EPTHonestly, i really just don't get how you think so highly of it, and don't see the levels of subtlety you do. I'm sure you'll roll your eyes and assume it's because i'm too thick, but honestly, it's just nothing i haven't seen before, done better, with better writing, characters, and humour. That said i haven't seen an episode of the past 3 seasons, and don't plan on doing so. So perhaps it's a very different show these days, but i doubt it
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MakkurtE
United States46 Posts
Honestly, i really just don't get how you think so highly of it, and don't see the levels of subtlety you do. I'm sure you'll roll your eyes and assume it's because i'm too thick, but honestly, it's just nothing i haven't seen before, done better, with better writing, characters, and humour. That said i haven't seen an episode of the past 3 seasons, and don't plan on doing so. So perhaps it's a very different show these days, but i doubt it | ||
micronesia
United States24554 Posts
On October 31 2009 03:27 MakkurtE wrote: Hmm. How about this. Maybe it's you who isn't intellectual and worldy enough to fully understand it. As in you might be overly impressed by it because you haven't experienced proper satire. Sounds like bullshit right? Well yeah, it is. But IMO it's no more/less bullshitty then you suggesting likewise for anyone who doesn't like. Honestly, i really just don't get how you think so highly of it, and don't see the levels of subtlety you do. I'm sure you'll roll your eyes and assume it's because i'm too thick, but honestly, it's just nothing i haven't seen before, done better, with better writing, characters, and humour. That said i haven't seen an episode of the past 3 seasons, and don't plan on doing so. So perhaps it's a very different show these days, but i doubt it Honestly I don't know what the past few years have been like... I go mainly by the first 5 or so seasons. If you were really interested I could pick an episode I liked and point out all the reasons why it was so great, but the hilarity and cleverness will kinda get lost in the transliteration so I'm not sure if it will help. I'm certainly open to differences of opinion where you can say something like "eh I don't really like it all that much" but most of the opinions in this thread have been that it is pretty much terrible, and I am definitely banking on me being right much more than them being right (regardless of bullshittyness) | ||
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United States877 Posts
On October 31 2009 00:36 Liquid`Drone wrote: not_a_notion's show-ranking is the most accurate I have ever seen, as it happens to be the same one I would make. Yep i agree. Futurama is easily the best. Followed by south park, then simpsons, then family guy. | ||
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micronesia
United States24554 Posts
Family guy is easily the best. + Show Spoiler + Wow it's like a tl religious debate!!! | ||
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gchan
United States654 Posts
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QuanticHawk
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koreasilver
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
But i'll try anyways: People argue that Futurama has a plot, has a story arc, and that family guy doesn't blah blah. But when it boils down to it, these are comedy shows. Not dramas. It's not like family guy has incoherent babble and only random jokes or pop references (btw Futurama does the same shit to a lesser extent and fails miserably). There is generally a story in the episode, which is the basis for most of the jokes and such. The story may be basic and not relate to any other episode but who the fuck cares? Simpsons and many other shows use the same formula. The fact that you are watching comedy shows for great story arcs and clever plot lines is as retarded as watching the daily show for your news. So don't come in arguing that Futurama is a better show because it clearly isn't, and you Futurama guys even admit it. The other main point you Futurama fans have, is that FG has the same jokes recycled over and over and that they always do the flashback style random jokes. They have done this often but it's not the ONLY jokes in the show. There are hundreds? of jokes in the episode and you guys single out 1 style of gag and call the whole show bad? How bout if I do the same thing; "Futurama is lame, they always just do jokes about how dumb Fry is and cut him off or ignore him", or "Bender is a robot, they always make jokes about how much he's a stubborn robot", and you can pretty much do the same thing with every character in the show..That is neither clever, funny, or plot related btw. Oh, and guess what? They do this Fry is dumb joke like 10 times EVERY episode, at least. Comedy shows are comedy shows. If the show is not as funny as the other, then it's obviously not better. If you claim otherwise then you are basically saying the show is not a comedy show, and then if you compare it with something that is not comedy, it also loses. So I guess your more "intelligent, acquired taste" show is actually some kind of retarded hybrid that was cancelled and has succumb to making straight to DVD movies that also blow. Have fun watching those, but don't tell me how much better futurama is than any other show, because it is not. | ||
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benjammin
United States2728 Posts
all tv is repetitive, it's written to be that way. the intent of any show is to be consistent and believable, jokes derived from characterizations are always going to feel that way, you play to an audience's expectations, not confound them. if people prefer A style to B style, that's fine. | ||
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micronesia
United States24554 Posts
On October 31 2009 06:21 Hawk wrote: Family Guy is just random You think the most outstanding characteristic of family guy is that it is presented in a very random way? edit: btw I agree that comparing these shows is difficult (hence your apples/oranges reference) but at the same time one show could definitely be better than another overall from a majority (or reasonably backed up) perspective. | ||
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Ichigo1234551
United States649 Posts
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IntoTheWow
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micronesia
United States24554 Posts
On October 31 2009 09:35 IntoTheWow wrote: how can anyone rank South Park above The Simpsons (both in their prime). lol I haven't seen that many episodes of either of them but at its peak South Park can be pretty damn awesome I have to admit... I've never found the Simpsons to be amazingly good but I could have just seen mostly bleh episodes... not that it's bad. | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
On October 31 2009 09:33 Chuiu wrote: Stewie is bicurious, not gay. Though I get how everyone says he's gay, most people like things to be black and white. I did fall for that girl who just wanted cookies. But he also likes men. I'd say this is correct | ||
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koreasilver
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![[image loading]](http://s2.buzzfeed.com/static/imagebuzz/web04/2009/8/23/1/family-guys-stewie-as-sailor-moon-soldier-3152-1251003674-44.jpg) I feel right, Brian. I feel right. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On October 31 2009 09:40 KurtistheTurtle wrote: Also the girl he was teaching how to not speak in a horrible accent iirc.I did fall for that girl who just wanted cookies. But he also likes men. I'd say this is correct And yea there are times where he notices how beautiful girls are (like his mother for example) and hits on them or whatever. | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On October 31 2009 07:25 CharlieMurphy wrote: Micro/Ack, we won't win. TL http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=52255 But i'll try anyways: People argue that Futurama has a plot, has a story arc, and that family guy doesn't blah blah. But when it boils down to it, these are comedy shows. Not dramas. It's not like family guy has incoherent babble and only random jokes or pop references (btw Futurama does the same shit to a lesser extent and fails miserably). There is generally a story in the episode, which is the basis for most of the jokes and such. The story may be basic and not relate to any other episode but who the fuck cares? Simpsons and many other shows use the same formula. The fact that you are watching comedy shows for great story arcs and clever plot lines is as retarded as watching the daily show for your news. Wow I cant believe I agree with CharlieMurphy but especially this paragraph is so so damn true. And its even more ridiculous when you watch it from a south park point of view, I mean WHO THE FUCK watches south park because of the great plot and because they are so interested in the development of the story? yup, nobody. On October 30 2009 23:35 micronesia wrote: I haven't watched it in a few seasons so I'm depressed to hear this. Go watch the first episode of the new season, imo it's family guy at its best. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
its tlnet why post lol | ||
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