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On May 02 2018 09:53 Aquanim wrote:
I got a question: Has Danglars or GreenHorizons ever displayed the faintest shred of remorse? I ask because I may have missed a post somewhere.
If someone should come up to you and say that a buncha people have been talking behind the scenes, and after much deliberation we don’t want you here anymore, do you just accept it and apologize for their hidden but accurate judgement? I didn’t even have a banned post or a warn leading up to this, so it’s very hard to go further than to cite their past moderation standards and unfair judgment separating me out from the left-right fight. They chose to act in the new thread based on uncited and uncommmunicated wrongs in the past thread.
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On May 02 2018 10:04 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 09:53 Aquanim wrote:
I got a question: Has Danglars or GreenHorizons ever displayed the faintest shred of remorse? I ask because I may have missed a post somewhere. If someone should come up to you and say that a buncha people have been talking behind the scenes, and after much deliberation we don’t want you here anymore, do you just accept it and apologize for their hidden but accurate judgement?
It seems to me like an improvement on making the claim to the moderators that "your judgement is so flawed that I don't even have anything to apologise for".
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United Kingdom13775 Posts
On May 02 2018 10:06 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 10:04 Danglars wrote:On May 02 2018 09:53 Aquanim wrote:
I got a question: Has Danglars or GreenHorizons ever displayed the faintest shred of remorse? I ask because I may have missed a post somewhere. If someone should come up to you and say that a buncha people have been talking behind the scenes, and after much deliberation we don’t want you here anymore, do you just accept it and apologize for their hidden but accurate judgement? It seems to me like an improvement on making the claim to the moderators that "your judgement is so flawed that I don't even have anything to apologise for".
What are you trying to get at? That they aren't perfect posters? No fucking shit they aren't. That's so obvious as to be not worth mentioning because everyone goes too far at some point.
Is there a larger point to be made, or is this just an attempt to try to throw shade at the users in question to try to invalidate their appeals? Because if there is, I sure as hell don't see one. They can be right while not being perfect posters.
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On May 02 2018 10:03 Aquanim wrote:
Okay, let me be clearer then. I assumed the point was obvious.
Even if we accept the proposition that GreenHorizons and Danglars did not act inappropriately enough to be banned, there is still a long way between "inappropriate enough to be long-term banned" and "acting like a reasonable poster", and people in that range should apologise for their actions and clean up their act.
Are y'all making the claim that neither of these posters are even in that range?
wtf is with this posting about me like I'm not part of the conversation sparking them?... Anyway...
Certainly, if you'd like to point them out, I'll give you my reasoning for why I wouldn't be remorseful or perhaps was.
On May 02 2018 10:04 Plansix wrote:
“I went to far that time” isn’t a phrase I expect from most of the folks with complaints about the moderation.
Why, why can you not stop yourself from making shitposts like this?
It's like you saw us talking about the +1 shitposts and were like "Here I'll give them an example and rub in their faces the mods don't get it"
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On May 02 2018 10:09 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 10:06 Aquanim wrote:On May 02 2018 10:04 Danglars wrote:On May 02 2018 09:53 Aquanim wrote:
I got a question: Has Danglars or GreenHorizons ever displayed the faintest shred of remorse? I ask because I may have missed a post somewhere. If someone should come up to you and say that a buncha people have been talking behind the scenes, and after much deliberation we don’t want you here anymore, do you just accept it and apologize for their hidden but accurate judgement? It seems to me like an improvement on making the claim to the moderators that "your judgement is so flawed that I don't even have anything to apologise for". What are you trying to get at? That they aren't perfect posters? No fucking shit they aren't. That's so obvious as to be not worth mentioning because everyone goes too far at some point. Is there a larger point to be made, or is this just an attempt to try to throw shade at the users in question to try to invalidate their appeals? Because if there is, I sure as hell don't see one. They can be right while not being perfect posters.
My main point is that neither of these posters can be expected to change, because they don't see anything wrong with what they are doing.
On May 02 2018 10:11 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 10:03 Aquanim wrote:
Okay, let me be clearer then. I assumed the point was obvious.
Even if we accept the proposition that GreenHorizons and Danglars did not act inappropriately enough to be banned, there is still a long way between "inappropriate enough to be long-term banned" and "acting like a reasonable poster", and people in that range should apologise for their actions and clean up their act.
Are y'all making the claim that neither of these posters are even in that range? wtf is with this posting about me like I'm not part of the conversation sparking them?... Anyway...
I was speaking about both you and Danglars. Used names to avoid confusion.
Certainly, if you'd like to point them out, I'll give you my reasoning for why I wouldn't be remorseful or perhaps was.
Not gonna second-guess the mods on that one, sorry.
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United Kingdom13775 Posts
On May 02 2018 10:16 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 10:09 LegalLord wrote:On May 02 2018 10:06 Aquanim wrote:On May 02 2018 10:04 Danglars wrote:On May 02 2018 09:53 Aquanim wrote:
I got a question: Has Danglars or GreenHorizons ever displayed the faintest shred of remorse? I ask because I may have missed a post somewhere. If someone should come up to you and say that a buncha people have been talking behind the scenes, and after much deliberation we don’t want you here anymore, do you just accept it and apologize for their hidden but accurate judgement? It seems to me like an improvement on making the claim to the moderators that "your judgement is so flawed that I don't even have anything to apologise for". What are you trying to get at? That they aren't perfect posters? No fucking shit they aren't. That's so obvious as to be not worth mentioning because everyone goes too far at some point. Is there a larger point to be made, or is this just an attempt to try to throw shade at the users in question to try to invalidate their appeals? Because if there is, I sure as hell don't see one. They can be right while not being perfect posters. My main point is that neither of these posters can be expected to change, because they don't see anything wrong with what they are doing.
It's closer to the truth than not. For both of them the worst I can say is that they could stand to walk away from stupid posters more readily than they did rather than continuing to engage.
On May 02 2018 10:19 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 10:18 LegalLord wrote:On May 02 2018 10:16 Aquanim wrote:On May 02 2018 10:09 LegalLord wrote:On May 02 2018 10:06 Aquanim wrote:On May 02 2018 10:04 Danglars wrote:On May 02 2018 09:53 Aquanim wrote:
I got a question: Has Danglars or GreenHorizons ever displayed the faintest shred of remorse? I ask because I may have missed a post somewhere. If someone should come up to you and say that a buncha people have been talking behind the scenes, and after much deliberation we don’t want you here anymore, do you just accept it and apologize for their hidden but accurate judgement? It seems to me like an improvement on making the claim to the moderators that "your judgement is so flawed that I don't even have anything to apologise for". What are you trying to get at? That they aren't perfect posters? No fucking shit they aren't. That's so obvious as to be not worth mentioning because everyone goes too far at some point. Is there a larger point to be made, or is this just an attempt to try to throw shade at the users in question to try to invalidate their appeals? Because if there is, I sure as hell don't see one. They can be right while not being perfect posters. My main point is that neither of these posters can be expected to change, because they don't see anything wrong with what they are doing. It's closer to the truth than not. For both of them the worst I can say is that they could stand to walk away from stupid posters more readily than they did rather than continuing to engage. I know what your opinion is LegalLord and I don't much care about it.
Then by all means, carry on with your loaded line of questioning and don't let me stop you.
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On May 02 2018 10:18 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 10:16 Aquanim wrote:On May 02 2018 10:09 LegalLord wrote:On May 02 2018 10:06 Aquanim wrote:On May 02 2018 10:04 Danglars wrote:On May 02 2018 09:53 Aquanim wrote:
I got a question: Has Danglars or GreenHorizons ever displayed the faintest shred of remorse? I ask because I may have missed a post somewhere. If someone should come up to you and say that a buncha people have been talking behind the scenes, and after much deliberation we don’t want you here anymore, do you just accept it and apologize for their hidden but accurate judgement? It seems to me like an improvement on making the claim to the moderators that "your judgement is so flawed that I don't even have anything to apologise for". What are you trying to get at? That they aren't perfect posters? No fucking shit they aren't. That's so obvious as to be not worth mentioning because everyone goes too far at some point. Is there a larger point to be made, or is this just an attempt to try to throw shade at the users in question to try to invalidate their appeals? Because if there is, I sure as hell don't see one. They can be right while not being perfect posters. My main point is that neither of these posters can be expected to change, because they don't see anything wrong with what they are doing. It's closer to the truth than not. For both of them the worst I can say is that they could stand to walk away from stupid posters more readily than they did rather than continuing to engage.
I know what your opinion is LegalLord and I don't much care about it.
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On May 02 2018 10:18 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 10:16 Aquanim wrote:On May 02 2018 10:09 LegalLord wrote:On May 02 2018 10:06 Aquanim wrote:On May 02 2018 10:04 Danglars wrote:On May 02 2018 09:53 Aquanim wrote:
I got a question: Has Danglars or GreenHorizons ever displayed the faintest shred of remorse? I ask because I may have missed a post somewhere. If someone should come up to you and say that a buncha people have been talking behind the scenes, and after much deliberation we don’t want you here anymore, do you just accept it and apologize for their hidden but accurate judgement? It seems to me like an improvement on making the claim to the moderators that "your judgement is so flawed that I don't even have anything to apologise for". What are you trying to get at? That they aren't perfect posters? No fucking shit they aren't. That's so obvious as to be not worth mentioning because everyone goes too far at some point. Is there a larger point to be made, or is this just an attempt to try to throw shade at the users in question to try to invalidate their appeals? Because if there is, I sure as hell don't see one. They can be right while not being perfect posters. My main point is that neither of these posters can be expected to change, because they don't see anything wrong with what they are doing. It's closer to the truth than not. For both of them the worst I can say is that they could stand to walk away from stupid posters more readily than they did rather than continuing to engage.
For which I should publicly cop to (if I haven't) though I have in PM's when confronted. I disagree on the premise itself (that I should walk away), but am clearly outnumbered and you have to pick your hills.
To that note I don't think I should respond to the argument of "I defer to the mods (who also haven't pointed to the posts deserving of moderation)" which by all appearances was little more than trolling from the start.
Although now less mods (if any) will read the important stuff on the page before this one thanks to some grade A derailing of the exact type of posts were talking about, but do go on folks...
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On May 02 2018 10:11 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 10:03 Aquanim wrote:
Okay, let me be clearer then. I assumed the point was obvious.
Even if we accept the proposition that GreenHorizons and Danglars did not act inappropriately enough to be banned, there is still a long way between "inappropriate enough to be long-term banned" and "acting like a reasonable poster", and people in that range should apologise for their actions and clean up their act.
Are y'all making the claim that neither of these posters are even in that range? wtf is with this posting about me like I'm not part of the conversation sparking them?... Anyway... Certainly, if you'd like to point them out, I'll give you my reasoning for why I wouldn't be remorseful or perhaps was. Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 10:04 Plansix wrote:
“I went to far that time” isn’t a phrase I expect from most of the folks with complaints about the moderation. Why, why can you not stop yourself from making shitposts like this? It's like you saw us talking about the +1 shitposts and were like "Here I'll give them an example and rub in their faces the mods don't get it"
I just call it like I see it. The folks who never back down, ever, also have the most issues with the moderation team.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36921 Posts
Alright, well, it's clear to me that the public statement I was drafting isn't going to do much good so I'm going to forget about it for now. I misunderstood which parts the community wanted clarification on so that was my bad.
With that being said, I am still one of the only moderators who actually give a damn and post responses so I will continue to do so. I know that my knowledge on US Politics is not the best but the worst thing for us to do is to go away and ignore everyone's concerns so I won't be doing that.
Also, I would like to try out a little experiment. If you want a question answered, post the question, and then wait for me or for one of the other mods to respond. Don't add additional details and don't add your opinions as to what is going on or as to what might have been going on. It's causing other people to respond and then the original question gets lost without ever getting answered, because the discussion that results ends up leading to more discussions. In a sea of discussions, you can't help but wonder, where the heck did the original question go?
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On May 02 2018 10:53 Seeker wrote:
Alright, well, it's clear to me that the public statement I was drafting isn't going to do much good so I'm going to forget about it for now. I misunderstood which parts the community wanted clarification on so that was my bad.
With that being said, I am still one of the only moderators who actually give a damn and post responses so I will continue to do so. I know that my knowledge on US Politics is not the best but the worst thing for us to do is to go away and ignore everyone's concerns so I won't be doing that.
Also, I would like to try out a little experiment. If you want a question answered, post the question, and then wait for me or for one of the other mods to respond. Don't add additional details and don't add your opinions as to what is going on or as to what might have been going on. It's causing other people to respond and then the original question gets lost without ever getting answered, because the discussion that results ends up leading to more discussions. In a sea of discussions, you can't help but wonder, where the heck did the original question go?
Can you read the last page and a half or so here and provide us some feedback? Primarily regarding the comments about +1 style posting, and unhelpful posts and how you see that reflected in the US politics megathread in general?
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On May 02 2018 10:53 Seeker wrote:
Alright, well, it's clear to me that the public statement I was drafting isn't going to do much good so I'm going to forget about it for now. I misunderstood which parts the community wanted clarification on so that was my bad.
With that being said, I am still one of the only moderators who actually give a damn and post responses so I will continue to do so. I know that my knowledge on US Politics is not the best but the worst thing for us to do is to go away and ignore everyone's concerns so I won't be doing that.
Also, I would like to try out a little experiment. If you want a question answered, post the question, and then wait for me or for one of the other mods to respond. Don't add additional details and don't add your opinions as to what is going on or as to what might have been going on. It's causing other people to respond and then the original question gets lost without ever getting answered, because the discussion that results ends up leading to more discussions. In a sea of discussions, you can't help but wonder, where the heck did the original question go?
I already figured you were one of the few that gave a damn. Now, will the moderation team continue to give one-month temp bans as experiments? Will they go straight to one-month+ (indefinite duration) for conservative posters that choose to respond in-kind to unactioned posts? I’m quite happy to let the liberal circle jerk continue if one side gets interaction like warns and 2-days, and the other gets clandestine discussion with ZERO poster interaction. You or the few others that “give a damn” can respond to my criticism in response to your post as well. I can forgive mishandling and miscommunication in the past if the anti-conservative bias was more incidental and from mod staff being overwhelmed.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36921 Posts
On May 02 2018 11:20 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 10:53 Seeker wrote:
Alright, well, it's clear to me that the public statement I was drafting isn't going to do much good so I'm going to forget about it for now. I misunderstood which parts the community wanted clarification on so that was my bad.
With that being said, I am still one of the only moderators who actually give a damn and post responses so I will continue to do so. I know that my knowledge on US Politics is not the best but the worst thing for us to do is to go away and ignore everyone's concerns so I won't be doing that.
Also, I would like to try out a little experiment. If you want a question answered, post the question, and then wait for me or for one of the other mods to respond. Don't add additional details and don't add your opinions as to what is going on or as to what might have been going on. It's causing other people to respond and then the original question gets lost without ever getting answered, because the discussion that results ends up leading to more discussions. In a sea of discussions, you can't help but wonder, where the heck did the original question go? Can you read the last page and a half or so here and provide us some feedback? Primarily regarding the comments about +1 style posting, and unhelpful posts and how you see that reflected in the US politics megathread in general?
Can you link me to them? Which ones am I looking at specifically?
On May 02 2018 11:46 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 10:53 Seeker wrote:
Alright, well, it's clear to me that the public statement I was drafting isn't going to do much good so I'm going to forget about it for now. I misunderstood which parts the community wanted clarification on so that was my bad.
With that being said, I am still one of the only moderators who actually give a damn and post responses so I will continue to do so. I know that my knowledge on US Politics is not the best but the worst thing for us to do is to go away and ignore everyone's concerns so I won't be doing that.
Also, I would like to try out a little experiment. If you want a question answered, post the question, and then wait for me or for one of the other mods to respond. Don't add additional details and don't add your opinions as to what is going on or as to what might have been going on. It's causing other people to respond and then the original question gets lost without ever getting answered, because the discussion that results ends up leading to more discussions. In a sea of discussions, you can't help but wonder, where the heck did the original question go? I already figured you were one of the few that gave a damn. Now, will the moderation team continue to give one-month temp bans as experiments? Will they go straight to one-month+ (indefinite duration) for conservative posters that choose to respond in-kind to unactioned posts? I’m quite happy to let the liberal circle jerk continue if one side gets interaction like warns and 2-days, and the other gets clandestine discussion with ZERO poster interaction. You or the few others that “give a damn” can respond to my criticism in response to your post as well. I can forgive mishandling and miscommunication in the past if the anti-conservative bias was more incidental and from mod staff being overwhelmed.
Danglars, I can personally attest to the fact that the mods have previously discussed your thread ban and the subject of when you will be unbanned. I can also honestly say that because of how you post within this thread, most mods aren't in favor of unbanning you.
The whole point of a thread ban is to observe how the user posts outside of the thread settings in which they were banned for. You however, chose to bitch and moan about moderation within this website feedback thread and show no sign of remorse or willingness to change how you post. Which means that if we unban you, you're just going to go right back into your usual posting habits and we'll just have to ban you again. I can't stick up for your unban because I have no leg to stand on.
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On May 02 2018 12:02 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 11:20 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 02 2018 10:53 Seeker wrote:
Alright, well, it's clear to me that the public statement I was drafting isn't going to do much good so I'm going to forget about it for now. I misunderstood which parts the community wanted clarification on so that was my bad.
With that being said, I am still one of the only moderators who actually give a damn and post responses so I will continue to do so. I know that my knowledge on US Politics is not the best but the worst thing for us to do is to go away and ignore everyone's concerns so I won't be doing that.
Also, I would like to try out a little experiment. If you want a question answered, post the question, and then wait for me or for one of the other mods to respond. Don't add additional details and don't add your opinions as to what is going on or as to what might have been going on. It's causing other people to respond and then the original question gets lost without ever getting answered, because the discussion that results ends up leading to more discussions. In a sea of discussions, you can't help but wonder, where the heck did the original question go? Can you read the last page and a half or so here and provide us some feedback? Primarily regarding the comments about +1 style posting, and unhelpful posts and how you see that reflected in the US politics megathread in general? Can you link me to them? Which ones am I looking at specifically?
I... meant ... you know what, I'm sorry, I pass. You can move on.
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cant ban people for stupidity unfortunately
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On May 02 2018 12:02 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 11:20 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 02 2018 10:53 Seeker wrote:
Alright, well, it's clear to me that the public statement I was drafting isn't going to do much good so I'm going to forget about it for now. I misunderstood which parts the community wanted clarification on so that was my bad.
With that being said, I am still one of the only moderators who actually give a damn and post responses so I will continue to do so. I know that my knowledge on US Politics is not the best but the worst thing for us to do is to go away and ignore everyone's concerns so I won't be doing that.
Also, I would like to try out a little experiment. If you want a question answered, post the question, and then wait for me or for one of the other mods to respond. Don't add additional details and don't add your opinions as to what is going on or as to what might have been going on. It's causing other people to respond and then the original question gets lost without ever getting answered, because the discussion that results ends up leading to more discussions. In a sea of discussions, you can't help but wonder, where the heck did the original question go? Can you read the last page and a half or so here and provide us some feedback? Primarily regarding the comments about +1 style posting, and unhelpful posts and how you see that reflected in the US politics megathread in general? Can you link me to them? Which ones am I looking at specifically? Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 11:46 Danglars wrote:On May 02 2018 10:53 Seeker wrote:
Alright, well, it's clear to me that the public statement I was drafting isn't going to do much good so I'm going to forget about it for now. I misunderstood which parts the community wanted clarification on so that was my bad.
With that being said, I am still one of the only moderators who actually give a damn and post responses so I will continue to do so. I know that my knowledge on US Politics is not the best but the worst thing for us to do is to go away and ignore everyone's concerns so I won't be doing that.
Also, I would like to try out a little experiment. If you want a question answered, post the question, and then wait for me or for one of the other mods to respond. Don't add additional details and don't add your opinions as to what is going on or as to what might have been going on. It's causing other people to respond and then the original question gets lost without ever getting answered, because the discussion that results ends up leading to more discussions. In a sea of discussions, you can't help but wonder, where the heck did the original question go? I already figured you were one of the few that gave a damn. Now, will the moderation team continue to give one-month temp bans as experiments? Will they go straight to one-month+ (indefinite duration) for conservative posters that choose to respond in-kind to unactioned posts? I’m quite happy to let the liberal circle jerk continue if one side gets interaction like warns and 2-days, and the other gets clandestine discussion with ZERO poster interaction. You or the few others that “give a damn” can respond to my criticism in response to your post as well. I can forgive mishandling and miscommunication in the past if the anti-conservative bias was more incidental and from mod staff being overwhelmed. Danglars, I can personally attest to the fact that the mods have previously discussed your thread ban and the subject of when you will be unbanned. I can also honestly say that because of how you post within this thread, most mods aren't in favor of unbanning you. The whole point of a thread ban is to observe how the user posts outside of the thread settings in which they were banned for. You however, chose to bitch and moan about moderation within this website feedback thread and show no sign of remorse or willingness to change how you post. Which means that if we unban you, you're just going to go right back into your usual posting habits and we'll just have to ban you again. I can't stick up for your unban because I have no leg to stand on.
I genuinely gave my feedback to how thread moderation has behaved with regards to the lead-up to my ban (a period of years?). I’m saddened that this is all summed up as bitching and moaning. You cited no post that was banworthy, you exposed zero discussions on interactions where I was unduly belligerent, and you heard from other right-of-center posters who explained what actually was the case. If you can’t dive into the details, but only reassert your conclusions, then I can’t help you. I acted in keeping with the last threads actual standards, which included many people accusing me of racism and white supremacist ideology and the rest. I see no reason for the mod team to hold conservative posters in the prior thread to a higher standard than liberal shitposters of the prior thread.
Your only PM to me, and only mod PM to me to date cited the number of reports of my posts. Depending on which mod you quote in this thread, it was an experiment, a long discussion, or a simple determination. With no communication from the mod team going forward, and no effort to show how past interactions were demonstrably worse than the unbanned posters, I have no choice but to demand a better explanation and what real standards will be applied moving forward.
I’m literally not privy to a single one of the cited examples that went into the moderation team’s decision. Your calls for remorse stems from the subjective determination that my posts made the prior thread worse. That’s like a king’s declaration, would you agree, Seeker? No evidence cited, just a pronouncement, then a second pronouncement that I’m expected to express remorse.
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whatever else people may say about my posting, i don't think im evasive or equivocating. danglars, you are a prime evader. it's your #1 problem.
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On May 02 2018 12:51 IgnE wrote:
whatever else people may say about my posting, i don't think im evasive or equivocating. danglars, you are a prime evader. it's your #1 problem.
I’ll accept that I’m more so than you are. The mods never brought that one up, and I’m more interested in what they thought were examples of banworthy behavior than what you think.
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I've got three questions for seeker or someone else.
1. What was the impetus for the series of events that led to the new thread and the actions taken?
In this what changed so that before everyone was fine enough with the thread until now where people weren't fine with it anymore. With respects to the understanding of a legitimate apathy twords the thread and a lack of motivation to understand the dynamics of the thread I don't understand how a group of moderators who don't want to moderate the thread decided to increase moderation of the thread.
2. Was the thread remade specifically for the removal of danglers and to give mods the tools to remove other posters if they were somehow able to agree on removing someone else from the thread? Moreso why the decision was to explicitly start the new thread in order to give the tools to ban Danglers instead of declaring a new age to the thread with updated standards.
3. I'm not sure really how to frame this specifically but was there a consideration to the threads dynamics, where Danglers and other conservative posters are forced somewhat inherently to be more combative and stretched to respond to more people that disagree with them on the basis of their beliefs unique to the thread, about what the message of banning Danglers and Danglers only would send? I don't want to attach unintended negative connotations but was Danglers removal not considered to be the wide reaching message that it sent to the thread and its posters?
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i'm someone else:
1) -a mod stepped up; it's as simple as that. if you look @TL history, you'll see that every now and again a mod will take the bull by the horns for no apparent reasons and under the guise of knighthood would start imposing rules(there was Kwark before him and i think Plexa before Kwark, but it goes way back); there will be justifications of course(making the world a better place and all that) but at the heart of that it's a mod's willingness/desire/need to do shit.
2) -a clean slate(new thread) breaks history reliance on modding/reporting(that was the/a hope at least);
-by banning the most disliked(most reported) users it creates at least an experiment that may be indicative of a future heading(based on its results/outcome)
3) -mostly it was a crowd pleaser rooted in some bits of truth;
ps: if people didn't get it, Aquanim is just asking you to apologize(you'll indirectly do it to him) so he'll stop reporting you; there's no higher logic/reason/justification there.
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