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MakkurtE
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States46 Posts
October 30 2009 18:27 GMT
#41
Hmm. How about this. Maybe it's you who isn't intellectual and worldy enough to fully understand it. As in you might be overly impressed by it because you haven't experienced proper satire. Sounds like bullshit right? Well yeah, it is. But IMO it's no more/less bullshitty then you suggesting likewise for anyone who doesn't like.

Honestly, i really just don't get how you think so highly of it, and don't see the levels of subtlety you do. I'm sure you'll roll your eyes and assume it's because i'm too thick, but honestly, it's just nothing i haven't seen before, done better, with better writing, characters, and humour. That said i haven't seen an episode of the past 3 seasons, and don't plan on doing so. So perhaps it's a very different show these days, but i doubt it
Opinions in the above post are less informed then they appear
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24761 Posts
October 30 2009 18:50 GMT
#42
On October 31 2009 03:27 MakkurtE wrote:
Hmm. How about this. Maybe it's you who isn't intellectual and worldy enough to fully understand it. As in you might be overly impressed by it because you haven't experienced proper satire. Sounds like bullshit right? Well yeah, it is. But IMO it's no more/less bullshitty then you suggesting likewise for anyone who doesn't like.

Honestly, i really just don't get how you think so highly of it, and don't see the levels of subtlety you do. I'm sure you'll roll your eyes and assume it's because i'm too thick, but honestly, it's just nothing i haven't seen before, done better, with better writing, characters, and humour. That said i haven't seen an episode of the past 3 seasons, and don't plan on doing so. So perhaps it's a very different show these days, but i doubt it

Honestly I don't know what the past few years have been like... I go mainly by the first 5 or so seasons. If you were really interested I could pick an episode I liked and point out all the reasons why it was so great, but the hilarity and cleverness will kinda get lost in the transliteration so I'm not sure if it will help.

I'm certainly open to differences of opinion where you can say something like "eh I don't really like it all that much" but most of the opinions in this thread have been that it is pretty much terrible, and I am definitely banking on me being right much more than them being right (regardless of bullshittyness)
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
October 30 2009 19:40 GMT
#43
I miss the old moralizing bart centered simpsons.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
October 30 2009 20:43 GMT
#44
On October 31 2009 00:36 Liquid`Drone wrote:
not_a_notion's show-ranking is the most accurate I have ever seen, as it happens to be the same one I would make.


Yep i agree. Futurama is easily the best. Followed by south park, then simpsons, then family guy.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24761 Posts
October 30 2009 20:49 GMT
#45
On October 31 2009 05:43 Probe. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 00:36 Liquid`Drone wrote:
not_a_notion's show-ranking is the most accurate I have ever seen, as it happens to be the same one I would make.


Futurama is easily the best.

Family guy is easily the best.

+ Show Spoiler +
Wow it's like a tl religious debate!!!
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gchan
Profile Joined October 2007
United States654 Posts
October 30 2009 21:14 GMT
#46
Comparing Futurama and Family Guy is apples and oranges. They have different types of humor and different types of character interactions. Family Guy does more of the slapstick, pop culture mimicry humor. Futurama has more character development and satire of modern technology/social norms.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
October 30 2009 21:21 GMT
#47
Most of the cartoons mentioned here have nothing in common besides the fact that they're all cartoons. It's totally different styles of humor. South Park tends to make fun of stupid shit in society, Family Guy is just random, etc...
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 30 2009 21:27 GMT
#48
Man, what the hell is up with the Cleveland Show? I had no idea that the show even existed until I watched an episode thinking it was a Family Guy.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-30 23:08:04
October 30 2009 22:25 GMT
#49
Micro/Ack, we won't win. TL http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=52255
But i'll try anyways:

People argue that Futurama has a plot, has a story arc, and that family guy doesn't blah blah. But when it boils down to it, these are comedy shows. Not dramas. It's not like family guy has incoherent babble and only random jokes or pop references (btw Futurama does the same shit to a lesser extent and fails miserably). There is generally a story in the episode, which is the basis for most of the jokes and such. The story may be basic and not relate to any other episode but who the fuck cares? Simpsons and many other shows use the same formula.
The fact that you are watching comedy shows for great story arcs and clever plot lines is as retarded as watching the daily show for your news. So don't come in arguing that Futurama is a better show because it clearly isn't, and you Futurama guys even admit it.

The other main point you Futurama fans have, is that FG has the same jokes recycled over and over and that they always do the flashback style random jokes. They have done this often but it's not the ONLY jokes in the show. There are hundreds? of jokes in the episode and you guys single out 1 style of gag and call the whole show bad? How bout if I do the same thing; "Futurama is lame, they always just do jokes about how dumb Fry is and cut him off or ignore him", or "Bender is a robot, they always make jokes about how much he's a stubborn robot", and you can pretty much do the same thing with every character in the show..That is neither clever, funny, or plot related btw. Oh, and guess what? They do this Fry is dumb joke like 10 times EVERY episode, at least.

Comedy shows are comedy shows. If the show is not as funny as the other, then it's obviously not better. If you claim otherwise then you are basically saying the show is not a comedy show, and then if you compare it with something that is not comedy, it also loses. So I guess your more "intelligent, acquired taste" show is actually some kind of retarded hybrid that was cancelled and has succumb to making straight to DVD movies that also blow. Have fun watching those, but don't tell me how much better futurama is than any other show, because it is not.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
October 30 2009 23:45 GMT
#50
charlie, get over yourself

all tv is repetitive, it's written to be that way. the intent of any show is to be consistent and believable, jokes derived from characterizations are always going to feel that way, you play to an audience's expectations, not confound them. if people prefer A style to B style, that's fine.
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24761 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 00:32:26
October 31 2009 00:29 GMT
#51
On October 31 2009 06:21 Hawk wrote:
Family Guy is just random

You think the most outstanding characteristic of family guy is that it is presented in a very random way?

edit: btw I agree that comparing these shows is difficult (hence your apples/oranges reference) but at the same time one show could definitely be better than another overall from a majority (or reasonably backed up) perspective.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Ichigo1234551
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States649 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 00:30:36
October 31 2009 00:30 GMT
#52
I WAITED FOR YOU FRY.......
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I WILL DESTROY YOU IN 2009 OK???????????????
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
October 31 2009 00:33 GMT
#53
Stewie is bicurious, not gay. Though I get how everyone says he's gay, most people like things to be black and white.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
October 31 2009 00:35 GMT
#54
how can anyone rank South Park above The Simpsons (both in their prime). lol
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24761 Posts
October 31 2009 00:39 GMT
#55
On October 31 2009 09:35 IntoTheWow wrote:
how can anyone rank South Park above The Simpsons (both in their prime). lol

I haven't seen that many episodes of either of them but at its peak South Park can be pretty damn awesome I have to admit... I've never found the Simpsons to be amazingly good but I could have just seen mostly bleh episodes... not that it's bad.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
October 31 2009 00:40 GMT
#56
On October 31 2009 09:33 Chuiu wrote:
Stewie is bicurious, not gay. Though I get how everyone says he's gay, most people like things to be black and white.

I did fall for that girl who just wanted cookies. But he also likes men. I'd say this is correct
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 31 2009 00:42 GMT
#57
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I feel right, Brian. I feel right.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
October 31 2009 01:06 GMT
#58
On October 31 2009 09:40 KurtistheTurtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 09:33 Chuiu wrote:
Stewie is bicurious, not gay. Though I get how everyone says he's gay, most people like things to be black and white.

I did fall for that girl who just wanted cookies. But he also likes men. I'd say this is correct
Also the girl he was teaching how to not speak in a horrible accent iirc.
And yea there are times where he notices how beautiful girls are (like his mother for example) and hits on them or whatever.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
October 31 2009 01:27 GMT
#59
On October 31 2009 07:25 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Micro/Ack, we won't win. TL http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=52255
But i'll try anyways:

People argue that Futurama has a plot, has a story arc, and that family guy doesn't blah blah. But when it boils down to it, these are comedy shows. Not dramas. It's not like family guy has incoherent babble and only random jokes or pop references (btw Futurama does the same shit to a lesser extent and fails miserably). There is generally a story in the episode, which is the basis for most of the jokes and such. The story may be basic and not relate to any other episode but who the fuck cares? Simpsons and many other shows use the same formula.
The fact that you are watching comedy shows for great story arcs and clever plot lines is as retarded as watching the daily show for your news.



Wow I cant believe I agree with CharlieMurphy but especially this paragraph is so so damn true.
And its even more ridiculous when you watch it from a south park point of view, I mean WHO THE FUCK watches south park because of the great plot and because they are so interested in the development of the story? yup, nobody.

On October 30 2009 23:35 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 23:34 Snet wrote:
Yea family guy is just terrible now.

I haven't watched it in a few seasons so I'm depressed to hear this.


Go watch the first episode of the new season, imo it's family guy at its best.



beep boop
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
October 31 2009 01:35 GMT
#60
why argue
its tlnet

why post

lol
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