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I have to say that I'm a bit disappointed how Catz and Ret handled the situation. Especially Catz post on how he is blameless is really shady, since he has been warned about the girl at the MLG.I hope for him that he never gets into a situation where he's being cheated on.
Also it might be good advise for both Catz and Ret to get tested for STDs as soon as possible, and to stay clear of any sexual encounters until they have tested clean. No need to spread anything around.
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On June 12 2011 23:42 Whit wrote: I hope for him that he never gets into a situation where he's being cheated on.
Also it might be good advise for both Catz and Ret to get tested for STDs as soon as possible, and to stay clear of any sexual encounters until they have tested clean. No need to spread anything around.
I'm sure both Catz and Ret appreciate that you made a TL account to warn/inform them.
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On June 13 2011 00:55 Ballack wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 23:42 Whit wrote: I hope for him that he never gets into a situation where he's being cheated on.
Also it might be good advise for both Catz and Ret to get tested for STDs as soon as possible, and to stay clear of any sexual encounters until they have tested clean. No need to spread anything around. I'm sure both Catz and Ret appreciate that you made a TL account to warn/inform them. STD check might be called for
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Sigh the courts of the the TL trolls don't stop. Stop wasting time debating their personal issues here.
and ffs, anyone who says they would beat up the guy who is picking up his girl is a fool who cant handle the thought of being out macked by another male. Learn to judge character instead crying every time you pick up a crazy bitch.
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On June 11 2011 19:37 coL.CatZ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2011 03:42 Ganjamaster wrote:On June 10 2011 03:27 Ballack wrote:On June 10 2011 02:18 Ganjamaster wrote:On June 10 2011 02:01 TYJ.Aoy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 10 2011 00:22 Ganjamaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 16:41 StarBrift wrote: I don't really know why this makes me so angry. Usually I can detach from these kinds of deals but I guess when you idolize a player it's harder to detach. I'm literally fuming about some of the attitudes people have here and more commonly on reddit about this.
The attitude that "LOL this dude is a loser and a whimp why doesnt he act out" is actually so detestable that it's hard to put into words. If someone gave that attitude to me after my girlfriend had lied and fucked around this way I would probably give that person the beatdown of their life. In what world is it ok to be such an incredibly inhumane douchebag fratboy that you actually say such shit. Would you preffer it if he was "cool and badass" and bought a gun and gunned down our well loved gamers? Is that the kind of reaction that makes him a man instead of a wimp? God that attitude is despicable. Regardless of whether his actions are unacceptable or not. You do not put a guy on blast for not getting violent with the situation. That is simply retarded. I don´t know about gunning people down, but I think a good old bar brawl was more than warranted if CatZ or any of the guys involved were crossing some lines with his girlfriend. Speaking for myself here, if anyone, regardless of his size or number of his party, continually behaved in a way I deemed inappropriate towards my girlfriend in disregard of any warnings I may give him would be met with the maximum amount of unarmed physical violence available to me swiftly and decisively, without even a hint of consideration for my own physical integrity. Have done so in the past, would do it again. So many stronk alfa males lurking TL, I'm deeply impressed. I do not understand how this makes me "strong" or "alpha" in any way. I just do not see any other possible course of action in this situation if they do not cease and desist from their actions after being given many warnings. You're a savage living in another century. In the West, we don't use violence, we sue people! Now in this case it might not be optimal to do that, so the fellow told the whole story and got a bigillion replies/attention, which has hurt Ret's reputation more than what a "good ol' beating" would have. As for the girl, she is now gonna be known as a slut (in the sc community). Thats just the way it is. I'd say his approach was a lot better than what you suggested in your macho way. Where I am from, the law does not concern itself with trivial matters such as a barfight (unless there serious consequences eg. death, severe injury), or it is too slow and corrupt to be of any use anyway. When people refuse to respect you through simple reasoning and talking, you have to resort to violence to make them respect you, or else they will walk all over you (like what happened to the poor dude in this story). And with regards to hurting Ret´s reputation (just saying ret for the sake of example, could be any given person) I would be much more satisfied pummeling his face into the ground than I would ever be by "hurting his reputation" in an online forum, lol. Additionally, hurting his reputation occurs after the fact, violence will deter the fact from happening or make it worse, depending on the outcome of the fight. lol jesus christ, chill the fuck down. Shit's really simple: Ret nor I did anything wrong, I met a cute girl at MLG, without her boyfriend there, then we had some drinks and had fun, later I learned she had a boyfriend, and later I learned they broke up according to her, and confirmed in the post. I actually met her boyfriend after learning she had a boyfriend, he was quite a nice guy I thought. Out of respect to him, I avoided commenting on any of the threads, did she cheat on him? ya maybe... did she have her own reasons? maybe, but she's also a human being with the super-power of free will. Does this justify cheating? probably not. Should her bf break up with her if she cheated on him? I personally would. I understand you're buff and super strong and all that, but relax buddy, your fist isn't gonna come on the other side of the screen to teach Ret and I ethics or teach the girl's bf how you do it in argentina, see people with half a brain usually prefer to settle things by talking. Also, I was not given any warning unfortunately, so your law of brute strenght doesn't apply there either. You see when you have a girlfriend, what your brain should be thinking about is "I trust her enough that she won't cheat on me" your brain should not be thinking "IF I SEE MALE KISS HER, MAYBE ME PUNCH HIM SO SHE STAY WITH ME! ARGHH!" your fist doesn't get you respect, anywhere in the world, unless you make money off of punching people, that might get you respect from people who like watching the sport and admire your talents. because you see from the guy's perspective that you'd walk up to in a bar and punch cause you're mad cool, he probably just met a cute girl and was having fun, and if you punch him like you do where you come from, maybe he'll get a gun and go shoot you and then all that respect... gone... edit: this thread was actually supposed to be about my dq vs julyzerg, lol.
CatZ my man, if you had half a brain maybe you would comprehend what I am saying. What I said was that the ex boyfriend dude should just told her not to act in that way, and told you to back the fuck off his girlfriend. Then if you did not back off, THEN AND ONLY THEN should he have proceeded to fuck you up. So I condone violence if talking does not solve the problem.
Moreover, given that this did not happen (he did not say anything to you or the girl at that time) then, in my opinion, you are absolutely blameless and I would have done the exact same thing you did (and of course Ret is blameless through the same logic).
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Bad news for e-sports, give progamers a bad name by portraying them as desperate virgins. Gained a whole lot of respect towards Destiny after reading the wholes story, very mature IRL compared to his BM (for fun) in games.
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On June 14 2011 05:47 Ganjamaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2011 19:37 coL.CatZ wrote:On June 10 2011 03:42 Ganjamaster wrote:On June 10 2011 03:27 Ballack wrote:On June 10 2011 02:18 Ganjamaster wrote:On June 10 2011 02:01 TYJ.Aoy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 10 2011 00:22 Ganjamaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 16:41 StarBrift wrote: I don't really know why this makes me so angry. Usually I can detach from these kinds of deals but I guess when you idolize a player it's harder to detach. I'm literally fuming about some of the attitudes people have here and more commonly on reddit about this.
The attitude that "LOL this dude is a loser and a whimp why doesnt he act out" is actually so detestable that it's hard to put into words. If someone gave that attitude to me after my girlfriend had lied and fucked around this way I would probably give that person the beatdown of their life. In what world is it ok to be such an incredibly inhumane douchebag fratboy that you actually say such shit. Would you preffer it if he was "cool and badass" and bought a gun and gunned down our well loved gamers? Is that the kind of reaction that makes him a man instead of a wimp? God that attitude is despicable. Regardless of whether his actions are unacceptable or not. You do not put a guy on blast for not getting violent with the situation. That is simply retarded. I don´t know about gunning people down, but I think a good old bar brawl was more than warranted if CatZ or any of the guys involved were crossing some lines with his girlfriend. Speaking for myself here, if anyone, regardless of his size or number of his party, continually behaved in a way I deemed inappropriate towards my girlfriend in disregard of any warnings I may give him would be met with the maximum amount of unarmed physical violence available to me swiftly and decisively, without even a hint of consideration for my own physical integrity. Have done so in the past, would do it again. So many stronk alfa males lurking TL, I'm deeply impressed. I do not understand how this makes me "strong" or "alpha" in any way. I just do not see any other possible course of action in this situation if they do not cease and desist from their actions after being given many warnings. You're a savage living in another century. In the West, we don't use violence, we sue people! Now in this case it might not be optimal to do that, so the fellow told the whole story and got a bigillion replies/attention, which has hurt Ret's reputation more than what a "good ol' beating" would have. As for the girl, she is now gonna be known as a slut (in the sc community). Thats just the way it is. I'd say his approach was a lot better than what you suggested in your macho way. Where I am from, the law does not concern itself with trivial matters such as a barfight (unless there serious consequences eg. death, severe injury), or it is too slow and corrupt to be of any use anyway. When people refuse to respect you through simple reasoning and talking, you have to resort to violence to make them respect you, or else they will walk all over you (like what happened to the poor dude in this story). And with regards to hurting Ret´s reputation (just saying ret for the sake of example, could be any given person) I would be much more satisfied pummeling his face into the ground than I would ever be by "hurting his reputation" in an online forum, lol. Additionally, hurting his reputation occurs after the fact, violence will deter the fact from happening or make it worse, depending on the outcome of the fight. lol jesus christ, chill the fuck down. Shit's really simple: Ret nor I did anything wrong, I met a cute girl at MLG, without her boyfriend there, then we had some drinks and had fun, later I learned she had a boyfriend, and later I learned they broke up according to her, and confirmed in the post. I actually met her boyfriend after learning she had a boyfriend, he was quite a nice guy I thought. Out of respect to him, I avoided commenting on any of the threads, did she cheat on him? ya maybe... did she have her own reasons? maybe, but she's also a human being with the super-power of free will. Does this justify cheating? probably not. Should her bf break up with her if she cheated on him? I personally would. I understand you're buff and super strong and all that, but relax buddy, your fist isn't gonna come on the other side of the screen to teach Ret and I ethics or teach the girl's bf how you do it in argentina, see people with half a brain usually prefer to settle things by talking. Also, I was not given any warning unfortunately, so your law of brute strenght doesn't apply there either. You see when you have a girlfriend, what your brain should be thinking about is "I trust her enough that she won't cheat on me" your brain should not be thinking "IF I SEE MALE KISS HER, MAYBE ME PUNCH HIM SO SHE STAY WITH ME! ARGHH!" your fist doesn't get you respect, anywhere in the world, unless you make money off of punching people, that might get you respect from people who like watching the sport and admire your talents. because you see from the guy's perspective that you'd walk up to in a bar and punch cause you're mad cool, he probably just met a cute girl and was having fun, and if you punch him like you do where you come from, maybe he'll get a gun and go shoot you and then all that respect... gone... edit: this thread was actually supposed to be about my dq vs julyzerg, lol. CatZ my man, if you had half a brain maybe you would comprehend what I am saying. What I said was that the ex boyfriend dude should just told her not to act in that way, and told you to back the fuck off his girlfriend. Then if you did not back off, THEN AND ONLY THEN should he have proceeded to fuck you up. So I condone violence if talking does not solve the problem. Moreover, given that this did not happen (he did not say anything to you or the girl at that time) then, in my opinion, you are absolutely blameless and I would have done the exact same thing you did (and of course Ret is blameless through the same logic).
So if your girlfriend can't keep her panties on, you will beat up all the guys she's trying to jump? Very smart, why solve the source of the issue when you can try to <endlessly> deal with the outcomes. Well, not endlessly, if that's your attitude, you will eventually mess with the wrong person, who will put you in the hospital, or in the ground.
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On June 15 2011 17:58 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 05:47 Ganjamaster wrote:On June 11 2011 19:37 coL.CatZ wrote:On June 10 2011 03:42 Ganjamaster wrote:On June 10 2011 03:27 Ballack wrote:On June 10 2011 02:18 Ganjamaster wrote:On June 10 2011 02:01 TYJ.Aoy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 10 2011 00:22 Ganjamaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 16:41 StarBrift wrote: I don't really know why this makes me so angry. Usually I can detach from these kinds of deals but I guess when you idolize a player it's harder to detach. I'm literally fuming about some of the attitudes people have here and more commonly on reddit about this.
The attitude that "LOL this dude is a loser and a whimp why doesnt he act out" is actually so detestable that it's hard to put into words. If someone gave that attitude to me after my girlfriend had lied and fucked around this way I would probably give that person the beatdown of their life. In what world is it ok to be such an incredibly inhumane douchebag fratboy that you actually say such shit. Would you preffer it if he was "cool and badass" and bought a gun and gunned down our well loved gamers? Is that the kind of reaction that makes him a man instead of a wimp? God that attitude is despicable. Regardless of whether his actions are unacceptable or not. You do not put a guy on blast for not getting violent with the situation. That is simply retarded. I don´t know about gunning people down, but I think a good old bar brawl was more than warranted if CatZ or any of the guys involved were crossing some lines with his girlfriend. Speaking for myself here, if anyone, regardless of his size or number of his party, continually behaved in a way I deemed inappropriate towards my girlfriend in disregard of any warnings I may give him would be met with the maximum amount of unarmed physical violence available to me swiftly and decisively, without even a hint of consideration for my own physical integrity. Have done so in the past, would do it again. So many stronk alfa males lurking TL, I'm deeply impressed. I do not understand how this makes me "strong" or "alpha" in any way. I just do not see any other possible course of action in this situation if they do not cease and desist from their actions after being given many warnings. You're a savage living in another century. In the West, we don't use violence, we sue people! Now in this case it might not be optimal to do that, so the fellow told the whole story and got a bigillion replies/attention, which has hurt Ret's reputation more than what a "good ol' beating" would have. As for the girl, she is now gonna be known as a slut (in the sc community). Thats just the way it is. I'd say his approach was a lot better than what you suggested in your macho way. Where I am from, the law does not concern itself with trivial matters such as a barfight (unless there serious consequences eg. death, severe injury), or it is too slow and corrupt to be of any use anyway. When people refuse to respect you through simple reasoning and talking, you have to resort to violence to make them respect you, or else they will walk all over you (like what happened to the poor dude in this story). And with regards to hurting Ret´s reputation (just saying ret for the sake of example, could be any given person) I would be much more satisfied pummeling his face into the ground than I would ever be by "hurting his reputation" in an online forum, lol. Additionally, hurting his reputation occurs after the fact, violence will deter the fact from happening or make it worse, depending on the outcome of the fight. lol jesus christ, chill the fuck down. Shit's really simple: Ret nor I did anything wrong, I met a cute girl at MLG, without her boyfriend there, then we had some drinks and had fun, later I learned she had a boyfriend, and later I learned they broke up according to her, and confirmed in the post. I actually met her boyfriend after learning she had a boyfriend, he was quite a nice guy I thought. Out of respect to him, I avoided commenting on any of the threads, did she cheat on him? ya maybe... did she have her own reasons? maybe, but she's also a human being with the super-power of free will. Does this justify cheating? probably not. Should her bf break up with her if she cheated on him? I personally would. I understand you're buff and super strong and all that, but relax buddy, your fist isn't gonna come on the other side of the screen to teach Ret and I ethics or teach the girl's bf how you do it in argentina, see people with half a brain usually prefer to settle things by talking. Also, I was not given any warning unfortunately, so your law of brute strenght doesn't apply there either. You see when you have a girlfriend, what your brain should be thinking about is "I trust her enough that she won't cheat on me" your brain should not be thinking "IF I SEE MALE KISS HER, MAYBE ME PUNCH HIM SO SHE STAY WITH ME! ARGHH!" your fist doesn't get you respect, anywhere in the world, unless you make money off of punching people, that might get you respect from people who like watching the sport and admire your talents. because you see from the guy's perspective that you'd walk up to in a bar and punch cause you're mad cool, he probably just met a cute girl and was having fun, and if you punch him like you do where you come from, maybe he'll get a gun and go shoot you and then all that respect... gone... edit: this thread was actually supposed to be about my dq vs julyzerg, lol. CatZ my man, if you had half a brain maybe you would comprehend what I am saying. What I said was that the ex boyfriend dude should just told her not to act in that way, and told you to back the fuck off his girlfriend. Then if you did not back off, THEN AND ONLY THEN should he have proceeded to fuck you up. So I condone violence if talking does not solve the problem. Moreover, given that this did not happen (he did not say anything to you or the girl at that time) then, in my opinion, you are absolutely blameless and I would have done the exact same thing you did (and of course Ret is blameless through the same logic). So if your girlfriend can't keep her panties on, you will beat up all the guys she's trying to jump? Very smart, why solve the source of the issue when you can try to <endlessly> deal with the outcomes. Well, not endlessly, if that's your attitude, you will eventually mess with the wrong person, who will put you in the hospital, or in the ground.
I am not addressing how to solve the situation in the long term. Of course he should dump the girl, moreso, he should never have taken her for his girlfriend in the first place. But if this is the first instance of this behavior, and a random dude keeps going after your warning then you are a pushover if you allow other people to disrespect you in your face. OFC you should inmediately break up with her after, hell, I would consider getting into a fight (regardless of outcome) in this context to be a de facto breakup.
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Some facts. Only criminal here is teh girl. No offense, but Ret is kind of pathetic if he really paid $1600,.. I mean, he barely met her and investing 1,6k like Josh said. The girls boyfriend - nice that you shared story with us, but move on from that peace of crap, simple thing.
This is good thing by the way, because many people that think with right head will avoid her in future(if they read this topic or his blog lol).
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I'm glad this was finally revealed! Sounds to me like MLG panicked when they couldn't start the day on time so they booted Catz. Lets hope during the next MLG they are treating all players equally!
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Netorare? In my SC2 pro scene? :O
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Interesting read, really disappointed that there was no Catz v July match. That would have been one hell of a match. Could really care less if starcraft players want to use their fame to get a few fan girls, but I really do wish the players would sort out their priorities. I'm a little bit shocked if Ret really did buy that girl a $1,600 plane ticket...
I have lost a little bit of respect for both Catz and Ret, but nothing that can't be gained back.
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well, Really seems that there was a double standard going around at MLG where some players could be late and others couldn't ? Or maybe it has something to do with it being the second day, and people should have been more prepared? Honestly I am a huge Catz fan and its disappointing to see him robbed like this. But, anyway he'll do well at next MLG !
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Unless there is a sex tape who cares?
Catz missed a match and had fun with a groupie.
That was like every weekend of my life in college.
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Aaaand Rekrul does it again... Wat a boss! GG. Btw... Post of the year nomineee right here!!
Coolest thing is, Thread title is still valid no matter which topic hehe...
ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSDFGHJKL:!@#$
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