as friends
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 28 2009 09:07 GMT
#46
Why not?
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
December 28 2009 09:16 GMT
#47
On December 28 2009 18:05 resonance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2009 17:50 Xeris wrote:
It seems like many of you don't have enough girl friends... it may sound shocking, but it is perfectly ok and normal to have platonic friendships with females. From what you described she just considers you a friend and wanted to hang out. I hang out with girls just as much as I hang out with guys, and for the most part there aren't any 'signals' or intimate attraction of any kind... we just hang out as friends.

Especially when you're getting up to your 20's and such, it's fine for girls to ask guys if they want to hang out. My coworker just asked me if I wanted to hang out yesterday... I wasn't sitting there thinking "omg she must be really into me cuz she asked me to hang out"... Unless you're still a teenager, or are really immature... the OP should almost never be confused to be something more than it was...


ya I would assume that from the op obv., but, well, it's harder to think of that in the moment. Too many indicators of that really threw things off.

It's always the case. You should've posted this before you asked her out, so we could give advice. ^^
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Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 09:21:06
December 28 2009 09:20 GMT
#48
On December 28 2009 18:16 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2009 18:05 resonance wrote:
On December 28 2009 17:50 Xeris wrote:
It seems like many of you don't have enough girl friends... it may sound shocking, but it is perfectly ok and normal to have platonic friendships with females. From what you described she just considers you a friend and wanted to hang out. I hang out with girls just as much as I hang out with guys, and for the most part there aren't any 'signals' or intimate attraction of any kind... we just hang out as friends.

Especially when you're getting up to your 20's and such, it's fine for girls to ask guys if they want to hang out. My coworker just asked me if I wanted to hang out yesterday... I wasn't sitting there thinking "omg she must be really into me cuz she asked me to hang out"... Unless you're still a teenager, or are really immature... the OP should almost never be confused to be something more than it was...


ya I would assume that from the op obv., but, well, it's harder to think of that in the moment. Too many indicators of that really threw things off.

It's always the case. You should've posted this before you asked her out, so we could give advice. ^^


lol i didn't ask her out she asked me out! i just made the arrangements. I wanted to ask her out when she left work but she beat me to it like I mentioned before. I wouldn't ask for advice anyway simply b/c giving relationship advice about a relationship that you don't know about is kinda useless. I'm surprised I'm not getting many responses about how I actually made a good decision cuz I basically avoided 1 or more confusing outings with this girl!

edit:

anyway ya regardless thanks for input
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
December 28 2009 09:24 GMT
#49
On December 28 2009 18:20 resonance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2009 18:16 Jibba wrote:
On December 28 2009 18:05 resonance wrote:
On December 28 2009 17:50 Xeris wrote:
It seems like many of you don't have enough girl friends... it may sound shocking, but it is perfectly ok and normal to have platonic friendships with females. From what you described she just considers you a friend and wanted to hang out. I hang out with girls just as much as I hang out with guys, and for the most part there aren't any 'signals' or intimate attraction of any kind... we just hang out as friends.

Especially when you're getting up to your 20's and such, it's fine for girls to ask guys if they want to hang out. My coworker just asked me if I wanted to hang out yesterday... I wasn't sitting there thinking "omg she must be really into me cuz she asked me to hang out"... Unless you're still a teenager, or are really immature... the OP should almost never be confused to be something more than it was...


ya I would assume that from the op obv., but, well, it's harder to think of that in the moment. Too many indicators of that really threw things off.

It's always the case. You should've posted this before you asked her out, so we could give advice. ^^


lol i didn't ask her out she asked me out! i just made the arrangements. I wanted to ask her out when she left work but she beat me to it like I mentioned before. I wouldn't ask for advice anyway simply b/c giving relationship advice about a relationship that you don't know about is kinda useless. I'm surprised I'm not getting many responses about how I actually made a good decision cuz I basically avoided 1 or more confusing outings with this girl!

edit:

anyway ya regardless thanks for input

I don't see the part where she asked you out... I see a part where she asks you to hang out with her, but no part where she actually asks you out (ie. dating)
blabberrrrr
DeathSpank
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1029 Posts
December 28 2009 09:45 GMT
#50
shes wasn't playing mind games you tard she was just being friendly. Protip: if you want to go out on a date say the word "date" don't futz about. Also...you gotta skate.
yes.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
December 28 2009 10:12 GMT
#51
you started strong and finished weak, how do you expect her to react
why so 진지해?
FonzeXD
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States220 Posts
December 28 2009 11:31 GMT
#52
Dude, why buy the cow when you just need the milk? Like the wise men of System of a Down once said:

"Eat ALL THE GRASS,
eat all the grass that you want,
accidents happen in the dark."

You should have just asked from the start "Are you single?" and it would have cleared the fog around you.

Also, Ice skating?!?! WTF ON A FIRSTY? Nonono..

Check out this situation(oh god jersey show get out of my head): [When the girl does everything]

{Note: This all happened in 8 months or so, 8 months ago; lots of humans on this planet}

Okay, story time kids yaaaay!! ^_^ Well, this one time, the opposite happened to me(a guy!). I went to get tutored at my college and my tutor ends up getting all nervous around me and I'm just sitting there like "teach me math already" and then she asks if I want to go see a movie. I was like "uhh, I have horrible patience but SURE!!" I also said "can we go stoned?" and she looked at me a little funny but just agreed(Note: BARELY MET HER). Little did she know I was crazy like that and busted out a fat joint when I picked her up to go to the movies and we smoked for a while... she was laughing and thought the road would go up into the sky(I didn't know it was her first time smoking weed...she was tripping). We go to the movies and make out the instant it gets dark and it was really fun. The next day though, she obviously wants something with me but here's the thing:

"A woman looking for love found sex; a man looking for sex found love."

and that's how "friends with benefits" is born, when you least expect it.

Another incidentt:
I started talking with a friend's friend of mine, just randomly when I'd see her at college with my friend. She had a body and she was funnyyyyyyyy but she had a crazy ex boyfriend always on her tail. I randomly saw her once at college alone and started to small talk and it led to her saying if I wanted to go to the movies with her. I said "suree, why not?" We go to the theater and the first thing she does is LIFT THE SEPARATOR(the arm rest).

What happened next was obvious, but, after a while she wants to hang out with me and, well, I got her to try weed. She was instantly hooked; I was shotgunning her, making out with her with the joint still lit, taking puffs. Then, that same girl asks if I want to go to a concert with her. Big mistake; she had the time of her life and she asked me out. I said yes.

I then realized; these women who took the initiative were really desperate for penis and everyone was scared to give it(performance anxiety?). The moment I stepped in, it just changed everything for them. I just used them both to oblivion and smoked weed with them then dumped the second one.


Now, SITUATION number TWO!![When the guy(me) does everything]:

I was talking with a girl for 4 months and asked her out at the very end. She said "I already have a boyfriend but please don't stop being my friend!!" Fuck that.

I moved on and talked to another girl for a week. I asked her out at the end, she said "It's been awesome but too fast, too fast" but it was obvious that we clicked because we kissed after I asked her out(passionate). I tell her "you can call me whenever you want; I'll answer" so she did. I answer, STONED as fuck and I start talking "HEY WSSUP GIRL WOOO!!!!"

She hung up forever.

I asked my cousin who his friend was this one time and he said "Oh my 2nd cousin" and I asked if I could tap that shit. He said go for it but that she needs a pic of me to see. I send my cousin a pic and my cousin sends the pic to her. She responds "you look like a girl." Great.

I talked with a girl I met on myspace but from my class. I saw her at a party and thought she was cool. We talked and talked non-stop and suddenly, she wouldn't stop texting me. I was getting stoned with all my friends, laughing, running from cops and she's typing love letters to me through my phone. I just thought 'well, pussy is pussy' and I asked her out through text for lulz. She said yes.

All my friends laugh and we joke but I end up going out with the person. She was desperate as hell for penis and wanted me in her BAD, so bad that she'd get me drunk just so we could "accidentally" fuck somehow(which didn't work because I fell off the bed and passed out on the floor, and, how can you fuck on accident?). I used her to oblivion and back and smoked weed with her then she figured it out and dumped me.

Morale: Someone has to take the initiative. If the girl is just smiling and flirting with you, that's not her taking the initiative: that's called "being horny." Being horny is like a high though; it's there, then, it's not. If you're just joking around with a girl and smiling and flirting, that's not taking the initiative either; that's YOU being horny. My suggestion: be yourself, act as if the girl isn't even there, have fun no matter where you're at, and the most important one:

Being SPONTANEOUS! If it's all planned out("okay, so, 9p.m. movies tonight? See ya there!"), it's boring. It's like a wall; if there is a 'wall', then there's always someone out there who will want to bring it down. Bring down their walls: suggest weed before the movie! Suggest a shot of alchi! Suggest... making-out during the movie! Just as long as you throw it out into the ocean Mr. Fishing man, you can reel SOMETHING in, no matter if it's good or not. If it's not good, back to the ocean with you! If it's good... eat it. Get a trophy. Reel in two next time. Get better bait.

I hate talking in metaphors but I can't stop. XD

If I take you for granted, if I fuck up the planet, ain't nothing to it, gangsta rap made me do it.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
December 28 2009 11:44 GMT
#53
So I go to work again and this was the last day she was working and we chat a bit. However, I notice she really isn't into the convos. She loses interest fast, one time she even interrupted me to talk to somebody else. I was thinking what the hell, that's a bit rude. She is talking to other people more than me, etc.. I'm not too worried though, I blame it on that awkwardness period. Don't blame her, she is kinda shy anyway (funny cuz she asked me out!).


theres really not enough information to accurately judge what went wrong...but the way you acted in this situation could have totally swung it in or out of your favor...girls always do shit like that on purpose to see how you react...they don't even do it consciously alot of the time. if you came off needy at all in that situation they can feel it, even if you are physically not showing signs, if you feel it they probably feel it.

but judging on your original conversation with her she did not ask you out. when a girl says 'we should hang out' she is not asking you at all. she is merely unlocking the door, its still up to u to have the balls to open it and step in.

I browse her facebook that night and notice she is going to the movies with a co-worker friend of mine my age! I'm like...what the fuck? Wtf is going on. She is confusing me the hell out of me.


once again, shes playing the same game with you with a bunch of other guys obviously, do not be so naive to think a girl won't keep her options open, obviously the other guy was doing something better than you


So I call her and she doesn't pick up. I send a text saying I need to talk to you something is bothering me.


THIS IS A HUUUUUGE NONO. When you call a girl one time and she doesn't pick up you should never try to text or call again. She will always see your missed call and any further attempt to communicate on your behalf will just come off as incredibly needy. In cases like this its almost always better to just wait and hope, your chances still seem low but saying something like that makes your chances even smaller.

Ur phone conversation with her was the worst...thats just completely and entirely awkward as fuck. Long story short u can't come across as a guy expecting something...you just have to be cool with whatever happens and no matter what the girl says/does if you want her to actually want to end up wanting to be with you.
why so 진지해?
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
December 28 2009 11:52 GMT
#54
On December 28 2009 20:44 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
So I go to work again and this was the last day she was working and we chat a bit. However, I notice she really isn't into the convos. She loses interest fast, one time she even interrupted me to talk to somebody else. I was thinking what the hell, that's a bit rude. She is talking to other people more than me, etc.. I'm not too worried though, I blame it on that awkwardness period. Don't blame her, she is kinda shy anyway (funny cuz she asked me out!).


theres really not enough information to accurately judge what went wrong...but the way you acted in this situation could have totally swung it in or out of your favor...girls always do shit like that on purpose to see how you react...they don't even do it consciously alot of the time. if you came off needy at all in that situation they can feel it, even if you are physically not showing signs, if you feel it they probably feel it.

but judging on your original conversation with her she did not ask you out. when a girl says 'we should hang out' she is not asking you at all. she is merely unlocking the door, its still up to u to have the balls to open it and step in.

Show nested quote +
I browse her facebook that night and notice she is going to the movies with a co-worker friend of mine my age! I'm like...what the fuck? Wtf is going on. She is confusing me the hell out of me.


once again, shes playing the same game with you with a bunch of other guys obviously, do not be so naive to think a girl won't keep her options open, obviously the other guy was doing something better than you


Show nested quote +
So I call her and she doesn't pick up. I send a text saying I need to talk to you something is bothering me.


THIS IS A HUUUUUGE NONO. When you call a girl one time and she doesn't pick up you should never try to text or call again. She will always see your missed call and any further attempt to communicate on your behalf will just come off as incredibly needy. In cases like this its almost always better to just wait and hope, your chances still seem low but saying something like that makes your chances even smaller.

Ur phone conversation with her was the worst...thats just completely and entirely awkward as fuck. Long story short u can't come across as a guy expecting something...you just have to be cool with whatever happens and no matter what the girl says/does if you want her to actually want to end up wanting to be with you.


Oh ya apparently btw she is doing the friend thing with the other guy as well. In fact she is doing the friend thing with a bunch of people, she said she was asking a bunch of people from work to chill with her. Dunno if the other guy will have the same realization like me hah. Anyway she is a weird case, I am going to put this behind me and not stress it.

Thanks for input regardless, good to know.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
December 28 2009 14:51 GMT
#55
dude i think you're forgetting she's a hardcore christian

no chance to begin with
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
December 28 2009 15:19 GMT
#56
That you posted video is funny and true. This situation you described is the exact reason why I ask girls if they would like to go on a date. I've had experiences just like this where I try to pussyfoot around what asking them out directly, while hoping they are getting what I really mean. More often than not this doesn't work out and I wind up with another friend who is a girl, which is fine but not what I wanted.

Make this is a learning experience, which it seems like you have lol.
coltrane
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Chile988 Posts
December 28 2009 16:25 GMT
#57
you seem very shy and immature.

Try to relax, and be faster, you lost her in some point... You could always get what you want. Its on you.
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KvkG
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States65 Posts
December 28 2009 16:30 GMT
#58
On December 28 2009 23:51 Frits wrote:
dude i think you're forgetting she's a hardcore christian

no chance to begin with


lol since when did being hardcore christian mean no chance? I find hardcore christians are often easier than regular folks
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DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
December 28 2009 17:03 GMT
#59
Whoa, that's kind of weird...

From an Asian girl OR a white girl.
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
December 28 2009 17:57 GMT
#60
sounds like she's trying on guys to see which one fits
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
December 28 2009 18:15 GMT
#61
On December 29 2009 02:57 d3_crescentia wrote:
sounds like she's trying on guys to see which one fits

if a baby can come out of her hole, they will definitly all fit.
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 28 2009 18:39 GMT
#62
it's because you are the kinda guy who says "dope"

Fix that shit asap.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 19:32:08
December 28 2009 19:30 GMT
#63
And this is why I automatically assume that every girl I have every met is completely uninterested in me. Saves a lot of trouble (except, now that I have a girlfriend, when I encounter those aggressive ones...lots of drama tends to ensue)
On December 29 2009 03:39 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
it's because you are the kinda guy who says "dope"

Fix that shit asap.

Here's your problem.
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Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
December 28 2009 19:57 GMT
#64
Why the fuck is everyone so crushed about these types of things...
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
December 28 2009 19:57 GMT
#65
On December 29 2009 03:39 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
it's because you are the kinda guy who says "dope"

Fix that shit asap.


that's tight
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
Raptor[eigen].
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada18 Posts
December 29 2009 02:12 GMT
#66
Just remember... It could of been much worse...

+ Show Spoiler +

I hope everything works out.
deal
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 29 2009 02:21 GMT
#67
On December 29 2009 11:12 Raptor[eigen]. wrote:
Just remember... It could of been much worse...

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdv2exhGxU4

I hope everything works out.

ya, you could be dane cook
thank the lord for small blessings
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BraveNewWorld
Profile Joined December 2009
United States229 Posts
December 29 2009 02:47 GMT
#68
girls can be weird like that sometimes
"who is bisu anyway" - torm3ntin (Jan. 19th, 2009)
Maero
Profile Joined December 2007
349 Posts
December 29 2009 04:36 GMT
#69
On December 29 2009 11:21 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 11:12 Raptor[eigen]. wrote:
Just remember... It could of been much worse...

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdv2exhGxU4

I hope everything works out.

ya, you could be dane cook
thank the lord for small blessings


oh god damn it this got me
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
December 29 2009 06:30 GMT
#70
On December 29 2009 03:15 YPang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 02:57 d3_crescentia wrote:
sounds like she's trying on guys to see which one fits

if a baby can come out of her hole, they will definitly all fit.

loooooooooool

in other news, conversations with my sister and from personal observation reveals that when a woman is single and looking, she'll intimate situations with a lot of different guys and screen through them until she finds the best available relationship candidate through a series of tests

and you, good sir, have failed spectacularly

some women are aware that they do this (which is why they always have plausible deniability), but a lot of times it's just an unconscious response - you finding out about the other dude was a test in and of itself, and it didn't require any additional effort from her to set up
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
December 29 2009 06:45 GMT
#71
this is why you're supposed to be an asshole

if they keep coming back for more, they want you.
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Linx_101
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada166 Posts
December 29 2009 06:56 GMT
#72
WOW Resonance,

you described the situation im in almost to a T. Its actually quite scary.

Now I have this bad feeling that this is going to happen to me, and this time the girl isn't going to quit the job :S
An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind - Mahatma Gandhi
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
December 29 2009 07:14 GMT
#73
On December 29 2009 15:30 d3_crescentia wrote:

in other news, conversations with my sister and from personal observation reveals that when a woman is single and looking, she'll intimate situations with a lot of different guys and screen through them until she finds the best available relationship candidate through a series of tests

Gross.
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Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
December 29 2009 07:19 GMT
#74
On December 29 2009 15:30 d3_crescentia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 03:15 YPang wrote:
On December 29 2009 02:57 d3_crescentia wrote:
sounds like she's trying on guys to see which one fits

if a baby can come out of her hole, they will definitly all fit.

loooooooooool

in other news, conversations with my sister and from personal observation reveals that when a woman is single and looking, she'll intimate situations with a lot of different guys and screen through them until she finds the best available relationship candidate through a series of tests

and you, good sir, have failed spectacularly

some women are aware that they do this (which is why they always have plausible deniability), but a lot of times it's just an unconscious response - you finding out about the other dude was a test in and of itself, and it didn't require any additional effort from her to set up

I don't feel ronery anymore.
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Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
December 29 2009 07:21 GMT
#75
On December 29 2009 15:30 d3_crescentia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 03:15 YPang wrote:
On December 29 2009 02:57 d3_crescentia wrote:
sounds like she's trying on guys to see which one fits

if a baby can come out of her hole, they will definitly all fit.

and you, good sir, have failed spectacularly


Had to respond to this comment. I really don't consider this failing at all, I saved myself a ton of time and avoided any more confusion with her. I'm not bothered that she just wanted to be friends, I really just wanted to try dating her simply for experience, I knew there really wouldn't be much relationship. Was just shocked @ the result.

But if you wanna believe it's a spectacular fail then go for it.

On December 29 2009 15:45 udgnim wrote:
this is why you're supposed to be an asshole

if they keep coming back for more, they want you.


Ya, I thought about this for a moment. I normally am with most girls I find but I really couldn't with this girl cuz she was, again, hardcore christian and she would just be turned off simply put. Now I know not to really bother with hardcore religious girls

On December 29 2009 15:56 Linx_101 wrote:
WOW Resonance,

you described the situation im in almost to a T. Its actually quite scary.

Now I have this bad feeling that this is going to happen to me, and this time the girl isn't going to quit the job :S


Hehe, don't feel worried. Most people in my blog seem to be thinking that I made a horrible decision/really fucked up/got owned etc.. I'll agree that I definitely got a bit owned there, but I don't think I really made any bad decisions. She asked me to do something, I followed up with what appeared to be a date to most normal people. She agreed but didn't understand. She gave me mixed signals. I confronted her to make sure everything was clear. It wasn't clear, and that's the end of that. I'd be really bothered/feeling rejected if I was really into her but I wasn't.

Anyway this girl might be coming back to my job at some point (most employees do) but whatever who cares. The point is that I made everything clear and didn't have to bother with her anymore. If she was into me and was mature then my semi-confrontation would be fine. The only reason it was awkward/not the most fun was because she wasn't mature enough at all to comprehend/be serious about the situation.

Dw about it
ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
December 29 2009 08:51 GMT
#76
WoaH

This thread is great.

I once found an asian girl; we talked for a bit.
After seeing eachother everyday for two weeks i kissed her.
Real story.
Studying Chinese~
t_co
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States702 Posts
December 29 2009 09:05 GMT
#77
On December 28 2009 12:57 resonance wrote:
I gotta blog this. This is so frigging ridiculous.

Ok so I started work at a clothing store about 3 months ago or so. Everything is all good, I am liking my job, I am liking my co-workers, etc.. Anyway, there is a co-worker who is a year younger than me and pretty decent looking. We talked a lot at work and she seemed very into me, and I was interested in her as well. We talked for a while and I got very good indicators of interest from her. I was thinking about asking her to do something, however I did not want to date anybody from work simply to avoid possible problems (I really want to keep this job).

Anyway, so that lasted for a while. Couldn't really ask to do something, so I kinda left it. We still chatted a fair bit at work but w/e.

She told me a while ago that she is starting school in January, and might be leaving work. I'm thinking that's a great opportunity to ask her to do something.

At the beginning of December she tells me that she is quitting work by the end of December. I'm thinking that's great I'll ask her out when she quits.

Now a little info about her. Firstly she is asian. Being caucasian, I tend to find most asian girls to act very different from white girls. The way they interact and what they talk about, etc.. Doesn't bother me, I live in Vancouver which is so ridiculously asian it's not even funny. I would say it's about 70% asian in Vancouver and 30% the rest. Anyway, secondly, she ishardcore Christian. So ridiculously christian it's not even funny. I am really not attracted to that at all as I switch back and forth from being agnostic to atheist (but I was catholic when I was much younger). But hell you know what, why should that be a reason to not ask her out. I need some experience, why the hell not. She is into me, why the hell not.

So we had a work party and she came and she was quiet as hell the whole time. I thought it was kinda peculiar but w/e, nobody really talked much at the work party because nobody wanted to say something stupid and be possibly fired/in trouble/etc.. This was around the 22nd.

So after that she texts me asking me something about work, and I replied. We sent a couple texts and we start text chatting and I ask her what she has planned for the break.

She replies:

"haha well i have 3 more
days of work! and then
next week i just chill =
we shud hang out! Wat's
up for ur break?"

I'm thinking, wow ok she must be pretty damn into me to ask ME out, I don't know many girls who ask guys out unless they are REALLY into the guys.

So I am like wow dope. I say ok let's do it. I even mention that I was about to ask her to do something but she beat me to it.

She responds:

"HAHA xD ya for sure !
Wat do u have in mind?"

I tell her I will think of something and let her know in a couple days. She says great.

Now at this point I'm thinking, this is pretty dope. I got a girl who is really interested in me, and I hardly did anything to get to that point. Life is also good as well being on break and couple fun things going on and of course being able to play sc.

I call her a couple days later, and recommend ice skating. Firstly I am really not into movies, I think it totally screams boring guy. Secondly, ice skating would make certain the mood the clear, this wasn't just being friends. She sounded very nervous and was like "sure ok!". Seemed good. Nervousness is great. Gotta love that awkwardness period in between friends and a potential relationship.

So I go to work again and this was the last day she was working and we chat a bit. However, I notice she really isn't into the convos. She loses interest fast, one time she even interrupted me to talk to somebody else. I was thinking what the hell, that's a bit rude. She is talking to other people more than me, etc.. I'm not too worried though, I blame it on that awkwardness period. Don't blame her, she is kinda shy anyway (funny cuz she asked me out!).

So I'm starting to be concerned here whether or not she meant to go as friends or a potential relationship.

I browse her facebook that night and notice she is going to the movies with a co-worker friend of mine my age! I'm like...what the fuck? Wtf is going on. She is confusing me the hell out of me.

So I call her and she doesn't pick up. I send a text saying I need to talk to you something is bothering me. She replies

"kk sry, was eating dinner
with friends. Ill call u
soon!"

I am thinking ok. She tells me later that night that she won't be home till late so won't be able to call. Ok. I go play sc. While I am playing sc she goes on msn and msgs me saying "yoooo" "you wanted to chat??", but I was playing so I didn't get the msg till she was offline. I sent a fb message saying I will call her tomorrow.

Tomorrow, which was today, I called her up after work.

"hey do you have a few minutes to talk?"

she replies

"um sure okkayy"

I say,

"k I'm going to be really honest here and I want you to do the same"

"okayy.."

She sounds nervous, as if I am about to propose to her or something.

"I am really confused right now and...am getting really mixed........feelings from you. What were your intentions when you asked me to do something? Do you know what I mean?

-nice awkward pause-

"oh..justt friendss"

are you effing kidding me...

I explain my side of the story. She contributes almost nothing to the conversation.

I ask at the end of another pause:

"so uh...is there anything you wanted to say?"

"umm...sorryyy"

Honestly, I knew there was no relationship there, but I just did it cuz I figured why not.

"mkkk well, im happy we cleared this up"

blah blah blah..

What the fuck. Who does that seriously. At least I saved myself time and didn't bother going skating.

Edit:

Reminds me of this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGKtO97mBuw


ignore her, dont put up with that sorta shit
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teh leet newb
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1999 Posts
December 29 2009 09:12 GMT
#78
OP: So you waited 3 months to ask her out? That pretty much just killed it.
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Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
December 29 2009 09:18 GMT
#79
Same thing happened to me last month
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-29 13:16:23
December 29 2009 13:15 GMT
#80
On December 29 2009 18:12 teh leet newb wrote:
OP: So you waited 3 months to ask her out? That pretty much just killed it.


Yeah, bro. You locked yourself in the "friend zone."

Girls don't wait around like guys do.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
December 29 2009 14:08 GMT
#81
On December 28 2009 13:41 jeddus wrote:

I even thought ice skating was a good call, much better than the movies.

My personal opinion is she WAS interested, got fickle, then flipped it around.

Tis the way of the wimmin.


...Yea...She seemed interested....

I think you let her make a few too many moves...
=/

Honestly, as much as I like the idea of ice skating over the movies...she clearly like the movies idea...sucks man, but its life...
You shoulda asked her out before she quit work man...Once you known she was quitting it wouldn't of mattered. Like seriously, at that point they wouldn't fire you for anything happening...and a retail clothing store? They wouldn't care...

Lol...And I'd of recommended not saying this
On December 28 2009 13:41 jeddus wrote:""hey do you have a few minutes to talk?"
she replies

"um sure okkayy"

I say,

"k I'm going to be really honest here and I want you to do the same"

"okayy.."

She sounds nervous, as if I am about to propose to her or something."

Kinda a convo kill right there. Bitches aren't direct creatures...They don't like the point, they like dodging the point.

On December 28 2009 16:22 Frits wrote:
am i the only one who sees all the mistakes the op made or what

Nope, had to point some out. Lol. I was thinking I was the only person to not just jump on the "that girls stupid" wagon...Shit, she's a girl, we know that already...lol...

But yea, as rek said, don't ever let yourself come off as needy.
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Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-29 16:44:31
December 29 2009 14:51 GMT
#82
expanded below
AtlaS
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1001 Posts
December 29 2009 15:43 GMT
#83
This is very typical behavior from girls who spell "should" as "shud". She sounds like she's young, like still in high school/maybe first or second year in college and doesn't sound like a mature girl. She's just interested in being out-going and making friends. When you're into a girl and she's not into you, you end up over-analyzing every word she says and thinking up ideas that were never in her head in the first place.

By the way, it's a pretty easy sign that she only wants friendship with you if she's going on these little play-dates with other co-workers too. That or she's just a slut.
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Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
December 29 2009 16:44 GMT
#84
On December 28 2009 20:44 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
So I go to work again and this was the last day she was working and we chat a bit. However, I notice she really isn't into the convos. She loses interest fast, one time she even interrupted me to talk to somebody else. I was thinking what the hell, that's a bit rude. She is talking to other people more than me, etc.. I'm not too worried though, I blame it on that awkwardness period. Don't blame her, she is kinda shy anyway (funny cuz she asked me out!).


theres really not enough information to accurately judge what went wrong...but the way you acted in this situation could have totally swung it in or out of your favor...girls always do shit like that on purpose to see how you react...they don't even do it consciously alot of the time. if you came off needy at all in that situation they can feel it, even if you are physically not showing signs, if you feel it they probably feel it.

but judging on your original conversation with her she did not ask you out. when a girl says 'we should hang out' she is not asking you at all. she is merely unlocking the door, its still up to u to have the balls to open it and step in.

Show nested quote +
I browse her facebook that night and notice she is going to the movies with a co-worker friend of mine my age! I'm like...what the fuck? Wtf is going on. She is confusing me the hell out of me.


once again, shes playing the same game with you with a bunch of other guys obviously, do not be so naive to think a girl won't keep her options open, obviously the other guy was doing something better than you


Show nested quote +
So I call her and she doesn't pick up. I send a text saying I need to talk to you something is bothering me.


THIS IS A HUUUUUGE NONO. When you call a girl one time and she doesn't pick up you should never try to text or call again. She will always see your missed call and any further attempt to communicate on your behalf will just come off as incredibly needy. In cases like this its almost always better to just wait and hope, your chances still seem low but saying something like that makes your chances even smaller.

Ur phone conversation with her was the worst...thats just completely and entirely awkward as fuck. Long story short u can't come across as a guy expecting something...you just have to be cool with whatever happens and no matter what the girl says/does if you want her to actually want to end up wanting to be with you.


As well as this.

Never wait for a girl to ask you out, you should have made a move way before this happened.
You shouldn't be waiting for her to open the door, you should be kicking the door down.

Also 95% of the talking+Bullshit with women is not actually making a difference in her opinion on you. There are pivot moments in the interaction with women and these moments are what changes her mind. All of the chumps at her work + in her social circle and going to be talking the meaningless BS you probably churned out. You have to make a difference when it matters and make the moves.

and like Rekrul said here . "if you came off needy at all in that situation they can feel it, even if you are physically not showing signs, if you feel it they probably feel it." as soon as you show some approval-seeking behavior your giving her the higher ground. You aren't asserting any dominance, no one is attracting to guys who are trying to impress women. They might find it amusing for a short while but it isn't going to move the relationship on. You need to show signs that you are a man worth having in her life. You need to make her feel the need to impress you, you need to exude dominance and confidence. You have to be a risk taker, you need to know the worst case scenario and not give a flying fuck about it. Don't drool over her and DEFINITELY do not call her and then text. That's the nail in the coffin, women don't want a clingy wimp then want to jump on the roller coaster ride of your amazing life, even though she's probably getting kicked out later.

By the time that terrible phone conversation took place it was over, at least you can learn from this failure. And don't try anything else with her now, it's way gone.

sky_slasher
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States328 Posts
December 29 2009 18:36 GMT
#85
dude man

you were over-analyzing.

she was just excited to get off work and chill. "Yeah I don't work any more~ let's hang out~~"

she probably said that to buncha ppl. The person that went to movies with her, scheduling, logistics, and ppl just hanging out timing moment worked out. Many girls forget stuffs and just hang out with ppl whoever happens to be hanging around.
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
December 29 2009 19:49 GMT
#86
On December 29 2009 16:14 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 15:30 d3_crescentia wrote:

in other news, conversations with my sister and from personal observation reveals that when a woman is single and looking, she'll intimate situations with a lot of different guys and screen through them until she finds the best available relationship candidate through a series of tests

Gross.


What? that's what guys should be doing too it's called natural selection
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StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
December 29 2009 19:59 GMT
#87
On December 30 2009 04:49 Hypnosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 16:14 Jibba wrote:
On December 29 2009 15:30 d3_crescentia wrote:

in other news, conversations with my sister and from personal observation reveals that when a woman is single and looking, she'll intimate situations with a lot of different guys and screen through them until she finds the best available relationship candidate through a series of tests

Gross.


What? that's what guys should be doing too it's called natural selection


lol yeah sers. I don't get why d3 wrote that like it's some arcane ritual only women do. It's called meeting people and getting to know them. It's just sad that women can't hang out with a person without signing some kind of contract that it's the first step towards sex.

Most girls who have cool personalities get away with this no problem. It's the dumb/annoying girls who try to do it and fail because no guy in their right mind would think hanging out with her was fun without the possibility of sex. Kind of like rich guys who have no personality, girls will only hang out with them thinking they can get some free drinks/meals/VIP passes out of it. Never any other reason.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
December 29 2009 22:13 GMT
#88
On December 30 2009 04:49 Hypnosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 16:14 Jibba wrote:
On December 29 2009 15:30 d3_crescentia wrote:

in other news, conversations with my sister and from personal observation reveals that when a woman is single and looking, she'll intimate situations with a lot of different guys and screen through them until she finds the best available relationship candidate through a series of tests

Gross.


What? that's what guys should be doing too it's called natural selection

First of all, it has nothing to do with natural selection. Second, it was a subtle joke about him and his sister.
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Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
December 29 2009 22:53 GMT
#89
On December 30 2009 07:13 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 04:49 Hypnosis wrote:
On December 29 2009 16:14 Jibba wrote:
On December 29 2009 15:30 d3_crescentia wrote:

in other news, conversations with my sister and from personal observation reveals that when a woman is single and looking, she'll intimate situations with a lot of different guys and screen through them until she finds the best available relationship candidate through a series of tests

Gross.


What? that's what guys should be doing too it's called natural selection

First of all, it has nothing to do with natural selection. Second, it was a subtle joke about him and his sister.


ok...?
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
December 29 2009 23:00 GMT
#90
Sounds like you've never been friends with a girl before... -_-
Hello
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
December 30 2009 00:27 GMT
#91
On December 30 2009 07:13 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 04:49 Hypnosis wrote:
On December 29 2009 16:14 Jibba wrote:
On December 29 2009 15:30 d3_crescentia wrote:

in other news, conversations with my sister and from personal observation reveals that when a woman is single and looking, she'll intimate situations with a lot of different guys and screen through them until she finds the best available relationship candidate through a series of tests

Gross.


What? that's what guys should be doing too it's called natural selection

First of all, it has nothing to do with natural selection. Second, it was a subtle joke about him and his sister.

I don't get it. I love my sister very much.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
pubbanana
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3063 Posts
December 30 2009 01:06 GMT
#92
Just stop trying to be with a girl and die alone. That's what I'm doing, feels great.
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kdog3683
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States916 Posts
December 30 2009 04:51 GMT
#93
My belief is.

Kiss her the 1st time you hang out. Whether that be meeting her at work, classroom, school, club first time.

If she likes you, she will push away only a little hard. That is when you use the power of suction to pull her closer until she succumbs to your manlyman powers.

If she doesn't like you, when you turn on the lip suction, she will pull away harder. You must now apologize profusely, and hope there is no restraining order.
Multiply your efforts.
dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1437 Posts
December 30 2009 06:44 GMT
#94
On December 28 2009 13:17 ToyotaDemon wrote:
This is not really a "mind-fuck" it is just you (a simple male engulfed in testosterone) unconsciously looking for "signs" in a female that you are interested in.

Don't worry, every guy does it/has done it. Just gotta learn from this experience and make your intentions clear next time, etc xP



On December 28 2009 13:49 ddengster wrote:
Asian christians are so friendly(at least those whom I've met), they confuse you sometimes.

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Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
December 30 2009 13:43 GMT
#95
On December 30 2009 13:51 kdog3683 wrote:
My belief is.

Kiss her the 1st time you hang out. Whether that be meeting her at work, classroom, school, club first time.

If she likes you, she will push away only a little hard. That is when you use the power of suction to pull her closer until she succumbs to your manlyman powers.

If she doesn't like you, when you turn on the lip suction, she will pull away harder. You must now apologize profusely, and hope there is no restraining order.


just hug her first time you hang out, kissing then is too fast for tons of women.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
December 30 2009 15:57 GMT
#96
You waited too long bro.
At least you tried to skate.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
December 30 2009 16:01 GMT
#97
On December 31 2009 00:57 Sadistx wrote:
You waited too long bro.
At least you tried to skate.

LMFAO, i just realized "skating" XD
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Nazarene
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Denmark996 Posts
December 30 2009 18:28 GMT
#98
On December 31 2009 01:01 YPang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2009 00:57 Sadistx wrote:
You waited too long bro.
At least you tried to skate.

LMFAO, i just realized "skating" XD

LMAOOOOO me too hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
A+ for effort!
duckett
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States589 Posts
December 30 2009 18:36 GMT
#99
On December 29 2009 15:30 d3_crescentia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 03:15 YPang wrote:
On December 29 2009 02:57 d3_crescentia wrote:
sounds like she's trying on guys to see which one fits

if a baby can come out of her hole, they will definitly all fit.

loooooooooool

in other news, conversations with my sister and from personal observation reveals that when a woman is single and looking, she'll intimate situations with a lot of different guys and screen through them until she finds the best available relationship candidate through a series of tests

and you, good sir, have failed spectacularly

some women are aware that they do this (which is why they always have plausible deniability), but a lot of times it's just an unconscious response - you finding out about the other dude was a test in and of itself, and it didn't require any additional effort from her to set up

your sister is uber sinister
she also says she likes playing games with guys =P
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
December 30 2009 19:21 GMT
#100
On December 31 2009 03:36 duckett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 15:30 d3_crescentia wrote:
On December 29 2009 03:15 YPang wrote:
On December 29 2009 02:57 d3_crescentia wrote:
sounds like she's trying on guys to see which one fits

if a baby can come out of her hole, they will definitly all fit.

loooooooooool

in other news, conversations with my sister and from personal observation reveals that when a woman is single and looking, she'll intimate situations with a lot of different guys and screen through them until she finds the best available relationship candidate through a series of tests

and you, good sir, have failed spectacularly

some women are aware that they do this (which is why they always have plausible deniability), but a lot of times it's just an unconscious response - you finding out about the other dude was a test in and of itself, and it didn't require any additional effort from her to set up

your sister is uber sinister
she also says she likes playing games with guys =P

at least she's honest about it
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KvkG
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States65 Posts
December 30 2009 19:25 GMT
#101
On December 31 2009 01:01 YPang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2009 00:57 Sadistx wrote:
You waited too long bro.
At least you tried to skate.

LMFAO, i just realized "skating" XD


rofl that can't be a coincidence. You obviously failed because you didn't skate in the proper fashion: with a skateboard. Don't try to half ass it and try to work iceskating up to the level of real skating

u gotta skate
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 30 2009 19:31 GMT
#102
That isn't funny. Spewing terrible memes all over tl.net will not get you anywhere.
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
December 30 2009 20:01 GMT
#103
"u gotta jump"

+ Show Spoiler +
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SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 23:09:10
December 30 2009 22:05 GMT
#104
lol every girl say "UMGZZ WE SHOULD HANG OUT"

that and your probably not attractive or smart enough. asian girls are superficial
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 31 2009 02:29 GMT
#105
On December 31 2009 04:31 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
That isn't funny. Spewing terrible memes all over tl.net will not get you anywhere.

jlig
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
December 31 2009 02:33 GMT
#106
oh snap
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Singapore6164 Posts
December 31 2009 02:55 GMT
#107
On December 31 2009 04:25 KvkG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2009 01:01 YPang wrote:
On December 31 2009 00:57 Sadistx wrote:
You waited too long bro.
At least you tried to skate.

LMFAO, i just realized "skating" XD


rofl that can't be a coincidence. You obviously failed because you didn't skate in the proper fashion: with a skateboard. Don't try to half ass it and try to work iceskating up to the level of real skating

u gotta skate

LOL
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 31 2009 03:57 GMT
#108
On December 31 2009 11:29 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2009 04:31 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
That isn't funny. Spewing terrible memes all over tl.net will not get you anywhere.

jlig


God bless you.
HowitZer
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1610 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-31 03:59:34
December 31 2009 03:57 GMT
#109
Sounds like she couldn't read your mind or didn't want to. I don't blame her.
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Colbert
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada148 Posts
December 31 2009 06:50 GMT
#110
Man. Every day on TL there is some blog like this. I give the guys mad props for writing about their issues with women and dating, but I've never really seen anybody giving any solid feedback. Most of it (as witnessed in this thread) is "ya girls suck" or something stupid like that. Out of every post I read, rekrul came closest to nailing the head on the coffin.

I've been a professional dating coach in canada for a while now. I teach men mainly 1on1, and my ultimate goal is to get them on a path towards success. This means, they need to understand where they are, understand where (want) to go, and most importantly, how to get there.

Now, I'm going to give you some food for thought, and whether or not you implement any of this, that's up to you. But if you do, you'll most definitely have much more success (whether that be one night stands, a girlfriend, just making friends in general, etc). Alright. That's enough about me. Let's do this thing.

One of the most important concepts that applies in every aspect of life (dating, starcraft, etc), is to take full responsibility if something doesn't work out how you want it to. Never blame anyone but yourself. An example: You are protoss, and you lose to a zerg. You could cry "ZVP IMBA!!!" or, you could watch the replay and see where you could have improved. Just like here, you posted saying how you didn't do anything wrong and how it was this girl who is just a headcase being totally weird.

From what I read, there are a few different areas you could have improved and that would have landed you (at the very least) on a date with the girl, and by saying anything (such as, "i wasnt really that interested anyways") other than "shit, I fucked up", you are only protecting your ego, and re-in forcing these bad habits that caused this in the first place.


On December 28 2009 12:57 resonance wrote:
Ok so I started work at a clothing store about 3 months ago or so. Everything is all good, I am liking my job, I am liking my co-workers, etc.. Anyway, there is a co-worker who is a year younger than me and pretty decent looking. We talked a lot at work and she seemed very into me, and I was interested in her as well. We talked for a while and I got very good indicators of interest from her. I was thinking about asking her to do something, however I did not want to date anybody from work simply to avoid possible problems (I really want to keep this job).

She told me a while ago that she is starting school in January, and might be leaving work. I'm thinking that's a great opportunity to ask her to do something.

At the beginning of December she tells me that she is quitting work by the end of December. I'm thinking that's great I'll ask her out when she quits.

But hell you know what, why should that be a reason to not ask her out. I need some experience, why the hell not. She is into me, why the hell not.


This is all for the most part - good. I have the same philosophy (avoid dating co-workers).

On December 28 2009 12:57 resonance wrote:
So we had a work party and she came and she was quiet as hell the whole time. I thought it was kinda peculiar but w/e, nobody really talked much at the work party because nobody wanted to say something stupid and be possibly fired/in trouble/etc.. This was around the 22nd.

So after that she texts me asking me something about work, and I replied. We sent a couple texts and we start text chatting and I ask her what she has planned for the break.

She replies:

"haha well i have 3 more
days of work! and then
next week i just chill =
we shud hang out! Wat's
up for ur break?"

I'm thinking, wow ok she must be pretty damn into me to ask ME out, I don't know many girls who ask guys out unless they are REALLY into the guys.


So as a few people have already said, this is more her way of opening the door for you instead of blatantly asking you out. Internally your reaction was sort of good, but sort of bad. Basically, the problem that happened was you took it as basically that she's super into you, and it's a guaranteed thing (ie: it's going to go very well).

On December 28 2009 12:57 resonance wrote:

So I am like wow dope. I say ok let's do it. I even mention that I was about to ask her to do something but she beat me to it.


It's tough not to do, but I don't really like it when you mention that you were going to do the same thing. To me, it comes across as, you've been thinking about it but were too much of a pussy to actually ask. It doesn't benefit you in any way really. A few variations you could have done instead are:

"Ya... I've been meaning you ask you out for awhile, butt I've been wayy too busy."

or, more appropriate for your case... "Ya, I wanted to ask you out, but I don't date co-workers, so anyways...." This type of thing works really well, but you need to make sure when you say it you go "so anyways.." and onto a new topic right away... that way she's processing the comment on more of a sub-conscious level instead of you being quiet and waiting for her to react to it. Something like this will really set the frame well for your date.

On December 28 2009 12:57 resonance wrote:
Now at this point I'm thinking, this is pretty dope. I got a girl who is really interested in me, and I hardly did anything to get to that point.

I call her a couple days later, and recommend ice skating. Firstly I am really not into movies, I think it totally screams boring guy. Secondly, ice skating would make certain the mood the clear, this wasn't just being friends. She sounded very nervous and was like "sure ok!". Seemed good. Nervousness is great. Gotta love that awkwardness period in between friends and a potential relationship.


This is all good. Ice-skating is a great date because there's a good chance the girl sucks at skating, so she will want to hold onto you a lot.

On December 28 2009 12:57 resonance wrote:
So I go to work again and this was the last day she was working and we chat a bit. However, I notice she really isn't into the convos. She loses interest fast, one time she even interrupted me to talk to somebody else. I was thinking what the hell, that's a bit rude. She is talking to other people more than me, etc.. I'm not too worried though, I blame it on that awkwardness period. Don't blame her, she is kinda shy anyway (funny cuz she asked me out!).


Throughout the whole post, there's various instances where you show your lack of confidence. Up until this point you aren't showing it too much, but it's subtle things like this that give it away. Things like over-analyzing her behavior, reading into things wayyy to much. You guys have a date coming up, she wants to go because she likes you, and vice versa, just be chill until that day comes. [/quote]

On December 28 2009 12:57 resonance wrote:
So I'm starting to be concerned here whether or not she meant to go as friends or a potential relationship.

I browse her facebook that night and notice she is going to the movies with a co-worker friend of mine my age! I'm like...what the fuck? Wtf is going on. She is confusing me the hell out of me.


So this is a perfect example. You are already being insecure about whether or not she wants to go out as friends or as a date. OF COURSE IT IS A DATE. The only thing keeping it from being a date is you.

Browsing her facebook is not only (creepy), but also reaaallly bad. Who gives a shit if she's going to the movies with a co-worker of yours. It's not like you guys are married. Your expectations seem a bit much. There is nothing stopping her from going on any amount of dates, or sleeping with any amount of guys. Until you two are "mutually exclusive", her dating life is irrelevant to you. Much like yours is irrelevant to her.

On December 28 2009 12:57 resonance wrote:
So I call her and she doesn't pick up. I send a text saying I need to talk to you something is bothering me.

Tomorrow, which was today, I called her up after work.

"hey do you have a few minutes to talk?"

she replies

"um sure okkayy"

I say,

"k I'm going to be really honest here and I want you to do the same"

"okayy.."

She sounds nervous, as if I am about to propose to her or something.

"I am really confused right now and...am getting really mixed........feelings from you. What were your intentions when you asked me to do something? Do you know what I mean?

-nice awkward pause-

"oh..justt friendss"

are you effing kidding me...

I explain my side of the story. She contributes almost nothing to the conversation.

I ask at the end of another pause:

"so uh...is there anything you wanted to say?"

"umm...sorryyy"


Honestly dude, this isn't attractive behavior. You are treating her like a "girlfriend" when you haven't even been on the first date yet. You are putting wayyy too much pressure on her.

I can guarantee she originally wanted to go on a "date" with you, but after seeing how reactive you became once that was set in stone, she lost all attraction. She said "oh justt friends" because you put a ton of pressure on her. Making her decide.

Example.

Go up to a girl and ask her what kind of music she likes. The majority of the time, what will she say? "Everything". Does she really like everything? Probably not. She's answering "Everything" because that is the easiest and quickest response, to get you to shut up and stop asking questions. You're putting too much social pressure on her.

Whereas if you asked her "Hey, what kind of music do you like... because I like blah blah blah"... guaranteed you will get a more in-depth response from her, because you've been in more effort and she will want to re-pay that. Go try it out.

On December 28 2009 12:57 resonance wrote:
Honestly, I knew there was no relationship there, but I just did it cuz I figured why not.

"mkkk well, im happy we cleared this up"

blah blah blah..

What the fuck. Who does that seriously. At least I saved myself time and didn't bother going skating.



Basically, you were way too reactive. Being reactive is not a trait of a confident dude. Your behavior was geared towards you guys already being in a relationship, instead of two people about to go on a first date. You put way too much social pressure on her to decide if you guys were going as friends or a potential relationship, instead of just going on the date, seeing how it went, and deciding if you wanted to go on a second one (how dating should work).

So, where do you go from here?

Well first, obviously, you need to get out into the dating scene more. That way, you can make improvements and you won't fuck up little things so much. Many different approaches to this, do whatever you feel like.

Second, you could read "A New Earth" or "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle. Get the audio books if you aren't much of a reader. These help a lot on the topic of the "ego" and how to just chill out and enjoy life moment by moment, instead of being concerned with events that are in the future (which causes anxiety -> you fucking it up).

If you need further explanation or have questions, don't hesitate. I can definitely expand and go deeper on everything.

-Aksion
Sometimes you win, Sometimes you learn
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
January 11 2010 00:06 GMT
#111
Ok. I go play sc.

What the puck? I thought u quit. I stopped playing everything for 1.5-2 months at least october somethingeth after reading your blog. I'm ashamed of you -_-

I can't even look at you right now (nor could I ever, I guess).

Hey guys, I guess it's true... It really is impossible to quit starcraft.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
January 11 2010 03:36 GMT
#112
dumb sluts
2on2
Profile Joined April 2009
United States142 Posts
January 13 2010 17:52 GMT
#113
She was indeed interested in you, then u turned her off with the confrontation

Dont feel bad dude, I had the same thing happen to me with a co-worker. shes really cute and asked me out one day, i dicked around and gave ALL the wrong replies and never got to spend a moment with her.

Play the numbers game and ask every girl out, make it a game and try Bo3 everyday

These help a lot on the topic of the "ego" and how to just chill out and enjoy life moment by moment, instead of being concerned with events that are in the future (which causes anxiety -> you fucking it up).


Thats really good advice, perfectly describes my flaw
Kennelie
Profile Joined December 2007
United States2296 Posts
January 13 2010 18:15 GMT
#114
i was expecting this sea hunt to bring along another guy friend to go ice skating with you.
ya had ya shot kid!
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-13 23:57:00
January 13 2010 23:54 GMT
#115
You did a lot of things wrong. First off, when you call her, if you even call her, why are you REALLY calling her? To talk about her day? No, probably not. You have sex in mind. Now when she calls YOU, IF she calls you, what's on her mind? If she DOES want to just talk about her day with you then it puts into question how you presented yourself to her in the first place.

If you LOOKED at her in a very friendly, platonic way, and talked to her about friendly, platonic topics from the very first time you met and onwards, then what do you expect? Even when I'm talking with my close friends (girls, mostly ) I always put in just a little whiff of sexual energy in our conversations by adjusting my body language (From time to time I'll look deeply into one of their eyes, talk a little slower than usual, and look at their lips) and by talking openly about sex.

With coworkers it's always iffy, and I actually recommend against it if you're not too experienced with flirting with women. I always insinuate sexual things if she relates to something I say but in a work place this can go horribly wrong if your bodylanguage is a little creepy. My old boss is really creepy for instance, and he told me one time that he commented on a girls hair one day and she took it the wrong way and he got this long lecture by his boss on what's appropriate and not. So for chicks at work, once I've established some sort of mutual connection I always just say something more tame, but redirect it none the less. "You know, if we weren't coworkers, I would've asked you on a date a long time ago, but I don't want us to get in any trouble." And that, doesn't even take a day to do. But from the very beginning you establish what you want, and you present yourself as a potential mate.

Anyways, that aside, I think 1) You didn't lead from the start 2) You reacted awkwardly. I think the fact that she had to offer to go out, first of all, after all these months showed a lack of a back bone on your part. Second of all, even through merely reading your story I get the feeling that you came off as needy when she offered to go out. It sounds like she was kind of interested in you but the tone of your responses put SOOOO much pressure on her. Not good.

Also, even if she's the one to react awkwardly, you should never react to her reaction. Always be calm, and non-needy. Don't overplan things (Like picturing her as your girlfriend). If she's being weird, or bitchy, call her out on it but never have the mentality that it's because something's wrong with YOU.

Anyways, not much to salvage from this other than a learning experience.

The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
M-buster
Profile Joined June 2003
Honduras8 Posts
January 24 2010 19:34 GMT
#116
fuck her
stalife
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1222 Posts
January 24 2010 20:21 GMT
#117
First mistake was taking an interest in this girl. She's Asian + hardcore christian.

Asian + hardcore christian = drama

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MisteR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands595 Posts
January 24 2010 23:28 GMT
#118
Haha, this thread has some gems in it Most is just bs though. There's only one thing in this story, and that is a lesson learned. Going medieval on his mistakes is not the way to advice someone. What happened here? Guy gets some chemistry going with a girl, decides he wants to act on it, finds out the girl already acts, but in the end she acted with a different intention. Sure he could've done this smoother, but so could the girl. The end result would've been the same though, I'm sure of that.
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